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What are the chances Steve Slaton is traded? (1 Viewer)

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Steve Slaton would likely enter 2011 as the 3rd string RB for the Texans (clearly behind Foster and probably even Ben Tate). My understanding is that next year is a contract year for him. Right now the Texans need a lot of help on defense, and it seems logical to convert any value out of Slaton while they can.

I know the CBA issue may interfere, but I picked up Slaton in a keeper league. Any chance he starts at RB in 2011 for some team?

 
Velveeta22 said:
Steve Slaton would likely enter 2011 as the 3rd string RB for the Texans (clearly behind Foster and probably even Ben Tate). My understanding is that next year is a contract year for him. Right now the Texans need a lot of help on defense, and it seems logical to convert any value out of Slaton while they can.

I know the CBA issue may interfere, but I picked up Slaton in a keeper league. Any chance he starts at RB in 2011 for some team?
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There is no value. At best, they may get a 7th round pick or something. Very unlikely he gets traded imo.
 
A real possibility. Comes down to what would a team be willing to "pay" in regards to his worth to the Texans. And then that "cost" compared to drafting a rookie RB who has a long-cheap contract.

 
Slaton looked really slow during the season. I doubt he would be more than what he was for the Texans in 2010; a below aerage return man and average 3rd down back(who stuck behind a back who was better than him in the passing game). The Texans would honestly be lucky to ge anything of value (conditional 6th or 7th round pick). In short, Slaton is a dynasty/keeper league lottery ticket whose best bet for relivance is waiting for an injury or two to get regular touches no matter where he lands.

 
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Time Kibitzer said:
Velveeta22 said:
Steve Slaton would likely enter 2011 as the 3rd string RB for the Texans (clearly behind Foster and probably even Ben Tate). My understanding is that next year is a contract year for him. Right now the Texans need a lot of help on defense, and it seems logical to convert any value out of Slaton while they can.

I know the CBA issue may interfere, but I picked up Slaton in a keeper league. Any chance he starts at RB in 2011 for some team?
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There is no value. At best, they may get a 7th round pick or something. Very unlikely he gets traded imo.
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http://www.nfl.com/players/steveslaton/profile?id=SLA557176We all know what Slaton did in 2008 as a rookie. There has to be at least 3rd round to 5th round trade value for him (if he is not injured).

 
Velveeta22 said:
Time Kibitzer said:
Velveeta22 said:
Steve Slaton would likely enter 2011 as the 3rd string RB for the Texans (clearly behind Foster and probably even Ben Tate). My understanding is that next year is a contract year for him. Right now the Texans need a lot of help on defense, and it seems logical to convert any value out of Slaton while they can.

I know the CBA issue may interfere, but I picked up Slaton in a keeper league. Any chance he starts at RB in 2011 for some team?
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There is no value. At best, they may get a 7th round pick or something. Very unlikely he gets traded imo.
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http://www.nfl.com/players/steveslaton/profile?id=SLA557176We all know what Slaton did in 2008 as a rookie. There has to be at least 3rd round to 5th round trade value for him (if he is not injured).
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Texans won't get that for him.Very unlikely to get anything considering his last two seasons.

 
2008 - Fantastic year, 4.8 ypc

2009 - Seemed injured and slow, 3.3 ypc (went on IR with neck injury)

2010 - No one was knocking Arian Foster out of his groove. Early season turf toe and Slaton did have 4.9 ypc on his measly 19 carries.

Moving Slaton was originally brought up by another poster in the "Roster stashes for 2011" thread. It made sense to me. It seems like one of those situations where a guy that does not currently "fit in" will get moved for another under-achiever in the league to give them both new scenery.

There are a lot of comments on Slaton looking slow. He ran a 4.4 at the combine, so something must be up. In late August, there were reports of turf toe. I can see Slaton being moved.

 
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We all know what Slaton did in 2008 as a rookie. There has to be at least 3rd round to 5th round trade value for him (if he is not injured).
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Can't see anything close to that. RB value in NFL terms is much less than in fantasy terms, and even the latter is pretty minimal at this point.
 
