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Startup Dynasty Draft (1 Viewer)

Who would be the #15 pick in a startup dynasty draft?

  • Rudi Johnson

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  • Shaun Alexander

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  • Adrian Peterson

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  • Willis McGahee

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  • Steve Smith

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  • Chad Johnson

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  • Carson Palmer

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  • Other

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jeter23

jeter23

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We are nearing the point of the offseason in which many startup dynasty drafts are held. In the next three weeks leading up to the NFL draft, I will be posting a series of polls asking about how you see this year's dynasty drafts unfolding.

The polls will be based on the following lineup in a 12 team league-

QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, TE, Flex (RB, WR, TE) K, D

As far as scoring, assume 4 points for passing TDs and PPR for all positions.

If you vote for other, please post and let us know who you voted for.

1. Ladanian Tomlinson

2. Steven Jackson

3. Larry Johnson

4. Reggie Bush

5. Frank Gore

6. Brian Westbrook

7. Clinton Portis

8. Joseph Addai

9. Laurence Maroney

10. Larry Fitzgerald

11. Peyton Manning

12. Willie Parker

13. Maurice Jones Drew

14. Ronnie Brown

 
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ravnzfan said:
"Team 10"...Fitz/Peterson would be a GREAT start---super production, for a long time
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didn't say we'd get 1800 yds from him in yr 1, did I?I said "super production, for a long time from the 2"---which you really can't argueand anybody that takes a QB in rd 1-3 is welcome in any of my leagues, any timeI GOT Palmer (plus Mk Clayton & Furrey) in a trade in one of my dynasty leagues for JCampbell, Penny, Housh, 1.11 rook....you don't draft him, or any QB, 15 overall
 
KellysHeroes said:
not really; you want your RB#1 to be a rookie?? yr 1 would suck hard
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taking Peterson as the first RB doesn't mean he is your RB1, day 1 of season 1---means he's the RB you'd like to own longest in a dynasty leaguePeterson's situation and value l/t sits in where he's drafted---I'd obviously'd want to know that before I actually drafted him @15...and I would also make it a point to cuff him w/whoever his running mate would be, and I'd certainly own at least 2 other RB-1's if I'd commit to a rookie like AD this earlyand there is a long way to go in this draft to say that a team w/Fitz-Peterson as it's first 2 selections would "suck hard"
 
TheLastDispatch said:
AD's not proven... I'll go Palmer here.
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so Fitz-Palmer rd 1-2?w/no RB until 3.10, this team would have a harder time, long term, than a team starting out Fitz-AD...you are totaly passing on any good, young RB and would need to count on Jamal Lewis, AGreen and Dayne to carry the load as the only RB's available---I wouldn't mind having those guys this yr, w/Peterson on my bench and say Bulger starting...or Cutler...or whoeverbut to commit to a Fitz-Palmer start is poor planning long term, IMO
 
ravnzfan said:
TheLastDispatch said:
AD's not proven... I'll go Palmer here.
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so Fitz-Palmer rd 1-2?w/no RB until 3.10, this team would have a harder time, long term, than a team starting out Fitz-AD...you are totaly passing on any good, young RB and would need to count on Jamal Lewis, AGreen and Dayne to carry the load as the only RB's available---I wouldn't mind having those guys this yr, w/Peterson on my bench and say Bulger starting...or Cutler...or whoeverbut to commit to a Fitz-Palmer start is poor planning long term, IMO
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Don't worry, just take Turner in round 3. :popcorn:I like the Fitz/AD combo. I voted Rudi before I considered who "10" had in round 1, so if this is close, swap a Rudi pick to AD.
 
-OZ- said:
ravnzfan said:
TheLastDispatch said:
AD's not proven... I'll go Palmer here.
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so Fitz-Palmer rd 1-2?w/no RB until 3.10, this team would have a harder time, long term, than a team starting out Fitz-AD...you are totaly passing on any good, young RB and would need to count on Jamal Lewis, AGreen and Dayne to carry the load as the only RB's available---I wouldn't mind having those guys this yr, w/Peterson on my bench and say Bulger starting...or Cutler...or whoeverbut to commit to a Fitz-Palmer start is poor planning long term, IMO
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Don't worry, just take Turner in round 3. :wall:I like the Fitz/AD combo. I voted Rudi before I considered who "10" had in round 1, so if this is close, swap a Rudi pick to AD.
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If I already had a back, Carson would be my pick. As it stands, I'd go with Peterson.
 
