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Jerious Norwood: Sell High? (1 Viewer)

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There has been some off-season speculation that Warrick Dunn's role will be reduced, possibly to a third down back, in the upcoming season. Taken on face value, this would mean a boost for Norwood dynasty owners as Norwood did very well in limited duty this season.

However with the addition of Bobby Petrino, there's been a lot of speculation that there will be a RB philosophy switch from the scat-back type to a power-type running game. I haven't seen Norwod play a lot, but he's is obviously not regarded as a power back type (even though the highlights I have seen looks like he runs pretty tough).

So, I'm wondering if this off-season, specifically before the draft and a potential big-RB pick by Atlanta, is a time to unload Norwood while he still appears to most as the heir apparent to the coveted Atlanta rushing powerhouse.

Thoughts? :confused:

 
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I'm keeping him. But ofcourse if you could get a blockbuster deal for him in return, then by all means yes, trade him away. I'm not afraid of the rumors of them bringing in a "power back". Like Bush is a "power back". The guy is having difficulty healing from a terrible bone injury. He had questionable abilities as it is.

From what I've seen of Norwood, he runs with plenty of power. I didn't see him going backwards after any hits and he isn't afraid to lower his shoulder and finish the run.

Besides, Dunn had several productive seasons splitting time with Duckett and where is Duckett now?

 
Its all speculation at this point. I think Dunn only has 1 year left on his contract. It really depends on the draft. If Petrino takes a big back fairly early both current RBs stock will bottom out. Drafting M. Bush will probably hold them for a year as his recent surgury would put him a year away from being an impact.

If they don't take a RB, then I would think Norwood will be the man this year at least.

If I were to sell Norwood, it would be before the upcoming draft in case Petrino decides to bring a third bigger back into the mix

 
my imaginary scenario, is they take bush, maybe late in the first or second.... let him sit a year... let norwood prove them wrong this year, playing alongside dunn...

 
There has been some off-season speculation that Warrick Dunn's role will be reduced, possibly to a third down back, in the upcoming season.
and where have you read this? can i see some links? not link.. links!! i think you are trying to downgrade dunn's value so you can get him cheap this year. not only are you suggesting norwood taking over, you also have a power back coming in and taking over. warrick dunn is the best rb on the team right now and you have him going from a decent season being the # 1 guy to possibly 3rd string??? it could happen, but i doubt it.
 
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There has been some off-season speculation that Warrick Dunn's role will be reduced, possibly to a third down back, in the upcoming season.
and where have you read this? can i see some links? not link.. links!! i think you are trying to downgrade dunn's value so you can get him cheap this year. not only are you suggesting norwood taking over, you also have a power back coming in and taking over. warrick dunn is the best rb on the team right now and you have him going from a decent season being the # 1 guy to possibly 3rd string???
yeesh, a wee little over caffeinated? I have seen a article here and there through out the season...
 
What exactly would a sell high value be? Straight up, what could you expect to get for him? Give a player and or Dynasty pick example if you could. Thanks.

 
There has been some off-season speculation that Warrick Dunn's role will be reduced, possibly to a third down back, in the upcoming season.
and where have you read this? can i see some links? not link.. links!! i think you are trying to downgrade dunn's value so you can get him cheap this year. not only are you suggesting norwood taking over, you also have a power back coming in and taking over. warrick dunn is the best rb on the team right now and you have him going from a decent season being the # 1 guy to possibly 3rd string???
yeesh, a wee little over caffeinated? I have seen a article here and there through out the season...
i'm mad because i was planning on trading him and the 1.6 pick to try to move up. and now all this. this is rediculous. dunn will be the go to back in atlanta this year. show me some links that gives me a quote stating that dunn could be relgated to backup or 3rd string this year. i searched the forums and found nothing!
 
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There has been some off-season speculation that Warrick Dunn's role will be reduced, possibly to a third down back, in the upcoming season.
and where have you read this? can i see some links? not link.. links!! i think you are trying to downgrade dunn's value so you can get him cheap this year. not only are you suggesting norwood taking over, you also have a power back coming in and taking over. warrick dunn is the best rb on the team right now and you have him going from a decent season being the # 1 guy to possibly 3rd string??? it could happen, but i doubt it.
How would posting speculation about Dunn having a reduced role help me trade for him? Are you in one of my leagues?I'm sorry to give you bad news about your RB2 (clearly), but I said there was off-season SPECULATION. If you want links to speculation, these will do:

The Falcons are expected to utilize a power running game going forward.

