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Favre's final game at Lambeau???... (1 Viewer)

ukshane

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We all know Favre stunk against the Lions last week but I think at least a couple of his INT's were the result of tipped balls by his own receivers. Also, last week Pennington looked like a rock star against the Vikings posting 320+ yards and 2 TD's.

What are the odd's Favre posts another multi-int, zero TD game against the Vikings Defense during his last game at Lambeau in front of a national audience? Could he be a huge play this week?

 
Response from another thread to the same question you're asking here;

RAIDERNATION said:
my man otis said:
Again, good call RN. I'm going to bump this on a related note but it might deserve it's own thread.

Championship week 16 (or semifinals or consolation games) for a lot of folks here...can we take these thoughts forward one more week...

Should we think of BRETT FAVRE as a must start here, in primetime, in what is very probably his last game in Lambeau Field - against the very same Vikings that Chad Pennington threw passes up, over and around last week?

I say yes, he bounces back from a terrible game and goes for 300/2/1 and finishes his Lambeau career out with a victory.

Thoughts?

For full disclosure, I've got Vick/Schaub as my other QBs and will be riding The Favre Train this week.
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Favre should certainly HAVE to throw more than Vick will. The only thing you have to worry about is that the Vikings will mail it in the last two games. If that happens, the Pack will be able to run on them.Still, how do you not roll with #4 here?
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I agree with RN.
 
really who cares if it is his last game in GB, stop with this already and retire, he's washed up.

As for a fantasy start option, he racked up a negative in a few leagues Im in last week,against the lions!, so if you have a better option, bench him.

 
What are the odd's Favre posts another multi-int, zero TD game against the Vikings Defense during his last game at Lambeau in front of a national audience? Could he be a huge play this week?
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I'm a Packers fan, and I think the chances of another multi-int zero TD game is roughly 50-50. I realize everything looks good for a big game, but so did last week. Yes, his receivers dropped two TDs. But instead of working the field, moving the chains, he just got pis'd off and threw into triple coverage. The same thing that happened last year is happening this year, and that is Favre is wearing down. Look at his last 5-6 games from last year. I dont know the stats off the top of my head, but its like 3 tds and 13 ints. He's on the exact same path this year. I hate to say it, but he old man is, old. I hope i'm wrong, i would LOVE to see Brett light up the Viqueens. But the reality in my mind is this is a 10-6 game, its going to come down to who screws up last, who has the ball at the end, and whos kicker misses the least.
 
bicycle_seat_sniffer said:
As for a fantasy start option, he racked up a negative in a few leagues Im in last week,against the lions!, so if you have a better option, bench him.
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For some of us, we want to go high risk, high reward because of our opponents. The question I am looking at is whether he has the potential to go off big in his last Lambeau game? Or will he do great for a half, then the Minn run D will start mailing it in and the coach pulls him in the 4th quarter to honor his legend?I'm leaning toward either Cutler or Palmer as other options with big upside and big downside that are more likely to play the full game against a defense that cares and will stop the run.
 
stickboy said:
bicycle_seat_sniffer said:
As for a fantasy start option, he racked up a negative in a few leagues Im in last week,against the lions!, so if you have a better option, bench him.
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For some of us, we want to go high risk, high reward because of our opponents. The question I am looking at is whether he has the potential to go off big in his last Lambeau game? Or will he do great for a half, then the Minn run D will start mailing it in and the coach pulls him in the 4th quarter to honor his legend?I'm leaning toward either Cutler or Palmer as other options with big upside and big downside that are more likely to play the full game against a defense that cares and will stop the run.
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If Walker wasn't going to miss the game I might lean the same way but it's a tough call...
 
stickboy said:
bicycle_seat_sniffer said:
As for a fantasy start option, he racked up a negative in a few leagues Im in last week,against the lions!, so if you have a better option, bench him.
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For some of us, we want to go high risk, high reward because of our opponents. The question I am looking at is whether he has the potential to go off big in his last Lambeau game? Or will he do great for a half, then the Minn run D will start mailing it in and the coach pulls him in the 4th quarter to honor his legend?I'm leaning toward either Cutler or Palmer as other options with big upside and big downside that are more likely to play the full game against a defense that cares and will stop the run.
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your considering benching Palmer for Favre? :excited:
 
First of all, I sincerely doubt that tomorrow will be his last game at Lambeau. Yes, the team has been inconsistent, but it's definitely shown signs of improvement. Favre seems to be having fun, and he's confident that he's still got the physical skills to play.

