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ConstruxBoy Contest - QB Thread (1 Viewer)

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ConstruxBoy

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I am running a contest to see who can rank the top 20 players at each position closest to the year end top 20 players rank. The person who ranks the players closest to their actual year end ranking will win $5 from me via Paypal or check. I will also average all the ranking that are posted here and determine how close the average is to the actual year end ranking. If the winner is closer to the actual ranking than the average, I'll double the prize and you'll win $10.

Here are the rules:

1) There will be a thread and prizes for each of 6 positions: QB, RB, WR, TE, PK, DEF/ST.

2) Scoring is simple: 1 pt per 20 yards passing, 1 pt per 10 yards rushing/receiving, 6 pts for TDs, 3 pts for FGs, 1 pt for XPs, 2 points for Fumble Recovery, INT, and Safety. 1 point for Sacks.

3) List your top 20 players in order for each of the positions by their predicted end of year fantasy point rank. The actual number of fantasy points you predict for each player DOES NOT matter. Just their rank. List the players by their first initial, last name and team. If there is any doubt, use a full name. If you enter R. Williams in the WR thread, I'm not going to figure out whether you mean Roy, Reggie or Roydell. I'll just skip it.

4) When doing the comparison, lowest difference total wins. Each player that you rank will be reviewed and compared to the year end ranking and the average ranking. Each slot you are off will equate to that number of "points". So if you predict that Peyton Manning will be the number 1 ranked QB and he actually finishes as the number 3 ranked QB, you gain 2 points. You predict that Donovan McNabb finishes as the 2nd ranked QB and he actually finishes 15th. That is 13 more points. And so on down your 20 players. I will compare your list to a top 4o list at year end. OK, here's the solution. I will compare your top 20 list with the top 40 at year end. The maximum number of points you can get is 20. So if your #1 ranked QB finishes the year at 39th, you still get 20 points, not 38. But if your 19th ranked QB finishes at 23rd, you get 4 points. I want to reward folks for being close, but not punish them too much for a season ending injury to a top player. The lowest point total wins.

5) In case of a tie for lowest point total, the EARLIEST final edit is the winner. For example, BassNBrew and H.K. both have 61 points. Bass entered his ranking on August 21st and then edited it on September 7th. H.K. entered his ranking on September 4th. H.K. would win (however unlikely that is to believe, ;) )

6) Enjoy.

Knew I forgot something: Thread is locked at 8PM EST on Thursday, September 7th.

 
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Wow...no entries? :eek:

Heres my shot. Given the yearly turnover of QB rankings this, IMHO, is my version of educated guessing. However, this year in particular seems more complex than any other to read, but hey, why not give it a shot?

1.) P. Manning

2.) T. Brady

3.) E. Manning

4.) M. Hasselbeck

5.) D. Bledsoe

6.) M. Vick

7.) J. Delmomme

8.) M. Bulger

9.) C. Palmer

10.) J. Plummer

11.) D. Culpepper

12.) B. Leftwich

13.) B. Favre

14.) B. Roethlisberger

15.) D. McNabb

16.) D. Carr

17.) S. McNair

18.) M. Brunell

19.) D. Brees

20.) K. Warner

Yep. Thats McNabb at #15, and no Trent Green. We'll just have to see who's right (lucky :unsure: ) about this.

 
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4) When doing the comparison, lowest difference total wins. Each player that you rank will be reviewed and compared to the year end ranking and the average ranking. Each slot you are off will equate to that number of "points". So if you predict that Peyton Manning will be the number 1 ranked QB and he actually finishes as the number 3 ranked QB, you gain 2 points. You predict that Donovan McNabb finishes as the 2nd ranked QB and he actually finishes 15th. That is 13 more points. And so on down your 20 players. Any player not in the Top 20 will be considered 21st. The lowest point total wins.
Love the idea, I'll have to work on this at the office tomorrow.However, I have a question regarding the bolded part above. Let's say the guy I pegged to be 20th overall ends up 40th. He will be considered 21st, and so I only get one point for that...

