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All aboard the Maurice Drew bandwagon! (1 Viewer)

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I know LHUCKS and I are all over him.

I own him in all 3 dynasty leagues I'm in, and am thinking I can steal him in redrafts late.

Get these drafts started early so you can snag him late before news spreads.

Consider this a gift.

 
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Im on board. I am really hoping to draft him at pick 1.12 in the MOX I rookie draft this coming weekend. I am sure he will fall to 12.

 
Im on board. I am really hoping to draft him at pick 1.12 in the MOX I rookie draft this coming weekend. I am sure he will fall to 12.
Should fall to 12. Thats where I landed him and it was a bit early even there. Turned down Vince Young as a Peyton owner.
 
I know LHUCKS and I are all over him.

I own him in all 3 dynasty leagues I'm in, and am thinking I can steal him in redrafts late.

Get these drafts started early so you can snag him late before news spreads.

Consider this a gift.
Definitely called it before you. :yes:
 
I know LHUCKS and I are all over him.

I own him in all 3 dynasty leagues I'm in, and am thinking I can steal him in redrafts late.

Get these drafts started early so you can snag him late before news spreads.

Consider this a gift.
Definitely called it before you. :yes:
Don't care to be first, just to be right. LHUCKS is right on the money. oh and thanks for the contribution. I've been waiting for you to contribute to these boards for quite some time now.. :lmao:

just jokes. I really enjoy your content around here!

 
Don't care to be first, just to be right. LHUCKS is right on the money.

oh and thanks for the contribution. I've been waiting for you to contribute to these boards for quite some time now.. :lmao:

just jokes. I really enjoy your content around here!
Yeah, I think the real question is when is he going to start?I thought for sure he'd start the season, but this talk of Taylor being in the best shape of his life makes me want to temper my expectations. Of course, he's already hurt... so who knows.

I'm just going to pick him late as usual and watch TC unfold.

I really expect him to put up some solid numbers this year though, and have a breakout year in '07.

I'm starting to get really high on the Jaguars.

 
I'm on board! Look to grab him with the 15th pick. :football:
For a while I had to look him up on the xpertsports ADP list in mocks. Now he's on there... barely....
 
Don't care to be first, just to be right. LHUCKS is right on the money.

oh and thanks for the contribution. I've been waiting for you to contribute to these boards for quite some time now..  :lmao:

just jokes. I really enjoy your content around here!
Yeah, I think the real question is when is he going to start?I thought for sure he'd start the season, but this talk of Taylor being in the best shape of his life makes me want to temper my expectations. Of course, he's already hurt... so who knows.

I'm just going to pick him late as usual and watch TC unfold.

I really expect him to put up some solid numbers this year though, and have a breakout year in '07.

I'm starting to get really high on the Jaguars.
The real question is does he have enough talent and size to be a starter in the nFL , and the answer is no without a doubt .
 
PAC 10 = Conference of Champions

I remember watching that game CAL-UCLA game, Drew was insane in that game.As good as Drew was in college, I'm just too worried about his size. I know he's got tree trunk legs, but he's going to get tossed around in the NFL. I'm just not sure he's capable of handling a full workload.

 
Talent-wise I'm not worried about Jones-Drew being a good NFL player. There are plenty of examples of undersized guys at the RB position who are productive. I'm more worried about when he'll get a chance to play. There is a crowd of RBs in Jax and a coach who seems to like RBBCs.

 
As a Jags homer who went to the first day of TC, trust me on this. Maurice Drew is still third on the pecking order. Drew had an amazing day but it was Jones who had the all around best day for any of the RB's. Jones has also slimmed a bit and gotten faster and seems to be the frontrunner for the 3rd down/COP back while Fred Taylor is healthy. Drew needs work on his pass-blocking as well and was victim to some drops, which are correctable rookie mistakes, but IMHO allows Greg Jones to establish himself as the primary backup.

If Fred were to go down early on in the season, expect Jones to carry the load for 2-3 games and for Drew to be eased in rather quickly. You could then expect a full blown RBBC. An RBBC is imminent when Freddy T is gone and I think by mid 2007, Maurice Drew will be getting more touches than Jones.