The switch from zone blocking will require getting rid of the team's smaller linemen and almost certainly adding a power back in the draft. GM Rich McKay has said that Warrick Dunn, currently rehabbing from shoulder surgery, will be retained, but his role for 2007 is in doubt.
The Associated Press reports that Warrick Dunn underwent shoulder surgery Wednesday.

It's an arthroscopic surgery, but it will take "several months" before Dunn is ready for football activities. The Falcons have previously said they will retain Dunn this off-season, although we suspect he may be in a third-down role next season. The Falcons could turn to Jerious Norwood, but may add talent.
Following GM Rich McKay’s announcement that Warrick Dunn will return to Atlanta in 2007, there is belief it may be in a third-down role.

This would make sense in a transition not unlike the one Marshall Faulk made late in his career. Dunn clearly isn’t as effective an all-down back as he once was. It does leave Jerious Norwood’s role in question; there's a good possibility Bobby Petrino might want to draft a big back.
Warrick Dunn will return to the Falcons next season, according to GM Rich McKay.

He's scheduled to make $3.25 million, but the Falcons apparently are willing to pay Dunn even if he has a reduced role. Bobby Petrino has favored power running backs in the past, making Dunn and Jerious Norwood potentially awkward fits. It's hard to imagine Dunn getting as many carries in 2007.
http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpag...NFL&id=2117
 
There has been some off-season speculation that Warrick Dunn's role will be reduced, possibly to a third down back, in the upcoming season.
and where have you read this? can i see some links? not link.. links!! i think you are trying to downgrade dunn's value so you can get him cheap this year. not only are you suggesting norwood taking over, you also have a power back coming in and taking over. warrick dunn is the best rb on the team right now and you have him going from a decent season being the # 1 guy to possibly 3rd string??? it could happen, but i doubt it.
How would posting speculation about Dunn having a reduced role help me trade for him? Are you in one of my leagues?I'm sorry to give you bad news about your RB2 (clearly), but I said there was off-season SPECULATION. If you want links to speculation, these will do:

The Falcons are expected to utilize a power running game going forward.

The switch from zone blocking will require getting rid of the team's smaller linemen and almost certainly adding a power back in the draft. GM Rich McKay has said that Warrick Dunn, currently rehabbing from shoulder surgery, will be retained, but his role for 2007 is in doubt.
The Associated Press reports that Warrick Dunn underwent shoulder surgery Wednesday.

It's an arthroscopic surgery, but it will take "several months" before Dunn is ready for football activities. The Falcons have previously said they will retain Dunn this off-season, although we suspect he may be in a third-down role next season. The Falcons could turn to Jerious Norwood, but may add talent.
Following GM Rich McKay’s announcement that Warrick Dunn will return to Atlanta in 2007, there is belief it may be in a third-down role.

This would make sense in a transition not unlike the one Marshall Faulk made late in his career. Dunn clearly isn’t as effective an all-down back as he once was. It does leave Jerious Norwood’s role in question; there's a good possibility Bobby Petrino might want to draft a big back.
Warrick Dunn will return to the Falcons next season, according to GM Rich McKay.

He's scheduled to make $3.25 million, but the Falcons apparently are willing to pay Dunn even if he has a reduced role. Bobby Petrino has favored power running backs in the past, making Dunn and Jerious Norwood potentially awkward fits. It's hard to imagine Dunn getting as many carries in 2007.
http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpag...NFL&id=2117
:rolleyes: Dolfan34 = :X

 
the only thing i see out of those articles is pure speculation from the writers in order to create a story during down time. the only quote i see from a team official is from the gm announcing that will retain warrick dunn this year for 4 million. please people, dunn is still the best back on the roster.