That being said (as a Donovan McNabb owner), I will be starting him tomorrow night over both Vince Young and (cough) Alex Smith.

Go Pack, go!!!!

 
Banger said:
stickboy said:
bicycle_seat_sniffer said:
As for a fantasy start option, he racked up a negative in a few leagues Im in last week,against the lions!, so if you have a better option, bench him.
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For some of us, we want to go high risk, high reward because of our opponents. The question I am looking at is whether he has the potential to go off big in his last Lambeau game? Or will he do great for a half, then the Minn run D will start mailing it in and the coach pulls him in the 4th quarter to honor his legend?I'm leaning toward either Cutler or Palmer as other options with big upside and big downside that are more likely to play the full game against a defense that cares and will stop the run.
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If Walker wasn't going to miss the game I might lean the same way but it's a tough call...
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Sorry for the :excited: but is it definite that Walker doesn't play this weekend?
 
Big Score said:
Banger said:
stickboy said:
bicycle_seat_sniffer said:
As for a fantasy start option, he racked up a negative in a few leagues Im in last week,against the lions!, so if you have a better option, bench him.
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For some of us, we want to go high risk, high reward because of our opponents. The question I am looking at is whether he has the potential to go off big in his last Lambeau game? Or will he do great for a half, then the Minn run D will start mailing it in and the coach pulls him in the 4th quarter to honor his legend?I'm leaning toward either Cutler or Palmer as other options with big upside and big downside that are more likely to play the full game against a defense that cares and will stop the run.
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If Walker wasn't going to miss the game I might lean the same way but it's a tough call...
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Sorry for the :banned: but is it definite that Walker doesn't play this weekend?
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nothing definite yet
 
Limp Ditka said:
Big Score said:
Banger said:
stickboy said:
bicycle_seat_sniffer said:
As for a fantasy start option, he racked up a negative in a few leagues Im in last week,against the lions!, so if you have a better option, bench him.
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For some of us, we want to go high risk, high reward because of our opponents. The question I am looking at is whether he has the potential to go off big in his last Lambeau game? Or will he do great for a half, then the Minn run D will start mailing it in and the coach pulls him in the 4th quarter to honor his legend?I'm leaning toward either Cutler or Palmer as other options with big upside and big downside that are more likely to play the full game against a defense that cares and will stop the run.
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If Walker wasn't going to miss the game I might lean the same way but it's a tough call...
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Sorry for the :banned: but is it definite that Walker doesn't play this weekend?
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nothing definite yet
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Thanx...& again please excuse the :D ....carry on....
 
gruecd said:
First of all, I sincerely doubt that tomorrow will be his last game at Lambeau. Yes, the team has been inconsistent, but it's definitely shown signs of improvement. Favre seems to be having fun, and he's confident that he's still got the physical skills to play.That being said (as a Donovan McNabb owner), I will be starting him tomorrow night over both Vince Young and (cough) Alex Smith.Go Pack, go!!!!
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Fellow McNabb owner that had Favre sitting on the bench as a backup...needless to say I've had some inconsistancy with Favre since McNabb's injury. I'm almost set on starting him, but my other option isn't terrible....well didn't think so until I watched that KC/SanDiego game Sunday night. River's stats made Favre's terrible weekend look good. I have a very tough decision to make, and it will probably end up being Favre. I'm watching the weather very closely for both QBs, and that might be the deciding factor.Would think though that Favre should do fairly well...assuming that his receivers don't drop sure TD passes.
 
