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ceo3west

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Every year there are guys drafted outside the top 50 WR's who become a legit #3 or better in a 12 team league. Let's find those guys this year; here is the list along with my picks to possibly break into the top 35:

Justin Gage TEN WR 51

Patrick Crayton DAL WR 52

Muhsin Muhammad CAR WR 53

Miles Austin DAL WR 54

Deion Branch SEA WR 55

Nate Washington TEN WR 56

Earl Bennett CHI WR 57

Nate Burleson SEA WR 58

Michael Jenkins ATL WR 59

Joey Galloway NE WR 60

Brian Robiskie CLE WR 61

Darrius Heyward-Bey OAK WR 62

Isaac Bruce SF WR 63

Sidney Rice MIN WR 64

Bobby Engram KC WR 65

Greg Camarillo MIA WR 66

Plaxico Burress WR 67

Mark Bradley KC WR 68

Devery Henderson NO WR 69

Davone Bess MIA WR 70

Robert Meachem NO WR 71

Mike Walker JAX WR 72

Jordy Nelson GB WR 73

Devin Thomas WAS WR 74

Chaz Schilens OAK WR 75

Demetrius Williams BAL WR 76

David Clowney NYJ WR 77

Johnnie Lee Higgins OAK WR 78

Antwaan Randle El WAS WR 79

Earl Bennett CHI WR 57 - While Bennett is a rookie, he has Cutler throwing to him and they have a history together from Vandy. And count me in as one who is skeptical of Hester as being a true WR1 in the NFL. Hester could break out with Cutler throwing to him, but I think it's just as likely that Bennett ends up with as good or better numbers.

Mark Bradley KC WR 68 - This is a gut call; I have a good feeling about the KC offense this year. And while Bowe will get his, I think Bradley will be the biggest beneficiary of Gonzo being gone. Not to mention KC will be throwing a lot this year in their new offense.

Devery Henderson NO WR 69 - I'll let everyone else buy the hype on Lance Moore, then I'll take NO's #2 WR in the late rounds. Henderson should have a solid year and will be especially valuable in best ball.

Mike Walker JAX WR 72 - Don't sleep on this guy. Look for Garrard to have a solid season, and Walker will be a big reason for it. I think Holt will bounce back, but I think Walker could end up with better numbers. He'll be a top 30 WR in 2010 drafts IMO.

Who do you like to break the top 35 and why?

 
I also like Bennett

Micheal Clayton-The talent is there and will he finally live up to it. I think this could be the year for it.

Devin Thomas-The news so far is good. Of course not so big on Jason Campbell

Is James Jones in top 51. If not I like him way more than Jordy Nelson

 
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ceo3west said:
Devery Henderson NO WR 69 - I'll let everyone else buy the hype on Lance Moore, then I'll take NO's #2 WR in the late rounds. Henderson should have a solid year and will be especially valuable in best ball.
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Devery is way too inconsistent. If you want to take a late round Saint WR, take Meachem.
 
Zigg said:
ceo3west said:
Devery Henderson NO WR 69 - I'll let everyone else buy the hype on Lance Moore, then I'll take NO's #2 WR in the late rounds. Henderson should have a solid year and will be especially valuable in best ball.
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Devery is way too inconsistent. If you want to take a late round Saint WR, take Meachem.
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Concur. If only Devery had hands ... although, his ability to get open is very good. Always a nice candidate for the proverbial career year.It's easy to list reasons why Meachem does not matter, but I won't be surprised at all if the light comes on this season. Also, the thought of handcuffing WR rarely crosses my mind, if ever, but if I own Colston I make an effort to get Meachem late.

 
Gut call

Muhsin Muhammad CAR WR 53

Michael Jenkins ATL WR 59

Mark Bradley KC WR 68

Jordy Nelson GB WR 73

Devin Thomas WAS WR 74

Chaz Schilens OAK WR 75

 
Of the guys on that list, the only ones I like a lot are Nate Washington and Moose Muhammad.

Washington will be the No. 1 target in Tennessee, and they'll try to get him the ball in a lot of different ways -- screens, hitches, downfield. He's easily the most talented guy they have and could have a good year.

