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Why does everyone think Norwood is a tiny back? he is listed at 6' 205 pounds and most think he could add a few pounds without losing any speed. I posted this before, but i still love watching it:
impressive
I love this play. the cut at the end is just straight sick.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcgatalElfk...ted&search=
99 carries and over 600 yards, not too shabby for a rookie, he has some devastating jukes on that reel also.
because he looks top heavy (skinny legs)
This thread got me curious about his college career, here are a few highlights:In 46 games with the Bulldogs, started 29 times.
This thread got me curious about his college career, here are a few highlights:In 46 games with the Bulldogs, started 29 times.
Set a school career-record with 3,222 yards on 573 carries (5.6 avg) with 15 touchdowns.
Made 43 catches for 186 yards (4.3 avg) and a pair of scores.
Added 43 yards on four punt returns and 309 yards on 15 kickoff returns (20.6 avg).
His 3,760 all-purpose yards rank third in school history.
On 573 rushing attempts, did an excellent job of protecting the ball, fumbling only four times during his career (none in his final seventeen games).
He didn't start any games as freshman, and only 8 as a sophmore. His JR and SR seasons he did not miss a game, it sounds to me like his durability shouldn't be in question, even with his skinny legs.
Not to mention, his team was bad, winning only 3 games each of his final 2 years there. He only had 2 good games against nationaly ranked teams, both against Florida, but he didn't get many carries most of those games. He went for 29/174/2 in 2004 and 13/111/1 in 2005 against Fla.Looks like he doesn't mind initiating contact either.
You must have missed the Michael Turner thread. He looked pretty good on those 99 carries and his injury history in college would seem to dispute the thought that he is brittle.
Why not?
I'm calling this shot now and not backing down. Norwood will not be n the top 20 this year and won't have over 200 carries which comes out to an avg. of about 13 carries a game. If I'm wrong you can revisit and let me hear about it. The guy runs to "straight up" for my likings and he will take some big shot. He reminds me of a smaller Chris Brown and I think will be somewhat similiar. Shows you flashes but then gets popped and we'll see what happens in 2 weeks. Stay away, you have been warned
You missed out on Norwood in your dynasty draft last year.....didn't you?
O.J. had skinny legs too. Didn't seem to affect his ability to carry the ball.
Thanks for the warning, but I will be targeting him.
you mean less than a 100 caries.. and thats a very good stat
Rookie RBs with at least 50 carries and a 5.5 ypc . . .Clinton Portis Franco Harris Maurice Jones-Drew Abner Haynes Paul Lowe Brad Hubbert Jerious Norwood Bo JacksonEarnest Byner Mewelde Moore Jewerl Thomas Greg Pruitt Hoyle Granger Clarence Davis Byron Hanspard Talk about a mixed bag . . .
Nice list David.I think Norwood has an opportunity, because Petrino has no allegiances to Dunn obviously. That said, I also would like to see whether Petrino plans on running a carbon copy of his Louisville offense in ATL; because that doesn't necessarily fit with Norwood's style.
Being an ATL homer, I don't think there's any chance Dunn is cut. He's seen as the leader of this team, the kind of character they love, and Dunn is as much a cornerstone of this franchise as anyone. And with Griffith leaving, they don't have anywhere close to the depth to be cutting Dunn.Dunn won't start for anyone else in the league, so there's no big paycheck waiting for him. They'll rework his deal, and let him finish his career as a Falcon. That doesn't mean Dunns role won't be greatly reduced. Mora had a loyalty to Dunn, and probably gave him more carries then he should have. But Dunn will play a role, but if Norwood starts to out perform him, unlike the last coach, I believe Patrino will increase Norwoods production without hesitation.If you are looking to get Norwood, early in the year might be a good spot. Wait for a key game where Norwood starts to come on late, getting more work, in key situations. This might spell a changing of the guard, as I firmly believe Mora held back Norwood last year. Once Dunn starts the season (which I believe to be the case) the Norwood hype might die down. But I believe he'll be playing an Addai type role, backup by name only, and getting most of the work.
