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Mike Mayock's position rankings for 2015 NFL Draft

By Mike Mayock

NFL Media draft analyst

With the NFL Scouting Combine beginning on Feb. 17, Mike Mayock unveils the first of his position-by-position rankings for the 2015 NFL Draft.

Quarterback

1. Jameis Winston, Florida State

2. Marcus Mariota, Oregon

3. Bryce Petty, Baylor

4. Brett Hundley, UCLA

5. Garrett Grayson, Colorado State

Running back

1. Melvin Gordon, Wisconsin

2. Todd Gurley, Georgia

3. Ameer Abdullah, Nebraska

4. Duke Johnson, Miami (Fla.)

5. Tevin Coleman, Indiana

Wide receiver

1. Kevin White, West Virginia

2. Amari Cooper, Alabama

3. DeVante Parker, Louisville

4. Dorial Green-Beckham, Missouri

5. Devin Funchess, Michigan

Tight end

1. Maxx Williams, Minnesota

2. Clive Walford, Miami (Fla.)

3. Nick O'Leary, Florida State

4. Tyler Kroft, Rutgers

5. Ben Koyack, Notre Dame

Interior offensive linemen

1. Brandon Scherff, Iowa

2. Cameron Erving, Florida State

3. Laken Tomlinson, Duke

4. A.J. Cann, South Carolina

5. Tre' Jackson, Florida State

Offensive tackle

1. T.J. Clemmings, Pittsburgh

2. Andrus Peat, Stanford

3. La'el Collins, LSU

4. Ereck Flowers, Miami (Fla.)

5t. Cedric Ogbuehi, Texas A&M

5t. D.J. Humphries, Florida


Interior defensive linemen

1. Leonard Williams, USC

2. Danny Shelton, Washington

3. Malcom Brown, Texas

4. Arik Armstead, Oregon

5t. Jordan Phillips, Oklahoma

5t. Eddie Goldman, Florida State

Edge rusher

1. Dante Fowler, Jr., Florida

2. Randy Gregory, Nebraska

3. Shane Ray, Missouri

4. Vic Beasley, Clemson

5. Bud Dupree, Kentucky

Linebacker

1. Paul Dawson, TCU

2. Benardrick McKinney, Mississippi State

3. Denzel Perryman, Miami (Fla.)

4. Eric Kendricks, UCLA

5. Stephone Anthony, Clemson

Cornerback

1. Trae Waynes, Michigan State

2. Marcus Peters, Washington

3. Jalen Collins, LSU

4. P.J. Williams, Florida State

5. Kevin Johnson, Wake Forest

Safety

1. Landon Collins, Alabama

2. Shaq Thompson, Washington

3. Derron Smith, Fresno State

4. Jaquiski Tartt, Samford

5. Ibraheim Campbell, Northwestern
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Trends the you'll see the pack start following:

Cooper maybe not the consensus #1 guy.

Fowler up, Gregory down.

Dawson climbing everyone's lists.

Thompson as a safety.

 
If Shaq Thompson can run like a safety, then I really want him for the Vikings defense. Zimmer would make him a menace, I think.

 
An interview with NFL Network Analyst Mike Mayock

Exerpts I found interesting-

Q. You mentioned the wide receiver
group being pretty good this year. Compare it
to last year. 15 went in the first three rounds
last year, including five in the first. Could we
see similar numbers this year from this group?

MIKE MAYOCK: In the last five years,
there's been an average of 13 wide receivers that
go in the first three rounds, and an average of 3.8
in the first round.

Now, more importantly, last year's wideout
group was historically tremendous. All five
first-round picks were highly productive. In the
second round you have Jordan Matthews, Davante
Adams, Allen Robinson, [Jarvis] Landry. In the
third round you had Josh Brown, fourth round Martavis Bryant.

It wasn't just the guys up top, it was the
depth throughout. So I think there are reasons in
today's NFL why rookie wide receivers can come
in and play well early.

Real quickly, these kids have been used to
catching the football forever. Everything is a
pass-first league now. Number two, with the
emphasis on the five-yard rule, the smaller
wideouts are getting off press coverage, they know
after five yards they can run routes with impunity.