 
As a Jags homer who went to the first day of TC, trust me on this. Maurice Drew is still third on the pecking order.
For first and second downs, but I'd imagine Drew will be #1 before long on 3rd downs...if he's not already.
 
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Interesting topic... this is exactly why I putted up the following poll 2nd tier rookie RB rankings to figure out why FBG MB prefered Jerious Norwood to Maurice Drew for [DYNASTY] purposes...

It seems to me that Drew's size only disavantage is for blocking - and this is why he might not see much playing time... he has tremendous muscle development, he's heavier than many elite RBs (Portis and Barber comes to mind)... he has tremendous burst & elusiveness - vision - good catching skills...

The Darren Sproles comparisons are way off base... he looks to me like a smaller Brian Westbrook (faster but not stronger than Westbrook) and a more explosive Warrick Dunn (but not having the power base that Dunn has)...

I've got the 1.11 pick in my [DYNASTY] league... and I'm wondering who to pick: Norwood / Drew / Calhoun... I think Drew has more upside... but the FBG love seems to go to Norwood...

 
I liked :wub: Drew so much I traded M.BarberIII (139) & Pick 179 for Picks 150 & 151 which I turned into Drew & Greg Jones in the 14 team Dynasty I list in my sig.

:thumbup:

 
He is on my radar. I am wondering who will takeover first for their team. M Drew with the Jacksonville, or D Williams with Carolina. Both are shadowing the injury plagued starter ahead of them. I feel that if Taylor or Foster drops (as scheduled) both can take over and not look back. I pick 4th of 16 teams this year in our 2nd year of our Dynasty league. Is the 4th pick to soon to take this guy? Or go with the current rankings and go with Williams? :football:

Current RB's

Caddy Williams

LaMont Jordan

Frnak Gore

Ron Dayne

 
He is on my radar. I am wondering who will takeover first for their team. M Drew with the Jacksonville, or D Williams with Carolina. Both are shadowing the injury plagued starter ahead of them. I feel that if Taylor or Foster drops (as scheduled) both can take over and not look back. I pick 4th of 16 teams this year in our 2nd year of our Dynasty league. Is the 4th pick to soon to take this guy? Or go with the current rankings and go with Williams? :football:

Current RB's

Caddy Williams

LaMont Jordan

Frnak Gore

Ron Dayne
Well, if its a standard scoring dynasty, its going Bush, DWill, Maroney, White, Addai.Go White or Addai at 4, not Drew.

 
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As a Jags homer who went to the first day of TC, trust me on this. Maurice Drew is still third on the pecking order.
For first and second downs, but I'd imagine Drew will be #1 before long on 3rd downs...if he's not already.
you need to block on 3rd down; therefore you can count him out . . .
 
I know LHUCKS and I are all over him.

I own him in all 3 dynasty leagues I'm in, and am thinking I can steal him in redrafts late.

Get these drafts started early so you can snag him late before news spreads.

Consider this a gift.
I understand you and few others are enthusiastic but I'm not sur ewhat it's based on. Looking at this and LHUCK'S thread, the only substance mentioned was the TD return ratio. While impressive that doesn't parlay into NFL RB success.So what do you see that I'm missing? Or are we just talking about his sometimes electric performance in the watered down PAC 10? And I don't mean that as a diss but the PAC 10 isn't exactly loaded with strong D's.

I'm sure LHUCK'S will se this as an opportunity to tell us how he feels about the weak PAC 10 conference, but that doesn't really help us on Drew. Outside of USC the talent is spotty at best.

 
I understand you and few others are enthusiastic but I'm not sur ewhat it's based on. Looking at this and LHUCK'S thread, the only substance mentioned was the TD return ratio. While impressive that doesn't parlay into NFL RB success.

So what do you see that I'm missing? Or are we just talking about his sometimes electric performance in the watered down PAC 10? And I don't mean that as a diss but the PAC 10 isn't exactly loaded with strong D's.

