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Per the blogger.

RB Battle Brewing

Greg Hensley, Scout.com - Full Article

It was assumed that Cleveland Browns RB Reuben Droughns would start in 2006. But his recent arrest has thrown his starting status into limbo. The door is open for RB Lee Suggs and RB William Green to step in and take the spot.

 
Green isn't very good IMO and Suggs obviously can't stay healthy. As long as Droughns' off-field issues don't result in a suspension I think he'll be the starter without question.

 
Green isn't very good IMO and Suggs obviously can't stay healthy. As long as Droughns' off-field issues don't result in a suspension I think he'll be the starter without question.
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You speaketh the truth packersfan.
 
Shhh...what is that trampling noise? Oh, it is dynasty owners running to the free agent wire to pickup Will Green. The same noise will be heard in August when they return him.

 
I was just getting ready to post on this. First off, I really do not see any changes happening at the RB position. They already know that Suggs is unreliable health wise and Green has serious character question marks as well as health issues. Droughns is the best thing they've had in a few years. I would be shocked if this 1 problem knocks him from the starters role. If it does then I have to questioon what they'ree doing in Brownie land.

OTH-if the romors about the front office and their character expectations turn out to be true then changes could be looming. I just have my doubts that is the case. Even if Droughns did have a problem doesn't he get another chance or has Cleveland become the 1 and done Browns?

 
What about Jerome Harrison?

Should at least be in the mix as a 3rd down back
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I would like it to be harrison, but I see it, without Braylon, and Frye and winslow getting seriously seasoned, the Browns are top contenders for Lynch, or Peterson....
 
What about Jerome Harrison?

Should at least be in the mix as a 3rd down back
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And perhaps more. But more likely he is in the mix in the future. They seem to like him alot and he "could" be the next starter. But I'd be surprised if it happens before the next 2 years unless Droughns continues to have off the field problems.And I think he might be pretty good too!

 
I agree that I do not see Droughns being beat out, but I would like to see what Suggs could do with some regular carries. I understand that he gets hurt a lot, but broken bones are out of a persons control. It seems like he has fallen off the radar screen for most fantasy owners, but I think he might be amongst the best backup running backs in the league. It was only a year ago that he put up very respectable numbers, including 3 games of over 100 yards at the end of the 2004 season. It seems like he is snake bitten, because everytime he gets a chance to show what he can do something bad happens. In dynasty leagues you can get him on the cheap, and I still believe he has more talent than Kevin Jones although he may never get a chance to prove it.

 
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Green isn't very good IMO and Suggs obviously can't stay healthy. As long as Droughns' off-field issues don't result in a suspension I think he'll be the starter without question.
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:goodposting:
 
Hypothetical: What if Suggs does stay healthy and outperforms Droughns during camp? Will they not give him the job because they presume that he won't stay healthy?

 
Hypothetical: What if Suggs does stay healthy and outperforms Droughns during camp? Will they not give him the job because they presume that he won't stay healthy?
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Of course they won't presume that. As far as I know, Suggs is perfectly healthy.I think Droughns is the best RB on the roster; but none of the other guys can be completely counted out at this stage.

 
Hypothetical: What if Suggs does stay healthy and outperforms Droughns during camp?  Will they not give him the job because they presume that he won't stay healthy?
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Of course they won't presume that. As far as I know, Suggs is perfectly healthy.I think Droughns is the best RB on the roster; but none of the other guys can be completely counted out at this stage.
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I agree. Just seems like everyone is saying there's no way Suggs could get the job because he can't stay healthy.
 
It was a given a few weeks ago that Droughns would be the starting running back in 2006. This might no longer be the case, however, due to his recent arrest following a domestic dispute. If convicted of the charges and given jail time, he probably will be suspended by the National Football League.
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This seems extremely unlikely. Sounds like a beat writer trying to stir up some controversy during the slow months.
 
"Transparent scare/motivation tactic being utilized in Cleveland."
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By who? The writer? This is his opinion. Not that of anyone from the Browns. Read this quote:
It was a given a few weeks ago that Droughns would be the starting running back in 2006. This might no longer be the case, however, due to his recent arrest following a domestic dispute. If convicted of the charges and given jail time, he probably will be suspended by the National Football League.
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I bolded the part of the sentence that says "might" because he is just speculating and rightfully so under the curcumstances. I doubt anyone is scared by his opinion.
 
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"Transparent scare/motivation tactic being utilized in Cleveland."
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BS... Cleveland is about character now. While Green has had trouble in the past he hasn't caused problems under this admin. When you put yourself at risk you put your team at risk and you are not a team player. I think Droughns will probably start but Savage, Crennel and co. will not tolerate the players issues.
 