Velveeta22 said:
2008 - Fantastic year, 4.8 ypc2009 - Seemed injured and slow, 3.3 ypc (went on IR with neck injury)2010 - No one was knocking Arian Foster out of his groove. Early season turf toe and Slaton did have 4.9 ypc on his measly 19 carries.Moving Slaton was originally brought up by another poster in the "Roster stashes for 2011" thread. It made sense to me. It seems like one of those situations where a guy that does not currently "fit in" will get moved for another under-achiever in the league to give them both new scenery. There are a lot of comments on Slaton looking slow. He ran a 4.4 at the combine, so something must be up. In late August, there were reports of turf toe. I can see Slaton being moved.
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You obviously weren't actually seeking a real answer, but justification for using a keeper spot on Slaton. As a person who watches every freaking snap of the team, Slaton is not running 4.4 in 2010. If you watched the Texans, you would not even question this. He is an average at best NFL RB3 at the moment. Does that mean he absolutely have zero chance of being relavant as a FF player the future? Of course not, but the chance is much closer to zero than you want to hear. In fact, because I am a Texans homer, I hope that I am wrong on either the trade or production front, but as the objective dude who has watched NFL football and played FF, I am seeing a Mewelde Moore wannabe.
 
coolnerd said:
Velveeta22 said:
2008 - Fantastic year, 4.8 ypc2009 - Seemed injured and slow, 3.3 ypc (went on IR with neck injury)2010 - No one was knocking Arian Foster out of his groove. Early season turf toe and Slaton did have 4.9 ypc on his measly 19 carries.Moving Slaton was originally brought up by another poster in the "Roster stashes for 2011" thread. It made sense to me. It seems like one of those situations where a guy that does not currently "fit in" will get moved for another under-achiever in the league to give them both new scenery. There are a lot of comments on Slaton looking slow. He ran a 4.4 at the combine, so something must be up. In late August, there were reports of turf toe. I can see Slaton being moved.
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You obviously weren't actually seeking a real answer, but justification for using a keeper spot on Slaton. As a person who watches every freaking snap of the team, Slaton is not running 4.4 in 2010. If you watched the Texans, you would not even question this. He is an average at best NFL RB3 at the moment. Does that mean he absolutely have zero chance of being relavant as a FF player the future? Of course not, but the chance is much closer to zero than you want to hear. In fact, because I am a Texans homer, I hope that I am wrong on either the trade or production front, but as the objective dude who has watched NFL football and played FF, I am seeing a Mewelde Moore wannabe.
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I am hearing a Texans homer and fantasy owner that drafted him and was burned. :lmao: If the guy has the ability to run 4.44, when why does he look slow?Jahvid Best had turf toe in 2010, but I'm sure you think he is fantastic. Look at his ypc. You say he "looked slow" and Slaton had turf toe with only 19 carries on the year. Not much to go by.The question in the thread is "do you think he will be traded". A few posters just say "no" without any logic to back it up. It seems logical to me that if the Texans are down on him they will trade him to someone that will give him a shot. If you think differently, post a logical reason besides "I watched every freakin snap"....and Mewelde Moore could be a starter elsewhere also. he always produces when given the chance. In both cases, we are talking about opportunity with a change in scenery.
 
And by the way, I am really asking to hear your opinion. I just want to hear WHY. Is it impossible for him to fix his fumbling issue? Did his neck injury somehow affect his speed? Why does he have zero value?

 
chances he gets traded are slim. He is only due to make 555,000 in his last year of rookie contract cheap insurence in case foster or tate go down. I dont see any value in 2011 unless injury to foster or tate.

7/21/2008: Signed a four-year, $2.370 million contract. The deal included a $664,500 signing bonus. 2010: $470,000, 2011: $555,000, 2012: Free Agent

 
"I watched every fricken snap" is probably one of the best reasons going. How many watch every snap including preseason and can give you an honest assessment?

I'd venture to guess he has near zero value because the free agent market is about to get flooded with plenty of talented backs like DeAngelo Williams and Mike Bush, some medium talents like Willis McGahee and Cedric Benson and Jason Snellings, not to mention the new draft class and street free agents that will make some impact ranging from Arian Foster to Selvin Young to Keiland Williams.

