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I really thought the matchups yesterday were ripe for a big outing. 3 catches for 38 yds = disappointment

I know it's early but it looks like Hill likes to spread the wealth. Morgan is my #5 WR behind Holt as my #4 WR

so maybe I hold on but I think SF will be a team this year that wins/loses with 17-20 points every week.

 
I still think he'll have a decent season but that won't stop me from cutting him for guys that I think have better matchups.

At this point I'd rather grab whoever is starting for Indy while Gonzo II is injured.

 
TommyGilmore said:
I still think he'll have a decent season but that won't stop me from cutting him for guys that I think have better matchups.At this point I'd rather grab whoever is starting for Indy while Gonzo II is injured.
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i watched the game. morgan was open quite a bit. hill didnt look for him on many plays. hill sucks. dont give up on morgan.
 
Josh Morgan has replaced Isaac Bruce as the one 49ers receiver who stays in the game during obvious running situations.

Source: Santa Rosa Press Democrat

sit tight, it was one week

 
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SuperGreen said:
Josh Morgan has replaced Isaac Bruce as the one 49ers receiver who stays in the game during obvious running situations.

Source: Santa Rosa Press Democrat

sit tight, it was one week
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If its an obvious running situation, does it matter which WR is on the field (he won't get it anyway)? I am considering dumping him for Lance Moore who was made available this week in my league. I guess the Moore owner panicked when he saw that he was targetted less than the other WRs last week for NO. I guess I'd still prefer to have a WR3 on a prolific passing attack with a great QB (Moore) over a WR1 on a running team with a mediocre QB (Morgan).

 
Definitely too quick. If Bryant McFadden doesnt throw up his arm in desperation after Morgan got behind him in the end zone, Morgan has something more like 4/60/1, and everyone is happy. He looked strong, athletic, fluid, and he displayed good hands and RAC ability. No way you should cut him.

 
Sigmund Bloom said:
Definitely too quick. If Bryant McFadden doesnt throw up his arm in desperation after Morgan got behind him in the end zone, Morgan has something more like 4/60/1, and everyone is happy. He looked strong, athletic, fluid, and he displayed good hands and RAC ability. No way you should cut him.
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Morgan or Chris Henry?
 
Giant Wooden Badger said:
Sigmund Bloom said:
Definitely too quick. If Bryant McFadden doesnt throw up his arm in desperation after Morgan got behind him in the end zone, Morgan has something more like 4/60/1, and everyone is happy. He looked strong, athletic, fluid, and he displayed good hands and RAC ability. No way you should cut him.
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Morgan or Chris Henry?
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Morgan. Henry may end up pushing Coles to the bench soon, and be the more productive WR later in the year, especially week 11 on when all the BAL/PIT matchups are done, but I expect Morgan to be a solid WR3/4 with occasional outbursts all year.
 
3nOut said:
SuperGreen said:
Josh Morgan has replaced Isaac Bruce as the one 49ers receiver who stays in the game during obvious running situations.

Source: Santa Rosa Press Democrat

sit tight, it was one week
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If its an obvious running situation, does it matter which WR is on the field (he won't get it anyway)?
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point is, he never leaves the field and is the #1 WR there. plus there's these things called audibles. more snaps = more chance to produce.
 
Sigmund Bloom said:
Definitely too quick. If Bryant McFadden doesnt throw up his arm in desperation after Morgan got behind him in the end zone, Morgan has something more like 4/60/1, and everyone is happy. He looked strong, athletic, fluid, and he displayed good hands and RAC ability. No way you should cut him.
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If my grandmother had a penis, she'd be a man baby!!! :thumbup: NOT!
 
Too quick?

How does it get any quicker?

What was the point of selecting him to be on your team if the hook time is 1 game? Against a team that has 2 pretty decent cover corners as well.

 
I think if there is something enticing out there, go get it.

