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BassNBrew

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After analyzing the pre-season games, it's become crystal clear that Steven Jackson will be the top back in 2006. LJ, LT, SA, Portis, and Barber all carry severe handicaps coming into this season. Jackson's lofty 8 ypc average in the pre-season is a sign of good things to come. Jackson brings the perfect blend of maturity, talent, and fresh legs to the table and will follow a path like Payton, Smith, and Sanders in their third seasons. Combine that with an environment of Martz departing, Faulk hanging them up, plenty of passing weapons to keep the defense honest, and a fast home track and a top finish in 2006 is a certainty. Don't cry to me after the season if you burn a pick on one of the big 3.

 
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After analyzing the pre-season games, it's become crystal clear that Steven Jackson will be the top back in 2006. LJ, LT, SA, Portis, and Barber all carry severe handicaps coming into this season. Jackson's lofty 8 ypc average in the pre-season is a sign of good things to come. Jackson brings the perfect blend of maturity, talent, and fresh legs to the table and will follow a path like Payton, Smith, and Sanders in their third seasons. Combine that with an environment of Martz departing, Faulk hanging them up, plenty of passing weapons to keep the defense honest, and a fast home track and a top finish in 2006 is a certainty. Don't cry to me after the season if you burn a pick on one of the big 3.
Hey Bass, didn't you just "burn a pick on one of the big 3" in Anarchy1?If you believe the above to be true - why didn't you take S.Jackson with the first pick overall?

;)

 
After analyzing the pre-season games, it's become crystal clear that Steven Jackson will be the top back in 2006. LJ, LT, SA, Portis, and Barber all carry severe handicaps coming into this season. Jackson's lofty 8 ypc average in the pre-season is a sign of good things to come. Jackson brings the perfect blend of maturity, talent, and fresh legs to the table and will follow a path like Payton, Smith, and Sanders in their third seasons. Combine that with an environment of Martz departing, Faulk hanging them up, plenty of passing weapons to keep the defense honest, and a fast home track and a top finish in 2006 is a certainty. Don't cry to me after the season if you burn a pick on one of the big 3.
Man you know he's going to whup' some in CHUG! :football:
 
After analyzing the pre-season games, it's become crystal clear that Steven Jackson will be the top back in 2006. LJ, LT, SA, Portis, and Barber all carry severe handicaps coming into this season. Jackson's lofty 8 ypc average in the pre-season is a sign of good things to come. Jackson brings the perfect blend of maturity, talent, and fresh legs to the table and will follow a path like Payton, Smith, and Sanders in their third seasons. Combine that with an environment of Martz departing, Faulk hanging them up, plenty of passing weapons to keep the defense honest, and a fast home track and a top finish in 2006 is a certainty. Don't cry to me after the season if you burn a pick on one of the big 3.
Hey Bass, didn't you just "burn a pick on one of the big 3" in Anarchy1?If you believe the above to be true - why didn't you take S.Jackson with the first pick overall?

;)
That was before the pre-season games when LJ and SA have posted RonDayain like numbers. LT is such an injury/fatigue risk that the Bolts are skared to play him. I had them all close before, but SJax's performance has easily pushed him over the top.
 
Well BNB, it's hard to argue with your analysis. 8 YPC, really? That's impressive. So why is everyone on the LT, or LJ bandwagon? LJ only avg 2 YPC last night. He pretty much sucks.

Oh and before I forget, ;)

 
After analyzing the pre-season games, it's become crystal clear that Steven Jackson will be the top back in 2006. LJ, LT, SA, Portis, and Barber all carry severe handicaps coming into this season. Jackson's lofty 8 ypc average in the pre-season is a sign of good things to come. Jackson brings the perfect blend of maturity, talent, and fresh legs to the table and will follow a path like Payton, Smith, and Sanders in their third seasons. Combine that with an environment of Martz departing, Faulk hanging them up, plenty of passing weapons to keep the defense honest, and a fast home track and a top finish in 2006 is a certainty. Don't cry to me after the season if you burn a pick on one of the big 3.
I recently drafted him in the 10th spot and I hope you're right sir.
 
