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Dynasty Rookie #5 (1 Viewer)

Who would you take with the 1.05 Rookie Pick?

  • Arrelious Benn

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  • Jahvid Best

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  • Sam Bradford

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  • Jimmy Clausen

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  • Anthony Dixon

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  • Toby Gerhart

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  • Mardy Gilyard

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  • Brandon LaFell

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  • Demaryius Thomas

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  • Damian Williams

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  • Other

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Moonlight_Graham said:
Best should have been #3 at worst, and certainly ahead of Matthews.
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He ran up huge numbers against bad defenses and did very little against decent defenses. 4 different teams held him to under 4/carry this year. He's also a small back. Not short, small. Frankly I think it's crazy to even consider him at #4.
 
PlasmaDogPlasma said:
Moonlight_Graham said:
Best should have been #3 at worst, and certainly ahead of Matthews.
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He ran up huge numbers against bad defenses and did very little against decent defenses. 4 different teams held him to under 4/carry this year. He's also a small back. Not short, small. Frankly I think it's crazy to even consider him at #4.
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Nevermind his size - he has issues between the tackles.
 
Moonlight_Graham said:
Best should have been #3 at worst, and certainly ahead of Matthews.
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:coffee: but he should be #4. I won't take him #4 but others probably will. I'd take Thomas mostly because I don't need an RB and as a general rule don't take rookie QBs high.
 
Based on pure talent and upside....I'm taking Benn. Do not underestimate the negative impact of the Juice factor on a player. Also, the Illini were god awful as a team this year.

It's good to see that I'll be able to get him much later in rookie drafts though.

 
Patoons said:
PlasmaDogPlasma said:
Moonlight_Graham said:
Best should have been #3 at worst, and certainly ahead of Matthews.
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He ran up huge numbers against bad defenses and did very little against decent defenses. 4 different teams held him to under 4/carry this year. He's also a small back. Not short, small. Frankly I think it's crazy to even consider him at #4.
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Nevermind his size - he has issues between the tackles.
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Best is actually a pretty good runner between the tackles. He's certainly better than CJ Spiller in that regard, who most had no problem with taking at 1.2.
 
awesomeness said:
Patoons said:
PlasmaDogPlasma said:
Moonlight_Graham said:
Best should have been #3 at worst, and certainly ahead of Matthews.
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He ran up huge numbers against bad defenses and did very little against decent defenses. 4 different teams held him to under 4/carry this year. He's also a small back. Not short, small. Frankly I think it's crazy to even consider him at #4.
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Nevermind his size - he has issues between the tackles.
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Best is actually a pretty good runner between the tackles. He's certainly better than CJ Spiller in that regard, who most had no problem with taking at 1.2.
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I watched Best 3 times this season and he looked hestitant and got bottled up between the tackles.
 
Patoons said:
awesomeness said:
Patoons said:
PlasmaDogPlasma said:
Moonlight_Graham said:
Best should have been #3 at worst, and certainly ahead of Matthews.
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He ran up huge numbers against bad defenses and did very little against decent defenses. 4 different teams held him to under 4/carry this year. He's also a small back. Not short, small. Frankly I think it's crazy to even consider him at #4.
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Nevermind his size - he has issues between the tackles.
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Best is actually a pretty good runner between the tackles. He's certainly better than CJ Spiller in that regard, who most had no problem with taking at 1.2.
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I watched Best 3 times this season and he looked hestitant and got bottled up between the tackles.
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Which games were those? I'd like to see if I can go watch it to see what you're seeing.
 
Hoss_Cartwright said:
Which games were those? I'd like to see if I can go watch it to see what you're seeing.
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I feel like we've had some back and forth on Best, previously.Like I've said before, he's a solid player and will be successful if used appropriately to the outside and in open space, but I wonder how successful he'll be in this league if he can't run between the tackles.The games were:Minnesota - ton of TDs, but all success was to the outsideOregon - just virtually shutdownUCLA - His 90 yarder was pretty damn impressive, but from what I recall it was pitch that he cut back. Other than that, he was stiffled.I hadn't seen much more than this, but up the gut I'm unimpressed. Should be a nice PPR option, but I don't believe he'll be an elite back.
 