Muhammad is still chugging along, and he's a reliable red zone target and possession receiver whom Delhomme trusts a lot.

 
Laurent Robinson isn't mentioned in the list. I like him to possibly crack the top 35 WRs this year. Avery is out till game one of the season, Robinson has already passed Burton on the depth chart, and the preseason reps with the first team as #1 target will only make him better. He has game, but can St. Louis pass enough for him to get the numbers.

Muhsin has always been solid, if Burleson is fully healed from his injury he could make some noise. I also like Jenkins in ATL, but with Turner/TGonz/Roddy, his touches are going to be limited, but with Douglas out this season, not a lot of competition to hold his starting spot.

 
ninerfanatic492000 said:
Bess will break top 20(being conservative) in PPR
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Very :) A lot of people are sleeping on this guy. I think he'll easily lead the Dolphins in catches and is said to be having an excellent camp. As long as I had 1 sure fire stud at WR(top-5) I'd be very comfortable with Bess as my WR3. I could totally see Bess having 70-80 catches, and I think he'll average more than 10 YPC this year. He's actually a pretty good open field runner. 75 catches for 900 yards and 5 TD's is about what I'm thinking for Bess.Another guy I really like is Jordy Nelson. He may not have much of an impact as long as both Driver and Jennings are healthy, but I think with the exception of Breaston, there isn't a #3 with more upside if a starter goes down. Even if he doesn't become a starter, he'll likely finish in the top-50 as the 3rd guy. Of course James Jones could take the #3 job from him, but I really don't trust his knee. Besides, you can draft both late and get a potential top-20 WR.
 
I like the following:

Muhsin Muhammad CAR WR 53 - yeah he's old, but for this year only, he's got a shot. In the last 6 years, he's been worse than WR37 once. Last year he was WR26.

Nate Burleson SEA WR 58 - I'd expect him to start opposite Housh, and I don't think Branch will tay healthy. Hass & the OL being healthy should help.

Greg Camarillo MIA WR 66 or Davone Bess MIA WR 70 - If one of these guys seizes a starting job, they could get there. Both showed some skills last year, but they may cancel each other out.

Chaz Schilens OAK WR 75 - I think he's going to be the #1 WR in Oakland.

 
Hixon was in this group just a short time ago. So he is already moving up boards or I just missed him on the list. He has alot of upside and hasn't been costing too much to aquire.

Schillens. Has the fewest questions of the guys I like. Opportunity and talant.

Walker. Talent, size and dedication. A hard worker. Too bad He's made of glass. I feel for the Kid.

Thomas. I like his enthusiasm. Hope he has matured. The penalties killed him. Hard to be excited by Skins O

Nelson. redraft He's a flex #4. Dynasty bring on 2010!!!

ETA: I think Patrick Crayton is nearly a mortal lock to be a startable WR#3. He'll be the WR#2 on the Cowboys, the third option for Romo but one he is pretty comfortable with.

 
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Justin Gage has been a pretty good player for 2 seasons now. In 2007 he had 750 yards as a part-time starter. Last season if he didn't have the knee injury he would have had a breakout season. He averaged over 50 yards per game, over 19 yards per reception, and had 6 touchdowns. Even though the Titans lost the playoff game to the Ravens, Justin Gage did his part with 10 catches and 130 yards.

He's 28 which isn't old but isn't young either and he plays on a Titans team which can be conservative on offense. I think they'll have to throw more though because the defense won't be as good without Haynesworth. If he stays healthy I have little doubt that Justin Gage will be a good pick for fantasy teams.

 
evilempire said:
Of the guys on that list, the only ones I like a lot are Nate Washington and Moose Muhammad.

Washington will be the No. 1 target in Tennessee, and they'll try to get him the ball in a lot of different ways -- screens, hitches, downfield. He's easily the most talented guy they have and could have a good year.

Muhammad is still chugging along, and he's a reliable red zone target and possession receiver whom Delhomme trusts a lot.
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:hot: Washington is certainly not the top option in TN. Maybe he'll break out but for targets, he's behind Gage, Scaife, probably CJ and maybe even Cook soon.
 