Oh and Mewelde Moore has never proven to be anything more than a spot starter, that doesn't make him a starter.

 
Steed said:
Oh and Mewelde Moore has never proven to be anything more than a spot starter, that doesn't make him a starter.
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The Jets knew Danny Woodhead was talented, but they let him go anyway. Look what he did for the Patriots. Fantastic stuff. Mewelde Moore has produced every time he has been given the chance. It is the opportunity that is not there.Talent + Motivation + Opportunity = Fantasy Football Points
 
Kowskull said:
chances he gets traded are slim. He is only due to make 555,000 in his last year of rookie contract cheap insurence in case foster or tate go down. I dont see any value in 2011 unless injury to foster or tate. 7/21/2008: Signed a four-year, $2.370 million contract. The deal included a $664,500 signing bonus. 2010: $470,000, 2011: $555,000, 2012: Free Agent
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I am not even sure he would be startable if Foster or Tate went down in 2011. I think that Staton will only have value if another teams trades for him. I guess this all comes down to whether or not the Texans will shop him.I personally think that Slaton is in Kubiak's permanent dog house. Kubiak is going to get fired if he does not make the playoffs in 2011. They need any help they can get on D.
 
Velveeta22 said:
Kowskull said:
chances he gets traded are slim. He is only due to make 555,000 in his last year of rookie contract cheap insurence in case foster or tate go down. I dont see any value in 2011 unless injury to foster or tate.

7/21/2008: Signed a four-year, $2.370 million contract. The deal included a $664,500 signing bonus. 2010: $470,000, 2011: $555,000, 2012: Free Agent
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I am not even sure he would be startable if Foster or Tate went down in 2011. I think that Staton will only have value if another teams trades for him. I guess this all comes down to whether or not the Texans will shop him.I personally think that Slaton is in Kubiak's permanent dog house. Kubiak is going to get fired if he does not make the playoffs in 2011. They need any help they can get on D.
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They will wisely not waste their time.
 
tough to trade guys that produced the year before at the RB position, let alone somebody who hasn't done anything for 2 years. Who was the last RB to be traded and how much did they get? Harrison for Mike Bell doesn't really count since it was basically to get each a different fit.

 
loose circuits said:
tough to trade guys that produced the year before at the RB position, let alone somebody who hasn't done anything for 2 years. Who was the last RB to be traded and how much did they get? Harrison for Mike Bell doesn't really count since it was basically to get each a different fit.
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Agreed. And it will probably taste a bit like the Cadillac Williams disappointment in the end. Honestly, I do not even like Slaton that much. My mind was just churning some scenarios tonight.My gut tells me that there is an elephant in the room wherever Steve Slaton is in the Texan's facility. He wants to be the starting RB. All the players know that Slaton still expects to be #1. After Arian Foster's performance, all the players also know that Slaton will never be the #1 again if Foster and Tate are healthy. Slaton does not like the disrespect. He is not happy. Everyone knows it. Awkward.This is the prime situation to trade a player. Winning teams have a cohesive locker room....or maybe I am just wrong and Slaton is a p*ssy.
 
Velveeta22 said:
loose circuits said:
tough to trade guys that produced the year before at the RB position, let alone somebody who hasn't done anything for 2 years. Who was the last RB to be traded and how much did they get? Harrison for Mike Bell doesn't really count since it was basically to get each a different fit.
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Agreed. And it will probably taste a bit like the Cadillac Williams disappointment in the end. Honestly, I do not even like Slaton that much. My mind was just churning some scenarios tonight.My gut tells me that there is an elephant in the room wherever Steve Slaton is in the Texan's facility. He wants to be the starting RB. All the players know that Slaton still expects to be #1. After Arian Foster's performance, all the players also know that Slaton will never be the #1 again if Foster and Tate are healthy. Slaton does not like the disrespect. He is not happy. Everyone knows it. Awkward.This is the prime situation to trade a player. Winning teams have a cohesive locker room....or maybe I am just wrong and Slaton is a p*ssy.
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I think you are looking for reasons why Slaton could have value and he doesn't in either real life NFL or fantasy football. He should just be happy he has a job making decent money at this point
 
