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Assuming that this happens:

1. AP

2. MJD

3. ?

What is the best route to go with the 3rd overall pick. After working through countless mock drafts I have found that RB, WR, WR is the way to go. I am planning on selecting LT with my 3rd overall pick. I am hoping to snag a WR like Steve Smith in 2nd round, and hoping to snag Wes Welker in the 3rd. Anyone have a different strategy that would like to share.

I think Forte is the way to go. If your feeling frisky maybe SJAX.

But RB-WR-WR looks like the way to go this year unless a great RB falls in the second or third.

I've got this pick in a PPR draft next week. Assuming MJD and AP are gone, I'm considering Forte, SJax, and Fitz. If I had to make my pick now, I'd probably go with Forte.

bigmiiiiike said:

I've got this pick in a PPR draft next week. Assuming MJD and AP are gone, I'm considering Forte, SJax, and Fitz. If I had to make my pick now, I'd probably go with Forte.

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Too early for Fitz.Go with Forte at 3, then if a strong Rb is there in the 2nd, take him

Chaser1439 said:

Assuming that this happens:1. AP2. MJD3. ?What is the best route to go with the 3rd overall pick. After working through countless mock drafts I have found that RB, WR, WR is the way to go. I am planning on selecting LT with my 3rd overall pick. I am hoping to snag a WR like Steve Smith in 2nd round, and hoping to snag Wes Welker in the 3rd. Anyone have a different strategy that would like to share.

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I would consider Frank Gore with the #3 pick. Personally, I think he's as good a bet to finish in the top 10-12 PPR backs as anyone out there. And with a first round RB, I want someone with as little risk as possible. Gore gives you that plus he has the upside. If I had the #3 pick in a PPR and decided to go RB, I would take Gore over Forte.

Max Power said:

I think Forte is the way to go. If your feeling frisky maybe SJAX.

But RB-WR-WR looks like the way to go this year unless a great RB falls in the second or third.

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I have the #3 pick, and I think, thus far, I disagree with this.Only because of the way the 4th round has been falling in mocks. At the #10 pick of the 4th, I like the WRs a lot better than the RBs that are left. McFadden and Grant haven't been making it, it seems like the best options are the rookies, or guessing right on the Colts RB situation.

I have the #1 in a PPR, I'm going with MJD. The only other RB I considered is Forte. AP has finished 5th his rookie year then 9th last year. I think he is over rated as a top 3 pick in PPR. If MJD is there at 3, grab him. If Forte is there at 3, grab him. Past that you have to look at SJax, LT, and Westy. Then maybe AP.

If you want a top 10 LOCK, take Portis.

Too often in the past have we seen 2nd year guys fall off. Take Forte, Chris Johnson, etc. if you want a boom or bust candidate.

massraider said:

Max Power said:

I think Forte is the way to go. If your feeling frisky maybe SJAX.

But RB-WR-WR looks like the way to go this year unless a great RB falls in the second or third.

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I have the #3 pick, and I think, thus far, I disagree with this.Only because of the way the 4th round has been falling in mocks. At the #10 pick of the 4th, I like the WRs a lot better than the RBs that are left. McFadden and Grant haven't been making it, it seems like the best options are the rookies, or guessing right on the Colts RB situation.

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But really who is there at 3.03 (12 team) at RB? Ronnie Brown, Grant, Smith, Lynch, P.Thomas... I think at 3.03 you can still catch on to the tail end of 2nd tier WRs Colston, Boldin, maybe Wayne. Or it could just be that I don't care much for the group of wrs falling around the 4-5 turn. Just out of curiousity, who do you like there?

I'd go:

1.03 Portis (or Gore)

2.10 Roddy White

3.03 Wes Welker

Prob jump on a RB in the 4th, maybe a stud TE in the 5th, and RB-RB in the 6th and 7th...maybe select a QB in there some where, depending on who you want to target, and who falls.

I don't care what the mocks are showing, there is no way Portis lasts until the end of the 2nd round in any respectable draft. I predict he goes at 1.06-2.02 in most serious drafts. He is the safest bet in this years draft, and would be going a lot sooner if people thought for themselves instead of being brainwashed by ADPs.

**Portis and Gore have cake rushing schedules, Turner on the other hand has one of the worst.

Max Power said:

massraider said:

Max Power said:

I think Forte is the way to go. If your feeling frisky maybe SJAX.

But RB-WR-WR looks like the way to go this year unless a great RB falls in the second or third.