I'm sure LHUCK'S will se this as an opportunity to tell us how he feels about the weak PAC 10 conference, but that doesn't really help us on Drew. Outside of USC the talent is spotty at best.
It probably isn't wise to worry about Pac 10 Ds when evaluating Drew. The conference sent a bunch of talent to the NFL this year, as it always does. Great offenses throughout the conference make the defenses look worse than they are. SC, Cal, Oregon, Stanford, all fielded capable defenses last season. Some of the others were not so great, and a couple were very bad. It's better to look at Drew and ask if it translates to the NFL. I said this a long time ago, he is my favorite rookie coming into the league. I really hope he has a great career. It would be fun for the whole family. But he is very enigmatic. From a fantasy perspective, I'm willing to wax and polish the bandwagon, but I'm not a passenger. I saw him in high school at De LaSalle and was convinced he was the second coming of Sanders. I was very excited he went to UCLA, being a Bruin homer through and through, and I never missed a game in his college career.

He isn't the second coming of Sanders, I doubt anyone ever will be (but I got my eye on Noel Devine). Drew is an enigma. He has great vision in the open field. It's why he set all-time records returning punts. But, he doesn't run with great vision among the big uglies or through the trash. His height is the issue. He just cannot see what a slightly taller man can see. He runs low for his height. He has well above average improvisational skills, but they were always a bone of contention with Bienemy (his RB coach). Sometimes he'd ad lib when the hole was there, sometimes he would hit the back of a lineman when the hole wasn't there. He's never had a major injury, but he gets little ones (ankles), and he gets his bell rung too often. He has the ability to break a defender's ankles, but he lacks the ability to avoid big hits. Enigmatic. He likes heavy contact. He will take on Sean Taylor mano a mano full steam and head on. He'll lose. He'll wobble to the sidelines. His burst and acceleration are second to none, but he isn't as quick as advertised. He pronates, and backs who run pigeon toed don't have quite the quick quick lateral agility of those that go a little ducky, Walter, Barry, Reggie. Ever try to run and cut pigeon toed? Great way to turn an ankle. Drew does have the sickest spin move I have ever seen, but how often will it come into play? He has phenomenal balance... sometimes. I've seen him keep his feet to the point of defying physics. But, enigmatically, I've seen him graze his TE and go straight down. I've seen him pushed down by LBs. He's like a bowling ball that can be tilted over sometimes and just keeps on rolling others. He has incredible hands down the field and adjusts to errant throws like a veteran WR. He's such a tiny target short passes have to be perfect. He rarely drops a catchable ball, but balls that aren't catchable for him are catchable for taller longer armed RBs. His arms are so short the football looks bigger when he carries it. I worry he's going to have a fumbling problem with the swarming stripping defenders in the NFL. Maybe not, but I've seen the ball pop out enough times to be concerned.

There's a lot of legit red flags here.

And one helluvan exciting football player.

May I be wrong and a fool not to hop aboard.

 
I think the most important thing to keep in my is that you can acquire MJD in a re-draft league in the last round and in the 2nd round of most dynasty college drafts. Most people would draft him after Norwood it seems too. I'd be willing to take a flier on a RB like MJD in a dynasty league. There's virtually no risk drafting there. And he could emerge as a productive NFL player.

From what I saw of him in college, he's pretty electrifying.

Sidenote from a post from Family Matters. You bring up good points, but I think PAC-10 defenses have improved from a couple of years ago and are now a little underrated.

And putting my money where my mouth is, I just traded a late first round pick next year for MJD.

 
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I understand you and few others are enthusiastic but I'm not sur ewhat it's based on. Looking at this and LHUCK'S thread, the only substance mentioned was the TD return ratio. While impressive that doesn't parlay into NFL RB success.

So what do you see that I'm missing? Or are we just talking about his sometimes electric performance in the watered down PAC 10? And I don't mean that as a diss but the PAC 10 isn't exactly loaded with strong D's.