loose circuits said:
Velveeta22 said:
loose circuits said:
tough to trade guys that produced the year before at the RB position, let alone somebody who hasn't done anything for 2 years. Who was the last RB to be traded and how much did they get? Harrison for Mike Bell doesn't really count since it was basically to get each a different fit.
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Agreed. And it will probably taste a bit like the Cadillac Williams disappointment in the end. Honestly, I do not even like Slaton that much. My mind was just churning some scenarios tonight.My gut tells me that there is an elephant in the room wherever Steve Slaton is in the Texan's facility. He wants to be the starting RB. All the players know that Slaton still expects to be #1. After Arian Foster's performance, all the players also know that Slaton will never be the #1 again if Foster and Tate are healthy. Slaton does not like the disrespect. He is not happy. Everyone knows it. Awkward.This is the prime situation to trade a player. Winning teams have a cohesive locker room....or maybe I am just wrong and Slaton is a p*ssy.
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I think you are looking for reasons why Slaton could have value and he doesn't in either real life NFL or fantasy football. He should just be happy he has a job making decent money at this point
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This is why I am so confused. That type of a statement is pretty disrespectful of a guy who had 1600+ all purpose yards as a rookie. He looked good enough to be drafted pretty high in 2009. The story then goes, fumblerooskies, benched, neck injury, turf toe, Arian Foster.It seems like you guys have subscribed to some sort of "the descent has been too steep" sort of philosophy.
 
Velveeta22 said:
Steed said:
Oh and Mewelde Moore has never proven to be anything more than a spot starter, that doesn't make him a starter.
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The Jets knew Danny Woodhead was talented, but they let him go anyway. Look what he did for the Patriots. Fantastic stuff. Mewelde Moore has produced every time he has been given the chance. It is the opportunity that is not there.Talent + Motivation + Opportunity = Fantasy Football Points
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notice the jets didn't get a third for woodhead.
 
12punch said:
Velveeta22 said:
Steed said:
Oh and Mewelde Moore has never proven to be anything more than a spot starter, that doesn't make him a starter.
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The Jets knew Danny Woodhead was talented, but they let him go anyway. Look what he did for the Patriots. Fantastic stuff. Mewelde Moore has produced every time he has been given the chance. It is the opportunity that is not there.Talent + Motivation + Opportunity = Fantasy Football Points
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notice the jets didn't get a third for woodhead.
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:thumbup: Are you saying the Jets should have released Woodhead? Not getting a third was a poor mistake by the Jets.
 
Velveeta22 said:
12punch said:
Velveeta22 said:
Steed said:
Oh and Mewelde Moore has never proven to be anything more than a spot starter, that doesn't make him a starter.
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The Jets knew Danny Woodhead was talented, but they let him go anyway. Look what he did for the Patriots. Fantastic stuff. Mewelde Moore has produced every time he has been given the chance. It is the opportunity that is not there.Talent + Motivation + Opportunity = Fantasy Football Points
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notice the jets didn't get a third for woodhead.
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:) Are you saying the Jets should have released Woodhead? Not getting a third was a poor mistake by the Jets.
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The Jets wouldn't have got a 3rd for Woodhead. Probably not even a 7th.The NFL doesn't really work the way you think it should.It's not like being in a fantasy football league.
 