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I have the #3 pick, and I think, thus far, I disagree with this.Only because of the way the 4th round has been falling in mocks. At the #10 pick of the 4th, I like the WRs a lot better than the RBs that are left. McFadden and Grant haven't been making it, it seems like the best options are the rookies, or guessing right on the Colts RB situation.

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But really who is there at 3.03 (12 team) at RB? Ronnie Brown, Grant, Smith, Lynch, P.Thomas... I think at 3.03 you can still catch on to the tail end of 2nd tier WRs Colston, Boldin, maybe Wayne. Or it could just be that I don't care much for the group of wrs falling around the 4-5 turn. Just out of curiousity, who do you like there?

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Well, I don't think Wayne is there. In fact, I'd take Wayne at 2.10. But he hasn't fallen to 2.10 in any mocks I have seen/done. Colston is a target there, for sure. Boldin, I am unsure of as a #1 WR, I am just of a mind that the passing game takes a step back there, and I worry about Boldin's attitude, durability, and Warner's durability. Boldin with Leinart throwing to him makes me real nervous.

But either way, I think you are right, there's nice WRs there to grab two of them.

In the 4th, if I thought I could get Grant/DMC, or even Moreno, I'd jump on WR/WR at 2/3. But I think you are looking at Ward, T Jones, Addai, and maybe one of the rookies. Maybe.

The WRs there I like: Roy Williams (ADP of 4.07), VJax, Gonzales, and to a lesser extent, Holmes and Santana Moss.

Now, if I felt strongly about Wells in PPR (which I don't), or thought Addai was going to hold off Brown, I'd jump on WR in the 2nd/3rd.

I've concluded that after AD and MJD are gone, as the consensus 1 and 2, there are at least 10 options/players who could be considered for the #3 selection.

Even if some of you do not have as many options as I do for the next group of players, the next group is still relatively larger than in the past and the bottom line for me is that I am hoping to NOT get the #3-#5 selections in my redraft leagues I'll gladly allow other owners to sort through the bunched-up tier to make their decision and I'll take what's leftover in the 1st and snag another player in this same bunched-up tier in the 2nd Rd as well. My preferred slot (outside of 1 or 2) is anywhere from #6-#12. Just my 02c.

I really like the 3 spot based on the fact that there is great value in the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th round pick. Based on the mock drafts, it seems top 10 WR's are available in the 2nd and 3rd rounds. I also noticed that either Phillip Rivers, Kurt Warner or Aaron Rodgers are falling late in the 4th round. Peyton Manning might be great value at the 22nd overall spot, but if I know I will have a shot at Rivers, or Warner in the 4th, I will gladly take Reggie Wayne, Steve Smith, or Boldin ahead of Peyton.

I truly think that LT is the easiest selection I will make in the draft. I am excited to finally put this guy on my team. I realize that it is a risk, but you dont win championships by playing it safe. This thread should go more in depth. We have identified what to expect over the first 4 rounds but what about the next 11. These examples below are assuming better talent doesnt fall to you at your draft position. My 4th or 5th selection will high risk high reward running back and a top 5 QB.

3rd overall selection: RB

22nd overall selection: WR

27th overall selection: WR

45th overall selection: Kurt Warner/Reggie Bush

51st overall selection: Moreno/Larry Johnson/

69th overall selection: B. berrian/D Clark/Beenie Wells/ Willie Parker/ Lee Evans WHO IS NEXT?

Chaser1439 said:

I really like the 3 spot based on the fact that there is great value in the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th round pick. Based on the mock drafts, it seems top 10 WR's are available in the 2nd and 3rd rounds. I also noticed that either Phillip Rivers, Kurt Warner or Aaron Rodgers are falling late in the 4th round. Peyton Manning might be great value at the 22nd overall spot, but if I know I will have a shot at Rivers, or Warner in the 4th, I will gladly take Reggie Wayne, Steve Smith, or Boldin ahead of Peyton. I truly think that LT is the easiest selection I will make in the draft. I am excited to finally put this guy on my team. I realize that it is a risk, but you dont win championships by playing it safe. This thread should go more in depth. We have identified what to expect over the first 4 rounds but what about the next 11. These examples below are assuming better talent doesnt fall to you at your draft position. My 4th or 5th selection will high risk high reward running back and a top 5 QB.3rd overall selection: RB22nd overall selection: WR27th overall selection: WR45th overall selection: Kurt Warner/Reggie Bush51st overall selection: Moreno/Larry Johnson/69th overall selection: B. berrian/D Clark/Beenie Wells/ Willie Parker/ Lee Evans WHO IS NEXT?

