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I'm more likely to have Brady Quinn on my teams then Anderson. (1 Viewer)

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BigSteelThrill

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Looking at the QB list (mine and others) and Ive come to the realization that from where they will be drafted... I am far more likely to have Brady Quinn sitting on my redraft team(s) then Derek Anderson. And certainly if I pull the trigger on Anderson, for various reasons, I will be snagging Quinn extra early.

I see most all the rankings have Anderson in the top 20, and usually from 10-18.

At this point in mid June, I could still see Quinn performing much better in the preseason.

Plenty of people remain quite high on Anderson and his fantasy prospects. I just dont happen to be one of them. Am I alone here?

Here is the Anderson spotlight.

 
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BigSteelThrill said:
Looking at the QB list (mine and others) and Ive come to the realization that from where they will be drafted... I am far more likely to have Brady Quinn sitting on my redraft team(s) then Derek Anderson. And certainly if I pull the trigger on Anderson, for various reasons, I will be snagging Quinn extra early.

I see most all the rankings have Anderson in the top 20, and usually from 10-18.

At this point in mid June, I could still see Quinn performing much better in the preseason.

Plenty of people remain quite high on Anderson and his fantasy prospects. I just dont happen to be one of them. Am I alone here?

Here is the Anderson spotlight.
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It looks like we are talking redraft here.If this is the case, the Anderson is the obvious answer.

There is no way anyone should have Quinn ahead of Anderson

in any redraft league.

Anderson was a top 10 overall FF scorer in most leagues last season.

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Ron_Mexico said:
BigSteelThrill said:
Looking at the QB list (mine and others) and Ive come to the realization that from where they will be drafted... I am far more likely to have Brady Quinn sitting on my redraft team(s) then Derek Anderson. And certainly if I pull the trigger on Anderson, for various reasons, I will be snagging Quinn extra early.

I see most all the rankings have Anderson in the top 20, and usually from 10-18.

At this point in mid June, I could still see Quinn performing much better in the preseason.

Plenty of people remain quite high on Anderson and his fantasy prospects. I just dont happen to be one of them. Am I alone here?

Here is the Anderson spotlight.
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It looks like we are talking redraft here.If this is the case, the Anderson is the obvious answer.

There is no way anyone should have Quinn ahead of Anderson

in any redraft league.

Anderson was a top 10 overall FF scorer in most leagues last season.

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Ron_Mexico said:
BigSteelThrill said:
Looking at the QB list (mine and others) and Ive come to the realization that from where they will be drafted... I am far more likely to have Brady Quinn sitting on my redraft team(s) then Derek Anderson. And certainly if I pull the trigger on Anderson, for various reasons, I will be snagging Quinn extra early.

I see most all the rankings have Anderson in the top 20, and usually from 10-18.

At this point in mid June, I could still see Quinn performing much better in the preseason.

Plenty of people remain quite high on Anderson and his fantasy prospects. I just dont happen to be one of them. Am I alone here?

Here is the Anderson spotlight.
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It looks like we are talking redraft here.If this is the case, the Anderson is the obvious answer.

There is no way anyone should have Quinn ahead of Anderson

in any redraft league.

Anderson was a top 10 overall FF scorer in most leagues last season.

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I don't think the OP was saying he'd draft Quinn over Anderson; he was saying Anderson's ADP makes him overrated and Quinn's ADP makes him underrated. I don't think anyone has Quinn rated higher than Anderson in redraft leagues.
 
Dirty Weasel said:
Ron_Mexico said:
BigSteelThrill said:
Looking at the QB list (mine and others) and Ive come to the realization that from where they will be drafted... I am far more likely to have Brady Quinn sitting on my redraft team(s) then Derek Anderson. And certainly if I pull the trigger on Anderson, for various reasons, I will be snagging Quinn extra early.

I see most all the rankings have Anderson in the top 20, and usually from 10-18.

At this point in mid June, I could still see Quinn performing much better in the preseason.

Plenty of people remain quite high on Anderson and his fantasy prospects. I just dont happen to be one of them. Am I alone here?

Here is the Anderson spotlight.
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It looks like we are talking redraft here.If this is the case, the Anderson is the obvious answer.

There is no way anyone should have Quinn ahead of Anderson

in any redraft league.