Finally, the big-bodied wideouts, they don't really
have to be route runners. They're 6'5", 230. With
the advent of the back shoulder throw, they can be
productive day one.

I think the league is set up to be productive
more so than ever for rookie wide receivers and
tight ends. This particular class, Kevin White,
Amari Cooper, DeVante Parker are consensus
top-20 picks. However, after that, there's a bunch
of question marks.

Dorial Green-Beckham is as gifted as
anybody in this class, but you better do your
homework off the field. Is he a tight end or a wide
receiver? I'll give you the name of a guy who I
think has first-round talent, the Perryman kid from
Central Florida. Smith from Ohio State, Coates
from Auburn. All of them are going to run 4.35 or
better.

I apologize for the length of the answer,
but I do believe it's going to be highly productive
because, A, there's a bunch of talent, and B, the
rules and the way we play in the NFL today lend
itself.


Q. Can you address the whole kind of
messed up quarterback situation for the
Browns now. Do they do something with 12
and 19 and grab one of those guys? Is
Winston too much of a character with what's
going on with Johnny [Manziel]?

MIKE MAYOCK: Trying to move up and
take one of those quarterbacks is very risky after
they've already made several risky moves. First
round last year, I'll be the first to put my hand up,
and I hope I learn a lesson in that I kind of bought
into Johnny [Manziel] just being immature.

Apparently, there's a lot more than that.

I don't by any means think that he or the
corner they took in the first round careers are over.
Both of them are very talented kids. I hope the
Browns get something out of both of them.

But I think it's difficult to package 12 and
19 and move up four. Whether it's projection on
the field or worries off the field.

If I'm Cleveland, I'm looking at 12 and 19
and saying, Man, I need to get one of the best
wide receivers in this draft. I probably could use a
right tackle at some point. You're going to need a
tight end probably depending on free agency.

At the end of the day I'd like to get two
great football players at 12 and 19, and I'd be very
hesitant about moving up for a quarterback.

As far as Manziel's future is concerned, I
still buy into the quarterback. I still think he can
learn to be a difference maker in this league. But I
think almost all of it is contingent upon whether he
grows up, is able to handle himself, is able to
overcome the problems he has and move forward
with the football.

 
Mayock QB rankings are always malleable. He dropped Bridgewater down from first to a 5th place tie with Zach Mettenburg just before the draft.

I don't think Petty will spend much time at 3.

 
I agree what he did with his QB evaluations last season was totally wack Donnybrook. From my understanding Mayock is mainly respected for being a former player and his defensive back evaluations. But as a talking head for NFL Network he spits out the story he gets fed. So there is a lot of smoke and you have to take all of it with a big grain of salt.

Who do you think are the top 5 QB? I haven't given the QBs a lot of thought yet simply because the Vikings do not need one anymore.

 
MIKE MAYOCK: Trying to move up and
take one of those quarterbacks is very risky after
they've already made several risky moves. First
round last year, I'll be the first to put my hand up,
and I hope I learn a lesson in that I kind of bought
into Johnny [Manziel] just being immature.

Apparently, there's a lot more than that.
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And this guy gets paid how much?

 
Just updated:

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000484234/article/mike-mayocks-2015-nfl-draft-position-rankings-30?campaign=Twitter_cfb_mayock

Mike Mayock's 2015 NFL Draft position rankings 3.0
  • By Mike Mayock
  • NFL Media draft analyst
  • Published: April 8, 2015 at 02:53 p.m
With the pro days nearly complete, Mike Mayock has updated his position-by-position rankings for the 2015 NFL Draft.