I'm sure LHUCK'S will se this as an opportunity to tell us how he feels about the weak PAC 10 conference, but that doesn't really help us on Drew. Outside of USC the talent is spotty at best.
It probably isn't wise to worry about Pac 10 Ds when evaluating Drew. The conference sent a bunch of talent to the NFL this year, as it always does. Great offenses throughout the conference make the defenses look worse than they are. SC, Cal, Oregon, Stanford, all fielded capable defenses last season. Some of the others were not so great, and a couple were very bad. It's better to look at Drew and ask if it translates to the NFL. I said this a long time ago, he is my favorite rookie coming into the league. I really hope he has a great career. It would be fun for the whole family. But he is very enigmatic. From a fantasy perspective, I'm willing to wax and polish the bandwagon, but I'm not a passenger. I saw him in high school at De LaSalle and was convinced he was the second coming of Sanders. I was very excited he went to UCLA, being a Bruin homer through and through, and I never missed a game in his college career.

He isn't the second coming of Sanders, I doubt anyone ever will be (but I got my eye on Noel Devine). Drew is an enigma. He has great vision in the open field. It's why he set all-time records returning punts. But, he doesn't run with great vision among the big uglies or through the trash. His height is the issue. He just cannot see what a slightly taller man can see. He runs low for his height. He has well above average improvisational skills, but they were always a bone of contention with Bienemy (his RB coach). Sometimes he'd ad lib when the hole was there, sometimes he would hit the back of a lineman when the hole wasn't there. He's never had a major injury, but he gets little ones (ankles), and he gets his bell rung too often. He has the ability to break a defender's ankles, but he lacks the ability to avoid big hits. Enigmatic. He likes heavy contact. He will take on Sean Taylor mano a mano full steam and head on. He'll lose. He'll wobble to the sidelines. His burst and acceleration are second to none, but he isn't as quick as advertised. He pronates, and backs who run pigeon toed don't have quite the quick quick lateral agility of those that go a little ducky, Walter, Barry, Reggie. Ever try to run and cut pigeon toed? Great way to turn an ankle. Drew does have the sickest spin move I have ever seen, but how often will it come into play? He has phenomenal balance... sometimes. I've seen him keep his feet to the point of defying physics. But, enigmatically, I've seen him graze his TE and go straight down. I've seen him pushed down by LBs. He's like a bowling ball that can be tilted over sometimes and just keeps on rolling others. He has incredible hands down the field and adjusts to errant throws like a veteran WR. He's such a tiny target short passes have to be perfect. He rarely drops a catchable ball, but balls that aren't catchable for him are catchable for taller longer armed RBs. His arms are so short the football looks bigger when he carries it. I worry he's going to have a fumbling problem with the swarming stripping defenders in the NFL. Maybe not, but I've seen the ball pop out enough times to be concerned.

There's a lot of legit red flags here.

And one helluvan exciting football player.

May I be wrong and a fool not to hop aboard.
Hey Commish, thanks for the insight. I appreciate the honesty in your assessment of him. The write up does sound familiar to a few others, none of which I recall as legit FF players. But hey there's a first time for all, right? I think I'll let someone else take the flyer on this one.

 
I think the most important thing to keep in my is that you can acquire MJD in a re-draft league in the last round and in the 2nd round of most dynasty college drafts. Most people would draft him after Norwood it seems too. I'd be willing to take a flier on a RB like MJD in a dynasty league. There's virtually no risk drafting there. And he could emerge as a productive NFL player.

From what I saw of him in college, he's pretty electrifying.

Sidenote from a post from Family Matters. You bring up good points, but I think PAC-10 defenses have improved from a couple of years ago and are now a little underrated.

And putting my money where my mouth is, I just traded a late first round pick next year for MJD.
When I amde the reference, I'm thinking more along the lines of quality and depth of the league. I realize there's a few good teams in the league but the dropoff from the elite to the bottom is huge. I think USC's success has artificially inflated the league's image and reality has been skewed abit. The league has improved but it still has a long way to go.
 
I understand you and few others are enthusiastic but I'm not sur ewhat it's based on. Looking at this and LHUCK'S thread, the only substance mentioned was the TD return ratio. While impressive that doesn't parlay into NFL RB success.

So what do you see that I'm missing? Or are we just talking about his sometimes electric performance in the watered down PAC 10? And I don't mean that as a diss but the PAC 10 isn't exactly loaded with strong D's.