Anderson was a top 10 overall FF scorer in most leagues last season.

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I don't think the OP was saying he'd draft Quinn over Anderson; he was saying Anderson's ADP makes him overrated and Quinn's ADP makes him underrated. I don't think anyone has Quinn rated higher than Anderson in redraft leagues.
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:thumbup: Thank you for reading.

 
I think the OP is talking in relation totheir adp. In this case Anderson is the no 9 qb in FGB rankings and Quinn no 39. If I have Anderson ranked at say no 20 and Quinn at 30 then the chances of Anderson dropping to where I felt he would be good value would be slim and I would likely be taking Quinn ahead of other people, hence I would be more likely to have Quinn on my team than Anderson. Thats the way I understand it, if so it doesn't surprise me. I was a little worried by Andersons 2nd half of the season and if he struggles for an extended period the Browns might start to get impatient and look for some return on their investment in Quinn, maybe if Quinn wasn't waiting there in the wings I'd feel better about Anderson.

 
BigSteelThrill said:
Dirty Weasel said:
Ron_Mexico said:
BigSteelThrill said:
Looking at the QB list (mine and others) and Ive come to the realization that from where they will be drafted... I am far more likely to have Brady Quinn sitting on my redraft team(s) then Derek Anderson. And certainly if I pull the trigger on Anderson, for various reasons, I will be snagging Quinn extra early.

I see most all the rankings have Anderson in the top 20, and usually from 10-18.

At this point in mid June, I could still see Quinn performing much better in the preseason.

Plenty of people remain quite high on Anderson and his fantasy prospects. I just dont happen to be one of them. Am I alone here?

Here is the Anderson spotlight.
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It looks like we are talking redraft here.If this is the case, the Anderson is the obvious answer.

There is no way anyone should have Quinn ahead of Anderson

in any redraft league.

Anderson was a top 10 overall FF scorer in most leagues last season.

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I don't think the OP was saying he'd draft Quinn over Anderson; he was saying Anderson's ADP makes him overrated and Quinn's ADP makes him underrated. I don't think anyone has Quinn rated higher than Anderson in redraft leagues.
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;) Thank you for reading.
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Sorry for the mis-interpretation of the question.It's a difficult question to answer without knowing

exactly where either player is being picked.

Having said that, I would not chase Quinn with anything

but a lower round pick in a redraft league if you are looking for a QB cuff.

I don't think anyone else will be willing to spend a mid round pick on Quinn in a redraft.

I hope this response is a bit more helpful.

 
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Chase Stuart said:
BigSteelThrill said:
Chase Stuart said:
I'm more likely to have Chestor Taylor on my teams than Adrian Peterson.
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If you actually have the chance to select ADP... you still stand by this?
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Sure, why not? In an auction, I think Taylor would be better value than Peterson, just like you think in an auction Quinn would be better value than Anderson.
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Im not talking about auctions. If I was, it would be stated in the post and title.

 
BigSteelThrill said:
Chase Stuart said:
BigSteelThrill said:
Chase Stuart said:
I'm more likely to have Chestor Taylor on my teams than Adrian Peterson.
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If you actually have the chance to select ADP... you still stand by this?
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Sure, why not?
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Thats for you to answer.You have the #3 pick in five drafts and Adrian is there in each one. So you hit is average draft position... and you are more likely to have Taylor.

I don't believe it. Nice hijack though.
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Peterson's going no later than 2 in most drafts, I think. If not now, he will be soon.The point is, Taylor's probably better value than Peterson in most leagues -- or maybe more specifically, in most auctions. I agree with you that Quinn's probably a better value than Anderson in most drafts/auctions, too.

But neither of those pieces of information are very valuable.

But regardless, in most drafts, I'm more likely to end up with Taylor than Peterson.

 
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I'm on the same page as the OP. Anderson is likely to go higher than where I would be willing to draft him. I can easily see Quinn lasting until the final couple of rounds of most redrafts, much like Romo a couple years ago.

In leagues with good sized rosters, picking up Quinn in the last 2 rounds could end up paying huge dividends. If he becomes the starter he has low QB1 potential (just like Anderson), imo. It's a low risk/high reward move.