After analyzing the pre-season games, it's become crystal clear that Steven Jackson will be the top back in 2006. LJ, LT, SA, Portis, and Barber all carry severe handicaps coming into this season. Jackson's lofty 8 ypc average in the pre-season is a sign of good things to come. Jackson brings the perfect blend of maturity, talent, and fresh legs to the table and will follow a path like Payton, Smith, and Sanders in their third seasons. Combine that with an environment of Martz departing, Faulk hanging them up, plenty of passing weapons to keep the defense honest, and a fast home track and a top finish in 2006 is a certainty. Don't cry to me after the season if you burn a pick on one of the big 3.
I recently drafted him in the 10th spot and I hope you're right sir.
You can book it like you those who booked 100 receptions for Steve Smith last year.
 
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After analyzing the pre-season games, it's become crystal clear that Steven Jackson will be the top back in 2006. LJ, LT, SA, Portis, and Barber all carry severe handicaps coming into this season. Jackson's lofty 8 ypc average in the pre-season is a sign of good things to come. Jackson brings the perfect blend of maturity, talent, and fresh legs to the table and will follow a path like Payton, Smith, and Sanders in their third seasons. Combine that with an environment of Martz departing, Faulk hanging them up, plenty of passing weapons to keep the defense honest, and a fast home track and a top finish in 2006 is a certainty. Don't cry to me after the season if you burn a pick on one of the big 3.
I recently drafted him in the 10th spot and I hope you're right sir.
You can book it like you those who booked 100 receptions for Steve Smtih last year.
:banned:
 
Stephen Jackson is not a smooth runner. Unless there are gaping holes, he is an average RB. His preaseon holes have been wide enough to drive a bus through, temper your excitement son. Take a look at Ernest Graham from TB if your cheatsheet is made of preseason heros. IMO, SJax will finish the year somewhere in the 8-13 range range for RBs. He is in a good system for success, but his talent is marginal.

 
This is the second time someone has stole my "crystal clear #1" schtick in the last 12 hours. :kicksrock:

Pac10 = Conference of Champions and Trendsetters

 
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After analyzing the pre-season games, it's become crystal clear that Steven Jackson will be the top back in 2006. LJ, LT, SA, Portis, and Barber all carry severe handicaps coming into this season. Jackson's lofty 8 ypc average in the pre-season is a sign of good things to come. Jackson brings the perfect blend of maturity, talent, and fresh legs to the table and will follow a path like Payton, Smith, and Sanders in their third seasons. Combine that with an environment of Martz departing, Faulk hanging them up, plenty of passing weapons to keep the defense honest, and a fast home track and a top finish in 2006 is a certainty. Don't cry to me after the season if you burn a pick on one of the big 3.
Hey Bass, didn't you just "burn a pick on one of the big 3" in Anarchy1?If you believe the above to be true - why didn't you take S.Jackson with the first pick overall?

;)
That was before the pre-season games when LJ and SA have posted RonDayain like numbers. LT is such an injury/fatigue risk that the Bolts are skared to play him. I had them all close before, but SJax's performance has easily pushed him over the top.
Then you should have no problem trading whoever you picked for S. Jackson straight up?Sheesh, it's people like this that shouldn't be allowed to breed...

And yes, this type of misinformation is typical around here. Where there are great minds, there are bound to be dopes

Last season LT got only one carry last preseason (if I am not mistaken) and he took it for a TD or something. Don't quote me on that, I remember reading something like that earier. How did LT do last year sitting out most of the preseason? oh yeah, he was the #2 RB.

That team has been in disaray ever since Martz took over. It's the system that made Faulk. It's the system that made Holmes. Jackson is a great RB, and he should be a top 5 this season... but to put him as the #1... The only concusion I can come up with is that this guy was dropped on his head as a child.

First off, let's look at STL's SOS: 16.4 http://www.footballguys.com/06sos_rb_v01.htm

That puts STL tied for the THIRD WORST schedule for RBs

Second, let's take a look at that roster...

Bulger scares no one. He'll be day to day by week 6, out by week 10. Freotte doesn't scare anyone either

Holt is great, but that's about all they got for a weapon on that team.

Bruce is old, he'll be hurt as well this season... giving way to Curtis who is an average WR

Now let's look at that OL... Pace is HURT, Timmerman is very very old as is McCulum. About the only thing good on that line is the two 2005 picks Incognito and Barron.