VIKEfan said:
gruecd said:
First of all, I sincerely doubt that tomorrow will be his last game at Lambeau. Yes, the team has been inconsistent, but it's definitely shown signs of improvement. Favre seems to be having fun, and he's confident that he's still got the physical skills to play.That being said (as a Donovan McNabb owner), I will be starting him tomorrow night over both Vince Young and (cough) Alex Smith.Go Pack, go!!!!
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Fellow McNabb owner that had Favre sitting on the bench as a backup...needless to say I've had some inconsistancy with Favre since McNabb's injury. I'm almost set on starting him, but my other option isn't terrible....well didn't think so until I watched that KC/SanDiego game Sunday night. River's stats made Favre's terrible weekend look good. I have a very tough decision to make, and it will probably end up being Favre. I'm watching the weather very closely for both QBs, and that might be the deciding factor.Would think though that Favre should do fairly well...assuming that his receivers don't drop sure TD passes.
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Also, I think the chances are fairly remote that Green/Morency score on the ground. Pretty much whatever scoring the Pack do will be by Favre, the kicker and possibly the defense vs. Tavaris Jackson in his 1st start.
 
Slum Lord said:
What are the odd's Favre posts another multi-int, zero TD game against the Vikings Defense during his last game at Lambeau in front of a national audience? Could he be a huge play this week?
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I'm a Packers fan, and I think the chances of another multi-int zero TD game is roughly 50-50. I realize everything looks good for a big game, but so did last week. Yes, his receivers dropped two TDs. But instead of working the field, moving the chains, he just got pis'd off and threw into triple coverage. The same thing that happened last year is happening this year, and that is Favre is wearing down. Look at his last 5-6 games from last year. I dont know the stats off the top of my head, but its like 3 tds and 13 ints. He's on the exact same path this year. I hate to say it, but he old man is, old. I hope i'm wrong, i would LOVE to see Brett light up the Viqueens. But the reality in my mind is this is a 10-6 game, its going to come down to who screws up last, who has the ball at the end, and whos kicker misses the least.
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Last 5 games last year 1TD/10INTLast 6 games last year 2TD/12INT
 
bicycle_seat_sniffer said:
really who cares if it is his last game in GB, stop with this already and retire, he's washed up.As for a fantasy start option, he racked up a negative in a few leagues Im in last week,against the lions!, so if you have a better option, bench him.
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That what i have been thinkng for years. Time to go brett :thumbup:
 
Im thinking of rolling the dice with Favre over Brady. The only way the Pack will be able to score on the Vikings is through the air. So long as the weather is okay, I dont think Favre is a bad start.

 
He is 7 TD passes from Marino's record. Unless he gets those in these next 2 games, I don't see him retiring.

If he gets the record, it will probably only stand for about 5 years until Peyton breaks it.

 
And let it begin

http://greenbaypressgazette.packersnews.co.../612200518/1989

Thompson wouldn't discuss when he needs to know from Favre whether he's coming back, though Favre said he will make a quicker decision than last offseason, when he took until late April to announce his return. He stated no deadlines, but presumably, the Packers will want to know whether he's coming back before the start of free agency in early March, and Favre said he doesn't want to keep his family hanging on the issue either.



"I think that's the appropriate thing to do — give them a decision as soon as possible," Favre said.

:bowtie: :lmao: :lmao:

During his press conference, Favre talked on both sides of retirement, but in many ways, didn't sound like a player ready to stop playing. For instance, he made clear that he thinks he's physically capable of being a top NFL quarterback, and that he likes the Packers' young talent, even if he doesn't know how long it will take to develop it.
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You will have to wait until 2007 for your answer becasue he is not retiring 7 TD's away from the record of all QB records.