Patoons said:
Hoss_Cartwright said:
Which games were those? I'd like to see if I can go watch it to see what you're seeing.
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I feel like we've had some back and forth on Best, previously.Like I've said before, he's a solid player and will be successful if used appropriately to the outside and in open space, but I wonder how successful he'll be in this league if he can't run between the tackles.

The games were:

Minnesota - ton of TDs, but all success was to the outside

Oregon - just virtually shutdown

UCLA - His 90 yarder was pretty damn impressive, but from what I recall it was pitch that he cut back. Other than that, he was stiffled.

I hadn't seen much more than this, but up the gut I'm unimpressed. Should be a nice PPR option, but I don't believe he'll be an elite back.
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Barry Sanders had a lot of negative plays before he broke big ones. You can't subtract the big plays when evaluating RBs. I'm sure a lot of people said some of the same things about Chris Johnson. Best might be another Reggie Bush, or he could be worse, or he could be better. We really don't know, and anyone of these self claimed experts on here who think otherwise is full of it.
 
Moonlight_Graham said:
Patoons said:
Hoss_Cartwright said:
Which games were those? I'd like to see if I can go watch it to see what you're seeing.
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I feel like we've had some back and forth on Best, previously.Like I've said before, he's a solid player and will be successful if used appropriately to the outside and in open space, but I wonder how successful he'll be in this league if he can't run between the tackles.

The games were:

Minnesota - ton of TDs, but all success was to the outside

Oregon - just virtually shutdown

UCLA - His 90 yarder was pretty damn impressive, but from what I recall it was pitch that he cut back. Other than that, he was stiffled.

I hadn't seen much more than this, but up the gut I'm unimpressed. Should be a nice PPR option, but I don't believe he'll be an elite back.
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Barry Sanders had a lot of negative plays before he broke big ones. You can't subtract the big plays when evaluating RBs. I'm sure a lot of people said some of the same things about Chris Johnson. Best might be another Reggie Bush, or he could be worse, or he could be better. We really don't know, and anyone of these self claimed experts on here who think otherwise is full of it.
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I'm not subtracting the big plays, nor do I suggest you should. I totally agree with you. Maybe my point wasn't clear, but the 90 yard play was to the outside. He's a very good outside runner and from what I've seen he isn't effective north/south. That was my point. I think it got lost in the quoting since it was a number of posts back.As far as I know, the point of this board is to post opinions/talk fantasy. That's exactly what's going on. I'm no self claimed expert, nor do I think even the "experts" know what Best will be.

 
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Patoons said:
I'm not subtracting the big plays, nor do I suggest you should. I totally agree with you. Maybe my point wasn't clear, but the 90 yard play was to the outside. He's a very good outside runner and from what I've seen he isn't effective north/south. That was my point. I think it got lost in the quoting since it was a number of posts back.

As far as I know, the point of this board is to post opinions/talk fantasy. That's exactly what's going on. I'm no self claimed expert, nor do I think even the "experts" know what Best will be.
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that show Best running very well between the tackles.
 
Moonlight_Graham said:
Patoons said:
I'm not subtracting the big plays, nor do I suggest you should. I totally agree with you. Maybe my point wasn't clear, but the 90 yard play was to the outside. He's a very good outside runner and from what I've seen he isn't effective north/south. That was my point. I think it got lost in the quoting since it was a number of posts back.

As far as I know, the point of this board is to post opinions/talk fantasy. That's exactly what's going on. I'm no self claimed expert, nor do I think even the "experts" know what Best will be.
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Thanks - I'll take a look. I'm curious what defense that's against given that in the three games I saw he clearly struggled.
 
2 of those showed great inside running, some were just HUGE holes. Still not convinced with a few great inside runs, but thanks for the link. These are all clips of "highlights". To each his own, but I'll be passing on Best.

 
Patoons said:
2 of those showed great inside running, some were just HUGE holes. Still not convinced with a few great inside runs, but thanks for the link. These are all clips of "highlights". To each his own, but I'll be passing on Best.
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The game I saw was the Maryland he struggled abit in that game but I don't believe he got that many touches. Some people are dead set on drafting certain players no matter what. You can point out games that a player struggle in, point out his weakness (with evidence not opinions), show his injury history and it'll be ignored. Generally, when people make up the mind they are not going to change it. I'm on record saying that Spiller is clearly the #1 and backup why I believe it and yet some say they won't touch him. It's funny but that's how things are.Tex
 
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