The Man with the Plan said:
Justin Gage has been a pretty good player for 2 seasons now. In 2007 he had 750 yards as a part-time starter. Last season if he didn't have the knee injury he would have had a breakout season. He averaged over 50 yards per game, over 19 yards per reception, and had 6 touchdowns. Even though the Titans lost the playoff game to the Ravens, Justin Gage did his part with 10 catches and 130 yards. He's 28 which isn't old but isn't young either and he plays on a Titans team which can be conservative on offense. I think they'll have to throw more though because the defense won't be as good without Haynesworth. If he stays healthy I have little doubt that Justin Gage will be a good pick for fantasy teams.
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I like Gage as well but I don't know that I'd be comfortable starting a TEN WR as my WR3 each week. He'll have some good games but in that run-heavy offense he'll have more than his share of 3-35 games. There's little doubt IMO that he'll be the #1 WR in TEN though.
 
Mainevent said:
Laurent Robinson isn't mentioned in the list. I like him to possibly crack the top 35 WRs this year. Avery is out till game one of the season, Robinson has already passed Burton on the depth chart, and the preseason reps with the first team as #1 target will only make him better.
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Do you have a link for this? I haven't heard he's officially the #2 WR starting opposite Avery.
 
Clowney, 77

Just like last year, he lit it up in last night's preseason game. Clowney was the leading reciever on the Jets last year in preseason, then got hurt. When he got healthy, for some reason Mangini never gave him a chance, something many pundits questioned last year.

Look for Clowney to start opposite Cotchery as the deep threat, with Stuckey going to the slot. Clowney is a burner and has good hands, most of the time.

Even though Ryan wants a run oriented offense, if Sanchez wins the starting job, he has the arm to hit the deep pass and OC Schotty will not let that talent go to waste. Ryan did not keep the last regime's OC just to run the ball, he'll let Schottenheimer do his thing without handcuffs the way Mangini did. Missing 3 starters from the O line last night didn't help the running game any, but if anything can be taken from last night's game is that the Jet offense has some weapons, not the least of which is Dustin Keller, grossly under utilized last year.

 
I watched the Raiders preseason game Thursday night, and Schilens goes to the top of the list. He is the main man in Oakland, the guy Russell is looking for nearly every time. I predict this guy will have a huge year and if you can get him, he'll be one of the big steals in the draft.

 
stevegamer said:
I like the following:

Muhsin Muhammad CAR WR 53 - yeah he's old, but for this year only, he's got a shot. In the last 6 years, he's been worse than WR37 once. Last year he was WR26.

Nate Burleson SEA WR 58 - I'd expect him to start opposite Housh, and I don't think Branch will tay healthy. Hass & the OL being healthy should help.

Greg Camarillo MIA WR 66 or Davone Bess MIA WR 70 - If one of these guys seizes a starting job, they could get there. Both showed some skills last year, but they may cancel each other out.

Chaz Schilens OAK WR 75 - I think he's going to be the #1 WR in Oakland.
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Schilens IS the #1 Oak WR- and in most Mock Drafts he's not being taken

the last two games of 2008 this is what he did-

16. HOU W 27-16 3-52 1 TD

17. @TB W 31-24 3-46 1 TD

Schilens had 5 catches for 52 yds against Dallas - Jamarcus Russell targeted him 5 times in Oakland's

first two drives. Can we say Schilens has become Russell's 'go-to guy' ?

 
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ceo3west said:
The Man with the Plan said:
Justin Gage has been a pretty good player for 2 seasons now. In 2007 he had 750 yards as a part-time starter. Last season if he didn't have the knee injury he would have had a breakout season. He averaged over 50 yards per game, over 19 yards per reception, and had 6 touchdowns. Even though the Titans lost the playoff game to the Ravens, Justin Gage did his part with 10 catches and 130 yards. He's 28 which isn't old but isn't young either and he plays on a Titans team which can be conservative on offense. I think they'll have to throw more though because the defense won't be as good without Haynesworth. If he stays healthy I have little doubt that Justin Gage will be a good pick for fantasy teams.
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I like Gage as well but I don't know that I'd be comfortable starting a TEN WR as my WR3 each week. He'll have some good games but in that run-heavy offense he'll have more than his share of 3-35 games. There's little doubt IMO that he'll be the #1 WR in TEN though.
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I agree with this. Gage is a good player to have in really deep leagues but as a WR3? I'd pass. He is my WR5/6 in one league and I'm comfortable with him there.
 
