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NFL GameDay - Is there a good time to fire a coach?

By Darren Urban, Tribune

October 29, 2006

It seems too early to be talking about an NFL team firing their coach.

Looking around the NFL, there are plenty of teams floundering, but few coaches that are seriously on the hot seat.

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There is much talk about Romeo Crennel already being in trouble in Cleveland, but this is only his second season. Jacksonville’s Jack Del Rio could have issues if his team continues to spin downward.

Joe Gibbs seems more likely to walk away from the Redskins rather than get fired by owner Daniel Snyder, who idolized Gibbs. Tennessee’s Jeff Fisher may or may not stay with the Titans, but he would have multiple jobs to choose from if he hit the open market.

Then, of course, there is Arizona, where Dennis Green and his 12-27 record is clearly fighting for his future with the team. That’s assuming he wants a future with the team.

Make no mistake, Green wants to succeed with the Cardinals, but he won’t be crushed if he doesn’t. He has a beautiful home in San Diego and he will have collected around $10 million from the Bidwills by next year even if he is shown the door.

There would be a couple of benefits from cutting Green loose before the end of the season. The Cards could openly start searching for a new coach, and perhaps new general manager if the Bidwills decide Rod Graves — who is working without a contract — must be let go as well. It would also show the team won’t stand for the lack of progress shown on the field.

But I also recall some comments made by Steelers owner Dan Rooney at the most recent Super Bowl, when he was talking to a bunch of writers about why he chose to stick with Bill Cowher a couple of seasons ago when it seemed to everyone that it was time to finally switch coaches in Pittsburgh.

Rooney believed that every time a team brings in a new coach, it essentially becomes an expansion team. He didn’t want to start from scratch.

There are quality components with the Cardinals, high quality younger players a new coach could work with. But make no mistake — if Green goes, the Cardinals will be starting over. Again.

JAGS FALL APART

Remember when the Jaguars were 2-1, having beaten Dallas and Pittsburgh and nearly upsetting Indianapolis? Well, that was a long time ago.

The Jaguars were shocked by Houston, 27-7, last week. Quarterback Byron Leftwich is ticked off about being benched, although Del Rio thinks Leftwich has a bad ankle and has turned to David Garrard. Leftwich said his ankle is fine.

Safety Deon Grant is upset with Del Rio after a misunderstanding got Grant briefly benched this week. Running back Fred Taylor is complaining about a lack of carries in part because his contract incentives can’t be reached. Defensive end Bobby McCray was arrested for reckless driving, and the Jags have also suffered season-ending injuries to defensive stars Reggie Hayward and Mike Peterson.

THIS N’ THAT

Texans defensive end and No. 1 overall pick Mario Williams, on the possibility of sacking Texas product and Titans QB Vince Young today: “I guess it’ll make the media happy to sack Vince. I want to sack everybody; I hope I do.” . . .

Philadelphia’s Brian Westbrook (13 carries for 101 yards, 7 catches for 113 yards) became the first player to have an 100-100 double in 20 or fewer touches since Dallas’ Herschel Walker had 122 rushing yards and 170 receiving yards on just 16 touches against Philly in 1986. . . .

Chandler native Adam Archuleta, who signed a big freeagent contract with the Redskins in the offseason, is in danger of being benched for veteran safety Troy Vincent because Archuleta is struggling so much. . . .

Not only are the Dolphins one of six one-win teams, but Miami has played the easiest schedule thus far and have the hardest remaining schedule of the six teams, facing opponents who have a combined winning percentage of .596 so far. That puts the Dolphins — a preseason playoff pick by many — in line to end up with the No. 1 overall draft pick.

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Blowout or bust

The Chargers lost a heartbreaker in Kansas City last week and host St. Louis today knowing they need to pile on the points. Since December of 2004 and including the playoffs, San Diego has lost nine straight games decided by four points or less. In six of those games, the Chargers had a lead in the fourth quarter.

Ocho Cinco returns

Cincinnati coach Marvin Lewis had asked wideout Chad Johnson to tone down his act this year. But after muddling through six games with one touchdown, Johnson had enough heading into the Bengals’ game against Atlanta.

The man who wears No. 85 said he wanted to be called “Ocho Cinco” and called out Pro Bowl Falcons cornerback DeAngelo Hall by saying today, “DeAngelo falls.”

“I’m going to score more than once,” Johnson predicted. “I’m tired of being quiet. I ain’t had no motivation. I ain’t had no energy. I ain’t had no drive. I don’t care if they put five people on me. I’m going to get it done this week.”

The “D” in Denver

The marquee matchup is Indianapolis’ trip to play the Broncos, especially after the Colts and Peyton Manning lit up Denver for 90 points in two blowout playoff losses after the 2003 and 2004 seasons. Manning threw for 835 yards and nine touchdowns in the two games.

“It’s a whole different ballgame,” promised cornerback Champ Bailey, who wasn’t on those Broncos’ teams.

Denver’s defense is ranked first in the NFL in points allowed, surrendering just 7.3 per game and just two touchdowns total. Both TDs came through the air, but that still makes the Broncos the stingiest pass defense in terms of touchdowns.

Serious underdogs

Ravens coach Brian Billick didn’t try and hold back his perception of his team’s trip to New Orleans to play the surprising Saints in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina.

“Obviously, they are the sweethearts of the league,” Billick said. “Everybody loves them, and deservedly so. You go in and beat them, you might as well go and beat up Mother Teresa. You know, ‘You scums, what are you doing here?’ ”

No place like domes

Many expected the Patriots to be right where they are, 5-1 and atop the AFC East. No one expected the Vikings, who host New England Monday night, to be 4-2.