I'm sure LHUCK'S will se this as an opportunity to tell us how he feels about the weak PAC 10 conference, but that doesn't really help us on Drew. Outside of USC the talent is spotty at best.
It probably isn't wise to worry about Pac 10 Ds when evaluating Drew. The conference sent a bunch of talent to the NFL this year, as it always does. Great offenses throughout the conference make the defenses look worse than they are. SC, Cal, Oregon, Stanford, all fielded capable defenses last season. Some of the others were not so great, and a couple were very bad. It's better to look at Drew and ask if it translates to the NFL. I said this a long time ago, he is my favorite rookie coming into the league. I really hope he has a great career. It would be fun for the whole family. But he is very enigmatic. From a fantasy perspective, I'm willing to wax and polish the bandwagon, but I'm not a passenger. I saw him in high school at De LaSalle and was convinced he was the second coming of Sanders. I was very excited he went to UCLA, being a Bruin homer through and through, and I never missed a game in his college career.

He isn't the second coming of Sanders, I doubt anyone ever will be (but I got my eye on Noel Devine). Drew is an enigma. He has great vision in the open field. It's why he set all-time records returning punts. But, he doesn't run with great vision among the big uglies or through the trash. His height is the issue. He just cannot see what a slightly taller man can see. He runs low for his height. He has well above average improvisational skills, but they were always a bone of contention with Bienemy (his RB coach). Sometimes he'd ad lib when the hole was there, sometimes he would hit the back of a lineman when the hole wasn't there. He's never had a major injury, but he gets little ones (ankles), and he gets his bell rung too often. He has the ability to break a defender's ankles, but he lacks the ability to avoid big hits. Enigmatic. He likes heavy contact. He will take on Sean Taylor mano a mano full steam and head on. He'll lose. He'll wobble to the sidelines. His burst and acceleration are second to none, but he isn't as quick as advertised. He pronates, and backs who run pigeon toed don't have quite the quick quick lateral agility of those that go a little ducky, Walter, Barry, Reggie. Ever try to run and cut pigeon toed? Great way to turn an ankle. Drew does have the sickest spin move I have ever seen, but how often will it come into play? He has phenomenal balance... sometimes. I've seen him keep his feet to the point of defying physics. But, enigmatically, I've seen him graze his TE and go straight down. I've seen him pushed down by LBs. He's like a bowling ball that can be tilted over sometimes and just keeps on rolling others. He has incredible hands down the field and adjusts to errant throws like a veteran WR. He's such a tiny target short passes have to be perfect. He rarely drops a catchable ball, but balls that aren't catchable for him are catchable for taller longer armed RBs. His arms are so short the football looks bigger when he carries it. I worry he's going to have a fumbling problem with the swarming stripping defenders in the NFL. Maybe not, but I've seen the ball pop out enough times to be concerned.

There's a lot of legit red flags here.

And one helluvan exciting football player.

May I be wrong and a fool not to hop aboard.
So, would you say he's an enigma, or no?
 
am i silly in saying he'll be a special teams force long before he's a fantasy factor? i think they brought him in to boost punt returns and give lefty better field position with the potential that he could play on downs 1 thru 3. potential being the key word there. the problem i see with drew is the same i see with taylor - he won't get goal line carries. the issue is whether his future is brighter than the others in his 'tier'...norwood (dominant rushing team + dunn retires soon doesn't he?), calhoun (i think he's better than KJ but does martz think so? martz doesn't seem to be a rbbc guy) etc.

 
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I understand you and few others are enthusiastic but I'm not sur ewhat it's based on. Looking at this and LHUCK'S thread, the only substance mentioned was the TD return ratio. While impressive that doesn't parlay into NFL RB success.

So what do you see that I'm missing? Or are we just talking about his sometimes electric performance in the watered down PAC 10? And I don't mean that as a diss but the PAC 10 isn't exactly loaded with strong D's.