Quarterback
1. Marcus Mariota, Oregon
2. Jameis Winston, Florida State
3. Bryce Petty, Baylor
4. Garrett Grayson, Colorado State
5. Brett Hundley, UCLA

Rise: Mariota (2), Grayson (5)
Fall: Winston (1), Hundley (4)

Running back
1. Melvin Gordon, Wisconsin
2. Todd Gurley, Georgia
3. Ameer Abdullah, Nebraska
4. Duke Johnson, Miami (Fla.)
5. Tevin Coleman, Indiana

Wide receiver
1. Kevin White, West Virginia
2. Amari Cooper, Alabama
3. DeVante Parker, Louisville
4. Breshad Perriman, Central Florida
T-5. Dorial Green-Beckham, Missouri
T-5. Nelson Agholor, USC

Rise: Perriman (T-5), Agholor (NR)
Fall: Jaelen Strong, Arizona State (4)

Tight end
1. Maxx Williams, Minnesota
2. Clive Walford, Miami (Fla.)
3. Blake Bell, Oklahoma
4. Nick O'Leary, Florida State
5. Tyler Kroft, Rutgers

Rise: Bell (4), O'Leary (5), Kroft (NR)
Fall: MyCole Pruitt, Southern Illinois (3)

Interior offensive linemen
1. Brandon Scherff, Iowa
2. Cameron Erving, Florida State
3. Laken Tomlinson, Duke
4. A.J. Cann, South Carolina
5. Tre' Jackson, Florida State

Offensive tackle
1. La'el Collins, LSU
2. Ereck Flowers, Miami (Fla.)
3. D.J. Humphries, Florida
4. Andrus Peat, Stanford
T-5. T.J. Clemmings, Pittsburgh
T-5. Cedric Ogbuehi, Texas A&M

Rise: Flowers (4), Humphries (T-5)
Fall: Clemmings (2), Peat (3)

Interior defensive linemen
1. Leonard Williams, USC
2. Arik Armstead, Oregon
3. Malcom Brown, Texas
4. Danny Shelton, Washington
T-5. Eddie Goldman, Florida State
T-5. Jordan Phillips, Oklahoma

Rise: Armstead (4)
Fall: Shelton (2)

Edge rusher
1. Dante Fowler, Jr., Florida
2. Randy Gregory, Nebraska
3. Vic Beasley, Clemson
4. Bud Dupree, Kentucky
5. Shane Ray, Missouri

Rise: Gregory (4), Dupree (5)
Fall: Ray (2)

Linebacker
1. Paul Dawson, TCU
2. Eric Kendricks, UCLA
3. Stephone Anthony, Clemson
4. Denzel Perryman, Miami (Fla.)
5. Benardrick McKinney, Mississippi State

Rise: Perryman (5)
Fall: McKinney (4)

Cornerback
1. Trae Waynes, Michigan State
2. Jalen Collins, LSU
3. Marcus Peters, Washington
4. Kevin Johnson, Wake Forest
T-5. Eric Rowe, Utah
T-5. Byron Jones, Connecticut

Rise: Rowe (NR)
Fall: Williams (T-5)

Safety
1. Landon Collins, Alabama
2. Shaq Thompson, Washington
3. Damarious Randall, Arizona State
4. Quinten Rollins, Miami (Ohio)
5. Alex Carter, Stanford

Rise: Randall (4), Rollins (NR), Carter (NR)
Fall: Derron Smith, Fresno State (3); Jaquiski Tartt, Samford (5)
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Bracie Smathers said:
Just updated:

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000484234/article/mike-mayocks-2015-nfl-draft-position-rankings-30?campaign=Twitter_cfb_mayock

Safety

1. Landon Collins, Alabama

2. Shaq Thompson, Washington

3. Damarious Randall, Arizona State

4. Quinten Rollins, Miami (Ohio)

5. Alex Carter, Stanford

Rise: Randall (4), Rollins (NR), Carter (NR)

Fall: Derron Smith, Fresno State (3); Jaquiski Tartt, Samford (5)
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Interesting that he put a couple of corners that ran slower than expected and turned them into safeties. I been looking at safeties on draft breakdown. It is a such a small sample of games to go on so it is dangerous to say anything definitive. That said the true safeties that I was most impressed with were Cedric Thompson and Ibraheim Campbell. Both are considered 3rd day prospects.

 
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Mike Mayock's 2015 NFL Draft position rankings 4.0

Previous rankings: 1.0 | 2.0 | 3.0
Mike Mayock has updated his position-by-position rankings for the 2015 NFL Draft.