How about FB? STL lost their FB from last season, and now they resigned someone who's been a career backup...

And you say all of this points to Jackson as a #1 RB? Please, show me something more than 8 yards per carry after ONE PRESEASON game...

 
This preseason you speak of? Last year Shaun Alexander averaged 3.7 y/c and no TDs in the preseason. Hope everyone stayed away from him.

 
Stephen Jackson is not a smooth runner. Unless there are gaping holes, he is an average RB. His preaseon holes have been wide enough to drive a bus through, temper your excitement son. Take a look at Ernest Graham from TB if your cheatsheet is made of preseason heros. IMO, SJax will finish the year somewhere in the 8-13 range range for RBs. He is in a good system for success, but his talent is marginal.
:rolleyes: Last season he had 20 carries in what 3 games? And they won all those games. This year they are targeting him 20-25 carries a game. If healthy I like his chances.We'll see.
 
After analyzing the pre-season games, it's become crystal clear that Steven Jackson will be the top back in 2006. LJ, LT, SA, Portis, and Barber all carry severe handicaps coming into this season. Jackson's lofty 8 ypc average in the pre-season is a sign of good things to come. Jackson brings the perfect blend of maturity, talent, and fresh legs to the table and will follow a path like Payton, Smith, and Sanders in their third seasons. Combine that with an environment of Martz departing, Faulk hanging them up, plenty of passing weapons to keep the defense honest, and a fast home track and a top finish in 2006 is a certainty. Don't cry to me after the season if you burn a pick on one of the big 3.
Hey Bass, didn't you just "burn a pick on one of the big 3" in Anarchy1?If you believe the above to be true - why didn't you take S.Jackson with the first pick overall?

;)
That was before the pre-season games when LJ and SA have posted RonDayain like numbers. LT is such an injury/fatigue risk that the Bolts are skared to play him. I had them all close before, but SJax's performance has easily pushed him over the top.
Then you should have no problem trading whoever you picked for S. Jackson straight up?Sheesh, it's people like this that shouldn't be allowed to breed...

And yes, this type of misinformation is typical around here. Where there are great minds, there are bound to be dopes

Last season LT got only one carry last preseason (if I am not mistaken) and he took it for a TD or something. Don't quote me on that, I remember reading something like that earier. How did LT do last year sitting out most of the preseason? oh yeah, he was the #2 RB.

That team has been in disaray ever since Martz took over. It's the system that made Faulk. It's the system that made Holmes. Jackson is a great RB, and he should be a top 5 this season... but to put him as the #1... The only concusion I can come up with is that this guy was dropped on his head as a child.

First off, let's look at STL's SOS: 16.4 http://www.footballguys.com/06sos_rb_v01.htm

That puts STL tied for the THIRD WORST schedule for RBs

Second, let's take a look at that roster...

Bulger scares no one. He'll be day to day by week 6, out by week 10. Freotte doesn't scare anyone either

Holt is great, but that's about all they got for a weapon on that team.

Bruce is old, he'll be hurt as well this season... giving way to Curtis who is an average WR

Now let's look at that OL... Pace is HURT, Timmerman is very very old as is McCulum. About the only thing good on that line is the two 2005 picks Incognito and Barron.

How about FB? STL lost their FB from last season, and now they resigned someone who's been a career backup...

And you say all of this points to Jackson as a #1 RB? Please, show me something more than 8 yards per carry after ONE PRESEASON game...
I agree with almost everything Ro3384 says here. How can you possibly determine that SJax will be #1 based on a preseason game? Virtually every player has ??'s surrounding him and I question the notion of "severe handicaps" around LT, LJ, SA...
 
Sheesh, it's people like this that shouldn't be allowed to breed...

And yes, this type of misinformation is typical around here. Where there are great minds, there are bound to be dopes

Last season LT got only one carry last preseason (if I am not mistaken) and he took it for a TD or something. Don't quote me on that, I remember reading something like that earier. How did LT do last year sitting out most of the preseason? oh yeah, he was the #2 RB.