I'm sure LHUCK'S will se this as an opportunity to tell us how he feels about the weak PAC 10 conference, but that doesn't really help us on Drew. Outside of USC the talent is spotty at best.
It probably isn't wise to worry about Pac 10 Ds when evaluating Drew. The conference sent a bunch of talent to the NFL this year, as it always does. Great offenses throughout the conference make the defenses look worse than they are. SC, Cal, Oregon, Stanford, all fielded capable defenses last season. Some of the others were not so great, and a couple were very bad. It's better to look at Drew and ask if it translates to the NFL. I said this a long time ago, he is my favorite rookie coming into the league. I really hope he has a great career. It would be fun for the whole family. But he is very enigmatic. From a fantasy perspective, I'm willing to wax and polish the bandwagon, but I'm not a passenger. I saw him in high school at De LaSalle and was convinced he was the second coming of Sanders. I was very excited he went to UCLA, being a Bruin homer through and through, and I never missed a game in his college career.

He isn't the second coming of Sanders, I doubt anyone ever will be (but I got my eye on Noel Devine). Drew is an enigma. He has great vision in the open field. It's why he set all-time records returning punts. But, he doesn't run with great vision among the big uglies or through the trash. His height is the issue. He just cannot see what a slightly taller man can see. He runs low for his height. He has well above average improvisational skills, but they were always a bone of contention with Bienemy (his RB coach). Sometimes he'd ad lib when the hole was there, sometimes he would hit the back of a lineman when the hole wasn't there. He's never had a major injury, but he gets little ones (ankles), and he gets his bell rung too often. He has the ability to break a defender's ankles, but he lacks the ability to avoid big hits. Enigmatic. He likes heavy contact. He will take on Sean Taylor mano a mano full steam and head on. He'll lose. He'll wobble to the sidelines. His burst and acceleration are second to none, but he isn't as quick as advertised. He pronates, and backs who run pigeon toed don't have quite the quick quick lateral agility of those that go a little ducky, Walter, Barry, Reggie. Ever try to run and cut pigeon toed? Great way to turn an ankle. Drew does have the sickest spin move I have ever seen, but how often will it come into play? He has phenomenal balance... sometimes. I've seen him keep his feet to the point of defying physics. But, enigmatically, I've seen him graze his TE and go straight down. I've seen him pushed down by LBs. He's like a bowling ball that can be tilted over sometimes and just keeps on rolling others. He has incredible hands down the field and adjusts to errant throws like a veteran WR. He's such a tiny target short passes have to be perfect. He rarely drops a catchable ball, but balls that aren't catchable for him are catchable for taller longer armed RBs. His arms are so short the football looks bigger when he carries it. I worry he's going to have a fumbling problem with the swarming stripping defenders in the NFL. Maybe not, but I've seen the ball pop out enough times to be concerned.

There's a lot of legit red flags here.

And one helluvan exciting football player.

May I be wrong and a fool not to hop aboard.
Truly an outstanding post . . .
 
Chaos, great post.

But would you guys really not take Drew with your rookie pick in the second round or on the free agent market? For me, it comes down to value. If the bandwagon is a late-round flier of the rookie drafts then what the heck, I'm on it. I'd rather have Drew than Leonard Pope because there's a chance he develops into a Brian Westbrook type RB and I'd be paying next to nothing to get him.

 
Chaos, great post.

But would you guys really not take Drew with your rookie pick in the second round or on the free agent market? For me, it comes down to value. If the bandwagon is a late-round flier of the rookie drafts then what the heck, I'm on it. I'd rather have Drew than Leonard Pope because there's a chance he develops into a Brian Westbrook type RB and I'd be paying next to nothing to get him.
yes - a late round flier but better than taking a late-round flier on norwood, calhoun or marcedes lewis (drew's teammate and TD machine)?
 
That was one heck of a check down pass... 55 yards for a TD. Sure it was scrub time, but man Drew does have some awesome moves.

 
We just had the rookie draft for our auction league yesterday and he was on my radar, but I dealt with the Jaguars RB caoursel last year and I think I'll pass. Del Rio is almost as bad as Shannahan when it comes to setting a depth chart. I opted for Wali Lundy w/ the 11th pick.

 
I'm on board - but I have a dynasty seat.

I don't think he gets much done this year behind both Greg Jones and a rejuvenated Fred Taylor.

That probably guarantees injuries to both - but I'm not holding my breath on the #3 back.

I do like him in 2007.

 

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