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inzanitee said:
Mainevent said:
Laurent Robinson isn't mentioned in the list. I like him to possibly crack the top 35 WRs this year. Avery is out till game one of the season, Robinson has already passed Burton on the depth chart, and the preseason reps with the first team as #1 target will only make him better.
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Do you have a link for this? I haven't heard he's officially the #2 WR starting opposite Avery.
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Laurent Robinson-WR- Rams Aug. 14 - 9:22 pm et Laurent Robinson caught two passes for 52 yards in the Rams preseason opener against the Jets.

Robinson and Keenan Burton started, though Burton was invisible. Robinson made an impressive play on a 50-yard bomb and has the early lead on the race to keep the starting job when Donnie Avery returns.

Laurent Robinson-WR - Rams Aug. 10 - 5:42 pm et

As expected, the Rams listed Laurent Robinson ahead of Keenan Burton on their initial preseason depth chart.

Burton is directly behind Robinson, with Derek Stanley behind Donnie Avery at split end. Ronald Curry, rookie Brooks Foster, and Tim Carter all are bunched together on the third team. Robinson is someone to start seriously considering late in drafts. He appears to have a firm hold on a starting job.Source: stlouisrams.com

 
in PPR, Bess will be a monster. He averaged nearly 12 PPG after he took over the starting line-up without scoring. Not sure I'd go crazy and say top 20, but easily top 35 as long as he holds of Camarillo. He should get in the EZ with more opportunities

 
ceo3west said:
Every year there are guys drafted outside the top 50 WR's who become a legit #3 or better in a 12 team league. Let's find those guys this year; here is the list along with my picks to possibly break into the top 35:

Justin Gage TEN WR 51

Patrick Crayton DAL WR 52

Muhsin Muhammad CAR WR 53

Miles Austin DAL WR 54

Deion Branch SEA WR 55

Nate Washington TEN WR 56

Earl Bennett CHI WR 57

Nate Burleson SEA WR 58

Michael Jenkins ATL WR 59

Joey Galloway NE WR 60

Brian Robiskie CLE WR 61

Darrius Heyward-Bey OAK WR 62

Isaac Bruce SF WR 63

Sidney Rice MIN WR 64

Bobby Engram KC WR 65

Greg Camarillo MIA WR 66

Plaxico Burress WR 67

Mark Bradley KC WR 68

Devery Henderson NO WR 69

Davone Bess MIA WR 70

Robert Meachem NO WR 71

Mike Walker JAX WR 72

Jordy Nelson GB WR 73

Devin Thomas WAS WR 74

Chaz Schilens OAK WR 75

Demetrius Williams BAL WR 76

David Clowney NYJ WR 77

Johnnie Lee Higgins OAK WR 78

Antwaan Randle El WAS WR 79

Earl Bennett CHI WR 57 - While Bennett is a rookie, he has Cutler throwing to him and they have a history together from Vandy. And count me in as one who is skeptical of Hester as being a true WR1 in the NFL. Hester could break out with Cutler throwing to him, but I think it's just as likely that Bennett ends up with as good or better numbers.

Mark Bradley KC WR 68 - This is a gut call; I have a good feeling about the KC offense this year. And while Bowe will get his, I think Bradley will be the biggest beneficiary of Gonzo being gone. Not to mention KC will be throwing a lot this year in their new offense.

Devery Henderson NO WR 69 - I'll let everyone else buy the hype on Lance Moore, then I'll take NO's #2 WR in the late rounds. Henderson should have a solid year and will be especially valuable in best ball.

Mike Walker JAX WR 72 - Don't sleep on this guy. Look for Garrard to have a solid season, and Walker will be a big reason for it. I think Holt will bounce back, but I think Walker could end up with better numbers. He'll be a top 30 WR in 2010 drafts IMO.