 
There has been some off-season speculation that Warrick Dunn's role will be reduced, possibly to a third down back, in the upcoming season.
and where have you read this? can i see some links? not link.. links!! i think you are trying to downgrade dunn's value so you can get him cheap this year. not only are you suggesting norwood taking over, you also have a power back coming in and taking over. warrick dunn is the best rb on the team right now and you have him going from a decent season being the # 1 guy to possibly 3rd string??? it could happen, but i doubt it.
How would posting speculation about Dunn having a reduced role help me trade for him? Are you in one of my leagues?I'm sorry to give you bad news about your RB2 (clearly), but I said there was off-season SPECULATION. If you want links to speculation, these will do:

The Falcons are expected to utilize a power running game going forward.

The switch from zone blocking will require getting rid of the team's smaller linemen and almost certainly adding a power back in the draft. GM Rich McKay has said that Warrick Dunn, currently rehabbing from shoulder surgery, will be retained, but his role for 2007 is in doubt.
The Associated Press reports that Warrick Dunn underwent shoulder surgery Wednesday.

It's an arthroscopic surgery, but it will take "several months" before Dunn is ready for football activities. The Falcons have previously said they will retain Dunn this off-season, although we suspect he may be in a third-down role next season. The Falcons could turn to Jerious Norwood, but may add talent.
Following GM Rich McKay’s announcement that Warrick Dunn will return to Atlanta in 2007, there is belief it may be in a third-down role.

This would make sense in a transition not unlike the one Marshall Faulk made late in his career. Dunn clearly isn’t as effective an all-down back as he once was. It does leave Jerious Norwood’s role in question; there's a good possibility Bobby Petrino might want to draft a big back.
Warrick Dunn will return to the Falcons next season, according to GM Rich McKay.

He's scheduled to make $3.25 million, but the Falcons apparently are willing to pay Dunn even if he has a reduced role. Bobby Petrino has favored power running backs in the past, making Dunn and Jerious Norwood potentially awkward fits. It's hard to imagine Dunn getting as many carries in 2007.
http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpag...NFL&id=2117
:goodposting: Dolfan34 = :own3d:
true, i have not been paying attention, but then again, read my last post.
 
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the only thing i see out of those articles is pure speculation from the writers in order to create a story during down time. the only quote i see from a team official is from the gm announcing that will retain warrick dunn this year for 4 million. please people, dunn is still the best back on the roster.
I was gonna trade for Dunn but now I'm not because of some speculation I read on a message board :goodposting:
 
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Petrino's comments about wanting a big back came on Feb 26th, on March 2nd atlanta signed the 6'1 255lb ovie mughelli to a six year deal, they aren't gonna draft another guy. As far as dunn's role goes he's 32 so it's just a matter of time before he becomes a non factor. All in all I think it's a mistake to get rid of norwood now

 
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DocT said:
This is very close to the Ryan Moats situation 2 years ago in that there is very little to show he can be successful. Don't get sucked in.
Except Norwood is bigger, faster, and better than Moats. The worst speculation here is surrounding Mike Bush. This is pure media fascination b/c Petrino coached him. Bush is lucky if he's a Day One pick anymore with the latest complications with his leg. If anything, Petrino is known for being able to spread the ball around well, so I don't think any single back will be a great value regardless, but Norwood should see more work regardless of the other players in the backfield.Of course, expecting great success of anyone on that team is built on the shaky foundation that Petrino can be the rare top college coach to make the jump and not be a complete failure. I expect one of Petrino or Vick to not come out of this as a Falcon in two years.
 
Norwood is a Tatum Bell type. Great with 8-12 carries. But I'm not sure he's a feature RB.
While I don't think Norwood's outlooks are that great, this just isn't a good argument. What exactly makes you think that?
He starting getting nagging injuries on very limited touches. He has the body of a WR. His legs are paper thin. MJD's one leg equals both of Norwoods.He's a home run type guy. Yes I know he's tough. I love the guy actually. But 300+ carries? That's an extreme stretch to me. And Bell is fairly similiar. Home run threat, questionable durability carrying the load. A great RBBC on the backup end. I've seen every ATL game this past year, and yes I was screaming for more Norwood. But he just has a horrible frame/body to be an NFL RB. He has the heart, but I'm not sure his body will let him.
 
the only thing i see out of those articles is pure speculation from the writers in order to create a story during down time. the only quote i see from a team official is from the gm announcing that will retain warrick dunn this year for 4 million. please people, dunn is still the best back on the roster.
Sooo pretty much exactly what I said? Speculation.Why are you trying to con us like we're the team you're trying to pawn Warrick Dunn off to? Relax, you're making the right move by trying to trade him - just do it quickly before the draft.