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I'd recheck those ADPs (Bush at 45 in PPR virtually impossible) and Moreno/LJ at 51 will be a big stretch, IMO. This might be one of the reasons I don't do mocks. I've had several real drafts already, and with your draft slot (#3), and I would not suggest tabbing Warner in the 4th (if you must have him I'd hold out till the 5th then), but I'd probably wait on a QB until at least the 6th as you should absolutely be able to load up on quality RBs and WRs by doing so.

Darko M said:

I'd go:

1.03 Portis (or Gore)

2.10 Roddy White

3.03 Wes Welker

Prob jump on a RB in the 4th, maybe a stud TE in the 5th, and RB-RB in the 6th and 7th...maybe select a QB in there some where, depending on who you want to target, and who falls.

I don't care what the mocks are showing, there is no way Portis lasts until the end of the 2nd round in any respectable draft. I predict he goes at 1.06-2.02 in most serious drafts. He is the safest bet in this years draft, and would be going a lot sooner if people thought for themselves instead of being brainwashed by ADPs.

**Portis and Gore have cake rushing schedules, Turner on the other hand has one of the worst.

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This guy knows things. Anyone taking Forte is going to be upset...

Fitz

Chaser1439 said:

Assuming that this happens:1. AP2. MJD3. ?What is the best route to go with the 3rd overall pick. After working through countless mock drafts I have found that RB, WR, WR is the way to go. I am planning on selecting LT with my 3rd overall pick. I am hoping to snag a WR like Steve Smith in 2nd round, and hoping to snag Wes Welker in the 3rd. Anyone have a different strategy that would like to share.

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If this dynasty I'm going Calvin after those 2 are gone and hoping for a decent RB in the 2nd / WR 3rd / Reggie Bush 4th.Redraft I think I would go Chris Johnson over Turner / Forte / SJax

Choke said:

Forte is a strong consideration.... but the answer is... do YOU think Michael Turner will repeat his success (even if slightley less) ? Yes[] No[]

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No. And he cught what, 6 passes last season? Any RB with 40 catches and 350 yards (most of them, some a lot more) essentially has a 700-ish yard head start right out of the gate.

Steven Jackson gets my vote

KellysHeroes said:

Chaser1439 said:

Assuming that this happens:1. AP2. MJD3. ?What is the best route to go with the 3rd overall pick. After working through countless mock drafts I have found that RB, WR, WR is the way to go. I am planning on selecting LT with my 3rd overall pick. I am hoping to snag a WR like Steve Smith in 2nd round, and hoping to snag Wes Welker in the 3rd. Anyone have a different strategy that would like to share.

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If this dynasty I'm going Calvin after those 2 are gone and hoping for a decent RB in the 2nd / WR 3rd / Reggie Bush 4th.Redraft I think I would go Chris Johnson over Turner / Forte / SJax

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Bush in the late 4th in PPR isn't gong to happen too often.

I did a WCOFF sat league w #3 pick. Took Forte, and Wayne did fall to me in the 2nd. I wouldn't count on that again though. I took Bowe in the 3rd and got K. Smith as my RB2 in the 4th.

I totally agree that RB,WR,WR is the play wih the top 3 picks this year, although I have seen Ronnie Brown falling into that area from time to time. That could make me rethink my plans.

I think Forte sees a drop in receptions this year, but an increase in TD's

Desert Eagle said:

I did a WCOFF sat league w #3 pick. Took Forte, and Wayne did fall to me in the 2nd. I wouldn't count on that again though. I took Bowe in the 3rd and got K. Smith as my RB2 in the 4th. I totally agree that RB,WR,WR is the play wih the top 3 picks this year, although I have seen Ronnie Brown falling into that area from time to time. That could make me rethink my plans. I think Forte sees a drop in receptions this year, but an increase in TD's

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WOW a post that is actually related to the subject line? Thanks! I am convinced this is the best drafting strategy for the 3 slot. Would it be crazy to select RB, best WR, if Welker doesnt slip take Reggie Bush?100 receptions from my running back does sound nice, but the receivers that are left in the late 4th round are really bad.

Chaser1439 said:

Desert Eagle said:

I did a WCOFF sat league w #3 pick. Took Forte, and Wayne did fall to me in the 2nd. I wouldn't count on that again though. I took Bowe in the 3rd and got K. Smith as my RB2 in the 4th.

I totally agree that RB,WR,WR is the play wih the top 3 picks this year, although I have seen Ronnie Brown falling into that area from time to time. That could make me rethink my plans.

I think Forte sees a drop in receptions this year, but an increase in TD's

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WOW a post that is actually related to the subject line? Thanks! I am convinced this is the best drafting strategy for the 3 slot. Would it be crazy to select RB, best WR, if Welker doesnt slip take Reggie Bush?