Who do you like to break the top 35 and why?
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Good exercise. I'll go with Bennett, Schilens, Walker, Bruce, Robiskie, Burleson. Definitely targeting Schilens and Burleson late in all drafts. I think Seattle passing game will rally. No faith in Branch, and not massively high on TJ this year in a new offense, and as the true #1 for the first time. Schilens seems to be emerging as the only reliable WR for Oakland, although I like Zach Miller to see a lot of balls, as well as RB dumps - even McFadden out wide.

DHB can't catch and is nicked. Javon is a mess as usual. Somebody has to catch it. That said, I think all 6 of the guys I listed have a decent shot at top 35, but I don't foresee any top 20 miracle finishes. Nice to get a probably WR4 and possible WR3 in last pick territory though.

 
No love for Clowney? IF he stays healthy, he will kill his ADP.... think Lee Evans but much more consistant, IF Sanchez wins the starting job. :kicksrock:

 
jaybaer said:
DHB can't catch and is nicked. Javon is a mess as usual. Somebody has to catch it. That said, I think all 6 of the guys I listed have a decent shot at top 35, but I don't foresee any top 20 miracle finishes. Nice to get a probably WR4 and possible WR3 in last pick territory though.
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actually, no they don't.
 
Moonlight_Graham said:
inzanitee said:
Mainevent said:
Laurent Robinson isn't mentioned in the list. I like him to possibly crack the top 35 WRs this year. Avery is out till game one of the season, Robinson has already passed Burton on the depth chart, and the preseason reps with the first team as #1 target will only make him better.
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Do you have a link for this? I haven't heard he's officially the #2 WR starting opposite Avery.
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Laurent Robinson-WR- Rams Aug. 14 - 9:22 pm et Laurent Robinson caught two passes for 52 yards in the Rams preseason opener against the Jets.

Robinson and Keenan Burton started, though Burton was invisible. Robinson made an impressive play on a 50-yard bomb and has the early lead on the race to keep the starting job when Donnie Avery returns.

Laurent Robinson-WR - Rams Aug. 10 - 5:42 pm et

As expected, the Rams listed Laurent Robinson ahead of Keenan Burton on their initial preseason depth chart.

Burton is directly behind Robinson, with Derek Stanley behind Donnie Avery at split end. Ronald Curry, rookie Brooks Foster, and Tim Carter all are bunched together on the third team. Robinson is someone to start seriously considering late in drafts. He appears to have a firm hold on a starting job.Source: stlouisrams.com
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:confused: that's what I had read
 
Bumping this. This is probably the #1 key thing I'm going to need to focus on for my keeper team - so keep the ideas coming.

 
Burleson is a no brainer IMO. The Hawks are going to have to pass if they are going to score.

Schillens also is way too low... #75? and a guy like Avery is ranked #35? I'll take Schillens 6 rounds later and get the same production.

 
I like D. Thomas and Bess this year. Actually trying to pick one of them up and drop Miles Austin. Having a hard time deciding.

 
Justin Gage TEN WR 51 Always like him when he was on the Bears, just stay healthy whole year

Patrick Crayton DAL WR 52 I dont buy into Roy Williams steping in and taking over

Earl Bennett CHI WR 57 Good early chemistry with Jay in Bourbonnais, teammates at Vandy

Nate Burleson SEA WR 58 Matt is back and so is Nate

Joey Galloway NE WR 60 Ageless veteran readies himself for championship run, 1 year removed from 1000+yard season

Brian Robiskie CLE WR 61 Big and no one else except for Braylon there, Josh Cribs is a very good returner, thats it

Isaac Bruce SF WR 63 Still produced 61 catches 835 yards and 7 tds for the 49ers,

Mark Bradley KC WR 68 Tricky one here with new QB

Davone Bess MIA WR 70 I like him a lot, Ginn too obviously

Robert Meachem NO WR 71 Not so high on him but great situation

Johnnie Lee Higgins OAK WR 78 Great if your league awards return yards, 3punt return td's 4 receiving td's in limited role, if they use this guy right he can go off.

Out of that whole list these are the guys i actually consider based on WR3 potential or better.

 
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