Unless of course he reads the SP - then you might be in trouble. :goodposting:

For the rest of us who would like to participate in an objective conversation, Dunn is a 33 year old, small framed RB who just has his lowest totals yards per carry since 2002 and lowest number of yards and catches since he missed time in 2003. Just because they chose to bring him back despite his cap number does not mean he's by default going to rack up another 1400+ yards.

I think most unbiased fans see a RB change in Atlanta - whether it change to a more even split between Dunn/Norwood or Norwood taking the reigns or Atlanta bringing someone else in through the draft.

The question I'm trying to address here is what piece of the pice Norwood will have in 2008 and moving forward.

 
the only thing i see out of those articles is pure speculation from the writers in order to create a story during down time. the only quote i see from a team official is from the gm announcing that will retain warrick dunn this year for 4 million. please people, dunn is still the best back on the roster.
Sooo pretty much exactly what I said? Speculation.Why are you trying to con us like we're the team you're trying to pawn Warrick Dunn off to? Relax, you're making the right move by trying to trade him - just do it quickly before the draft.

Unless of course he reads the SP - then you might be in trouble. :lmao:

For the rest of us who would like to participate in an objective conversation, Dunn is a 33 year old, small framed RB who just has his lowest totals yards per carry since 2002 and lowest number of yards and catches since he missed time in 2003. Just because they chose to bring him back despite his cap number does not mean he's by default going to rack up another 1400+ yards.

I think most unbiased fans see a RB change in Atlanta - whether it change to a more even split between Dunn/Norwood or Norwood taking the reigns or Atlanta bringing someone else in through the draft.

The question I'm trying to address here is what piece of the pice Norwood will have in 2008 and moving forward.
:goodposting: Dunn's value is slipping quickly, and I don't think he's in the league in 2008. He might be a backup if he wants to take a pay cut, but Dunn has one year left, and anyone expecting big things from him are dreaming.

 
my imaginary scenario, is they take bush, maybe late in the first or second.... let him sit a year... let norwood prove them wrong this year, playing alongside dunn...
I don't think the primary ball carrier for 2008 is on the roster... he MIGHT be after the 2007 draft....not saying he'll be a rookie in 2007 either... but Brown is out there, he is "big" so they say
 
Petrino has had Eric Shelton and Michael Bush pretty much back to back at Louisville, so the easy specualtion is that that's what he wants in ATL.

It is all speculation now, but there's reason to be concerned, they changed coaches, offenses, and O-line coach as well. Will they still be running the Gibbs zone scheme?

I've not read anything from Petrino saying he wants a bruiser as the #1 guy.

It's all guess work now, and if a Norwood owner thinks he can't be a feature back, then selling before the draft would seem to be smart. If you think the Falcons draft a back.

I think the Michael Bush to ATL thing is way, way overblown, not to mention there are questions about his health, and for that matter, the success rate of big backs in the NFL.

 
the only thing i see out of those articles is pure speculation from the writers in order to create a story during down time. the only quote i see from a team official is from the gm announcing that will retain warrick dunn this year for 4 million. please people, dunn is still the best back on the roster.
yet you are trying to dump him to move up a couple spots in the draft :lmao:
 
OoOBaby said:
DocT said:
OoOBaby said:
Norwood is a Tatum Bell type. Great with 8-12 carries. But I'm not sure he's a feature RB.
While I don't think Norwood's outlooks are that great, this just isn't a good argument. What exactly makes you think that?
He starting getting nagging injuries on very limited touches. He has the body of a WR. His legs are paper thin. MJD's one leg equals both of Norwoods.He's a home run type guy. Yes I know he's tough. I love the guy actually. But 300+ carries? That's an extreme stretch to me. And Bell is fairly similiar. Home run threat, questionable durability carrying the load. A great RBBC on the backup end. I've seen every ATL game this past year, and yes I was screaming for more Norwood. But he just has a horrible frame/body to be an NFL RB. He has the heart, but I'm not sure his body will let him.
is this just to motivate Jerious Norwood?
 