 
Chase Stuart said:
BigSteelThrill said:
Chase Stuart said:
BigSteelThrill said:
Chase Stuart said:
I'm more likely to have Chestor Taylor on my teams than Adrian Peterson.
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If you actually have the chance to select ADP... you still stand by this?
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Sure, why not?
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Thats for you to answer.You have the #3 pick in five drafts and Adrian is there in each one. So you hit is average draft position... and you are more likely to have Taylor.

I don't believe it. Nice hijack though.
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I agree with you that Quinn's probably a better value than Anderson in most drafts/auctions, too.
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You just like being cryptic. :shrug:
 
thelimey said:
I think the OP is talking in relation totheir adp. In this case Anderson is the no 9 qb in FGB rankings and Quinn no 39. If I have Anderson ranked at say no 20 and Quinn at 30 then the chances of Anderson dropping to where I felt he would be good value would be slim and I would likely be taking Quinn ahead of other people, hence I would be more likely to have Quinn on my team than Anderson. Thats the way I understand it, if so it doesn't surprise me. I was a little worried by Andersons 2nd half of the season and if he struggles for an extended period the Browns might start to get impatient and look for some return on their investment in Quinn, maybe if Quinn wasn't waiting there in the wings I'd feel better about Anderson.
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The OP is FOS if he thinks DA's ADP will make him OVER-rated. Does anyone actually think DA is going to be OVER-valued with his ADP?If anything he'll be vastly UNDER-valued in all leagues.Quinn isn't getting any reps with the first string. The front office has kept a solid line that DA is the starter, end of story, complete nippish in the buddish before anything could possibly start. If you want real Brady Quinn value don't look for a bargain in the draft. Sharks should target BQ after DA has securely squared away the starting gig and wait for an opening during the season. Don't allow preseason games against second/third/fourth stringers with BQ completing passes to second/third/fourth stringers to over-inflate his value. He's not going to start unless their is an injury. DA only missed a portion of one-quarter last year. A part of one-quarter in fifteen starts. BQ never saw the field for one play other than a part of one-quarter. So for those speculating on injury you have that going for ya.
 
If I do not have Anderson, I do not think I am going to waste a roster spot on Quinn unless we have VERY DEEP benches.......so my answer is no........

 
Well, if I draft DA I will be trying to handcuff Quinn to him.

If I don't draft DA I still may take a flier on Quinn late, just in case, I prefer replaceable high upside players on my bench.

So, yes, it is more likely that Quinn will be on my team over DA, but to have Quinn ranked over DA in any format that does not reward clipboard holding as points would be foolish.

 
I have Quinn ranked over Anderson in dynasty, easy. Not even close. Redraft? I wouldn't take Quinn before Anderson, but you can bet your sweet bippy if I drafted Anderson, I'd get Quinn before somebody else does.

 
:goodposting: I'm in with the OP.

I wouldn't touch Anderson until real late in dynasty -- way past when he'd probably be taken. I'd love to scoop up Quinn, however. I think most people who watched Cleveland a good amount would agree here. Not that big of a call.

 
Football Jones said:
I have Quinn ranked over Anderson in dynasty, easy. Not even close. Redraft? I wouldn't take Quinn before Anderson, but you can bet your sweet bippy if I drafted Anderson, I'd get Quinn before somebody else does.
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this is a good reason to stay away all together as far as I am concerned.......not sure what the ADP is for Anderson.....but I think I would rather take a more solidified starter a round or so ealrier and then follow it up much later in the draft with another starter....if you take both Anderson and Quinn, you will be taking Quinn when his value is very low since other owners are also going to pass on him (since you have Anderson) and you will have to take him earliar then you should because you not sure when another owner WILL pull the trigger on him....and then you still need another QB probably at least for bye week coverage....which for the Browns is kinda early at week 5 so you may not be able to just scoop off the WW...I would rather get a higher ranked starter, a lower ranked starter, and then if I had to, pick up my first starter's backup........
 
Chase Stuart said:
BigSteelThrill said:
Chase Stuart said:
I'm more likely to have Chestor Taylor on my teams than Adrian Peterson.
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If you actually have the chance to select ADP... you still stand by this?
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Sure, why not? In an auction, I think Taylor would be better value than Peterson, just like you think in an auction Quinn would be better value than Anderson.
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What's sad is I feel the same way, I like Taylor's value in an auction league compared to ADP.
 