100 receptions from my running back does sound nice, but the receivers that are left in the late 4th round are really bad.

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We need to put names to these. Using the ADP from the WCOFF satellites thus far:49 Larry Johnson

51 Thomas Jones

54 Joseph Addai

59 Beanie Wells

60 Cedric Benson

Sitting at #46, you cannot count on getting Moreno, Pierre, K. Smith, or McFadden--or even Derrick Ward. The backs above make me nervous. Three of them could pay off big, but I also see three that could lose their jobs.

WR?

45 Roy Williams

47 VJax

50 Gonzales

52 Eddie Royal

53 DeSean Jackson

56 Antonio Bryant

61 Santonio

I like the receivers there better, especially if I have Brown/Bush as my #2 back.

TheWick said:

Steven Jackson gets my vote

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I think at least the 1.03 is coming down to SJax and LT for me if MJD doesn't fall. I really like looking at their overall team, past history and backup's potential when making this decision. I think the Rams could be so down again that it makes SJax a complete workhorse. Basically a garbage time king....like '06, the year he hauled in 90 passes because they were behind every game and just threw dumps to him. What a monster he was that season, 2300 combined, 16 TDs and 90 grabs!!! He finished 3rd that year, but it seems like his average is usually in that 10-15RB range. Seems like the worse the Rams are the more receptions SJax could haul in. We know he can put up top 3 #s when healthy, but he likes to pound so that has to be weighed in to the risk too. His backups aren't very good at all if you got in a pinch you'd be making a claim for Darby and Pittman. Jackson has also said he is stronger this year and learning to run better routes.With LT the Chargers are the better team with superior surrounding talent, more overall scoring chances. It's a sound team that probably won't implode by midseason. Unlike the garbage time stats, LT's always seems to be more proactive offensive production. The offense moves. Plus you can target Sproles in the mid rounds and feel pretty insured, maybe not miss much of a beat in a PPR. Although they would probably call up Gartrell too.The VBD app actually has my set up and scoring system with Fitz as 3rd, SJax 4th, AJ 5th and LT 6th? I have to look into Forte a bit more. With only 1 year of stats, he slides for me a bit. But Cutler and their seemingly improved O could have me warming up to him. He was a typical workhorse last season too and Kevin Jones can be had very late.Turner- I actually do think that his TD total can overcome the reception gap somewhat, but there seems to be more factors there that could cause him to drop than remain the same or increase (Noorwood, Gonzo, less TDs, less long runs, fewer broken tackles, etc.). From that point, I'm planning on going WR, WR, RB I think...but will have to think quick if a very nice RB slips to me in the 2nd. You have to love doubling up on same positions when you're close to the turns like this though. Plus you can track what positions the 2 teams behind you will probably take at the turn and maybe wait on someone or beat them to the punch. It seems like with a lot of the RBs in the 4th,5th, 6th this year it could be a great year to get your stud WRs early.

DetroitDragons said:

bigmiiiiike said:

I've got this pick in a PPR draft next week. Assuming MJD and AP are gone, I'm considering Forte, SJax, and Fitz. If I had to make my pick now, I'd probably go with Forte.

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Too early for Fitz.Go with Forte at 3, then if a strong Rb is there in the 2nd, take him

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If you actually want to take Fitz what you should do is trade down in the draft to #5 or #6.I dont recommend this, but if this is the player you want, it makes some sense to trade down and get an extra player or draft pick.

As crazy as this sounds, I've been seeing Portis make it to me at the 2.10 spot in 2 mocks now. I know this probably won't happen on draft day, but he is laying in the weeds this year nice and quiet right now. The guy always seems to be undervalued and just grinds out the yards, TDs and catches with minimal RBBCness behind him. All the younger hyped RBs like Slaton, CJ, Forte etc. are pushing him down and down. Even if he doesn't make it that far he's going to be great value this year somewhere in the mid-late 2nd it seems.

I've been trying to test out going WR-WR at the 2/3 turn, but Portis keeps falling there and it's hard to pass that up as his VBD for a 1PPR league has him at 7th-10th! How is this happening. I think the 2-4 slots ahead of the 2.10 are trying to nail down WRs or Brady/Brees too, causing him to get overlooked. I'm not saying he will be there come late August, but with an ADP around 2.07, it's mighty close. Then you just take BA WR in the 3rd, like a White, Bowe, Jennings, Welker. Maybe double down at WR in 4-5?

I'm assuming this is a 12 team league? If it was a 10 team it would change things a bit. I'm never locked into a drafting strategy - depending on the flow of the draft I change my approach during the draft.