Quarterback

1. Marcus Mariota, Oregon

2. Jameis Winston, Florida State

3. Bryce Petty, Baylor

4. Garrett Grayson, Colorado State

5. Brett Hundley, UCLA

Running back

1. Melvin Gordon, Wisconsin

2. Todd Gurley, Georgia

3. Ameer Abdullah, Nebraska

4. Duke Johnson, Miami (Fla.)

T-5. Tevin Coleman, Indiana

T-5. T.J. Yeldon, Alabama

Rise: Yeldon (NR)

Wide receiver

1. Kevin White, West Virginia

2. Amari Cooper, Alabama

3. DeVante Parker, Louisville

4. Breshad Perriman, Central Florida

T-5. Dorial Green-Beckham, Missouri

T-5. Nelson Agholor, USC

Tight end

1. Maxx Williams, Minnesota

2. Clive Walford, Miami (Fla.)

3. Blake Bell, Oklahoma

4. Tyler Kroft, Rutgers

5. Jeff Heuerman, Ohio State

Rise: Kroft (5), Heuerman (NR)

Fall: Nick O'Leary, Florida State (4)

Interior offensive linemen

1. Brandon Scherff, Iowa

2. Cameron Erving, Florida State

3. Laken Tomlinson, Duke

4. A.J. Cann, South Carolina

5. Tre' Jackson, Florida State

Offensive tackle

1. La'el Collins, LSU

2. Ereck Flowers, Miami (Fla.)

3. D.J. Humphries, Florida

4. Andrus Peat, Stanford

T-5. T.J. Clemmings, Pittsburgh

T-5. Cedric Ogbuehi, Texas A&M


Interior defensive linemen

1. Leonard Williams, USC

2. Arik Armstead, Oregon

3. Malcom Brown, Texas

4. Danny Shelton, Washington

T-5. Eddie Goldman, Florida State

T-5. Jordan Phillips, Oklahoma

Edge rusher

1. Dante Fowler, Jr., Florida

2. Randy Gregory, Nebraska

3. Vic Beasley, Clemson

4. Bud Dupree, Kentucky

5. Shane Ray, Missouri

Linebacker

1. Paul Dawson, TCU

2. Eric Kendricks, UCLA

3. Stephone Anthony, Clemson

4. Denzel Perryman, Miami (Fla.)

5. Benardrick McKinney, Mississippi State


Cornerback

1. Trae Waynes, Michigan State

2. Jalen Collins, LSU

3. Marcus Peters, Washington

4. Kevin Johnson, Wake Forest

T-5. Eric Rowe, Utah

T-5. Byron Jones, Connecticut

Safety

1. Damarious Randall, Arizona State

2. Landon Collins, Alabama

3. Shaq Thompson, Washington

4. Quinten Rollins, Miami (Ohio)

T-5. Alex Carter, Stanford

T-5. Jaquiski Tartt, Samford

Rise: Randall (3), Tartt (NR)

Fall: Collins (1), Thompson (2)
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Safety
1. Damarious Randall, Arizona State
2. Landon Collins, Alabama
3. Shaq Thompson, Washington
4. Quinten Rollins, Miami (Ohio)
T-5. Alex Carter, Stanford
T-5. Jaquiski Tartt, Samford

Rise: Randall (3), Tartt (NR)
Fall: Collins (1), Thompson (2)

It's a passing league. Teams have a higher demand for free safety types rather than strong safeties which explains why Collins is falling. I'm still surprised that he has Shaq as a safety when he refuses to play the position. I suspect that Anthony Harris and James Sample will be late additions to the list. Draftniks really like Sample.

 
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Donnybrook said:
I'm still surprised that he has Shaq as a safety when he refuses to play the position. I suspect that Anthony Harris and James Sample will be late additions to the list. Draftniks really like Sample.
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I'm surprised after Shaq was a little underwhelming in terms of athleticism at the combine people still consider him a S.

I will say I don't think this is as bad a S class as many people were saying at the end of the season, but that may be because there are so many CB's that are being projected at S.