ravnzfan said:
KellysHeroes said:
not really; you want your RB#1 to be a rookie?? yr 1 would suck hard
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taking Peterson as the first RB doesn't mean he is your RB1, day 1 of season 1---means he's the RB you'd like to own longest in a dynasty leaguePeterson's situation and value l/t sits in where he's drafted---I'd obviously'd want to know that before I actually drafted him @15...and I would also make it a point to cuff him w/whoever his running mate would be, and I'd certainly own at least 2 other RB-1's if I'd commit to a rookie like AD this earlyand there is a long way to go in this draft to say that a team w/Fitz-Peterson as it's first 2 selections would "suck hard"
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I'm not sure you can so easily make that differentiation. For all of Petersons hype you still assume a large amount of risk in selecting him over guys like Rudi. For all we know A.P. could end up no better than Curtis Enis, McGahee, Ricky Williams, William Green, or Ronnie Brown for that matter. Unachieved potential. It happens. More often than we care to admit. Sure swinging for the fences might yield you a LT or Sjax, but the probabilities just don’t bear that out.Be safe, pocket the value, take Rudi. Win your league.
 
jeter23 said:
How far would yo all like to see this go? 2 rounds? 3? 5?
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At least 5. Now that the first round is over and we have to base our picks upon what has already been selected - the player selecting at 2.03 assumes they drafted the consensus 1.10 player, this is just now getting interesting.Edited for clarity.
 
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Mister CIA said:
jeter23 said:
How far would yo all like to see this go? 2 rounds? 3? 5?
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At least 5. Now that the first round is over and we have to base our picks upon what has already been selected - the player selecting at 2.03 assumes they drafted the consensus 1.10 player, this is just now getting interesting.Edited for clarity.
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At least 5. You could go to the top 100, as long as there's interest.
 
-OZ- said:
Mister CIA said:
jeter23 said:
How far would yo all like to see this go? 2 rounds? 3? 5?
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At least 5. Now that the first round is over and we have to base our picks upon what has already been selected - the player selecting at 2.03 assumes they drafted the consensus 1.10 player, this is just now getting interesting.Edited for clarity.
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At least 5. You could go to the top 100, as long as there's interest.
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Fine by me. I was viewing this as something to do up until the draft since many startups take place soon after that. We need to pick up the pace. Looks like AD (or AP if you prefer) has this one.
 
Rudi Johnson [ 8 ] [11.27%]

Shaun Alexander [ 6 ] [8.45%]

Adrian Peterson [ 26 ] [36.62%]

Willis McGahee [ 6 ] [8.45%]

Steve Smith [ 11 ] [15.49%]

Chad Johnson [ 5 ] [7.04%]

Carson Palmer [ 9 ] [12.68%]

Other [ 0 ] [0.00%]

 
KellysHeroes said:
jeter23 said:
How far would yo all like to see this go? 2 rounds? 3? 5?
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I can't take it seriously anymore if this pick is Peterson
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I don't get what your problem is with Peterson. He's an elite prospect the same as Bush was last year. I'm not saying that Peterson should go here but a lot of people are willing to take year 1 off for the chance to have a stud several years down the road. That's one strategy, just like taking Alexander here (or earlier) would be to win now.
 
Peterson could very well be the next Caddy or Benson. In a ppr league I'm locking up SS's production and collecting the RB value in rds 4-8.

 
cstu said:
KellysHeroes said:
jeter23 said:
How far would yo all like to see this go? 2 rounds? 3? 5?
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I can't take it seriously anymore if this pick is Peterson
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I don't get what your problem is with Peterson. He's an elite prospect the same as Bush was last year. I'm not saying that Peterson should go here but a lot of people are willing to take year 1 off for the chance to have a stud several years down the road. That's one strategy, just like taking Alexander here (or earlier) would be to win now.
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:wub: Quite honestly, I would be shocked if Peterson lasted til pick 15 in a startup dynasty draft.
 