In a 12 team redraft league - I'm hoping to draft in the top 3-4 spots. Take an elite RB and then follow up with a WR & RB or WR/WR at the turn in the 2nd/3rd. If the Rams look decent in preseason - I would lean more towards S-Jax at #3 in PPR, but Forte demands a look. You could also trade the #3 pick & slide down in the first round & move up in a few subsequent rounds if you have a bunch of players rated the same for the #3 spot in the 1st.

LT BABY!!!

I don't care how unconventional or crazy it sounds...

If's it's a 10 team league and it's PPR I would take Andre Johnson or Fitz at #3 if ADP and Mojo were gone. The next 4 or 5 "consensus" picks are the RB's:

Steven Jackson - he might get hurt in the next 10 minutes

Chris Johnon - will lose goal line carries.....depending on long TD's is always dicey

LT - I'm of the opinion he's DONE

Deangelo - Stewart hangs over like a dark cloud

Turner - I'm extremely wary of 370+ carries

Give me 10 minutes of your time and I can easily come up with several things that worry the heck out of me in regards to these 5 for this upcoming year. If it's only a 10 team league you're still going to get a good RB in the 2nd or 3rd round, meanwhile the "big 4" receivers (Moss, AJ, Fitz, and CJ) will all be gone. Why not go WR here? I did it last year out of the #5 spot (only 2 picks later) in my real money league and won the league. I'd do it again with no hesitation. The Rb's available in the 2nd round will be comparable and some (Ronnie Brown for instance) offer just as much if not more upside.

I'd much rather have AJ/Fitz + Brown as opposed to Turner/Greg Jennings as an example.

LT is going to have a break out year. He is motivated to show everyone that he is not lost his amazing ability to play the game. He had two very serious nagging injuries last year. Turf Toe, and a torn groin. He still played in every game except 1 and finished as the 7th best rb last year. This is the first year LT has been healthy heading into training camp in years. He obviously plays on one of the most potent offenses in the league. I like the fact that sproles is there to spell LT. Hopefully he will remain healthy throughout the entire season and produce 20-25 points a game for me. Great value for any pick after 1.3!

At #3 in a draft this past weekend I went with DWill.

On the way back in Rd 2, Brandon Jacobs was available, so I took him. I saw that Jennings, Boldin and Steve Smith were still available so I figured I'd get one of them after the turn. Nope. All 3 went in the next 3 picks.

I hindsight, I would have picked the best WR available and still probably had Ryan Grant available as my RB2, which would actually be great.

I ended up with Chad 85 and Royal as WR1-2.

Cleat Spike said:

As crazy as this sounds, I've been seeing Portis make it to me at the 2.10 spot in 2 mocks now.

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made it all the way to 3.09 in a 12-teamer last night. very competitive draft overall too. i couldn't believe it. he's dropping like a stone right now.

FYI, for those haven't yet drafted, I got MJD at #3 this Saturday. Not sure how universally valid that is, since I draft with several ATL homers and Turner went #2. So, for reference 1st 5 picks went:

1 ADP

2 Turner

3 MJD

4 LT

5 Forte

FWIW, my 1st 4 picks from the 3 spot went:

MJD

R White

McFadden (bit of a reach, and I'm ok with that)

Witten

Anyway, not posting to debate my picks, just informational for those in the 3 spot looking for actual draft data to work with.

Other picks of interest

SJax dropped to 2.03

Portis dropped to 3.07

1st qb off the board was Brees at 1.09

So last night I have a draft where I was "lucky" enough to snag the 3 pick, and started WR/WR since it is PPR and we start 3 WR plus a flex (DD said it was OK).

At 3.03, Brady is still there. Granted passing TDs are only 4 pts, but I took him over some pretty good RBs (Portis, Jacobs, Barber and Smith) because I feel Brady is a more "sure" thing. Granted this forced me to go RB in rounds 5-9 hoping to find 2 or 3 starters every week.

I almost love my team, but realize there are some touch choices early in the draft that really affects the mid rounds

I got MJD at the 4 spot in a PPR re-draft, 20 team league. So it's not out of the question he's there are at 3.

In a 12-team PPR, High Performance, Qb 6pts per td... I drafted the following way... 1.01 ADP, 1.02 Brees, 1.03 Tomlinson, 2.10 Aaron Rodgers, 3.06 Anquan Boldin, 4.07 Pierre Thomas, 5.02 Eddie Royal. There was lots of value from the 3 spot (draft spots were randomized after round 2). I think if you have a league like this, you must get a top4 QB. (Entered via my cell phone so forgive formatting.)