That team has been in disaray ever since Martz took over. It's the system that made Faulk. It's the system that made Holmes. Jackson is a great RB, and he should be a top 5 this season... but to put him as the #1... The only concusion I can come up with is that this guy was dropped on his head as a child.

First off, let's look at STL's SOS: 16.4 http://www.footballguys.com/06sos_rb_v01.htm

That puts STL tied for the THIRD WORST schedule for RBs

Second, let's take a look at that roster...

Bulger scares no one. He'll be day to day by week 6, out by week 10. Freotte doesn't scare anyone either

Holt is great, but that's about all they got for a weapon on that team.

Bruce is old, he'll be hurt as well this season... giving way to Curtis who is an average WR

Now let's look at that OL... Pace is HURT, Timmerman is very very old as is McCulum. About the only thing good on that line is the two 2005 picks Incognito and Barron.

How about FB? STL lost their FB from last season, and now they resigned someone who's been a career backup...

And you say all of this points to Jackson as a #1 RB? Please, show me something more than 8 yards per carry after ONE PRESEASON game...
So basically your opinion is based on the team being is disarray since Martz took over (who's now gone) and had several playoff appearences and one of the best offenses in the league. You then further support that agrument by saying you're scared of the Bulger man, most of the team is old, and the rest will get hurt except Holt. On top of that you thin a schedule against the likes of the NFC West, AFC West, with GB, DET, MIN, and CAR added to it won't result in some scoring.Finally..."Jackson is a great RB, and he should be a top 5 this season"...really doesn't strengthen your argument.

 
Then you should have no problem trading whoever you picked for S. Jackson straight up?
I think that would make no sense because the perceived market value of those players is that the big 3 are better than SJax.
Sheesh, it's people like this that shouldn't be allowed to breed... And yes, this type of misinformation is typical around here. Where there are great minds, there are bound to be dopes
About a 9 on the tension scale there Ro3384. He's just stating his most up-to-date opinion of SJax. Let go of your anger.
Bulger scares no one. He'll be day to day by week 6, out by week 10. Freotte doesn't scare anyone either
I think that you make some valid points about the cons for SJax. This is the only part of your argument that I disagree with you on. Predicting injury to Bulger is kind of a wildcard. Any QB can get hurt on any play. If he's healthy right now, you can't put that evil on him. Also, what about Rivers in San Diego? He could play well or like a rookie. And if he plays like a rookie then LT will suffer. Of that much I am convinced.All that said, I think it's a longshot that SJax is the #1 guy, but it's not impossible and there's always a lot of turnover in the top 10 RBs from year to year.
 
After analyzing the pre-season games, it's become crystal clear that Steven Jackson will be the top back in 2006. LJ, LT, SA, Portis, and Barber all carry severe handicaps coming into this season. Jackson's lofty 8 ypc average in the pre-season is a sign of good things to come. Jackson brings the perfect blend of maturity, talent, and fresh legs to the table and will follow a path like Payton, Smith, and Sanders in their third seasons. Combine that with an environment of Martz departing, Faulk hanging them up, plenty of passing weapons to keep the defense honest, and a fast home track and a top finish in 2006 is a certainty. Don't cry to me after the season if you burn a pick on one of the big 3.
Hey Bass, didn't you just "burn a pick on one of the big 3" in Anarchy1?If you believe the above to be true - why didn't you take S.Jackson with the first pick overall?

;)
Seems you got your bases covered here. If SJ is the #1 overall you can come back here and bump your own post. If he's not, you drafted one of the big 3 where it matters (in your money league) and you can destroy your leaguemates.Wow.... big call! :thumbdown:

 
Sheesh, it's people like this that shouldn't be allowed to breed...

And yes, this type of misinformation is typical around here. Where there are great minds, there are bound to be dopes

Last season LT got only one carry last preseason (if I am not mistaken) and he took it for a TD or something. Don't quote me on that, I remember reading something like that earier. How did LT do last year sitting out most of the preseason? oh yeah, he was the #2 RB.

That team has been in disaray ever since Martz took over. It's the system that made Faulk. It's the system that made Holmes. Jackson is a great RB, and he should be a top 5 this season... but to put him as the #1... The only concusion I can come up with is that this guy was dropped on his head as a child.