 
gman74 said:
bicycle_seat_sniffer said:
really who cares if it is his last game in GB, stop with this already and retire, he's washed up.As for a fantasy start option, he racked up a negative in a few leagues Im in last week,against the lions!, so if you have a better option, bench him.
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That what i have been thinkng for years. Time to go brett :thumbup:
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Careful what you wish for QB play is curently at an alltime low. He is still better than 50% of the QB's playing and that is a conservative #. Once he retires, Donald Driver becomes pretty much a 3rd tier WR. Who replaces him again? Yeah. That's what I thought.
 
lod2005 said:
gman74 said:
bicycle_seat_sniffer said:
really who cares if it is his last game in GB, stop with this already and retire, he's washed up.As for a fantasy start option, he racked up a negative in a few leagues Im in last week,against the lions!, so if you have a better option, bench him.
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That what i have been thinkng for years. Time to go brett :bye:
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Careful what you wish for QB play is curently at an alltime low.
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:thumbup: How do you figure?
 
I've been a huge Favre fan, but looking at the last two year's worth of late season games stats. Yikes.

Now, I realize that the talent in Green Bay is lacking, and this is a very young team. But man, that's bad. Frankly, it's hard not to look at that as a reality check. I'm a Packer fan, but it's becoming pretty clear that Favre's decline is in full swing.

Some will argue that it's because of the way the last two season's have gone. May be some merit to that. But, I'd think he'd still play better than he has, even if that is the case.

 
lod2005 said:
gman74 said:
bicycle_seat_sniffer said:
really who cares if it is his last game in GB, stop with this already and retire, he's washed up.As for a fantasy start option, he racked up a negative in a few leagues Im in last week,against the lions!, so if you have a better option, bench him.
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That what i have been thinkng for years. Time to go brett :thumbup:
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Careful what you wish for QB play is curently at an alltime low. He is still better than 50% of the QB's playing and that is a conservative #. Once he retires, Donald Driver becomes pretty much a 3rd tier WR. Who replaces him again? Yeah. That's what I thought.
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From the article I posted
With two games to play, Favre's passer rating of 74.8 points ranks 24th in the NFL
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Now we all know that QB Rating is not the tell all of what a QB brings to the table, but it's not off by 25% when it comes to ranking them. The only way he's better than 50% of the QBs playing is if you mean QBs rostered.
 
Man in the yellow hat said:
I've been a huge Favre fan, but looking at the last two year's worth of late season games stats. Yikes. Now, I realize that the talent in Green Bay is lacking, and this is a very young team. But man, that's bad. Frankly, it's hard not to look at that as a reality check. I'm a Packer fan, but it's becoming pretty clear that Favre's decline is in full swing.Some will argue that it's because of the way the last two season's have gone. May be some merit to that. But, I'd think he'd still play better than he has, even if that is the case.
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how many games do they win without him? 2? 1?
 
Banger said:
Man in the yellow hat said:
I've been a huge Favre fan, but looking at the last two year's worth of late season games stats. Yikes. Now, I realize that the talent in Green Bay is lacking, and this is a very young team. But man, that's bad. Frankly, it's hard not to look at that as a reality check. I'm a Packer fan, but it's becoming pretty clear that Favre's decline is in full swing.Some will argue that it's because of the way the last two season's have gone. May be some merit to that. But, I'd think he'd still play better than he has, even if that is the case.
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how many games do they win without him? 2? 1?
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I'm not saying I want to get on with post Favre life. But, I've been defending against his 'decline' when I think it's pretty clear now that it's happening, and faster than I thought. He just isn't as consistent anymore, and the throws I expected him to always be able to make just aren't being made.Who knows what the record would be without him. That's very hard to quantify, in my opinion. We have no idea if A-Rodge (I made that up) is any good. And Ingle Martin is a third stringer. So, what do we have to go on?
 
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FWIW, 3 out of his last 5 games last season were @ Baltimore, @ Chicago, and Chicago in GB. These happened to be his worst three out of the five. He wasnt playing the greatest in these games, but this cant be discounted.

