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[Vikings News] - Chad Greenway (1 Viewer)

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I read an article today where Chad Greenway acknowledges that he clearly behind EJ Henderson as far as being a linebacker. :confused:

Henderson, who said he dropped 10 pounds (to 235) during the offseason, has been so good that Greenway conceded Monday he was running a definite second at the weak-side spot, but the Vikings have no thought at this time of trying their No. 1 pick at another position.
Starting to question whether Greenway is going to be a legit NFL pro. I also read he has already suffered a concussion and has sat out some practices. Not a good start for the kid.
 
I read an article today where Chad Greenway acknowledges that he clearly behind EJ Henderson as far as being a linebacker. :confused:

Henderson, who said he dropped 10 pounds (to 235) during the offseason, has been so good that Greenway conceded Monday he was running a definite second at the weak-side spot, but the Vikings have no thought at this time of trying their No. 1 pick at another position.
Starting to question whether Greenway is going to be a legit NFL pro. I also read he has already suffered a concussion and has sat out some practices. Not a good start for the kid.
At least you gave him a week in his first training camp. :thumbup:
 
I read an article today where Chad Greenway acknowledges that he clearly behind EJ Henderson as far as being a linebacker. :confused:

Henderson, who said he dropped 10 pounds (to 235) during the offseason, has been so good that Greenway conceded Monday he was running a definite second at the weak-side spot, but the Vikings have no thought at this time of trying their No. 1 pick at another position.
Starting to question whether Greenway is going to be a legit NFL pro. I also read he has already suffered a concussion and has sat out some practices. Not a good start for the kid.
At least you gave him a week in his first training camp. :thumbup:
Not doubting, just questioning. Have you heard anything else in your circle Reg? You always seem to have more information than I.
 
I like Hodge better than Greenway.
I don't know much about Hodge. But on Greenway's behalf, I don't see him having a lot of upside such as a Brian Urlacher or other potential HOFer. However, I think the odds that Greenway will be a bust are relatively minute. I see Greenway potentially evolving into a Clay Mathews mold; solid contributor for 10+ years, but not gifted enough to be great.
 
I like Hodge better than Greenway.
I don't know much about Hodge. But on Greenway's behalf, I don't see him having a lot of upside such as a Brian Urlacher or other potential HOFer. However, I think the odds that Greenway will be a bust are relatively minute. I see Greenway potentially evolving into a Clay Mathews mold; solid contributor for 10+ years, but not gifted enough to be great.
I think that is a pretty fair assesment.
 
I don't know but Childress's statement as to Greenway not having a concussion ever at LB was pretty good. It went something like, "If he hasn't ever had a concussion while playing LB, then he hasn't been playing LB the right way"

 
I heard that EJ Henderson has been the most impressive LB in camp. He is the only LB that is assured a starting spot. Henderson is not great when he has the extra responsiblity of calling plays as the Middle LB.

 
I'm not sure that there's anything to see here. Henderson obviously saw the writing on the wall when they drafted Greenway and has come into camp determined and in shape.

Nobody's down on Greenway, and it's pretty tough for a rookie in his first camp to compete with a determined 4th year veteran in making reads. It sounds like Greenway's about where they'd want him to be, and as long as he continues to develop he'll be fine.

Some coaches don't start rookies anyway. Gregg Williams is like that in Washington. Sean Taylor, who was about as ready as any defensive rookie not playing D-line to start, wasn't given the starting spot until about week 8 of his rookie season. LB's and safeties have a lot of responsibility that goes with their positions, and they need time to mentally get up to speed.

 
I like Hodge better than Greenway.
:yes:Greenway and Hodge were a great combo, but I always wondered if one made the other better. I think Greenway will be fine, although not Pro Bowl level, but I'm really starting to lean more and more towards Hodge being the better of the two Iowa LBs.
 
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I'm not sure that there's anything to see here. Henderson obviously saw the writing on the wall when they drafted Greenway and has come into camp determined and in shape. Nobody's down on Greenway, and it's pretty tough for a rookie in his first camp to compete with a determined 4th year veteran in making reads. It sounds like Greenway's about where they'd want him to be, and as long as he continues to develop he'll be fine. Some coaches don't start rookies anyway. Gregg Williams is like that in Washington. Sean Taylor, who was about as ready as any defensive rookie not playing D-line to start, wasn't given the starting spot until about week 8 of his rookie season. LB's and safeties have a lot of responsibility that goes with their positions, and they need time to mentally get up to speed.
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Blurb from Sean Jensen's Blog:

8/3/2006 Greenway update

A reader wondered how he looked so far. He hasn't had a real highlight. But he also hasn't made any glaring mistakes. His technique seems solid, since he's not yelled at a lot by his position coach.