It should be the makings of a good game, although Tom Brady’s history says that may be moot. Brady has started nine dome games in his career; he has won all nine. Brady did play in the last Pats’ dome loss, a 34-9 Thanksgiving massacre at Detroit started by Drew Bledsoe. Looking ahead The Colts must go to their house of horrors — New England’s Gillette Stadium — for a Sunday night showdown.
 
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Thanks Keg. We discussed this in the Coaches Corner thread last week and a couple of the staffers mentioned it in our weekly content. Didn't realize it didn't make it out into general circulation.

The Skins were already rotating Archuleta out in some series last week. Will be interesting to see how it breaks down this week.

 
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Thanks Keg. We discussed this in the Coaches Corner thread last week and a couple of the staffers mentioned it in our weekly content. Didn't realize it didn't make it out into general circulation.

The Skins were already rotating Archuleta out in some series last week. Will be interesting to see how it breaks down this week.
i have been busy so i didnt dig in like normal, but then again i am not an arch owner so its not like i was actively looking either
 
Thanks Keg. We discussed this in the Coaches Corner thread last week and a couple of the staffers mentioned it in our weekly content. Didn't realize it didn't make it out into general circulation.

The Skins were already rotating Archuleta out in some series last week. Will be interesting to see how it breaks down this week.
is this a trend ??36yrs old Troy Vincent as SS ?

this is gotta be a joke........ :bag:

 
i forgot where i read it (maybe PFW this morning), but a very good point was made that they have opened the vaults to sign marginal players like archuleta, andre carter, brandon "gigli" lloyd...

yet they couldn't find the money to sign antonio pierce, who could have been a difference maker in this defense... dumb decision, but i don't know if that was gibbs (don't think so, because he was talking like he wanted to retain him before & after trade) or GM vinnie "the genius" cerrato...

 
i forgot where i read it (maybe PFW this morning), but a very good point was made that they have opened the vaults to sign marginal players like archuleta, andre carter, brandon "gigli" lloyd...yet they couldn't find the money to sign antonio pierce, who could have been a difference maker in this defense... dumb decision, but i don't know if that was gibbs (don't think so, because he was talking like he wanted to retain him before & after trade) or GM vinnie "the genius" cerrato...
Or the way the team is using them is marginal. 
 
i forgot where i read it (maybe PFW this morning), but a very good point was made that they have opened the vaults to sign marginal players like archuleta, andre carter, brandon "gigli" lloyd...yet they couldn't find the money to sign antonio pierce, who could have been a difference maker in this defense... dumb decision, but i don't know if that was gibbs (don't think so, because he was talking like he wanted to retain him before & after trade) or GM vinnie "the genius" cerrato...
Or the way the team is using them is marginal. 
:goodposting: The only signing that I regret at this point is Archuleta, and I questioned his signing at the time. He's a good blitzer, but they've been getting torched so much on defense that they can't really use him like that. However, he's pathetic in pass coverage, just awful. There's no way that they should have paid him that much money to play safety with those kinds of limitations on his game. Lloyd is a tremendous downfield threat. The problem is Brunell's not using him. Carter is a good pass rusher. He's not very good as a run-stopper and yet they leave him in there on running downs and don't move him around.
 
i forgot where i read it (maybe PFW this morning), but a very good point was made that they have opened the vaults to sign marginal players like archuleta, andre carter, brandon "gigli" lloyd...yet they couldn't find the money to sign antonio pierce, who could have been a difference maker in this defense... dumb decision, but i don't know if that was gibbs (don't think so, because he was talking like he wanted to retain him before & after trade) or GM vinnie "the genius" cerrato...
Or the way the team is using them is marginal. 
:goodposting: The only signing that I regret at this point is Archuleta, and I questioned his signing at the time. He's a good blitzer, but they've been getting torched so much on defense that they can't really use him like that. However, he's pathetic in pass coverage, just awful. There's no way that they should have paid him that much money to play safety with those kinds of limitations on his game. Lloyd is a tremendous downfield threat. The problem is Brunell's not using him. Carter is a good pass rusher. He's not very good as a run-stopper and yet they leave him in there on running downs and don't move him around.
would you really rather have lloyd or randle-el (lets say with stipulation if they were used correctly) than pierce?* which you may not have been commenting on, but that was one of my original points...it just seemed like WAS signed so many free agents that some fans were actually getting exasperated & questioning whether they were circumventing rules, mortgaging future for present, etc... in actuality, they just may be really good at cap management... but it does beg the question, if they are so good at it & seem to have so much money, why not sign one dude in that litany of names that could have been an integral part of the defense...from an outside observer who doesn't follow WAS THAT closely (no more closely than i do all the other teams i have to track as my job as a writer... as a fan, too, i follow rams most closely), it seems like the WAS front office suffers from an all-star mentality... slapping a bunch of high priced free agents together doesn't insure they will mesh or play together well...which i guess was alluded to above in that lloyd is useless if brunnell can't get him ball (maybe that will change if/when jason campell is inserted)...** as to carter, i picked him up in one league but he has been a disappointment... i would be more prepared to deal with the lack of tackles if he got more sacks to compensate, but he has seemed to come up short there as well well... in one league where we don't have a lot of depth behind o-gun & alex brown (guys like udeze & adeyanju), we are thinking about dropping him due to lack of production...
 
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Thanks Keg. We discussed this in the Coaches Corner thread last week and a couple of the staffers mentioned it in our weekly content. Didn't realize it didn't make it out into general circulation.