This was exactly the type of situation General Manager Phil Savage and coach Romeo Crennel wanted to avoid with the overhaul of the roster. The word "character" is something the new regime takes seriously. It wants a team that is truly representative of the City of Cleveland.

I actually think that a domestic violence charge represents the city of Cleveland pretty good. :D

 
I agree Droughns will be the #1. However, a healthy Suggs really helps the Browns! Imagine both of them in the same backfield as well as spelling each other. When healthy, both are very good. Talk about taking pressure off Frye and opening up the passing game.

 
I actually think that a domestic violence charge represents the city of Cleveland pretty good. :D
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Don't forget about his previous DUI charge.A Druken Wife Beater is definitely representative of Cleveland. :lmao:

 
I heard that Green is the clear backup right now. And there was speculation that Suggs maybe traded at some point this offseason. I see not one shread of evidence that says Suggs is next in line. Bottom line is either could be next in line and currently Green is ahead.

 
A Druken Wife Beater is definitely representative of Cleveland. :lmao:
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In every country, there is a city that everybody makes fun of. For example, when I lived in Russia, we all used to make fun of Cleveland.[/Yakov Smirnoff]

 
"Transparent scare/motivation tactic being utilized in Cleveland."
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By who? The writer? This is his opinion. Not that of anyone from the Browns. Read this quote:
It was a given a few weeks ago that Droughns would be the starting running back in 2006. This might no longer be the case, however, due to his recent arrest following a domestic dispute. If convicted of the charges and given jail time, he probably will be suspended by the National Football League.
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I bolded the part of the sentence that says "might" because he is just speculating and rightfully so under the curcumstances. I doubt anyone is scared by his opinion.
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FYI- As I'm sure you are probably aware Savage has been quoted a couple times recently commenting on Suggs/Green over the past 2-3 weeks. I believe one such article was recapped by KFFL as "Door open of Suggs/Green" and went on to quote Savage that other RBs may get an opening due to the Droughs situation. I may very well may be wrong but Cleveland is simply too committed to Droughns not to use him, and my own sense is these repeated quotes (including opinions from team sites, which often present spoon fed team opinions as their own) are lip service to scare Droughns straight. I'll be the first to admit I'm wrong if/when they cut Droughns or give any other RB on that roster a legit opportunity to unseat Droughns in spite of the contract they gave him. Not exactly holding my breath, however...
 
As the blog suggests I think either Green or Suggs will be cut by the start of the year.

Droughens should remain the starter, yielding 3rd downs and change of pace to Jerome Harrison, and which ever of Green or Suggs makes the roster, falls to number 3 on the depth chart.

 
As the blog suggests I think either Green or Suggs will be cut by the start of the year.

Droughens should remain the starter, yielding 3rd downs and change of pace to Jerome Harrison, and which ever of Green or Suggs makes the roster, falls to number 3 on the depth chart.
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I dont think Green or Suggs will be cut first of all and i didn't see that implied anywhere in the blog.. Suggs may be in a different uniform come the season's start, but only if he gets traded for a low draft pick.. Green has reformed his "character" issues that plagued him early in his career by being ok with being a backup. He's a solid back when healthy, not great in any aspect, but solid.It just seems like all of the talk about an open door is idle threats to try and scare Droughns straight, like was mentioned before.. He has the starting job as he is the most reliable and talented back on the roster. Harrison is a bit of a project and will see ST work and rare spot duty (unless suggs is traded then harrison will take some of the passing downs)

my :2cents:

 
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Name the last 2 RBs for Cle to rush for more than 1k yards in a season
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Mack and Byner in the same year.I think it's all a ploy to get the spotlight on Suggs or Green and trade them for more than they are worth to make room for Harrison.

 
Per the blogger.

RB Battle Brewing

Greg Hensley, Scout.com - Full Article

It was assumed that Cleveland Browns RB Reuben Droughns would start in 2006. But his recent arrest has thrown his starting status into limbo. The door is open for RB Lee Suggs and RB William Green to step in and take the spot.
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I'd like to see a Romeo quote that it's an open competition moreso than Greg's opinion. He also seemed to think Harrison had a shot at starting and....gimme a starter! 4 RBs? I have enjoyed reading Greg's stuff in the past but I think he should have put his foot down at some point in this article.
 
Droughns down the stretch last year:

vs. PIT - 3.3 YPC

vs. MIA - 5.5 YPC

vs. MIN - 3.8 YPC

vs. JAC - 2.9 YPC

vs. CIN - 3.5 YPC

vs. OAK - 2.9 YPC

vs. PIT - 3.6 YPC

vs. BAL - 2.1 YPC

That doesn't exactly inspire confidence. Over his last 8 starts, he averaged a mediocre 3.6 YPC. If you take a closer look at his game log, his 100 yard games came against patsies Detroit, Tennessee, and Miami (he also had a 99 yard game against Houston).