Let's say my competitor lists D. Carr at 18th but Carr actually ends up 20th. He gets two points for that. So he gets 2 pts for being off by two, I get 1 point for being off by twenty? Doesn't seem fair. Am I reading that wrong?

 
tomarken said:
4) When doing the comparison, lowest difference total wins. Each player that you rank will be reviewed and compared to the year end ranking and the average ranking. Each slot you are off will equate to that number of "points". So if you predict that Peyton Manning will be the number 1 ranked QB and he actually finishes as the number 3 ranked QB, you gain 2 points. You predict that Donovan McNabb finishes as the 2nd ranked QB and he actually finishes 15th. That is 13 more points. And so on down your 20 players. Any player not in the Top 20 will be considered 21st. The lowest point total wins.
Love the idea, I'll have to work on this at the office tomorrow.However, I have a question regarding the bolded part above. Let's say the guy I pegged to be 20th overall ends up 40th. He will be considered 21st, and so I only get one point for that...

Let's say my competitor lists D. Carr at 18th but Carr actually ends up 20th. He gets two points for that. So he gets 2 pts for being off by two, I get 1 point for being off by twenty? Doesn't seem fair. Am I reading that wrong?
I think he's saying if you don't list Philip Rivers and he ranks 1st, you'd get 20 points for that (21 minus 1).
 
1. Peyton Manning

2. Tom Brady

3. Donovon McNabb

4. Matt Hasslebeck

5. Aaron Brooks

6. Drew Bledsoe

7. Carson Palmer

8. Daunte Culepper

9. Jake Delhomme

10. Micheal Vick

11. Eli Manning

12. Kurt Warner

13. Marc Bulger

14. Drew Brees

15. Trent Green

16. Jake Plummer

17. Steve McNair

18. Phillip Rivers

19. Ben Roethlisberger

20. Rex Grossman

 
tomarken said:
4) When doing the comparison, lowest difference total wins. Each player that you rank will be reviewed and compared to the year end ranking and the average ranking. Each slot you are off will equate to that number of "points". So if you predict that Peyton Manning will be the number 1 ranked QB and he actually finishes as the number 3 ranked QB, you gain 2 points. You predict that Donovan McNabb finishes as the 2nd ranked QB and he actually finishes 15th. That is 13 more points. And so on down your 20 players. Any player not in the Top 20 will be considered 21st. The lowest point total wins.
Love the idea, I'll have to work on this at the office tomorrow.However, I have a question regarding the bolded part above. Let's say the guy I pegged to be 20th overall ends up 40th. He will be considered 21st, and so I only get one point for that...

Let's say my competitor lists D. Carr at 18th but Carr actually ends up 20th. He gets two points for that. So he gets 2 pts for being off by two, I get 1 point for being off by twenty? Doesn't seem fair. Am I reading that wrong?
I think he's saying if you don't list Philip Rivers and he ranks 1st, you'd get 20 points for that (21 minus 1).
OK, but that still doesn't seem entirely fair, for the same reasons listed above (just working in the opposite direction):Player A ranks Philip Rivers 13th. He finishes 1st. Player A gets 12 points.

Player B does not rank Steve McNair in his top 20 at all, because he thinks McNair will be terrible and won't even finish in the top 40. McNair finishes 10th. Player B gets 11 points.

That of course is a lot more subjective, since we're not ranking anyone past #20, but you get the idea.

Anyway, even if we ignore that case, it still doesn't answer the question of how my first scenario would be scored. If I rank a guy 20th, and he ends up 40th, do I get 20 points or just 1?

Sorry, not trying to nitpick, just want to make sure I understand the rules. :)

 
1. P. Manning

2. Hasselbeck

3. Palmer

4. Brady

5. Big Ben

6. Delhomme

7. Favre

8. Bledsoe

9. Plummer

10. McNair

11. Culpepper

12. Warner

13. Bulger

14. E. Manning

15. McNabb

16. Lefty

17. Rivers

18. A. Brooks

19. Green

20. Vick

 
tomarken said:
4) When doing the comparison, lowest difference total wins. Each player that you rank will be reviewed and compared to the year end ranking and the average ranking. Each slot you are off will equate to that number of "points". So if you predict that Peyton Manning will be the number 1 ranked QB and he actually finishes as the number 3 ranked QB, you gain 2 points. You predict that Donovan McNabb finishes as the 2nd ranked QB and he actually finishes 15th. That is 13 more points. And so on down your 20 players. Any player not in the Top 20 will be considered 21st. The lowest point total wins.
Love the idea, I'll have to work on this at the office tomorrow.However, I have a question regarding the bolded part above. Let's say the guy I pegged to be 20th overall ends up 40th. He will be considered 21st, and so I only get one point for that...