Football Jones said:
I have Quinn ranked over Anderson in dynasty, easy. Not even close. Redraft? I wouldn't take Quinn before Anderson, but you can bet your sweet bippy if I drafted Anderson, I'd get Quinn before somebody else does.
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In any redraft league I am in Brady Quinn won't even be drafted. I'm in mainly 12 to 14 team leagues, right around 18 rounds.
 
mozzy84 said:
if anderson is the starter going in quinn shouldn't even be drafted in a redraft league imo...
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FTR: My post is how I feel today... looking forward to the late August draft dates.When I consider Anderson - I cant help but think that Quinn will make a lot of noise between now and then.And then the regular season is another hurdle in the consideration of taking Anderson as the #12 (or so) QB off the board.
 
WOW, people are really that down on Anderson...the guy was a stud from the second he stepped on the field last year and has tons of talent to get the ball too...man I sure hope the others on my leagues feel the same way as you guys...

Anderson is the #6 QB on my board, dynasty or redraft...

 
heres the deal on DA. he's a great drop back passer when he gets time (duh!). take away his protection he's done. he's not mobile. if that line stays intact, no reason for quinn to take over. an injury to the o-line could change things.

 
This post makes no sense. We're talking redraft. If you aren't likely to draft Anderson in redraft, why would you draft Quinn? :confused:

In my redrafts, I don't make a habit of drafting backups. :shrug:

 
Just Win Baby said:
This post makes no sense. We're talking redraft. If you aren't likely to draft Anderson in redraft, why would you draft Quinn? :confused:



In my redrafts, I don't make a habit of drafting backups. :shrug:
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When you feel real good about their prospects you do. Ive taken players recently like Romo/Roeth/Griese/Young. Roster size is very key, admittedly.

I'm not pretending anything is certain with Quinn, I hope you dont get that impression..

 
BigSteelThrill said:
Just Win Baby said:
This post makes no sense. We're talking redraft. If you aren't likely to draft Anderson in redraft, why would you draft Quinn? :confused:



In my redrafts, I don't make a habit of drafting backups. :shrug:
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When you feel real good about their prospects you do. Ive taken players recently like Romo/Roeth/Griese/Young. Roster size is very key, admittedly.

I'm not pretending anything is certain with Quinn, I hope you dont get that impression..
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So, just to be clear, you are predicting Anderson to lose his job to Quinn, correct? When do you think it will happen?
 
Just Win Baby said:
BigSteelThrill said:
Just Win Baby said:
This post makes no sense. We're talking redraft. If you aren't likely to draft Anderson in redraft, why would you draft Quinn? :thumbup:



In my redrafts, I don't make a habit of drafting backups. :thumbup:
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When you feel real good about their prospects you do. Ive taken players recently like Romo/Roeth/Griese/Young. Roster size is very key, admittedly.

I'm not pretending anything is certain with Quinn, I hope you dont get that impression..
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So, just to be clear, you are predicting Anderson to lose his job to Quinn, correct? When do you think it will happen?
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Overlook the blue text?This year - 50/50 chance.

DA = 5th-6th round.

BQ = 18th+ round/FA.

That should explain my position of more likely to have BQ then DA on my team.

In my orginal post I stated I could still win up drafting DA (he does have value, Im not saying he is worthless), but I would be grabbing BQ if I did.

 
BigSteelThrill said:
Just Win Baby said:
BigSteelThrill said:
Just Win Baby said:
This post makes no sense. We're talking redraft. If you aren't likely to draft Anderson in redraft, why would you draft Quinn? :thumbup:



In my redrafts, I don't make a habit of drafting backups. :thumbup:
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When you feel real good about their prospects you do. Ive taken players recently like Romo/Roeth/Griese/Young. Roster size is very key, admittedly.

I'm not pretending anything is certain with Quinn, I hope you dont get that impression..
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So, just to be clear, you are predicting Anderson to lose his job to Quinn, correct? When do you think it will happen?
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Overlook the blue text?This year - 50/50 chance.

DA = 5th-6th round.

BQ = 18th+ round/FA.

That should explain my position of more likely to have BQ then DA on my team.