The Skins were already rotating Archuleta out in some series last week. Will be interesting to see how it breaks down this week.
How much of this is rumour and how much fact, I have looked all over the web and Goggled Archuleta and all I found were a few newspaper speculations, none of the fantasy sites are reporting this, I have only seen it on a few message boards.Do you think this is just a ploy by the Def. coach to spark some of the players with the threat of benching a few? I am wanting to trade Archuleta for a WR but I don't want to knowingly screw the guy I am trading with. Archuleta has put up top 10 fantasy numbers so far this year, and the skins should have known he has never been a great cover guy but does well agianst the run and blitzing. Well if you guys hear anymore please post it! Thanks :cry:

 
Thanks Keg. We discussed this in the Coaches Corner thread last week and a couple of the staffers mentioned it in our weekly content. Didn't realize it didn't make it out into general circulation.

The Skins were already rotating Archuleta out in some series last week. Will be interesting to see how it breaks down this week.
How much of this is rumour and how much fact, I have looked all over the web and Goggled Archuleta and all I found were a few newspaper speculations, none of the fantasy sites are reporting this, I have only seen it on a few message boards.Do you think this is just a ploy by the Def. coach to spark some of the players with the threat of benching a few? I am wanting to trade Archuleta for a WR but I don't want to knowingly screw the guy I am trading with. Archuleta has put up top 10 fantasy numbers so far this year, and the skins should have known he has never been a great cover guy but does well agianst the run and blitzing. Well if you guys hear anymore please post it! Thanks :cry:
they rotated some series last game too...but i am sure redman or another wash homer may have better info
 
Thanks Keg. We discussed this in the Coaches Corner thread last week and a couple of the staffers mentioned it in our weekly content. Didn't realize it didn't make it out into general circulation.

The Skins were already rotating Archuleta out in some series last week. Will be interesting to see how it breaks down this week.
How much of this is rumour and how much fact, I have looked all over the web and Goggled Archuleta and all I found were a few newspaper speculations, none of the fantasy sites are reporting this, I have only seen it on a few message boards.Do you think this is just a ploy by the Def. coach to spark some of the players with the threat of benching a few? I am wanting to trade Archuleta for a WR but I don't want to knowingly screw the guy I am trading with. Archuleta has put up top 10 fantasy numbers so far this year, and the skins should have known he has never been a great cover guy but does well agianst the run and blitzing. Well if you guys hear anymore please post it! Thanks :cry:
A little of all of the above...From Redskins.com

Defensive back Troy Vincent made his debut as a Redskin, coming into the game against the Colts midway through the second quarter. He alternated at safety with Adam Archuleta and finished the game with three tackles.

The Redskins signed Vincent, a 15-year veteran, last Monday to help shore up the pass defense as the team headed to Indianapolis to take on the high-powered Colts.

"Anytime you can add a quality player with his knowledge and experience, he brings a communication aspect and playmaking ability," Shawn Springs said. "I think he still has some juice in his tank. He is going to help a lot."

Washington Times blog (Ryan O'Halloran)

3. Troy Vincent should start vs. Dallas

Signed a week ago and on the field for the first time since Sept. 10, new Redskins safety Troy Vincent played beaucoup snaps against the Colts, sending Archuleta to the sideline.

Vincent should start against the Cowboys, giving Archuleta time to regain his undoubtedly shaky confidence. If Joe Gibbs is all about playing who gives the Redskins the best chance to win, he should OK Vincent into the starting lineup.

 
i forgot where i read it (maybe PFW this morning), but a very good point was made that they have opened the vaults to sign marginal players like archuleta, andre carter, brandon "gigli" lloyd...yet they couldn't find the money to sign antonio pierce, who could have been a difference maker in this defense... dumb decision, but i don't know if that was gibbs (don't think so, because he was talking like he wanted to retain him before & after trade) or GM vinnie "the genius" cerrato...
Or the way the team is using them is marginal. 
:goodposting: The only signing that I regret at this point is Archuleta, and I questioned his signing at the time. He's a good blitzer, but they've been getting torched so much on defense that they can't really use him like that. However, he's pathetic in pass coverage, just awful. There's no way that they should have paid him that much money to play safety with those kinds of limitations on his game. Lloyd is a tremendous downfield threat. The problem is Brunell's not using him. Carter is a good pass rusher. He's not very good as a run-stopper and yet they leave him in there on running downs and don't move him around.
would you really rather have lloyd or randle-el (lets say with stipulation if they were used correctly) than pierce?* which you may not have been commenting on, but that was one of my original points...it just seemed like WAS signed so many free agents that some fans were actually getting exasperated & questioning whether they were circumventing rules, mortgaging future for present, etc... in actuality, they just may be really good at cap management... but it does beg the question, if they are so good at it & seem to have so much money, why not sign one dude in that litany of names that could have been an integral part of the defense...from an outside observer who doesn't follow WAS THAT closely (no more closely than i do all the other teams i have to track as my job as a writer... as a fan, too, i follow rams most closely), it seems like the WAS front office suffers from an all-star mentality... slapping a bunch of high priced free agents together doesn't insure they will mesh or play together well...which i guess was alluded to above in that lloyd is useless if brunnell can't get him ball (maybe that will change if/when jason campell is inserted)...** as to carter, i picked him up in one league but he has been a disappointment... i would be more prepared to deal with the lack of tackles if he got more sacks to compensate, but he has seemed to come up short there as well well... in one league where we don't have a lot of depth behind o-gun & alex brown (guys like udeze & adeyanju), we are thinking about dropping him due to lack of production...
I agree that their actions certainly imply the belief that FA's are equally good with resigned vets. I also believe that it was a mistake to let Pierce go. Smoot and Clark they could afford to allow to leave, but Pierce was the leader on that offense. I think that they overestimated the ability of Lemar Marshall to step in. Marshall has been serviceable, but he's not as smart as Pierce, nor is he as much of a leader or as capable of making plays in the backfield. He's average in every respect, and that's not a good thing. Marshall should be playing the Will like he did so well in 2004 when Arrington missed so many games, and Warrick Holdman should be in street clothes. Continuity is probably most important among offensive linemen, linebackers and safeties. They play their positions relying upon what their cohorts are doing. WR's OTOH can relatively quickly get up to speed and start being productive. Look no further than what guys like Stallworth, Gabriel, Branch, are doing already in the middle of the season. That's why I'm not worried so much about getting Lloyd. Lloyd's not the problem here.
 