Let's say my competitor lists D. Carr at 18th but Carr actually ends up 20th. He gets two points for that. So he gets 2 pts for being off by two, I get 1 point for being off by twenty? Doesn't seem fair. Am I reading that wrong?
I think he's saying if you don't list Philip Rivers and he ranks 1st, you'd get 20 points for that (21 minus 1).
OK, but that still doesn't seem entirely fair, for the same reasons listed above (just working in the opposite direction):Player A ranks Philip Rivers 13th. He finishes 1st. Player A gets 12 points.

Player B does not rank Steve McNair in his top 20 at all, because he thinks McNair will be terrible and won't even finish in the top 40. McNair finishes 10th. Player B gets 11 points.

That of course is a lot more subjective, since we're not ranking anyone past #20, but you get the idea.

Anyway, even if we ignore that case, it still doesn't answer the question of how my first scenario would be scored. If I rank a guy 20th, and he ends up 40th, do I get 20 points or just 1?

Sorry, not trying to nitpick, just want to make sure I understand the rules. :)
No, you're correct. There is an issue there. When I wrote of the anyone outside the list is considered 21st, I was thinking of scoring this a different way. Let me think about it a minute.
 
Here are my QB's...

1 - P. Manning

2 - K. Warner

3 - A. Brooks

4 - M. Bulger

5 - M. Hasselbeck

6 - C. Palmer

7 - T. Brady

8 - J. Plummer

9 - M. Vick

10 - J. Delhomme

11 - D. Culpepper

12 - E. Manning

13 - D. Bledsoe

14 - D. McNabb

15 - T. Green

16 - D. Carr

17 - B. Leftwich

18 - B. Favre

19 - B. Volek

20 - M. Brunell

 
OK, here's the solution. I will compare your top 20 list with the top 40 at year end. The maximum number of points you can get is 20. So if your #1 ranked QB finishes the year at 39th, you still get 20 points, not 38. But if your 19th ranked QB finishes at 23rd, you get 4 points. I want to reward folks for being close, but not punish them too much for a season ending injury to a top player.

 
ConstruxBoy said:
H.K. would win (however unlikely that is to believe, ;)
You drastically under-estimate me. I have seen through your veiled attempt to get me to post my rankings prior to the draft by starting these threads. (You even went so far as to try and bait me into the process, which was a nice touch. :thumbup: )However, I am far too cunning to be lured into this type of ruse. I will see you on the 27th, then you can find out what is going on in my warped, maniacal brain....but not a moment before then. For now, I must focus all my energy on defending my title. Good day, sir. ;)
 
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ConstruxBoy said:
H.K. would win (however unlikely that is to believe, ;)
You drastically under-estimate me. I have seen through your veiled attempt to get me to post my rankings prior to the draft by starting these threads. (You even went so far as to try and bait me into the process, which was a nice touch. :thumbup: )However, I am far too cunning to be lured into this type of ruse. I will see you on the 27th, then you can find out what is going on in my warped, maniacal brain....but not a moment before then. For now, I must focus all my energy on defending my title. Good day, sir. ;)
Curses, foiled again!
 
1 P. Manning

2 Hasselbeck

3 A. Brooks

4 Palmer

5 Favre

6 Delhomme

7 Plummer

8 Culpepper

9 Bledsoe

10 E. Manning

11 Brady

12 Vick

13 McNair

14 McNabb

15 Rivers

16 Warner

17 Bulger

18 Green

19 Brees

20 Kitna

 
Manning Peyton Ind

Brady Tom NE

Manning Eli NYG

McNabb Donovan Phi

Green Trent KC

Hasselbeck Matt Sea

Bledsoe Drew Dal

Delhomme Jake Car

Brooks Aaron Oak

Palmer Carson Cin

Bulger Marc StL

Plummer Jake Den

Vick Michael Atl

Favre Brett GB

Brees Drew NO

Warner Kurt Ari

McNair Steve Bal

Kitna Jon Det

Leftwich Byron Jac

Culpepper Daunte Mia

 
1. C. Palmer

2. P. Manning

3. M. Hassy

4. Brady

5. Plummer

6. McNabb

7. A. Brooks

8. T. Green

9. E. Manning

10. Kitna

11. Vick

12. Cpep

13. Bulger

14. Bledsoe

15. Roethlisburger

16. B.Johnson

17. C. Simms

18. Warner

19. Lefty

20. Brunnell

 
Manning (IND)