I am a fan of Morgan, but I just dropped him in a keep 3 league. Here are my reasons:

1) Frank Gore - This team is run through the ground. The coaches speak it and they practice what they preach.

2) Shaun Hill - Hill is an above-average gameclock manager and he can hit the open guy when needed, but he does not have a strong arm and his dowfield accuracy is well below average. The offense isnt designed for big plays, which is exactly what Morgan is in this offense....Deep threat

3) SF's ever improving Defense. SF is going to keep the game close and shorten it by way of the run. They will move the ball slowly which will keep the Def fresh. If they are in a lot of slugfest's, dont expect them to be down by such large margins as last year. Being in closer games will make it unnecassary for them to try to force the ball deep downfield often

4) Isaac Bruce is still the most targeted player on the team. Rumors of his demise have been overstated. He still has it.

5) Vernon Davis. Like him or not, he is a valuable weapon. Singletary loves this kid and he proved it last year with the tough love. I sincerely believe that Singletary is taking this kid under his wing and if he hadn't seen improvements then Davis wouldnt be getting targets. Davis and Morgan will probably have similiar target numbers by years end.

6) SF isnt very good in the redzone with Pass attempt completions. Again, they are a running team at the goal line and if for some reason they throw it, you are going to see slants like the one to gore or little dink and dunks to Bruce or the TE. I may be wrong, but I dont think Hill has the touch to loft it into the back of the endzone to the big target Morgan.

 
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If you are dropping him make sure it for someone with a better situation.

I wouldnt say he is undroppable at this point but its still to early imo.

But right now the WW has some inticing guys sitting on them in a few leagues.

 
I think the question is for what? In our league, I've got the following players available on the waiver wire that I'm willing to drop him for: Burleson, Mark Clayton, Carlson, Cooley (no TE position in our league). I'll drop him in a heart beat for any of these guys...better QB play for the seahawks and Clayton, and a sweetheart sched for Cooley.

If I miss on those guys, the next set of free agents are Zach Miller, Bruce, Mike Clayton, and Laurent Robinson. I'll lean towards dropping him for Miller and Robinson, as they have alot of developmental upside and have already produced, and probably will keep him over Bruce or Mike Clayton, as I think I know where they are going to be at the end of the year.

 
Josh Morgan. FBG loves him. I can't understand why. He's led his team in targets twice I think, maybe three times. He's not productive. He plays on a crap team. He's had injury problems. His quarterback wouldn't start for 20+ teams.

Seriously, can somebody explain to me why this guy is "the chosen one" around here. I realize everybody wants to "scoop" a player, but this guy has "neverwas" written all over him.

 
Sabertooth said:
Seriously, can somebody explain to me why this guy is "the chosen one" around here. I realize everybody wants to "scoop" a player, but this guy has "neverwas" written all over him.
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Simply put, just watch him play. He looks like a #1 WR in the making, even if he's on an offensively limited team.
 
I'm a Niners homer here.

In redrafts, if there are other options available I wouldn't hesitate to drop him.

 
Love him in dynasties, but see him as no better then a bye week flex play in redrafts for now. Shallower leagues may have better options on the WW, but deeper leagues shouldn't.

 
footballdiva said:
Would you drop him if Justin Gage was available? :D
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YesWith that said, there were other strong notable WR's that didn't have great week 1 performances. I'm by no means saying he's this kind of talent or with the same QB's tossing to him, but the point is, one week does not make my mind up.Andre Johnson: 4 Rec 35 YdsRoddy White: 5 Rec 42 YdsSteve Smith: 3 Rec 21 YdsAnquan Boldin: 2 Rec 19 Yds
 
Numbers don't tell the whole story. Watched the whole game and Morgan looked solid. Camera showed two different times where Morgan was wide open and Hill didn't see him. Keep in mind that the Cards pass rush got immense pressure on Hill and he didn't have a lot of time to throw. Calais Campbell was a beast.Here's an excerpt from the FBGs recap on Morgan in week 1:

Morgan looked ready to be this team's #1 WR even though his numbers didn't show it. He had a nice leaping catch at the sidelines, and he also showed great run after catch skills, breaking a tackle on another reception. Morgan would have had a TD on a nicely thrown ball by Hill in the red zone, but Bryant McFadden made a desperation breakup with his back to the ball in the air. Bigger numbers are likely to come for Morgan.
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SammyJankis said:
Numbers don't tell the whole story. Watched the whole game and Morgan looked solid. Camera showed two different times where Morgan was wide open and Hill didn't see him. Keep in mind that the Cards pass rush got immense pressure on Hill and he didn't have a lot of time to throw. Calais Campbell was a beast.Here's an excerpt from the FBGs recap on Morgan in week 1:

Morgan looked ready to be this team's #1 WR even though his numbers didn't show it. He had a nice leaping catch at the sidelines, and he also showed great run after catch skills, breaking a tackle on another reception. Morgan would have had a TD on a nicely thrown ball by Hill in the red zone, but Bryant McFadden made a desperation breakup with his back to the ball in the air. Bigger numbers are likely to come for Morgan.
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I watched the whole. Morgan did not look solid. He was nonexistent. Two nice plays doesn't do anyone justice. A lot of different players around the league had a couple of nice plays. It doesn't mean anything. If your expecting bigger numbers from Week 1 then go ahead and double his output from week 1. This is about as good as its gonna get this year. With an occasional TD thrown in. Sorry.
 
Defending Champs said:
footballdiva said:
Would you drop him if Justin Gage was available? :popcorn:
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YesWith that said, there were other strong notable WR's that didn't have great week 1 performances. I'm by no means saying he's this kind of talent or with the same QB's tossing to him, but the point is, one week does not make my mind up.Andre Johnson: 4 Rec 35 YdsRoddy White: 5 Rec 42 YdsSteve Smith: 3 Rec 21 YdsAnquan Boldin: 2 Rec 19 Yds
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If you arent comparing Morgan to these guys then why did you bring them up? Nobody is questioning these players quiet Week 1's because we all know what they are individually capable of on any given week. Morgan has NEVER proven anything ad that's why people have a legitimate concern to question him as early as Week 1.
 
thehornet said:
SammyJankis said:
Numbers don't tell the whole story. Watched the whole game and Morgan looked solid. Camera showed two different times where Morgan was wide open and Hill didn't see him. Keep in mind that the Cards pass rush got immense pressure on Hill and he didn't have a lot of time to throw. Calais Campbell was a beast.Here's an excerpt from the FBGs recap on Morgan in week 1:

Morgan looked ready to be this team's #1 WR even though his numbers didn't show it. He had a nice leaping catch at the sidelines, and he also showed great run after catch skills, breaking a tackle on another reception. Morgan would have had a TD on a nicely thrown ball by Hill in the red zone, but Bryant McFadden made a desperation breakup with his back to the ball in the air. Bigger numbers are likely to come for Morgan.
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I watched the whole. Morgan did not look solid. He was nonexistent. Two nice plays doesn't do anyone justice. A lot of different players around the league had a couple of nice plays. It doesn't mean anything. If your expecting bigger numbers from Week 1 then go ahead and double his output from week 1. This is about as good as its gonna get this year. With an occasional TD thrown in. Sorry.
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You do realize that this is only his second year in the league right? He's now started exactly two games. I am willing to let him develop a bit yet.
 
thehornet said:
Defending Champs said:
footballdiva said:
Would you drop him if Justin Gage was available? :confused:
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YesWith that said, there were other strong notable WR's that didn't have great week 1 performances. I'm by no means saying he's this kind of talent or with the same QB's tossing to him, but the point is, one week does not make my mind up.Andre Johnson: 4 Rec 35 YdsRoddy White: 5 Rec 42 YdsSteve Smith: 3 Rec 21 YdsAnquan Boldin: 2 Rec 19 Yds
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If you arent comparing Morgan to these guys then why did you bring them up? Nobody is questioning these players quiet Week 1's because we all know what they are individually capable of on any given week. Morgan has NEVER proven anything ad that's why people have a legitimate concern to question him as early as Week 1.
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Just trying to say that anyone can have a bad week, that's all. Look, Morgan is currently not a WR1 on any FF roster I hope, he should be a fill in guy and maybe turn into a WR3 at some point, I'm just pointing out he may have had a bad week due to circumstances similar to these other guys.
 