Nice but when you eliminate 2 runs (78 and 69) his ypc drops 1.5 yards.In limited carries 2 big runs like that really manipulates the truth about a guy.
Thanks for the perspective Giggity. You are probably right, I'm just riffing as Dunn wouldn't be a surprising cut when the dust settles. Depends on his willingness to redo a long-term deal though, right?
I don't understand why Petrino would want to break up the running attack in Atl.. Its #1 in the league..They have to have Vick stop throwing turnovers..
Wouldn't even look in his directionYou missed out on Norwood in your dynasty draft last year.....didn't you?
Not that mixed a bag, IMO. Pretty good list, IMO. Only Hubbert, Thomas and Hanspard were busts, and I always liked Moore.
This is the 3rd year where Dunn had to re-work the deal. At his age, he's not going to get more money then the Falcons will give him. McKay/Blank are huge Dunn fans, he's the face of the franchise in Atlanta (him and Crumpler - excluding Vick). As the past few years, I believe he will re-work his deal. The guy is pretty much beloved by Blank, and they really believe in chemistry/character of the team/franchise. (maybe to balance out Vick) From what I've heard on sports radio in ATL, newspapers, it would be a huge shock to see Dunn cut. And I just don't see Dunn and his agent playing hardball for some extra money. He's 32, at the end of his career, he basically has no leverage, and the Falcons really want to keep him. Unless something crazy happens, he'll retire a Falcon.
When you eliminate his 2 best runs of the year, his YPC drops to 5.01. That's still better than Jones-Drew (4.99) LaDainain Tomlinson (4.82), and Tiki Barber (4.79), and almost as good as Gore (5.04) and Turner (5.18).
what is his ypc if you eliminate his two worst runs of the season?
I don't think you would see any differencewhat is his ypc if you eliminate his two worst runs of the season?
That's also probably better than alot of unsuccessful rb's as well. Positives are there as well as negatives. It's whatever side of the fence you want to be on. I'll stay on mine.
What happened to the 2 big runs manipulating the truth about him?
Chase I love what you bring to the board and fear being against you in a debate cause I'm afraid of you crushing with facts that I could never find (just being honest) but when doing the math you can obviously see what I'm trying to say here. (2) plays, like his worse, don't affect the outcome due the total result but the (2) big ones make a huge difference. Please take it easy on me.
This is a mathematical fact, and Chase won't argue with you on this point. The worst rushing plays are far closer to the mean than the best rushing plays. Ergo, dropping the outliers from the low end will have a reduced impact relative to dropping the highest yielding plays.
I'm not trying to "win" anything. I'm just confused, unless you are dead-set on disliking Norwood. If you want to dislike Norwood because you've seen him play and you think he stinks, or you don't like Falcons, or you don't like people with weird first names, that's fine. But if you don't like him because you think his lofty YPC is a mirage, and then we see some pretty convincing evidence that it isn't a mirage, then I don't know why you'd continue to not like him.Just my
I think you make some valid points Blackjacks, but at the same time, it's not really fair to say 2 runs and the guy becomes average/below average, in that scenario, the same could be said if he had more attempts he may have had alot more long plays to further inflate his average. If anyone here can tell me 100% what is going to happen in his career or Turners, that if given a shot they will suck or be great.. then i have some lottery numbers i need to get from you and will gladly never return to these boards.
Since no one here can tell me those answers, they can only speculate and give their opinion, just like you and I, why should he or anyone else say anything towards you since you are just stating your opinion. These boards are full of stupid coments and bad opinions, and since your a Raider fan (I think), your's definitely can't be all bad.LT scored more TDs last year than a lot of unsuccessful RB's, as well. Therefore, don't overrate his performance. Negatives are there if you are willing to see them...