First off, let's look at STL's SOS: 16.4 http://www.footballguys.com/06sos_rb_v01.htm

That puts STL tied for the THIRD WORST schedule for RBs

Second, let's take a look at that roster...

Bulger scares no one. He'll be day to day by week 6, out by week 10. Freotte doesn't scare anyone either

Holt is great, but that's about all they got for a weapon on that team.

Bruce is old, he'll be hurt as well this season... giving way to Curtis who is an average WR

Now let's look at that OL... Pace is HURT, Timmerman is very very old as is McCulum. About the only thing good on that line is the two 2005 picks Incognito and Barron.

How about FB? STL lost their FB from last season, and now they resigned someone who's been a career backup...

And you say all of this points to Jackson as a #1 RB? Please, show me something more than 8 yards per carry after ONE PRESEASON game...
So basically your opinion is based on the team being is disarray since Martz took over (who's now gone) and had several playoff appearences and one of the best offenses in the league. You then further support that agrument by saying you're scared of the Bulger man, most of the team is old, and the rest will get hurt except Holt. On top of that you thin a schedule against the likes of the NFC West, AFC West, with GB, DET, MIN, and CAR added to it won't result in some scoring.Finally..."Jackson is a great RB, and he should be a top 5 this season"...really doesn't strengthen your argument.
Yes, Martz is gone... we don't know how the team's going to be run this season... it's like you're guaranteeing a return to The Greatest Show on Turf... sorry, but that was a once in a lifetime sort of thing in STL...Yeah, he had several playoff apperances and one of the best offenses in the league... he inherited a great team and look what he did with it! They went from a playoff team to nothing. All he has done is prove that he can take a team and run it into the mud. Makin the playoffs... Mike Sherman had a winning record and many playoff appearances in GB, but let me tell you we are all GLAD to see him gone. He was a terrible coach and an even worse GM. He ran that team into the ground.... If Martz was such a great coach, how come no one hired him? Same for Sherman... I can answer it for you- they aren't good coaches.

And no, I don't think agmes against CAR will result in scoring... Carolina has one of the best defenses. Most of the teams they face have great defenses against the run. Their passing D is a little suspect, but if you're going to bank your season on 3 games (MIN, DET, GB), then you've got more problems than your ridculous prediction.

And yes, I was saying Jackson is a great RB. I think he's very talented. I think he COULD be the #1 RB if he was on a better team, I just don't see it happening this year with such an injury prone team that is clearly headed towards rebuilding mode fast, not to mention the 3rd worst schedule for running backs

 
After analyzing the pre-season games, it's become crystal clear that Steven Jackson will be the top back in 2006. LJ, LT, SA, Portis, and Barber all carry severe handicaps coming into this season. Jackson's lofty 8 ypc average in the pre-season is a sign of good things to come. Jackson brings the perfect blend of maturity, talent, and fresh legs to the table and will follow a path like Payton, Smith, and Sanders in their third seasons. Combine that with an environment of Martz departing, Faulk hanging them up, plenty of passing weapons to keep the defense honest, and a fast home track and a top finish in 2006 is a certainty. Don't cry to me after the season if you burn a pick on one of the big 3.
Wow, you hit your limit in record time... :fishing: It's a shame to have to throw back so many "keepers".
 
After analyzing the pre-season games, it's become crystal clear that Steven Jackson will be the top back in 2006. LJ, LT, SA, Portis, and Barber all carry severe handicaps coming into this season. Jackson's lofty 8 ypc average in the pre-season is a sign of good things to come. Jackson brings the perfect blend of maturity, talent, and fresh legs to the table and will follow a path like Payton, Smith, and Sanders in their third seasons. Combine that with an environment of Martz departing, Faulk hanging them up, plenty of passing weapons to keep the defense honest, and a fast home track and a top finish in 2006 is a certainty. Don't cry to me after the season if you burn a pick on one of the big 3.
Wow, you hit your limit in record time... :fishing: It's a shame to have to throw back so many "keepers".
:goodposting: Bass has picked first in at least two leagues I know of and he mistakenly took LJ both times.(see my LT crystal clear thread)
 