 
Fear & Loathing said:
lod2005 said:
gman74 said:
bicycle_seat_sniffer said:
really who cares if it is his last game in GB, stop with this already and retire, he's washed up.As for a fantasy start option, he racked up a negative in a few leagues Im in last week,against the lions!, so if you have a better option, bench him.
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That what i have been thinkng for years. Time to go brett :bye:
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Careful what you wish for QB play is curently at an alltime low.
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:unsure: How do you figure?
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Off the top of my head, 3 teams do not even have a legitimate starting QB capable of winning a game. Houston, Jax., Oak.Others in need of a QB are Det. TB, Minn. Wash. Mia. (if you think Culpepper is ever going to return to a viable QB you are sadly mistaken).
 
Man in the yellow hat said:
Banger said:
Man in the yellow hat said:
I've been a huge Favre fan, but looking at the last two year's worth of late season games stats. Yikes. Now, I realize that the talent in Green Bay is lacking, and this is a very young team. But man, that's bad. Frankly, it's hard not to look at that as a reality check. I'm a Packer fan, but it's becoming pretty clear that Favre's decline is in full swing.Some will argue that it's because of the way the last two season's have gone. May be some merit to that. But, I'd think he'd still play better than he has, even if that is the case.
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how many games do they win without him? 2? 1?
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I'm not saying I want to get on with post Favre life. But, I've been defending against his 'decline' when I think it's pretty clear now that it's happening, and faster than I thought. He just isn't as consistent anymore, and the throws I expected him to always be able to make just aren't being made.Who knows what the record would be without him. That's very hard to quantify, in my opinion. We have no idea if A-Rodge (I made that up) is any good. And Ingle Martin is a third stringer. So, what do we have to go on?
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I hear ya. He's definitely on the decline but who wouldn't be at this stage of their career, especially playing through all the injuries he has. Even on the decline though this is how I see it.....Better than...Brad Johnson, Kitna, Oak QB's, Frye, Washington QB's, Miami, Delhomme, TB QB's, A. Smith and Leinart. Equal to/possibly better than...Grossman, McNair, Pennington, Losman, Eli. So that's about 15 teams that would either be better or no worse off with Favre at the helm IMO. He's become an average QB at this point in his career but many QB's starting now will never be as good as he is now....
 
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Favre is competitive, and wants to play as long as he can. I only played H.S. football, but would have done almost anything to play in college, or at least put the uniform on at least one more time. Take the most competitive person you know, and multiply it by 2 and that's how competitive a guy like Favre is. You can't blame him if he wants to keep playing. He knows he can still win some games by himself, and he loves the spotlight and the challenge. Whether he can get is body to go through another season is the only question that he is considering (I don't think the TD record is what's making his decision).

With that said, he has been forcing the ball quite a bit more the last few years, and his physical abilities have deteriorated a bit = He wants to make things happen, but can't do it like he used to. Please remember that "like he used to" to Favre, is better than most anyone who has ever played the game.

The fact that he has tended to have worse stats at the end of the season probably has a lot to do with his body wearing down. All the games he has played (consecutively!) has to be taking a toll on him. Thus, from a fantasy standpoint, I wouldn't think he's a great start the last few weeks. Unfortunately he's the best I have in one of my leagues = he's starting over Garrard and Pennington, and I'm hoping for some Brett magic.

He has a chance to have a decent week this week, but week 17 could get ugly.

 
bicycle_seat_sniffer said:
your considering benching Palmer for Favre? :unsure:
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Yep. How much upside does Palmer have against a Denver D in what essentially a playoff game? Especially given Palmer's lack of mobility, his high turnover rate, and Champ Bailey taking out Ocho Cinquo? I'm not saying it's a sure thing, but start your studs does not always apply when you have to take a bigger risk.
 
stickboy said:
bicycle_seat_sniffer said:
your considering benching Palmer for Favre? :o
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Yep. How much upside does Palmer have against a Denver D in what essentially a playoff game? Especially given Palmer's lack of mobility, his high turnover rate, and Champ Bailey taking out Ocho Cinquo? I'm not saying it's a sure thing, but start your studs does not always apply when you have to take a bigger risk.
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