In my orginal post I stated I could still win up drafting DA (he does have value, Im not saying he is worthless), but I would be grabbing BQ if I did.
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So what are you really saying here? Isn't it just as easy to take any starter's backup in the 18th round rather than taking the starter at their ADP? :duh:
 
Just Win Baby said:
BigSteelThrill said:
Just Win Baby said:
BigSteelThrill said:
Just Win Baby said:
This post makes no sense. We're talking redraft. If you aren't likely to draft Anderson in redraft, why would you draft Quinn? :wub:



In my redrafts, I don't make a habit of drafting backups. :lmao:
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When you feel real good about their prospects you do. Ive taken players recently like Romo/Roeth/Griese/Young. Roster size is very key, admittedly.

I'm not pretending anything is certain with Quinn, I hope you dont get that impression..
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So, just to be clear, you are predicting Anderson to lose his job to Quinn, correct? When do you think it will happen?
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Overlook the blue text?This year - 50/50 chance.

DA = 5th-6th round.

BQ = 18th+ round/FA.

That should explain my position of more likely to have BQ then DA on my team.

In my orginal post I stated I could still win up drafting DA (he does have value, Im not saying he is worthless), but I would be grabbing BQ if I did.
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So what are you really saying here? Isn't it just as easy to take any starter's backup in the 18th round rather than taking the starter at their ADP? :duh:
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Nope. I would not rather have 'any starters backup'. Im not saying that at all.Again, do you totally skip over what I type? Romo/Roeth/Griese/Young.-esque.

 
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I think what he is saying is that you started this post by saying that you are more likely to have BQ on your team then DA. And that you could say the same thing about almost any QB situation. You seem to be implying that you are not real high on DA (even though he has some serious weapons) and that you think BQ has a good chance of taking over the job. What others are telling you is:

1. you could say this about almost any starter in the league and their backup (that you are more likely to get the back up)

2. BQ probably will not be drafted in many leagues if things remain status quo and normal roster limitations, except maybe by DA owner

3. that if you don't have DA on your roster adding BQ (especially early) is dumb unless VERY DEEP benches

4. very few backups normally even get drafted except for the back up of the top 12 guys or so by the owner of that guy

if you are implying that BQ is near the top of the list of bacjk up QB's to be drafted, that may be true (might not), but for the sake of the discussion, let's say it is, then all you would need to do is simply say that....

I think what people are kinda shooting holes in and having a problem with is your reasoning behind your initial statement of saying you are more likely to have BQ on your team then Anderson......we all probably are if rosters are deep and we don't draft Anderson......you are not really saying anything substantial......

so in a round about way everybody could agree with you because at some point BQ will have value in a draft (deep rosters) even to people without DA.......but only with very, very deep rosters

 
Stinkin Ref said:
I think what he is saying is that you started this post by saying that you are more likely to have BQ on your team then DA. And that you could say the same thing about almost any QB situation. You seem to be implying that you are not real high on DA (even though he has some serious weapons) and that you think BQ has a good chance of taking over the job. What others are telling you is:1. you could say this about almost any starter in the league and their backup (that you are more likely to get the back up)2. BQ probably will not be drafted in many leagues if things remain status quo and normal roster limitations, except maybe by DA owner3. that if you don't have DA on your roster adding BQ (especially early) is dumb unless VERY DEEP benches4. very few backups normally even get drafted except for the back up of the top 12 guys or so by the owner of that guy if you are implying that BQ is near the top of the list of bacjk up QB's to be drafted, that may be true (might not), but for the sake of the discussion, let's say it is, then all you would need to do is simply say that....I think what people are kinda shooting holes in and having a problem with is your reasoning behind your initial statement of saying you are more likely to have BQ on your team then Anderson......we all probably are if rosters are deep and we don't draft Anderson......you are not really saying anything substantial......so in a round about way everybody could agree with you because at some point BQ will have value in a draft (deep rosters) even to people without DA.......but only with very, very deep rosters
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:no:
 
BigSteelThrill said:
from where they will be drafted... I am far more likely to have Brady Quinn sitting on my redraft team(s) then Derek Anderson. And certainly if I pull the trigger on Anderson, for various reasons, I will be snagging Quinn extra early.
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:coffee: Well, that took exactly half the season.
 
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