Washington Times blog (Ryan O'Halloran)

3. Troy Vincent should start vs. Dallas

Signed a week ago and on the field for the first time since Sept. 10, new Redskins safety Troy Vincent played beaucoup snaps against the Colts, sending Archuleta to the sideline.

Vincent should start against the Cowboys, giving Archuleta time to regain his undoubtedly shaky confidence. If Joe Gibbs is all about playing who gives the Redskins the best chance to win, he should OK Vincent into the starting lineup.
i never thought that a player could regain confidence on the bench......jesus...... :thumbdown:

 
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Young 8 said:
Washington Times blog (Ryan O'Halloran)

3. Troy Vincent should start vs. Dallas

Signed a week ago and on the field for the first time since Sept. 10, new Redskins safety Troy Vincent played beaucoup snaps against the Colts, sending Archuleta to the sideline.

Vincent should start against the Cowboys, giving Archuleta time to regain his undoubtedly shaky confidence. If Joe Gibbs is all about playing who gives the Redskins the best chance to win, he should OK Vincent into the starting lineup.
i never thought that a player could regain confidence on the bench......jesus...... :thumbdown:
Meh, those are a blogger's words, not a coach's. Still, Archuleta has been a disaster in pass coverage, so it looks like he's going to be riding the pine except in obvious run situations.

 
IF Vincent consistently works his way onto the field in place of Archuleta, does that move Taylor into more of a SS role? Could this be a bump to Taylor's fantasy value? Greg Williams has said over and over that he just has two safties; he doesn't have a SS and a FS. But, Taylor tends to be put in more FS situations than SS. Is Vincent going to be able to play the run and blitz effectively to play that SS role?

 
IF Vincent consistently works his way onto the field in place of Archuleta, does that move Taylor into more of a SS role? Could this be a bump to Taylor's fantasy value? Greg Williams has said over and over that he just has two safties; he doesn't have a SS and a FS. But, Taylor tends to be put in more FS situations than SS. Is Vincent going to be able to play the run and blitz effectively to play that SS role?
I would think so ... Haven't seen much of the Skins this year, but Taylor has has 3 nice games in a row before bye. He is currently the 15th ranked DB in my league. They play him closer to the los more and with his big play ability, he will be a IDP stud.
 
IF Vincent consistently works his way onto the field in place of Archuleta, does that move Taylor into more of a SS role? Could this be a bump to Taylor's fantasy value? Greg Williams has said over and over that he just has two safties; he doesn't have a SS and a FS. But, Taylor tends to be put in more FS situations than SS. Is Vincent going to be able to play the run and blitz effectively to play that SS role?
I would think so ... Haven't seen much of the Skins this year, but Taylor has has 3 nice games in a row before bye. He is currently the 15th ranked DB in my league. They play him closer to the los more and with his big play ability, he will be a IDP stud.
Having watched every Skins game, it is my impression that Taylor has been playing much further off the LOS this year than year's past. Part of that probably had to do with how they wanted to use Archuleta. Part of that probably has to do with injuries to the D and the desire to have someone help out in coverage. Or, I could be off base and they've used him similarly than they have the last two years.
 
IF Vincent consistently works his way onto the field in place of Archuleta, does that move Taylor into more of a SS role? Could this be a bump to Taylor's fantasy value? Greg Williams has said over and over that he just has two safties; he doesn't have a SS and a FS. But, Taylor tends to be put in more FS situations than SS. Is Vincent going to be able to play the run and blitz effectively to play that SS role?
I would think so ... Haven't seen much of the Skins this year, but Taylor has has 3 nice games in a row before bye. He is currently the 15th ranked DB in my league. They play him closer to the los more and with his big play ability, he will be a IDP stud.
Having watched every Skins game, it is my impression that Taylor has been playing much further off the LOS this year than year's past. Part of that probably had to do with how they wanted to use Archuleta. Part of that probably has to do with injuries to the D and the desire to have someone help out in coverage. Or, I could be off base and they've used him similarly than they have the last two years.
They love Taylor's speed and athleticism in deep coverage, aka "playing center field". As I've said elsewhere he's one of the only guys in the league who can compete with (a healthy) Randy Moss on a deep ball on equal footing with him. This year of all years, with their coverage sagging like it is, I doubt they'd change that; they're shaky enough back there as it is. The wild card is indeed Vincent, but right now I don't believe that they'll radically change their defensive scheme to accommodate him. This defense is a mess right now.

 
With Archuleta's number 2 ranking in this weeks projections should I not be worried about Troy Vincent? There was not much information during the bye week. Was Vincent factored in during the projections?

 
:lmao: at counting on Troy Vincent for much at this point. Archuleta must be doing really poorly because the Vincent I saw in Buffalo over the past couple years was not very impressive at all. I guess his coverage skills weren't really lacking, but he missed a lot of tackles that he should have made. I can't imagine turning to him as a full-time SS, so I assume Taylor would get an upgrade if Vincent gets extensive playing time.
 