McNabb (PHI)

Brady (NE)

Hasselbeck (SEA)

Palmer (CIN)

Bulger (STL)

Culpepper (MIA)

Plummer (DEN)

Roethlisberger (PIT)

Manning (NYG)

Vick (ATL)

Warner (ARI)

Brunell (WAS)

Brees (NO)

Kitna (DET)

Green (KC)

Brooks (OAK)

Volek (TEN)

Bledsoe (DAL)

Rivers (SD)

 
1. Palmer

2. Culpepper

3. Hasselbeck

4. E.Manning

5. Delhomme

6. Brady

7. P.Manning

8. Plummer

9. Collins

10. Bulger

11. T.Green

12. McNair

13. Favre

14. Warner

15. Rivers

16. Brooks

17. Simms

18. Bledsoe

19. Brunell

20. Brees

 
1. Peyton Manning

2. Carson Palmer

3. Donovan McNabb

4. Tom Brady

5. Matt Hasselbeck

6. Eli Manning

7. Jake Plummer

8. Michael Vick

9. Jake Delhomme

10. Marc Bulger

11. Daunte Culpepper

12. Kurt Warner

13. Steve McNair

14. Chris Simms

15. Trent Green

16. Philip Rivers

17. Byron Leftwich

18. Aaron Brooks

19. Brett Favre

20. Drew Bledsoe

 
1. Manning,Peyton

2. Brady,Tom

3. McNabb,Donovan

4. Delhomme,Jake

5. Vick,Michael

6. Simms,Chris

7. Hasselbeck,Matt

8. Culpepper,Daunte

9. Bledsoe,Drew

10. Plummer,Jake

11. Bulger,Marc

12. Roethlisberger,Ben

13. Palmer,Carson

14. Brooks,Aaron

15. Warner,Kurt

16. Rivers,Philip

17. Manning,Eli

18. Brees,Drew

19. Leftwich,Byron

20. Johnson,Brad

 
1 Peyton Manning

2 Carson Palmer

3 Donovan McNabb

4 Daunte Culpepper

5 Tom Brady

6 Matt Hasselbeck

7 Jake Delhomme

8 Michael Vick

9 Aaron Brooks

10 Eli Manning

11 Marc Bulger

12 Jake Plummer

13 Drew Bledsoe

14 Chris Simms

15 Trent Green

16 Brett Favre

17 Philip Rivers

18 Jon Kitna

19 Byron Leftwich

20 Mark Brunell

 
1. P Manning

2. C Palmer

3. T Brady

4. M Hasselbeck

5. J Delhomme

6. D McNabb

7. M Bulger

8. D Culpepper

9. E Manning

10. A Brooks

11. T Green

12. K Warner

13. D Bledsoe

14. J Plummer

15. B Favre

16. C Simms

17. M Vick

18. J Kitna

19. P Rivers

20. B Leftwich

 
1. Peyton Manning

2. Matt Hasselbeck

3. Carson Palmer

4. Michael Vick

5. Donovan McNabb

6. Marc Bulger

7. Tom Brady

8. Jon Kitna

9. Jake Delhomme

10. Eli Manning

11. Chris Simms

12. Daunte Culpepper

13. Brett Favre

14. Jake Plummer

15. Drew Bledsoe

16. Alex Smith

17. Kurt Warner

18. Aaron Brooks

19. Trent Green

20. Byron Leftwich

 
1. PManning

2. McNabb

3. Palmer

4. Hasselbeck

5. Brady

6. Plummer

7. Bulger

8. EManning

9. Culpepper

10. Rivers

11. Delhomme

12. Bledsoe

13. Vick

14. Brunell

15. Brees

16. Brooks

17. Warner

18. Leftwich

19. McNair

20. Simms

 
1 Peyton Manning, IND

2 Carson Palmer, CIN

3 Tom Brady, NE

4 Donovan McNabb, PHI

5 Matt Hasselbeck, SEA

6 Daunte Culpepper, MIA

7 Jake Delhomme, CAR

8 Marc Bulger, STL

9 Michael Vick, ATL

10 Eli Manning, NYG

11 Jake Plummer, DEN

12 Trent Green, KC

13 Aaron Brooks, OAK

14 Drew Bledsoe, DAL

15 Steve McNair, BAL

16 Chris Simms, TB