But his athleticism is very evident.

A few days old, but it just looks like there's no need to really push him as EJ is having a strong camp and is best suited to that spot.

 
In no way does Greenway not start for this team. Last I checked, Greenway is the only fast LB in an underwhelming LB corps that requires speed to operate.

He is a winner.

You say no need to rush him, but he is the future at WSLB, no? He is the fastest LB on that squad, and MIN won't be close to contention this year. Why not let the rookie start and learn?

 
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In no way does Greenway not start for this team. Last I checked, Greenway is the only fast LB in an underwhelming LB corps that requires speed to operate.He is a winner.
Henderson, Harris, Thomas, and Leber all have above average playing speed. Nothing special, but they aren't lagging way behind the Shelton Quarles, Hunter Hillenmeyers, and Ryan Neces of the NFL landscape either.Your underlying point is probably correct, though, Greenway plays soon. Doubtful his time in backup purgatory lasts as long as Barrett Ruud, but Greenway may not have an impact until midseason.
 
Listening to PA and Dubay, PA speculates that Greenway is out of position a little to often at this point in camp. That's his issue. He does call the games for the Vikes on the radio, so he does have a little access. Draw your own conclusions as to how much you believe what he said.

 
In no way does Greenway not start for this team. Last I checked, Greenway is the only fast LB in an underwhelming LB corps that requires speed to operate.He is a winner.
Henderson, Harris, Thomas, and Leber all have above average playing speed. Nothing special, but they aren't lagging way behind the Shelton Quarles, Hunter Hillenmeyers, and Ryan Neces of the NFL landscape either.Your underlying point is probably correct, though, Greenway plays soon. Doubtful his time in backup purgatory lasts as long as Barrett Ruud, but Greenway may not have an impact until midseason.
There are really two big question marks for MIN'd LB corps, MLB and WLB.SLB you can get away with trash in the T2D. I think MIN has above average trash for SLB.. servicable to the point that it won't be a weakness.With the DTs that MIN has, probably one of the best pairs in the league, it's vital for a MLB to be a playmaker, because he'll be in position to do the most damage on the team. They have a big question mark there IMO.And for WLB, you need all the speed you can get. I don't see Henderson beating out Greenway for this job when he struggled to win it before against a lower level of competition, and especially when MIN isn't going anywhere.It's not like he's a QB and you might break his confidence or do damage to him by throwing him in the fire. I'm fairly confident Tomlin will not hesitate to start Greenway, and merely wants him to earn the job in front of his teammates so that he commands a higher position of respect, since he will be expected to lead this unit for the forseeable future.I might also be pimping him because he's one of my starting LBs in my IDP league :D
 
There are really two big question marks for MIN'd LB corps, MLB and WLB.

SLB you can get away with trash in the T2D. I think MIN has above average trash for SLB.. servicable to the point that it won't be a weakness.

With the DTs that MIN has, probably one of the best pairs in the league, it's vital for a MLB to be a playmaker, because he'll be in position to do the most damage on the team. They have a big question mark there IMO.

In most variations of the Tampa-2, the MLB is the quarterback, but not necessarily the playmaker. Most variations scheme to spill plays to the weak side of the field, where the Mike and Will can both flow to the play. The Mike drops in coverage on passing downs, so the Will is more likely to be in position to make plays in the short zones.

And for WLB, you need all the speed you can get. I don't see Henderson beating out Greenway for this job when he struggled to win it before against a lower level of competition, and especially when MIN isn't going anywhere.

That was then, this is now. Insiders are suggesting that Henderson may finally be showing all of the skills that made him a highly regarded backer coming out of college. With Greenway having been more or less handpicked (Sims was probably their first choice) to play the Will, he'll be in there soon enough, but no team considers themselves out of contention in preseason and Greenway has to show he's not a liability in a complicated scheme before pushing what appears to be a solid vet option out of the way.

It's not like he's a QB and you might break his confidence or do damage to him by throwing him in the fire. I'm fairly confident Tomlin will not hesitate to start Greenway, and merely wants him to earn the job in front of his teammates so that he commands a higher position of respect, since he will be expected to lead this unit for the forseeable future.

I might also be pimping him because he's one of my starting LBs in my IDP league :D

Finally, full disclosure... :P
 

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