Tenacious D said:
DocT said:
This is very close to the Ryan Moats situation 2 years ago in that there is very little to show he can be successful. Don't get sucked in.
Except Norwood is bigger, faster, and better than Moats. The worst speculation here is surrounding Mike Bush. This is pure media fascination b/c Petrino coached him. Bush is lucky if he's a Day One pick anymore with the latest complications with his leg. If anything, Petrino is known for being able to spread the ball around well, so I don't think any single back will be a great value regardless, but Norwood should see more work regardless of the other players in the backfield.Of course, expecting great success of anyone on that team is built on the shaky foundation that Petrino can be the rare top college coach to make the jump and not be a complete failure. I expect one of Petrino or Vick to not come out of this as a Falcon in two years.
This along with what FTRWRTR wrote are good postings.
 
Dolfan34 said:
the only thing i see out of those articles is pure speculation from the writers in order to create a story during down time. the only quote i see from a team official is from the gm announcing that will retain warrick dunn this year for 4 million. please people, dunn is still the best back on the roster.
Funny first you say he's lying because you don't see anything in the news,,,Then you say he's lying because the writers are all making it up

Think maybe you could just be wrong?

 
OoOBaby said:
DocT said:
OoOBaby said:
Norwood is a Tatum Bell type. Great with 8-12 carries. But I'm not sure he's a feature RB.
While I don't think Norwood's outlooks are that great, this just isn't a good argument. What exactly makes you think that?
He starting getting nagging injuries on very limited touches. He has the body of a WR. His legs are paper thin. MJD's one leg equals both of Norwoods.He's a home run type guy. Yes I know he's tough. I love the guy actually. But 300+ carries? That's an extreme stretch to me. And Bell is fairly similiar. Home run threat, questionable durability carrying the load. A great RBBC on the backup end. I've seen every ATL game this past year, and yes I was screaming for more Norwood. But he just has a horrible frame/body to be an NFL RB. He has the heart, but I'm not sure his body will let him.
warrick dunnis not the biggest guy around either and he has done pretty well for himself in this league. and as far as legs being thin, this was discussed in another post, marcus allen and the juice had toothpicks for legs. body types mean nothing. it all falls on the individual players
 
OoOBaby said:
Norwood is a Tatum Bell type. Great with 8-12 carries. But I'm not sure he's a feature RB.
Exactly what i feel too. He is tougher then Bell and can get SOME of the tough yards, but Norwood will only be valuable in yardage leagues...I just don't see him scoring a many red-zone TDS.
 
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I really like Norwood's chances. He looked great last year. That being said, I moved him and Coles for Chad Johnson about 1 month ago in a 12 team, 1pt per reception dynasty league.

 
Sell high !!!

WHo is interested ..................He is a third down back and change of pace that s it , he could not last 1 week as a featured back . They would break him in two pieces on his 15th carry .

 
I was frankly very surprised that Atlanta is picking up Dunn's contract for this season. Norwood for me isn't going to have much value in 2007 barring an injury to Warrick. And if Atlanta drafts a RB, his value is highly in question in regards to the 2008 season as well.

The guy runs very well, but I don't know if Atlanta has him in mind to ever become a featured RB on their roster. Norwood's value is either going to shoot way up or way down after draft day depending on who they pickup and where. I don't know that I would trade him now, considering his value is already surpressed for 2007 with Dunn there.

 
The biggest concern I have, is today I read that Petrino wants to move away from the zone-blocking scheme to a more straight forward blocking scheme. If that's the case, I feel that Norwood's long-term value decreases, because I see him more of a one-cut/cut-back style more suited for the zone-blocking.

 
There has been some off-season speculation that Warrick Dunn's role will be reduced, possibly to a third down back, in the upcoming season.
and where have you read this? can i see some links? not link.. links!! i think you are trying to downgrade dunn's value so you can get him cheap this year. not only are you suggesting norwood taking over, you also have a power back coming in and taking over. warrick dunn is the best rb on the team right now and you have him going from a decent season being the # 1 guy to possibly 3rd string??? it could happen, but i doubt it.
How would posting speculation about Dunn having a reduced role help me trade for him? Are you in one of my leagues?I'm sorry to give you bad news about your RB2 (clearly), but I said there was off-season SPECULATION. If you want links to speculation, these will do:

The Falcons are expected to utilize a power running game going forward.