It's premature to assume that he won't be starting next year, but I'd hardly call him rock solid. I'd definitely avoid him in dynasty leagues and would be wary in redrafts.

People knock William Green, but he could very well be the better player.

 
If Green and/or Suggs were RB1 material it would have happened by now.
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Would it have? Butch Davis couldn't coach his way out of a paper bag and that team had absolutely no weapons on offense. Those guys were running behind a junk line into a brick wall. They never had a chance. Obviously they didn't help themselves with their character issues or their injuries, but it's premature to bury them.

 
Curious what the replies will be.

Romeo had Suggs, Green, and Droughns last year. He deemed Droughns "the man". Why do you think if there's a RB competition the results will be different this year?

 
Curious what the replies will be.

Romeo had Suggs, Green, and Droughns last year. He deemed Droughns "the man". Why do you think if there's a RB competition the results will be different this year?
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They probably won't, but I do think Droughns is a bigger risk than most people are making him out to be.
 
Droughns down the stretch last year:

vs. PIT - 3.3 YPC

vs. MIA - 5.5 YPC

vs. MIN - 3.8 YPC

vs. JAC - 2.9 YPC

vs. CIN - 3.5 YPC

vs. OAK - 2.9 YPC

vs. PIT - 3.6 YPC

vs. BAL - 2.1 YPC

That doesn't exactly inspire confidence. Over his last 8 starts, he averaged a mediocre 3.6 YPC. If you take a closer look at his game log, his 100 yard games came against patsies Detroit, Tennessee, and Miami (he also had a 99 yard game against Houston).

It's premature to assume that he won't be starting next year, but I'd hardly call him rock solid. I'd definitely avoid him in dynasty leagues and would be wary in redrafts.

People knock William Green, but he could very well be the better player.
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having 8+ in the box constantly didn't help his cause.. After Edwards went down, there was no reason to have anything besides 1 on 1 coverage on the receivers.. That being the reason that Bryant broke the 1000 yard mark.. The o-line was in shambles after the midway point, no viable receivers, rookie QB, no viable TE... everything this year is better on offense.. Bryant leaving can be outweighed with JoeJ.. Edwards will be back in early october.. Winslow seems to have gotten past his childish motorcycle crashing ways, Frye has experience, o-line is improved.. Defense has improved..

In no way do i see the browns being a top team or anything, but given the situation, it just seems the run game is bound to improve. With Droughns being the only respectable RB (statwise) since the browns returned to the league, and even predating that some..

I do agree that William Green definately does have more talent then almost anyone give him credit for.

 
Curious what the replies will be.

Romeo had Suggs, Green, and Droughns last year. He deemed Droughns "the man". Why do you think if there's a RB competition the results will be different this year?
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:hey: Well, Alex I'll take Suggs is healthy for $500
 
Curious what the replies will be.

Romeo had Suggs, Green, and Droughns last year. He deemed Droughns "the man". Why do you think if there's a RB competition the results will be different this year?
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:hey: Well, Alex I'll take Suggs is healthy for $500
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I would rather take, Suggs has been healthy entering the last 2 seasons as well, for $1000 Alex.. :D
 
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Curious what the replies will be.

Romeo had Suggs, Green, and Droughns last year. He deemed Droughns "the man". Why do you think if there's a RB competition the results will be different this year?
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:hey: Well, Alex I'll take Suggs is healthy for $500
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I would rather take, Suggs has been healthy entering the last 2 seasons as well, for $1000 Alex.. :D
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I thought he was hurt two years back and then again preseason last year? :D
 
Curious what the replies will be.

Romeo had Suggs, Green, and Droughns last year. He deemed Droughns "the man". Why do you think if there's a RB competition the results will be different this year?
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:hey: Well, Alex I'll take Suggs is healthy for $500
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I would rather take, Suggs has been healthy entering the last 2 seasons as well, for $1000 Alex.. :D
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I thought he was hurt two years back and then again preseason last year? :D
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ill have to look into it again, but from recollection alone, im pretty sure he's been healthy entering his last 2 seasons.. when he got his opportunity to play is when his injuries occured :wall:
 
Per the blogger.

RB Battle Brewing

Greg Hensley, Scout.com - Full Article

It was assumed that Cleveland Browns RB Reuben Droughns would start in 2006. But his recent arrest has thrown his starting status into limbo. The door is open for RB Lee Suggs and RB William Green to step in and take the spot.
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the same door was open last year..only thing that will change anything ehre is if Drougns gets suspended.
 
ill have to look into it again, but from recollection alone, im pretty sure he's been healthy entering his last 2 seasons.. when he got his opportunity to play is when his injuries occured :wall:
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Yes you definitely might want to look into that again.Suggs has gone down with injury before the season has started, two years in a row now.

I'm expecting he achieves the trifecta this year.

 
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