Velveeta22 said:
loose circuits said:
Velveeta22 said:
loose circuits said:
tough to trade guys that produced the year before at the RB position, let alone somebody who hasn't done anything for 2 years. Who was the last RB to be traded and how much did they get? Harrison for Mike Bell doesn't really count since it was basically to get each a different fit.
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Agreed. And it will probably taste a bit like the Cadillac Williams disappointment in the end. Honestly, I do not even like Slaton that much. My mind was just churning some scenarios tonight.My gut tells me that there is an elephant in the room wherever Steve Slaton is in the Texan's facility. He wants to be the starting RB. All the players know that Slaton still expects to be #1. After Arian Foster's performance, all the players also know that Slaton will never be the #1 again if Foster and Tate are healthy. Slaton does not like the disrespect. He is not happy. Everyone knows it. Awkward.This is the prime situation to trade a player. Winning teams have a cohesive locker room....or maybe I am just wrong and Slaton is a p*ssy.
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I think you are looking for reasons why Slaton could have value and he doesn't in either real life NFL or fantasy football. He should just be happy he has a job making decent money at this point
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This is why I am so confused. That type of a statement is pretty disrespectful of a guy who had 1600+ all purpose yards as a rookie. He looked good enough to be drafted pretty high in 2009. The story then goes, fumblerooskies, benched, neck injury, turf toe, Arian Foster.It seems like you guys have subscribed to some sort of "the descent has been too steep" sort of philosophy.
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that's what happens when you struggle for 2 seasons. This draft is loaded with 3rd down type of backs (who will be signed for cheaper/longer) and free agency is loaded with decent veterans. It's a supply & demand thing
 
Sweet Love said:
NorrisB said:
He's basically Dominique WILLIAMS
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Fixed...lol...and BTW, good comparison. Flash, meet Pan.
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Slaton shredded his knee? Not really a good comparison at all to me other than they played for the same franchise. The Texans got nearly 3 good seasons out of Dom as opposed to Slaton who was a one year wonder. The hope was for Dom to continue his success (a small part of the reason they passed on Reggie Bush) but unfortunately all the cartilidge in his knee gave out. I'd say a better comparison to Slaton might be Anthony Thomas or someone mentioned Caddy as I expect Slaton to stick around the league for a few more years.

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Slaton may get a chance to catch on somewhere else. He won't get traded, best to hope for is he might get cut this year (guy lost the 2nd string job to Ward and now Tate is coming back) and get picked up somewhere else where he gets a crack at some carries.

But he has little to no value right now. If I played in a dynasty league with a huge bench, I would pick him up as a possible lottery ticket, but that's about all you can hope for at this point.

 
Slaton has three things going against him in terms of his potential trade value:

1) He has done very little on the field the last two years.

2) He has had fumbling issues

3) For whatever reason, the Texans had him as number 3 on their depth chart. They thought so little of Slaton that when the no experience rookie

ahead of Slaton on the depth chart got injured the Texans immediately went out and got a veteran #2 so that Slaton wouldn't have to back up

Foster.

So a team that needs a running back has to say "how much am I willing to give up to get a done-nothing-in-two-years, has-fumbling-issues, been-buried-on-his-current-teams-depth-chart Running Back?"

The answer is nothing or very little.

Slaton was so bad on Kickoff returns this year, that I would be surprised if the Texans keep him. Since I don't think anybody will give the Texans anything for him, he will most likely be cut.

Your best bet is to let him go, and then if he does end up on another team evaluate his potential at that point. I don't think other owners will

be chomping at the bit to pick him up.

 
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He won't be moved because he is going to cost so little to retain. Wouldn't Houston get a compensatory pick anyway letting him go? Are other teams going to beat that anyway if so? He is a good cheap backup.

 
Buckna said:
Sweet Love said:
NorrisB said:
He's basically Dominique WILLIAMS
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Fixed...lol...and BTW, good comparison. Flash, meet Pan.
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Slaton shredded his knee? Not really a good comparison at all to me other than they played for the same franchise. The Texans got nearly 3 good seasons out of Dom as opposed to Slaton who was a one year wonder. The hope was for Dom to continue his success (a small part of the reason they passed on Reggie Bush) but unfortunately all the cartilidge in his knee gave out. I'd say a better comparison to Slaton might be Anthony Thomas or someone mentioned Caddy as I expect Slaton to stick around the league for a few more years.

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Slaton may get a chance to catch on somewhere else. He won't get traded, best to hope for is he might get cut this year (guy lost the 2nd string job to Ward and now Tate is coming back) and get picked up somewhere else where he gets a crack at some carries.

But he has little to no value right now. If I played in a dynasty league with a huge bench, I would pick him up as a possible lottery ticket, but that's about all you can hope for at this point.
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