The switch from zone blocking will require getting rid of the team's smaller linemen and almost certainly adding a power back in the draft. GM Rich McKay has said that Warrick Dunn, currently rehabbing from shoulder surgery, will be retained, but his role for 2007 is in doubt.
The Associated Press reports that Warrick Dunn underwent shoulder surgery Wednesday.

It's an arthroscopic surgery, but it will take "several months" before Dunn is ready for football activities. The Falcons have previously said they will retain Dunn this off-season, although we suspect he may be in a third-down role next season. The Falcons could turn to Jerious Norwood, but may add talent.
Following GM Rich McKay’s announcement that Warrick Dunn will return to Atlanta in 2007, there is belief it may be in a third-down role.

This would make sense in a transition not unlike the one Marshall Faulk made late in his career. Dunn clearly isn’t as effective an all-down back as he once was. It does leave Jerious Norwood’s role in question; there's a good possibility Bobby Petrino might want to draft a big back.
Warrick Dunn will return to the Falcons next season, according to GM Rich McKay.

He's scheduled to make $3.25 million, but the Falcons apparently are willing to pay Dunn even if he has a reduced role. Bobby Petrino has favored power running backs in the past, making Dunn and Jerious Norwood potentially awkward fits. It's hard to imagine Dunn getting as many carries in 2007.
http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpag...NFL&id=2117
:2cents: Dolfan34 = :lmao:
What he said... :rolleyes: :yes:
 
the falcons drafting an rb makes no sense with the holes they have

i dont understand it at all

dunn/norwood are an excellent combo

 
the falcons drafting an rb makes no sense with the holes they havei dont understand it at alldunn/norwood are an excellent combo
Agreed. The talk of a power back makes no sense either as they traded Duckett when they had him. It seems like they would rather have the threat of a big play at RB instead of a plunger. This makes defenses play the run honestly and should help Vick(Lord knows he needs it) as far as not having LBs cheat into coverage. But I felt like this last year as well and ATL didn't ever pass for much(150 yds a game I think).
 
The talk of a power back makes no sense either as they traded Duckett when they had him.

You can't underestimate the new coaching regime. Plus I don't think Duckett could ever be a 20-25 carries a game back.

 
the falcons drafting an rb makes no sense with the holes they havei dont understand it at alldunn/norwood are an excellent combo
Agreed. The talk of a power back makes no sense either as they traded Duckett when they had him. It seems like they would rather have the threat of a big play at RB instead of a plunger. This makes defenses play the run honestly and should help Vick(Lord knows he needs it) as far as not having LBs cheat into coverage. But I felt like this last year as well and ATL didn't ever pass for much(150 yds a game I think).
I've always thought the opposite about Vick - he needs a big bruising back who will wear down defenses so it's harder for them to chase Vick late in games. I don't know if that's right, but I watch as many Falcons games as I can and it never seemed like Dunn was able to tire out the defenses the last couple years. As disappointing as Duckett was, my feeling is that he made Vick more effective.
 
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Routilla said:
the falcons drafting an rb makes no sense with the holes they have

i dont understand it at all

dunn/norwood are an excellent combo
Agreed. The talk of a power back makes no sense either as they traded Duckett when they had him. It seems like they would rather have the threat of a big play at RB instead of a plunger. This makes defenses play the run honestly and should help Vick(Lord knows he needs it) as far as not having LBs cheat into coverage. But I felt like this last year as well and ATL didn't ever pass for much(150 yds a game I think).
That was the old coaching regime. There's a new sherriff in town now and of course he will think his way is the best way.As a Norwood owner myself, I hope they stay with Dunn and Norwood, but I wouldn't be surprised at all if Petrino starts bringing in his college boys.

On the other hand, Bush (should he end up in ATL) could be a great compliment to Norwood. Just like Dunn and Duckett.

But I hope Norwood gets some chances at the goalline and not just having to run them in from 80 yards.

:thumbup:

 
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