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I hate comparing players to each other, but i cant help but to see alot of similarities in their running style. I know Bradshaw doesnt catch alot of passes, but i wonder how much of that is due to the teams QB's. Either way, i would say it is safe to say that Rice is the better pass catcher. Other than that and durability, these two are almost clones. They are both small, but run with good power. Both have good vision, quickness and run small. Both players are also 23 years old.

The biggest difference between the two might be their current dynasty value. I am thinking if you want to get Ray Rice, without paying a Ray Rice price(I knew i could work this in somehow)than Bradshaw might be your guy.

Below is Rices' 2009 season and Bradshaws' career statistics.

Rice - 254 carries, 1339 yards, 5.3 YPC, 7 TD, 78 rec, 702, 9,0 YPC, 1 TD

Bradshaw - 253 carries, 1323 yards, 5.2 YPC, 9 TD, 28 rec, 207, 9.9 YPC, 1 TD

Obviously Rice catches more passes, but like i said above, that might not be the case in the future as Flacco matures as a QB, and actually gets some decent WR's.

Assuming Bradshaw can stay healthy, i think there is a pretty good chance he relegates Jacobs to a Mcgahee type roll in the Giants offense. At this point, i think Jacobs would be lucky to get that, based on his play last year.

Right now, Bradshaw is a great buy low candidate, especially if the Giants do not add another RB in the early part of the draft or via free agency.

 
So is this a Ray Rice thread or a Bradshaw thread? I see the numbers and they look close now but visually I see Rice with a lot more talent that Bradshaw. Ray Rice just had a breakout year, so comparing overall stats only means so much when the guy has only 1 stud season under his belt. Baltimore is a perfect fit for Rice who gets so many check downs and will get significant carries because they have a solid defense and play close to the vest.

I'm trying to think of someone who's so short, powerful and can catch the ball. Priest Holmes comes to mind but I can't say I watched him last year and it came to my mind that that's who he looks like.

 
I think Rice has much better vision, cutback skills, and natural RB abilities than Bradshaw does. He sees the hole with his vision, cuts back when necessary, and then makes a big play before anyone knew what happened. Rice is also a great receiver out of the backfield. I'm not knocking Bradshaw, I just don't think he is in the same league as Rice.

 
Not to Hijack but if I had to pick one RB past or present that Rice reminds me of it would have to be Curtis Martin. He has a little more bulk and a little more speed but the skill set is pretty similar. I've said it since Rice was drafted, he's probably going to have a short NFL career. Rice has a bagillion miles on him from Rutgers.. if Rice has 6-8 strong seasons, I'll be surprised.

 
The thing that strikes me about Rice is his balance. He has incredible balance and shiftiness. It's fun to watch him run.

I like Bradshaw a lot and actually think he can turn into a great fantasy starter, but he hasn't shown me the same skill set Rice displays yet.

 
Not to Hijack but if I had to pick one RB past or present that Rice reminds me of it would have to be Curtis Martin. He has a little more bulk and a little more speed but the skill set is pretty similar. I've said it since Rice was drafted, he's probably going to have a short NFL career. Rice has a bagillion miles on him from Rutgers.. if Rice has 6-8 strong seasons, I'll be surprised.
I'm not really understanding this. Curtis Martin played for three years in college and 11 years in the NFL. All except his very last year he was a 1,000 yard rusher. If Rice is bulkier and has more speed, why would you think he would have a shorter career than Martin did?Second is there any precedent for college RBs having a "bagillion" miles on them resulting in shorter NFL careers? I hadn't notice this being a trend. I'm not saying Rice will play for 10 years, or 5. I'm just saying I've never considered how many years a player started in college as a factor in predicting NFL career length. Unless the player was riddled with injuries during college (which Rice was not) I'm not sure I or anyone could predict how many years a certain player will go.Third, I was really depressed to find out that Curtis Martin, who it feels like has been retired for a 100 years, is a year younger than me. Ugh.
 
Ray Rice reminds me of Emmitt Smith because of what was mentioned before - balance and the way he finishes runs. Ahmad Bradshaw has the talent to be a good starter. I think he lacks the power of Rice, but he's a more dangerous runner in space. If I had to choose between the two, I'd rather have Rice because of his more physical style.

 
Rice is a much more fluid runner and as you already said a very good pass catcher.

I like Bradshaw too but he runs just like MBIII to me
:wub: Bradshaw runs too hard , looks for and actively seeks out contact , while Rice is more fluid,more graceful, more elusive, and much,much better hands..

this isn't even a comparison...if you were starting a team who would you draft, Rice or Bradshaw?

not even an issue who you'd go with!