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Kitrick Taylor said:
thehornet said:
SammyJankis said:
Numbers don't tell the whole story. Watched the whole game and Morgan looked solid. Camera showed two different times where Morgan was wide open and Hill didn't see him. Keep in mind that the Cards pass rush got immense pressure on Hill and he didn't have a lot of time to throw. Calais Campbell was a beast.Here's an excerpt from the FBGs recap on Morgan in week 1:

Morgan looked ready to be this team's #1 WR even though his numbers didn't show it. He had a nice leaping catch at the sidelines, and he also showed great run after catch skills, breaking a tackle on another reception. Morgan would have had a TD on a nicely thrown ball by Hill in the red zone, but Bryant McFadden made a desperation breakup with his back to the ball in the air. Bigger numbers are likely to come for Morgan.
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I watched the whole. Morgan did not look solid. He was nonexistent. Two nice plays doesn't do anyone justice. A lot of different players around the league had a couple of nice plays. It doesn't mean anything. If your expecting bigger numbers from Week 1 then go ahead and double his output from week 1. This is about as good as its gonna get this year. With an occasional TD thrown in. Sorry.
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You do realize that this is only his second year in the league right? He's now started exactly two games. I am willing to let him develop a bit yet.
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I do understand this is only his second year, but I am tired of hearing glowing reviews about this guy based on a couple good plays in preseason and a couple of nice catches during catch up time last year. I drafted this guy as a sleeper LAST year and this year and I am finally thinking that he just isnt all that special. The massive hyp is driven up only around the fbg forums. At the end of the day, i am just thinking that there might be better options on your WW. And yes, I am taking into account the team he plays for, QB play, run first offense, etc.
 
Defending Champs said:
thehornet said:
Defending Champs said:
footballdiva said:
Would you drop him if Justin Gage was available? :clap:
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YesWith that said, there were other strong notable WR's that didn't have great week 1 performances. I'm by no means saying he's this kind of talent or with the same QB's tossing to him, but the point is, one week does not make my mind up.Andre Johnson: 4 Rec 35 YdsRoddy White: 5 Rec 42 YdsSteve Smith: 3 Rec 21 YdsAnquan Boldin: 2 Rec 19 Yds
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If you arent comparing Morgan to these guys then why did you bring them up? Nobody is questioning these players quiet Week 1's because we all know what they are individually capable of on any given week. Morgan has NEVER proven anything ad that's why people have a legitimate concern to question him as early as Week 1.
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Just trying to say that anyone can have a bad week, that's all. Look, Morgan is currently not a WR1 on any FF roster I hope, he should be a fill in guy and maybe turn into a WR3 at some point, I'm just pointing out he may have had a bad week due to circumstances similar to these other guys.
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Gotcha. But the circumstances in SF arent going to change. At lesat those other guys we know are a MAJOR par of the offense. Morgan never was, isn't currently and from the looks of things in Week 1, doesnt appear to be in the future either.
 
I just don't see what has changed in 1 week that would make anyone drop Morgan for a player they obviously preferred less on draft day.

For me, it's way to early to second guess myself.

 
I cut Morgan for Cadillac Williams in the preseason after I compared Cadillac's highlights before the injury to afterward.... Cecil and Sigmund gave me all the information I needed to make this move, but came to the conclusion that I disagreed with (they said to keep Morgan over picking up Cadillac... but then gave some background on Morgan that confirmed it for me to drop him)

I also kept Henry over Morgan for my bench WR (WR3)... time will tell if I made the right decision... I won't be needing to use another WR soon (barring injury) since I am strong at RB to cover my flex

 
treat88 said:
I just don't see what has changed in 1 week that would make anyone drop Morgan for a player they obviously preferred less on draft day.