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:lmao: at counting on Troy Vincent for much at this point. Archuleta must be doing really poorly because the Vincent I saw in Buffalo over the past couple years was not very impressive at all. I guess his coverage skills weren't really lacking, but he missed a lot of tackles that he should have made. I can't imagine turning to him as a full-time SS, so I assume Taylor would get an upgrade if Vincent gets extensive playing time.
Right now, putting a professional soccer player out there to head the ball away from WR's would be an upgrade over Archuleta, to give you some idea.
 
IF Vincent consistently works his way onto the field in place of Archuleta, does that move Taylor into more of a SS role? Could this be a bump to Taylor's fantasy value? Greg Williams has said over and over that he just has two safties; he doesn't have a SS and a FS. But, Taylor tends to be put in more FS situations than SS. Is Vincent going to be able to play the run and blitz effectively to play that SS role?
I would think so ... Haven't seen much of the Skins this year, but Taylor has has 3 nice games in a row before bye. He is currently the 15th ranked DB in my league. They play him closer to the los more and with his big play ability, he will be a IDP stud.
Having watched every Skins game, it is my impression that Taylor has been playing much further off the LOS this year than year's past. Part of that probably had to do with how they wanted to use Archuleta. Part of that probably has to do with injuries to the D and the desire to have someone help out in coverage. Or, I could be off base and they've used him similarly than they have the last two years.
This was suppose to be IF THEY.
 
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:lmao: at counting on Troy Vincent for much at this point. Archuleta must be doing really poorly because the Vincent I saw in Buffalo over the past couple years was not very impressive at all. I guess his coverage skills weren't really lacking, but he missed a lot of tackles that he should have made. I can't imagine turning to him as a full-time SS, so I assume Taylor would get an upgrade if Vincent gets extensive playing time.
Right now, putting a professional soccer player out there to head the ball away from WR's would be an upgrade over Archuleta, to give you some idea.
If they were looking for a coverage strong safety, why did they sign Archuleta? (I believe they made him the highest paid safety in history at the time). He is what he is and they knew that coming in. If/when they get a healthy Rogers/Springs combo on the field and IF Sean Taylor didn't gamble so much, maybe Archuleta's coverage skills wouldn't be a problem. And what about a pass rush (hand in hand with coverage)?
 
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:lmao: at counting on Troy Vincent for much at this point. Archuleta must be doing really poorly because the Vincent I saw in Buffalo over the past couple years was not very impressive at all. I guess his coverage skills weren't really lacking, but he missed a lot of tackles that he should have made. I can't imagine turning to him as a full-time SS, so I assume Taylor would get an upgrade if Vincent gets extensive playing time.
Right now, putting a professional soccer player out there to head the ball away from WR's would be an upgrade over Archuleta, to give you some idea.
If they were looking for a coverage strong safety, why did they sign Archuleta? (I believe they made him the highest paid safety in history at the time). He is what he is and they knew that coming in. If/when they get a healthy Rogers/Springs combo on the field and IF Sean Taylor didn't gamble so much, maybe Archuleta's coverage skills wouldn't be a problem. And what about a pass rush (hand in hand with coverage)?
Snyder is an idiot. The Redskins are in disarray and the funny thing to me is that I think it's gonna get worse before it gets better..
 
:lmao: at counting on Troy Vincent for much at this point. Archuleta must be doing really poorly because the Vincent I saw in Buffalo over the past couple years was not very impressive at all. I guess his coverage skills weren't really lacking, but he missed a lot of tackles that he should have made. I can't imagine turning to him as a full-time SS, so I assume Taylor would get an upgrade if Vincent gets extensive playing time.
Right now, putting a professional soccer player out there to head the ball away from WR's would be an upgrade over Archuleta, to give you some idea.
If they were looking for a coverage strong safety, why did they sign Archuleta? (I believe they made him the highest paid safety in history at the time). He is what he is and they knew that coming in. If/when they get a healthy Rogers/Springs combo on the field and IF Sean Taylor didn't gamble so much, maybe Archuleta's coverage skills wouldn't be a problem. And what about a pass rush (hand in hand with coverage)?
They weren't looking for a coverage safety. They were looking for a guy who was good in run support and on blitzes. The problem has been that due to injuries and poor play at CB, they've been unable to play that sort of defense and have had to use Archuleta more in coverage. The irony is that this Sunday their entire defense will be healthy and playing (or at least starting) together for the first time this season now that both Springs and Rogers, as well as Griffin are back in the lineup. We'll see what happens.
 
With Archuleta's number 2 ranking in this weeks projections should I not be worried about Troy Vincent? There was not much information during the bye week. Was Vincent factored in during the projections?
I second that emotion! Archuleta is forecast for 11 tackles and a pass defensed. I assume that's IF he's starting, right???EDIT: Never mind, found the other Archuleta thread!
 
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Wow! Great Washington Post article disecting the Redskins pass defense problems, with Archuleta prominently mentioned:

For Foes, a Redskins Flaw ExposedBy Howard BryantWashington Post Staff WriterSunday, November 5, 2006; Page E01Two quarters into his first game as a Washington Redskin, safety Troy Vincent is optimistic. His new team leads the unbeaten Indianapolis Colts, 14-13, and he sees an even more encouraging sign: Despite a penchant for giving up big plays this season, the Redskins have surrendered just one long pass to Peyton Manning, the most dangerous quarterback in the league.In the locker room at halftime, Vincent tells his fellow defensive backs that they can steal this game. If they can just keep the pressure on and not allow big passing plays in the second half, they can beat the heavily favored Colts on their home field.But with 8 minutes 18 seconds remaining in the third quarter, any hope of victory disappears. Manning, tight end Dallas Clark and running back Joseph Addai line up at midfield. Clark runs a pass pattern up the middle of the field, past Redskins linebacker Khary Campbell. Safety Adam Archuleta notices and takes a fatal step in to help cover Clark. Manning catches Archuleta cheating and throws deep to the spot he has just vacated to an open Reggie Wayne running a post corner, the exact route that all season long has been open against the Redskins defense when the safety is caught too shallow.The 51-yard touchdown play devastates Washington. By taking that single step inward toward Clark, Archuleta has sacrificed the battle to try to win the war -- and lost on both fronts. The Colts lead, 27-14, and the game is gone.For days afterward, Redskins safeties coach Steve Jackson was sick about the play. "I can't talk about that play," Jackson said. Although he was unwilling to talk about the particulars of that play, he offered his basic philosophy on playing the position: "All I can say is that when you play safety, you play deep to short. Deep to short. Nothing over your head."In the days between the Indianapolis loss and today's NFC East matchup with the Dallas Cowboys at FedEx Field, the Redskins coaching staff painstakingly reviewed tape from the team's first seven games. In all, they dissected 79 series and 436 total plays from scrimmage over seven games.What assistant head coach-defense Gregg Williams and his staff found is disturbing to them. A season-long problem has not gone away: opposing offenses are relentlessly attacking the middle seams of Washington's two primary-zone pass defenses. More than half of the big pass plays the Redskins have surrendered have been to the same fertile patch between the hash marks downfield, between the safeties and cornerbacks. Teams use the same trigger -- usually a play-action fake -- to the same receivers, either a tight end or slot receiver. The receiver runs a post corner, cutting into the seam of the zone, while the tight end streaks down the middle of the field.Offenses are using the Redskins' aggressiveness -- that of Archuleta especially -- against them by employing the play-action fakes, according to multiple league sources that study Washington's defensive tendencies. Known throughout the league as a feared hitter, offenses also have found success attacking safety Sean Taylor -- not in the running game, where he is a force, but increasingly by testing his pass-coverage skills.Sources inside and outside the Redskins organization say these vulnerabilities have been apparent since the preseason. Yet, neither the Redskins players nor coaches have been able to do anything about it.The coaches say stopping this play should not be difficult. Both the Cover-2 zone (the two safeties split the deep part of the field, providing cover to the two cornerbacks to discourage long passes) and the 3-2-6 zone (a formation that uses three down linemen, two linebackers and six defensive backs) are common among NFL defenses. In recent years the Redskins have used both better than most.But getting them to work this season has proven complicated. Williams and his staff say they have explained what needs to be done, showed it to the players on film and, week after week, been satisfied by the adjustments in practice. "You have to practice it Wednesday. You have to practice it Thursday and Friday," cornerbacks coach Jerry Gray said. "And hopefully it sinks in to where Sunday, you say the stuff that I've seen on film and practice will come back to me."So far this season, the results on Sundays have disappointed. Being attacked weekly in the same location is vexing a coaching staff that believes it has taught all it can teach. It is forcing Washington's coaches to come to another conclusion: Perhaps they do not have as talented a defensive secondary as they once thought."None of this is new to us," Gray said. "Good players don't keep giving up the same play the same way and expect a good result."'A Copycat League'Statistically, Washington's deficiencies are evident. The Redskins are ranked 26th in total defense and 30th against the pass. No team has given up more pass plays of more than 40 yards, and only Green Bay's surrender of 32 pass plays greater than 20 yards exceeds the Redskins' 30.Jimmy Johnson, the former Dallas coach who is now an analyst for Fox, is surprised the Redskins' defense has been so vulnerable for so long. "You have to re-route that slot receiver, where he doesn't have a clean release," Johnson said. "If you don't, I don't care who is back there, the safeties can't cover that much ground. Something will be open."Of those 30 pass plays of more than 20 yards, 16 have been completed to the vulnerable seam inside the hash marks against Cover-2 or the dime 3-2-6. It was precisely the spot Wayne exploited and one of the reasons Vincent was brought in from Buffalo two weeks ago."You get paid to cover in the National Football League. There are certain safeties who play in the box or certain corners that are supposedly physical corners. At the end of the day, when you keep the big ball off of you, you stay in the National Football League," Vincent said. "When I can keep that big ball off of me, I keep the zebra stripes from putting up the touchdown sign, and I give my team another chance to line up again."One league source suggested looking back to Aug. 26, in the third preseason game, when New England quarterback Tom Brady threw for 231 yards in just under two and a half quarters in a 41-0 demolition of the Redskins. It was in that game, the source said, that the middle seam was first exposed. Patriots tight end Ben Watson and slot receiver Troy Brown combined for 12 receptions and 161 yards, gouging the Redskins' middle for plays of 35 and 36 yards, respectively. The Patriots riddled the Redskins with the post corner route.Afterward, Williams called it "stupid" to assume a preseason game contained any real significance. But on a night when the score didn't count, Brady found a weakness in the Redskins' defense that's been exploited ever since, according to league sources.Williams on Thursday said he was confident that he had explained the problem to the Redskins secondary. Williams intimated that perhaps his players simply aren't good enough in certain situations."It never is any one thing or any one person. And sometimes we miss a tackle here, or there's been a personnel mismatch where a guy is just a better player at the point of attack," he said. "We've got to minimize those blows and it happens with technique. It happens with our personnel being better, but until you take it away, until you make a team pay, they're going to continue to do that. It's a copycat league."During the bye week, the Redskins defensive coaches used PowerPoint presentations and gave players DVDs of game film to study to help fix the problem. The players were able to watch the film of Brady in the preseason game against New England, and, in this copycat league, each opponent that followed.On opening day the Minnesota Vikings beat the 3-2-6 and the Cover-2, both on key on third-and-9 plays, both at the hash marks, for 22 and 29 yards, respectively.A week later against Dallas, the Cowboys beat the Cover-2 when, like Archuleta on the Wayne touchdown, Taylor followed tight end Jason Witten underneath, leaving wide receiver Terry Glenn deep and alone in the seam against cornerback Kenny Wright. Wright was called for pass interference and Dallas later scored a touchdown.For Foes, a Redskins Flaw ExposedOn the winning drive that ended with Glenn running the post corner from the slot to beat the seam for the second time in the game -- this time for a touchdown -- Cowboys running back Marion Barber beat the 3-2-6 when Redskins linebackers Lemar Marshall and Marcus Washington were blocked into one another, turning a four-yard pass into a 26-yard gain. On the following play, Glenn's big score flattened the Redskins."Those are easy plays," Gray said. "Our players are in position to make those plays, and we just have to get them. Play to the design of the defense and take it away. And when we do, you'll see."Washington beat Houston, 31-15, on Sept. 24, but three and a half minutes into the game, the tape revealed how Texans wide receiver Andre Johnson copied Glenn by moving into the slot and catching a 53-yard post corner. Archuleta opened the play by falling for a play-action fake.In the 36-30 Redskins win over Jacksonville, the Jaguars burned the 3-2-6 twice for touchdowns of 33 and 51 yards, the former coming when, just asin the Dallas game, Marshall missed wide receiver Reggie Williams over the middle and a four-yard pass turned into a 33-yard touchdown.In the loss to the Giants, quarterback Eli Manning used play action with running back Tiki Barber to free slot receiver Plaxico Burress, who beat Taylor inside the hash marks for 46 yards.In the Redskins' worst game to date, rookie Tennessee quarterback Vince Young exploited the seam in Washington's 25-22 home loss. Two minutes in, slot receiver Bobby Wade beat Taylor along the seam in coverage. Young used the seam to his advantage for three 20-yard plays on the afternoon, the biggest coming on a fourth-and-two 23-yard pass to wide receiver Brandon Jones.On four major plays, the Colts used a similar formation, with a similar trigger -- play action -- and the Redskins fell for it every time."When you're getting beaten the same way every time, the best thing to do is get new players," Johnson said. "But you can't do that midway through the season in the NFL, so you have to disguise the coverage, to make them think one thing when they're getting another."
 