 
BoltBacker said:
Donnybrook said:
I'm still surprised that he has Shaq as a safety when he refuses to play the position. I suspect that Anthony Harris and James Sample will be late additions to the list. Draftniks really like Sample.
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I'm surprised after Shaq was a little underwhelming in terms of athleticism at the combine people still consider him a S.

I will say I don't think this is as bad a S class as many people were saying at the end of the season, but that may be because there are so many CB's that are being projected at S.
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Yeah. His ranking are strange. I don't know how he can project Carter as the #5 safety when he hasn't played the position. Rawlins has such good ball skills I think he succeed almost anywhere on the field except for against outside speed.

If Rowe was considered a pure safety he probably would be the #2. Here is a different take on the position: https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2015/04/16/cff-overview-s-top-of-the-crop/

 
Donnybrook said:
BoltBacker said:
Donnybrook said:
I'm still surprised that he has Shaq as a safety when he refuses to play the position. I suspect that Anthony Harris and James Sample will be late additions to the list. Draftniks really like Sample.
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I'm surprised after Shaq was a little underwhelming in terms of athleticism at the combine people still consider him a S.I will say I don't think this is as bad a S class as many people were saying at the end of the season, but that may be because there are so many CB's that are being projected at S.
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Yeah. His ranking are strange. I don't know how he can project Carter as the #5 safety when he hasn't played the position. Rawlins has such good ball skills I think he succeed almost anywhere on the field except for against outside speed.If Rowe was considered a pure safety he probably would be the #2. Here is a different take on the position: https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2015/04/16/cff-overview-s-top-of-the-crop/
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From that link both Harris and Sample are guys that seem like amazing values where they are being mocked and are exactly the examples I meant when this S class is being judged a bit too harshly. People often say, "TE and S are weak" but TE is a disaster compared to S. Maybe people are basing that opinion based on the first two rounds.

 
flapgreen said:
Why are Mayock's rankings changing? Nothing has happened.
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This is a good question that applies to anyone that does these pre draft rankings

Maybe its to generate clicks/views on their website

Does anyone know how Mayock's final ranking compare to how the players are actually drafted? Is he better at ranking one position over others?

 
I don't understand this 'top 5' mentality many of these pundits use. Any average Joe can pick a credible top 5.

 
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Yenrub said:
flapgreen said:
Why are Mayock's rankings changing? Nothing has happened.
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This is a good question that applies to anyone that does these pre draft rankings
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The stock answer is, "I watched more tape".

Mayock's rankings I take slightly differently than some others. I consider him to have more NFL connections than a lot of analysts. I think his rankings move based on what he's hearing, and are probably a good indication of where players are going to be drafted. He does take a stand here and there, like Mariota over Winston, but I think he moves guys when he hears that Player X is ranked higher or lower than the consensus.

 
massraider said:
Yenrub said:
flapgreen said:
Why are Mayock's rankings changing? Nothing has happened.
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This is a good question that applies to anyone that does these pre draft rankings
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The stock answer is, "I watched more tape".

Mayock's rankings I take slightly differently than some others. I consider him to have more NFL connections than a lot of analysts. I think his rankings move based on what he's hearing, and are probably a good indication of where players are going to be drafted. He does take a stand here and there, like Mariota over Winston, but I think he moves guys when he hears that Player X is ranked higher or lower than the consensus.
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And this is where he loses almost all credibility to me.

Did he really unearth a hidden Zapruder film that convinced him, oh yeah.... look what I discovered!? Or is it clearly a move to drive traffic and generate buzz about him and his rankings?

The late Tartt move to follow the rest of the draft community raises the question if these are even rankings at all or simply reflect the predraft rumors he is hearing. Most of these guys turn up their nose at having to do a mock as if it was beneath them. But shouldn't the rankings be who he ranks and a mock be who he is guessing based on what he is hearing? I don't even dislike Mayock but I do dislike these practices no matter who it is.

That's why I thought your other thread actually tracking these guys was so interesting.