For me, it's way to early to second guess myself.
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What has changed is someone you didn't see initially having a big game. If that player does it again in week 2, the chances of you getting him are slim. It's not so much about second guessing yourself as it is missing a train. And it's not like Morgan is some top pick you're bailing on...
 
Morgan is sitting on my waiver wire. I'm thinking of grabbing him, and dropping Meachem or Manningham for him. What you guys think. Morgan is probably a 1b on a bad team, while Meachem is on a high octane team even he's like only the 3rd or 4th WR there, and Manningham looked damn good last week. #2 now and maybe the Giants #1 by the end of the year.

Thoughts?

Nitty

 
My eyes tell me J. Morgan is a prototype with good all-around skills. I saw him tenaciously run-blocking too, which surely gives Singletary a chubby.

Shaun Hill can get it done. Morgan is the best 49ers WR to own imo.

 
Nitty Ninjas said:
Morgan is sitting on my waiver wire. I'm thinking of grabbing him, and dropping Meachem or Manningham for him. What you guys think. Morgan is probably a 1b on a bad team, while Meachem is on a high octane team even he's like only the 3rd or 4th WR there, and Manningham looked damn good last week. #2 now and maybe the Giants #1 by the end of the year.Thoughts?
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At this point I'd rather have Meachem because there's no telling if he or Henderson ends up as the #2 WR for New Orleans. If Meachem becomes Brees' 2nd-favorite target then he's easily a top-20 WR.Manningham is a WR3 on a run-first offense. I don't expect him to be a significant fantasy producer. I'd drop him for Morgan in a heartbeat.
 
If you just watch his athleticism, you can tell he has the hands and ability of WR1. But because of his QB, offense, and inexperience, it'll take time before he's worthy of a start. He reminds me a lot of Braylon Edwards but with better hands....way better hands. Stud WR's are all about targets, they'll go up as he becomes a better route runner. No one is expecting you him to crack your starting WR line up every week, but he definitely has potential.

 
One more thing to add, he has great work ethic, that's the reason why I'm contempt with the Niners not signing Crabtree.

 
Sigmund Bloom said:
Giant Wooden Badger said:
Sigmund Bloom said:
Definitely too quick. If Bryant McFadden doesnt throw up his arm in desperation after Morgan got behind him in the end zone, Morgan has something more like 4/60/1, and everyone is happy. He looked strong, athletic, fluid, and he displayed good hands and RAC ability. No way you should cut him.
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Morgan or Chris Henry?
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Morgan. Henry may end up pushing Coles to the bench soon, and be the more productive WR later in the year, especially week 11 on when all the BAL/PIT matchups are done, but I expect Morgan to be a solid WR3/4 with occasional outbursts all year.
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Do you expect weeks like these too? Im not trying to be comabative, but I laid out my reasons that it would be OK to drop this guy, mainly in redraft. All the talent doesnt mean squat if you never get the ball.Drop Morgan Keep Henry. Its a no brainer.
 
Didn't see SF v SEA today, anyone know why amassed the dreaded triple zero in week 2? Not targeted? Injured? Plain old suckville?

 
toxic said:
Didn't see SF v SEA today, anyone know why amassed the dreaded triple zero in week 2? Not targeted? Injured? Plain old suckville?
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spent all day blocking for gore?Frank Gore destroyed the Seahawks for 207 yards and two touchdowns on 16 carries, and five catches for 39 yards, as the 49ers moved to 2-0 on the season with a Week 2 win over Seattle.
 
I have him a ton of dynasty leagues with deep rosters...so he is a hold....but in a redraft...drop ASAP.

 
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