Per rotoworld, Archuleta has been benched for Vincent.
I don't believe the team has formally come out and announced this, but read this article to get some insight into the situation.
I'm not sure if the team has officially announced Archuleta's benching, but John Czarnecki says Vincent will start over Archuleta. This is enough of a red-flag for me to look elsewhere.link:

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/6139024

GAME: Dallas at Washington TIME: 1 ET

WHAT TO WATCH FOR: This is a must-win game for the Redskins, who can't afford to go down 0-3 in the NFC East and 2-6 overall. The best news is that the Redskins defense will have both starting cornerbacks, Shawn Springs and Carlos Rogers, in the lineup, allowing them to play more man coverage. Troy Vincent replaces safety Adam Archuleta. With most of his players in place, look for defensive coordinator Gregg Williams to call more blitzes against Tony Romo, who is making his second NFL start. The Cowboys believe they can spread the field and still run inside with Julius Jones; they will test Vincent. Romo's favorite receiver is Terrell Owens, who saw 16 passes in the team's win over Carolina. The Redskins are hurt without WR Santana Moss, the hero in the two-game sweep of Dallas last season.

CZAR'S SCOOP: Believe it or not, the Cowboys scored a club-record 25 fourth-quarter points last weekend in Carolina. Word is that Drew Bledsoe isn't dealing too well with his benching and this is probably his last season in Dallas. Bill Parcells is 14-8 all-time vs. Joe Gibbs, who seems reluctant to play QB Jason Campbell, a player the Redskins moved up in the first round two years ago in order to draft. Springs compared Romo favorably to Matt Hasselbeck and Drew Brees. The Redskins are averaging only 7.5 points in the second half this season. Washington has blown halftime leads to Minnesota and Tennessee at FedEx Field. Washington offensive coordinator Al Saunders is taking some heat for the play-calling and because his style doesn't appear to help Washington's defense. Parcells took notice of exactly that in a recent New York Times feature.

 
I just saw a postgame interview with Greg Williams. He was asked about Archuleta and began talking about players being in certain packages and that's what dictates how much a player plays. That's the exact reason they gave last year for Lavar's limited role at the beginning of the season.

However, it's important to note that Archuleta was in the game for Dallas' last drive...giving up the big play to Witten.

 
I just saw a postgame interview with Greg Williams. He was asked about Archuleta and began talking about players being in certain packages and that's what dictates how much a player plays. That's the exact reason they gave last year for Lavar's limited role at the beginning of the season.However, it's important to note that Archuleta was in the game for Dallas' last drive...giving up the big play to Witten.
I don't know if he's always operated this way but since he's been in Washington Williams like Gibbs takes the high road when talking about players' performances and doesn't bash them. That was true even when Lavar came out with a whiny/critical article in the Washington Times last year the week before the must-win final game of the season. I think Archuleta has been more or less informally switched with Vincent as a nickel or dime safety.
 
redman said:
dgreen said:
I just saw a postgame interview with Greg Williams. He was asked about Archuleta and began talking about players being in certain packages and that's what dictates how much a player plays. That's the exact reason they gave last year for Lavar's limited role at the beginning of the season.However, it's important to note that Archuleta was in the game for Dallas' last drive...giving up the big play to Witten.
I don't know if he's always operated this way but since he's been in Washington Williams like Gibbs takes the high road when talking about players' performances and doesn't bash them. That was true even when Lavar came out with a whiny/critical article in the Washington Times last year the week before the must-win final game of the season. I think Archuleta has been more or less informally switched with Vincent as a nickel or dime safety.
I agree. I think "packages" is the dreaded word in Gibbs/Williams-speak.
 