17 Brett Favre, GB

18 Drew Brees, NO

19 Jon Kitna, DET

20 Philip Rivers, SD

 
1. Peyton Manning

2. Carson Palmer

3. Donovan McNabb

4. Brett Favre

5. Eli Manning

6. Jon Kitna

7. Daunte Culpepper

8. Marc Bulger

9. Tom Brady

10. Aaron Brooks

11. Matt Hasselbeck

12. Jake Delhomme

13. Chris Simms

14. Jake Plummer

15. Drew Bledsoe

16. Trent Green

17. Philip Rivers

18. Byron Leftwich

19. Michael Vick

20. David Carr

15.

 
1. Peyton Manning

2. Carson Palmer

3. Daunte Culpepper

4. Drew Bledsoe

5. Brett Favre

6. Eli Manning

7. Tom Brady

8. Marc Bulger

9. Matt hasselbeck

10. Donovan McNabb

11. Jake Plummer

12. Jake Delhomme

13. Steve McNair

14. Chris Simms

15. Trent Green

16. Jon Kitna

17. Michael Vick

18. Philip Rivers

19. Charlie Frye

20. Byron Leftwich

 
1. P.Manning

2. C.Palmer

3. T.Brady

4. D.mcnabb

5. M.Bulger

6. M.Vick

7. D.Culpepper

8. J.Delhomme

9. A.Brooks

10. J.Plummer

11. E.Manning

12. T.Green

13. B.Favre

14. D.Bledsoe

15. S.Mcnair

16. C.Simms

17. B.leftwich

18. D.Carr

19. B.Roethlisberger

20. K.Warner

 
1.Manning(IND)

2.Palmer(CIN)

3.McNabb(PHI)

4.Culpepper(MIA)

5.Brady(NE)

6.Vick(ATL)

7.Bulger(STL)

8.Manning(NYG)

9.Hasselbeck(SEA)

10.Green(KC)

11.Delhomme(CAR)

12.Favre(GB)

13.Plummer(DEN)

14.McNair(BAL)

15.Simms(TB)

16.Rivers(SD)

17.Brees(NO)

18.Leftwich(JAX)

19.Frye(CLE)

20.Smith(SF)

 
1. Palmer (Cinc)

2. Manning, P (Indy)

3. Hassellbeck (Sea)

4. Manning, E (NYG)

5. Brady, T (NE)

6. Culpepper (Mia)

7. Delhomme (Car)

8. Bulger (StL)

9. McNabb (Phil)

10. Warner (Ariz)

11. Plummer (Den)

12. Vick (Atl)

13. Kitna (Det)

14. Green T (KC)

15. Simms (TB)

16. Brooks (Oak)

17. Bledsoe (Dal)

18. Favre (GB)

19. McNair (Bal)

20. Roethlisberger (Pit)

 
1 Peyton Manning

2 Carson Palmer

3 Donovan McNabb

4 Matt Hasselbeck

5 Eli Manning

6 Jake Delhomme

7 Marc Bulger

8 Daunte Culpepper

9 Michael Vick

10 Tom Brady

11 Drew Bledsoe

12 Trent Green

13 Jake Plummer

14 Brett Favre

15 Aaron Brooks

16 Steve McNair

17 Ben Roethlisberger

18 Drew Brees

19 Jon Kitna

20 David Carr

 
1 Carolina

2 Chicago

3 Pittsburgh

4 Indianapolis

5 Seattle

6 Baltimore

7 NY Giants

8 Washington

9 Miami

10 Cincinnati

11 Atlanta

12 Tampa Bay

13 Minnesota

14 Jacksonville

15 Buffalo

16 Arizona

17 Detroit

18 Philadelphia

19 St. Louis

20 Kansas City

 
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1. Peyton Manning

2. Tom Brady

3. Carson Palmer

4. Matt Hasselbeck

5. Donovan McNabb

6. Mark Bulger

7. Chris Simms

8. Eli Manning

9. Trent Green

10. Philip Rivers

11. Ben Roethlisberger

12. Drew Bledsoe

13. Brett Favre

14. Jake Plummer

15. Jake Delhomme

17. Daunte Culpepper

18. Aaron Brooks

19. Steve McNair

20. Kurt Warner

 
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