 
Dragon1952 said:
I don't understand this 'top 5' mentality many of these pundits use. Any average Joe can pick a credible top 5.
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Especially if it's going to be a soft 5 full of ties. Just make it a hard 10 if this is going to be your year round job and it's not like these guys should be cramming for finals watching game tape from 2014, and earlier. This should be the time of year they are publishing, doing radio, podcasts, tv, etc pushing whatever their content is.

 
BoltBacker said:
massraider said:
Yenrub said:
flapgreen said:
Why are Mayock's rankings changing? Nothing has happened.
Click to expand...
This is a good question that applies to anyone that does these pre draft rankings
Click to expand...
The stock answer is, "I watched more tape".

Mayock's rankings I take slightly differently than some others. I consider him to have more NFL connections than a lot of analysts. I think his rankings move based on what he's hearing, and are probably a good indication of where players are going to be drafted. He does take a stand here and there, like Mariota over Winston, but I think he moves guys when he hears that Player X is ranked higher or lower than the consensus.
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And this is where he loses almost all credibility to me.

Did he really unearth a hidden Zapruder film that convinced him, oh yeah.... look what I discovered!? Or is it clearly a move to drive traffic and generate buzz about him and his rankings?

The late Tartt move to follow the rest of the draft community raises the question if these are even rankings at all or simply reflect the predraft rumors he is hearing. Most of these guys turn up their nose at having to do a mock as if it was beneath them. But shouldn't the rankings be who he ranks and a mock be who he is guessing based on what he is hearing? I don't even dislike Mayock but I do dislike these practices no matter who it is.

That's why I thought your other thread actually tracking these guys was so interesting.
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That thread will be a lot more interesting in a year. Still gotta do safeties.

 
massraider said:
BoltBacker said:
massraider said:
Yenrub said:
flapgreen said:
Why are Mayock's rankings changing? Nothing has happened.
Click to expand...
This is a good question that applies to anyone that does these pre draft rankings
Click to expand...
The stock answer is, "I watched more tape".

Mayock's rankings I take slightly differently than some others. I consider him to have more NFL connections than a lot of analysts. I think his rankings move based on what he's hearing, and are probably a good indication of where players are going to be drafted. He does take a stand here and there, like Mariota over Winston, but I think he moves guys when he hears that Player X is ranked higher or lower than the consensus.
Click to expand...
And this is where he loses almost all credibility to me.Did he really unearth a hidden Zapruder film that convinced him, oh yeah.... look what I discovered!? Or is it clearly a move to drive traffic and generate buzz about him and his rankings?

The late Tartt move to follow the rest of the draft community raises the question if these are even rankings at all or simply reflect the predraft rumors he is hearing. Most of these guys turn up their nose at having to do a mock as if it was beneath them. But shouldn't the rankings be who he ranks and a mock be who he is guessing based on what he is hearing? I don't even dislike Mayock but I do dislike these practices no matter who it is.

That's why I thought your other thread actually tracking these guys was so interesting.
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That thread will be a lot more interesting in a year. Still gotta do safeties.
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That is gonna be tough because so many S's are another mans CB this year.

 
massraider said:
Yenrub said:
flapgreen said:
Why are Mayock's rankings changing? Nothing has happened.
Click to expand...
This is a good question that applies to anyone that does these pre draft rankings
Click to expand...
The stock answer is, "I watched more tape".

Mayock's rankings I take slightly differently than some others. I consider him to have more NFL connections than a lot of analysts. I think his rankings move based on what he's hearing, and are probably a good indication of where players are going to be drafted. He does take a stand here and there, like Mariota over Winston, but I think he moves guys when he hears that Player X is ranked higher or lower than the consensus.
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Yep.And there shouldn't be any watch more tape examples with major schools. If you're just catching up to guys from Florida State, Oregon, and USC in April - 2 being the top QB's - then why should Ibelieve you have watched sufficient tape on tackles, safeties, and interior linemen from...well, anywhere.

 
I wish these guys would do both a set of rankings and their own mock. This way they retain credibility. As it is, it's about worth toilet paper.

 
I really couldn't care less about mocks. They don't tell me anything. They are popular for the casual fan. Nothing wrong with that at all, but the best mockers wind up with 7 or 8 correct. Why a I gonna follow along with an exercise in futility?

 
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