-OZ- said:
KellysHeroes said:
jeter23 said:
How far would yo all like to see this go? 2 rounds? 3? 5?
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I can't take it seriously anymore if this pick is Peterson
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You mean you were?
KING said:
why was only fitz, and manning in the run-off.....this draft just lost any credibility that it may have had with me.
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Do you ever stop #####ing?
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Don't you mean "Why don't you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don't you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don't you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?"
 
jeter23 said:
-OZ- said:
Mister CIA said:
jeter23 said:
How far would yo all like to see this go? 2 rounds? 3? 5?
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At least 5. Now that the first round is over and we have to base our picks upon what has already been selected - the player selecting at 2.03 assumes they drafted the consensus 1.10 player, this is just now getting interesting.Edited for clarity.
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At least 5. You could go to the top 100, as long as there's interest.
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Fine by me. I was viewing this as something to do up until the draft since many startups take place soon after that. We need to pick up the pace. Looks like AD (or AP if you prefer) has this one.
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I say do as many as you can until the Draft, and then feel things out. Likely things will get too frustrating by that point to do any more, but I and certainly many others are interested in any results you find.
 
KellysHeroes said:
jeter23 said:
How far would yo all like to see this go? 2 rounds? 3? 5?
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I can't take it seriously anymore if this pick is Peterson
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good-bye...thanx for stopping in :bye: I run, and play in, 13 dynasty leagues---believe me, I've seen it all

while I wouldn't just blindly go after the 1st RB drafted in an NFL rookie draft to add to my squad early in an initial dynasty draft, consider what the 2000's have yielded:

'00-JLewis- ;)

'01-LTomlinson- :shrug:

'02-WGreen- :X

'03-McGahee- :thumbup:

'04-SJax- :(

'05-RBrown- :thumbup:

'06-RBush- :bowtie:

3 of the 7 are absolute studs, 3 more certainly serviceable as RB1's over the course of their career and 1 absolute turd

again---I'm approaching this as an initial dynasty draft and I already own Fitz w/1.10....I absolutey pass on QB, and look for my l/t RB1 at this spot over another WR (keep in mind the assumption is the Peterson situation is favorable, post-draft)

I feel better about being able to land decent WR's 4-8 than the RB's Bass would be looking for in the same rounds

...and if we can at least get thru round 5, we'd be able to see how each teams core is set up

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a little walk down memory lane, where I remember getting absolutey BLASTED for my selection of Larry Johnson @1.12...keep in mind, the Padre was still the starter that season:

1.1--LT

1.2--McGahee

1.3--PManning(owner traded up to get him)

1.4--Culpepper*

1.5--JJones*

1.6--KJones*

1.7--SAlexander

1.8--CPortis

1.9--Edge*

1.10-Deuce*

1.11-JLewis

1.12-LJohnson

1.13-DDavis*

1.14-AGreen

2.1--SJax

2.2--Rudi

2.3--RMoss (later traded for Wayne and 3 rookie picks {Moats-CJax-BCroyle})

2.4--TBell*

2.5--CBrown*

2.6--TJones

2.7--Westy

2.8--Dillon *(to the owner that traded up for, then traded Manning)

2.9--McNabb

2.10-Tiki*

2.11-CMart*

2.12-LSuggs*

2.13-Vick

2.14-TO

the owner that traded up for Manning later traded him for CPalmer...who then traded Palmer, to me!

so this draft yielded me LJ (when he wasn't starting), Wayne (+ 3 draft picks) and Palmer-Furrey-Mark Clayton (for an 8th rounder in Penny, a rookie in JCampbell and a WR in Housh)

Johnson was "better dynasty value" than any player not named Tomlinson, and the 2nd round selection avoided players such as CBrown, Dillon, CMart, Tiki and Suggs

you can argue that the yr Martin had was a good one (it was), or that the 2 Tiki put up would have won you a SB (or 2)---or maybe not...but anyone taking those players then are likely hurting today

also, keep in mind that 12* of 28 of these players (43% of the first 2 rounds of a dynasty draft 2 years ago!) are either out of the league completely, or not in the RB1 situation they were drafted into

I made the playoffs in the first yr of this league ('05) and lost in the semi's last yr to LT-TO owner, who traded for Manning

let the other guys take those QB's early, while you put a solid starting core together---including a young RB you can count on for at least 4-5 yrs

 
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jeter23 said:
How far would yo all like to see this go? 2 rounds? 3? 5?
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Many initial dynasty drafts are going to start up after the NFL rookie draft is over next weekend. I imagine a number of posters and lurkers on these boards are very interested in seeing what the "consensus" picks look like right now.
 
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