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Bulger scares no one. He'll be day to day by week 6, out by week 10. Freotte doesn't scare anyone either
I think that you make some valid points about the cons for SJax. This is the only part of your argument that I disagree with you on. Predicting injury to Bulger is kind of a wildcard. Any QB can get hurt on any play. If he's healthy right now, you can't put that evil on him. Also, what about Rivers in San Diego? He could play well or like a rookie. And if he plays like a rookie then LT will suffer. Of that much I am convinced.
Predicting an injury to Bulger is a wildcard... the guy has not played a complete 16 game season in his entire career... but yes, any QB can get hurt on any play, it's just Bulger seems to get hurt more often.Rivers in SD could turn out bad, could turn out good. The difference between him and Bulger is that Bulger has shown us that he can't stay healthy. I acutally hope that Rivers does bad, becuase that means more receptions for LT. Back when LT had his 100 reception season, Brees was awful. He looked lost back there, but LT was always in the flat to bail him out with a little dump off. If Rivers struggles, expect the same
 
After analyzing the pre-season games, it's become crystal clear that Steven Jackson will be the top back in 2006. LJ, LT, SA, Portis, and Barber all carry severe handicaps coming into this season. Jackson's lofty 8 ypc average in the pre-season is a sign of good things to come. Jackson brings the perfect blend of maturity, talent, and fresh legs to the table and will follow a path like Payton, Smith, and Sanders in their third seasons. Combine that with an environment of Martz departing, Faulk hanging them up, plenty of passing weapons to keep the defense honest, and a fast home track and a top finish in 2006 is a certainty. Don't cry to me after the season if you burn a pick on one of the big 3.
Hey Bass, didn't you just "burn a pick on one of the big 3" in Anarchy1?If you believe the above to be true - why didn't you take S.Jackson with the first pick overall?

;)
Seems you got your bases covered here. If SJ is the #1 overall you can come back here and bump your own post. If he's not, you drafted one of the big 3 where it matters (in your money league) and you can destroy your leaguemates.Wow.... big call! :thumbdown:
Wasn't a ppr league, players on your roster accumulate points thru the post season, and it was two weeks ago. I have the Cardinals winning that division with Seattle in the mix and STL maybe getting a sniff. With the strength of the East and South, I think you'll see the wildcard teams there. Didn't really want to give up an average of 2 post-season games worth of production. Went LJ over LT because I think the Chiefs secondary will be better and the odds of Rivers taking the Chargers to the playoffs in his first year aren't better than 50/50.Seems that you have no clue as to what you're talking about there chief.

 
Still waiting for Bass N Brew to make a post that he has traded LT for S. Jackson...

He says his drafts were before the 1st preseason game... okay, but it's after the 1st preseason game and I am assuming that he still has LT on both of his teams... Ridiculous. Put your money where your mouth is and offer those trades

I'm done looking at this thread. This guy makes no sense... it;'s not even worth arguing. I'll just get my laugh out of it and move on to the next one

 
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Still waiting for Bass N Brew to make a post that he has traded LT for S. Jackson...He says his drafts were before the 1st preseason game... okay, but it's after the 1st preseason game and I am assuming that he still has LT on both of his teams... Ridiculous. Put your money where your mouth is and offer those tradesI'm done looking at this thread. This guy makes no sense... it;'s not even worth arguing. I'll just get my laugh out of it and move on to the next one
a) It's a no trade league.b) It includes post season stats.c) It's not ppr for RB.d) I'm consistantly finishing in the upper half against folks from these parts with the balls to compete in these leagues.e) Consider yourself enlighten...you'll thank me later.
 
Still waiting for Bass N Brew to make a post that he has traded LT for S. Jackson...He says his drafts were before the 1st preseason game... okay, but it's after the 1st preseason game and I am assuming that he still has LT on both of his teams... Ridiculous. Put your money where your mouth is and offer those tradesI'm done looking at this thread. This guy makes no sense... it;'s not even worth arguing. I'll just get my laugh out of it and move on to the next one
a) It's a no trade league.b) It includes post season stats.c) It's not ppr for RB.d) I'm consistantly finishing in the upper half against folks from these parts with the balls to compete in these leagues.e) Consider yourself enlighten...you'll thank me later.
Forgot to add...glad your moving on. The Steve Smith for 100 receptions prediction last year had the same type of reaction.
 

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