Rice!

 
I don't think Rice relishes contact the way that MJD does.
Maybe not, but but he has similar power, similar body type, similar quickness and speed, similar receiving skills. And he has that same low-centered power near the goalline. I actually think he makes a better goalline back than McGahee.
I don't know, I'm still not seeing it. Especially not the "similar body type" part- MJD is an inch shorter, 10 pounds heavier, and decidedly more bottom-heavy.
 
I don't think Rice relishes contact the way that MJD does.
Maybe not, but but he has similar power, similar body type, similar quickness and speed, similar receiving skills. And he has that same low-centered power near the goalline. I actually think he makes a better goalline back than McGahee.
I don't know, I'm still not seeing it. Especially not the "similar body type" part- MJD is an inch shorter, 10 pounds heavier, and decidedly more bottom-heavy.
I've also thought Rice looks like a shrunken version of Jamal Lewis body-wise. Doesn't run like him, though. Might just be those guns.
 
jackdubl said:
Agree on the MJD comparisons...runs hard and low to the ground, great balance, although he is not quite the 'bowling ball' that MJD is barrelling through the line. His pass catching ability and open-field running is alot like MJD.
 
Tanner9919 said:
THE UNDERCOVER BROTHA said:
Rice is a much more fluid runner and as you already said a very good pass catcher.

I like Bradshaw too but he runs just like MBIII to me
:hophead: Bradshaw runs too hard , looks for and actively seeks out contact , while Rice is more fluid,more graceful, more elusive, and much,much better hands..

this isn't even a comparison...if you were starting a team who would you draft, Rice or Bradshaw?

not even an issue who you'd go with!

Rice!
I dont think you can say this for sure. I know Jacobs has bad hands, ive seen him drop pass after pass, but i dont ever remember Bradshaw dropping a pass. I think the catch number would be alot closer if the two swapped teams. Im not saying Rice isnt a better pass catcher, but i think that is at least in part due to team.
 
Iwannabeacowboybaby! said:
So is this a Ray Rice thread or a Bradshaw thread? I see the numbers and they look close now but visually I see Rice with a lot more talent that Bradshaw. Ray Rice just had a breakout year, so comparing overall stats only means so much when the guy has only 1 stud season under his belt. Baltimore is a perfect fit for Rice who gets so many check downs and will get significant carries because they have a solid defense and play close to the vest.

I'm trying to think of someone who's so short, powerful and can catch the ball. Priest Holmes comes to mind but I can't say I watched him last year and it came to my mind that that's who he looks like.
Neither, i try to avoid player pimping threads. I was watching games from last year on my DVR, and watched a Ravens and Giants game back to back. As far as the numbers, that was a last minute addition, i wasnt even going to include them in my post at first.
 
Not to Hijack but if I had to pick one RB past or present that Rice reminds me of it would have to be Curtis Martin. He has a little more bulk and a little more speed but the skill set is pretty similar. I've said it since Rice was drafted, he's probably going to have a short NFL career. Rice has a bagillion miles on him from Rutgers.. if Rice has 6-8 strong seasons, I'll be surprised.
His last year at Rutgers... he had 380 carries in 11 games. Plus 25 catches.Thats 34.5 rushes per game. :loco:

His previous year wasnt as bad 28 rushes per game for 12 games and no (4) catches. And his one other year only had 195 rushes.

It appears to be one huge spike his final season.

With the Ravens last year they limited him to just 254 rushes over 16 games and a wonderful 78 catches. (plus 35 more in 2 playoff games)
Not disagreeing with the ultimate conclusion (we ran him a lot at Rutgers) but he played 13 games that year, for an average of 29.2 carries per game. He averaged 25.7 the previous year (13 games again).http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/player/gamelog?playerId=176934

 
Not to Hijack but if I had to pick one RB past or present that Rice reminds me of it would have to be Curtis Martin. He has a little more bulk and a little more speed but the skill set is pretty similar. I've said it since Rice was drafted, he's probably going to have a short NFL career. Rice has a bagillion miles on him from Rutgers.. if Rice has 6-8 strong seasons, I'll be surprised.
I LOVED the fact that Rice logged a ton of carries in college--it was how I knew he could be a bellweather back in the NFL despite being a bit smaller than ideal. I don't think there is any evidence that a lot of carries leads to a shorter career unless a guy starts logging 400 plus. I submit the very opposite: a guy who has a lot of carries for a number of years has proven durability. As far as Bradshaw, they ARE similar. But I think that Rice has show greater durability. The only question mark for Bradshaw is can he touch the ball 300 times a season and not get hurt. Rice has answered that question.
 

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