Archuleta may prove to be the worst free agent signing in Redskins history. And that's saying something. Seems to me he's worse than Ryan Clark for three times the price.

 
Archuleta may prove to be the worst free agent signing in Redskins history. And that's saying something. Seems to me he's worse than Ryan Clark for three times the price.
Regretfully, I have to agree. I had hoped that the coaching staff had some great plan built around his strengths that would hide his weaknesses, but his pass coverage is simply awful. It makes me wish for Matt Bowen or Matt Stevens back at safety. :X
 
Archuleta may prove to be the worst free agent signing in Redskins history. And that's saying something. Seems to me he's worse than Ryan Clark for three times the price.
Could be......but Lloyd and Randel El's combined $50+mm in contracts (with $20+mm guaranteed), 357 yards and 1 TD through eight games are making a serious push for the title.
 
Archuleta may prove to be the worst free agent signing in Redskins history. And that's saying something. Seems to me he's worse than Ryan Clark for three times the price.
Could be......but Lloyd and Randel El's combined $50+mm in contracts (with $20+mm guaranteed), 357 yards and 1 TD through eight games are making a serious push for the title.
Honestly, there's no comparison between those two guys and AA. Randle El has been a spark for that team as a PR and as a WR, and has been great as a WR3. That's not translated into fantasy points, but the team loves him. Lloyd is simply underutilized, but he has shown that he should be used more. He's even doing little things that help, such as his block out on the edge of Portis' rushing TD that sprung him. I think he'll be fine. AA flat out sucks. He's gotten every opportunity to perform and simply can't do it.
 
Archuleta may prove to be the worst free agent signing in Redskins history. And that's saying something. Seems to me he's worse than Ryan Clark for three times the price.
Could be......but Lloyd and Randel El's combined $50+mm in contracts (with $20+mm guaranteed), 357 yards and 1 TD through eight games are making a serious push for the title.
To me, you can't compare randel el and lloyd to arch. Arch has been just plain awful. Randle El has actually been good on special teams (TD vs. colts) and on offense when he touches the ball. He doesn't get a whole lot of targets. When either guy is benched for a guy picked up off of waivers then we can compare. And Archuleta has a bigger bonus and more of a per year salary than either Randle El or Lloyd. Moreover, the SS position wasn't even a huge need given the alternative of resigning clark for 1/3 of the cost of Archuleta. Neither Randle El or Lloyd have been liabilities, Archuleta has, for more money. As a redskin fan, believe me, I wish I had better things to argue.
 
Archuleta may prove to be the worst free agent signing in Redskins history. And that's saying something. Seems to me he's worse than Ryan Clark for three times the price.
Could be......but Lloyd and Randel El's combined $50+mm in contracts (with $20+mm guaranteed), 357 yards and 1 TD through eight games are making a serious push for the title.
Honestly, there's no comparison between those two guys and AA. Randle El has been a spark for that team as a PR and as a WR, and has been great as a WR3. That's not translated into fantasy points, but the team loves him. Lloyd is simply underutilized, but he has shown that he should be used more. He's even doing little things that help, such as his block out on the edge of Portis' rushing TD that sprung him. I think he'll be fine.

AA flat out sucks. He's gotten every opportunity to perform and simply can't do it.
I feel like we're disagreeing over which diaper smells worse. :D Arculeta was a free-agent signing (...and a terrible free agent signing, at that). The Skins paid too much $$$ for a position that does not dictate such an outlay. Lloyd, however, was not only given a large contract extension, but the Skins also gave a 3rd in '06 and a 4th in '07 to acquire him. To give Lloyd a "he's underuitilized" hall-pass when he's on target for 380 yards and no scores is :X .

To make matters worse, you would think either Lloyd or Randel El would have stepped-up their game with Santana Moss out this past week. The result?? A combined 26 yards receiving between the two. When James Thrash is doubling the receiving totals for your two prized WR signings, there are major problems with the coaching and/or front office.

 
I feel like we're disagreeing over which diaper smells worse. :D

Arculeta was a free-agent signing (...and a terrible free agent signing, at that). The Skins paid too much $$$ for a position that does not dictate such an outlay. Lloyd, however, was not only given a large contract extension, but the Skins also gave a 3rd in '06 and a 4th in '07 to acquire him. To give Lloyd a "he's underuitilized" hall-pass when he's on target for 380 yards and no scores is :X .

To make matters worse, you would think either Lloyd or Randel El would have stepped-up their game with Santana Moss out this past week. The result?? A combined 26 yards receiving between the two. When James Thrash is doubling the receiving totals for your two prized WR signings, there are major problems with the coaching and/or front office.
I stand by what I said about ARE and Lloyd. To understand what I'm getting at, especially as to Lloyd's underutilization, you need to understand that his deep routes either are getting safety coverage up top forcing Brunell to throw underneath (e.g. the Houston game), or he's running free but Brunell's still not throwing to him. Lloyd yesterday, BTW, had a great catch downfield nullified by a very questionable holding penalty. Honestly, Lloyd's not the problem; it's a combo of Brunell always looking for Moss and the coaching staff not calling plays very well - although yesterday's play-calling was an improvement. There are more fundamental problems that need to be sorted out with this offense before we can really judge Lloyd's and ARE's value.

 

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