Golden Valley Vipers
Footballguy
This service is free and would reduce the hassle with collecting and distributing money.
Has anyone used it before?
Has anyone used it before?
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Steve in Minneapolis
Footballguy
I don't think anyone has used it before b/c it is brand new.
This was started (in part) by Paul Charchian who helped start Fanball, and is a radio personality on KFAN in Minneapolis and does the Fantasy Football show on Sirius Satellite Radio.
He has been in the fantasy football industry for many years, so this is not some 'fly-by-night' group....
This was started (in part) by Paul Charchian who helped start Fanball, and is a radio personality on KFAN in Minneapolis and does the Fantasy Football show on Sirius Satellite Radio.
He has been in the fantasy football industry for many years, so this is not some 'fly-by-night' group....
Kwai Chang Caine
Footballguy
Not a bad idea by them. Let the money sit in an account that they get to keep the interest on.
Eviloutsider
Footballguy
We used it this year, seems to work.
Facecow
Footballguy
It eases the distribution of cash for winners as well as provides a transparent handling of cash so all team owners can see what's going on. It may have a method of tracking the waiver costs that many leagues implement.This would be particularly helpful for leagues that have owners distributed throughout the country.
I looked at it but didn't want the payouts in Visa cards and didn't want to pay for the other options. Hopefully they make enough off the interest to expand the free payment/payout options next year. I think it is a great idea, just not willing to pay for it.
If I were in a high $ league (particularly with people I don't know very well) I'd really want this to hold the $ for us.
I'll be looking for feedback at the end of the year from people that used it.
If I were in a high $ league (particularly with people I don't know very well) I'd really want this to hold the $ for us.
I'll be looking for feedback at the end of the year from people that used it.
The Jerk
Footballguy
Exactly why we are going to use it. It's a league of old fraternity buddies from Boston where all of us graduated between 1988-1993. Two still live in Massachusetts, but the rest now reside in Minnesota, D.C., San Diego, Seattle, Orlando, and Pittsburgh, and one other location I'm not even sure about.We take turns running the league, and by far the most annoying part of being a Commissioner is nagging the stragglers to get their entry fee in for weeks if not months. It's annoying enough handling all the money, but that pales in comparison with having to cajole, beg and threaten long-time friends to do what they should have done at the first opportunity.It's possible to have no fees, and the auto-nag feature makes it possible for the Commissioner to just run the league and not have to be the payment cop.
swidman
Footballguy
I'm in a league where every year it seems like forever to get your winnings. One year, with a different guy running the league than now, the commish took the money to help pay some bills. It took some guys months before they received their winnings.So I can see where this service would come in handy.
LionsFan78
Footballguy
bump
Sorry, only thread that came up on a search. Curious to hear from anyone that used this service this year. Legit? Any issues?
Sorry, only thread that came up on a search. Curious to hear from anyone that used this service this year. Legit? Any issues?
LionsFan78
Footballguy
Nothing? Anyone? Just looking for confirmation from people who've recieved their winnings. Prompt? Any snags during the season? Was Customer Support good? Did you encounter any issues with the preloaded Visa Cards you can elect to receive as payment? Thanks.
Just a note that I'm following this thread. If anyone has anything good or bad to say about LeagueSafe, let me know here or reach out to me directly at heycharch (at) leaguesafe (dot com).
If you don't know the service, you can go to the home page, or check out this article in the Wall Street Journal.
And thanks to David and Joe for agreeing to let me interface with you guys directly.
If you don't know the service, you can go to the home page, or check out this article in the Wall Street Journal.
And thanks to David and Joe for agreeing to let me interface with you guys directly.
LionsFan78
Footballguy
We've had a great experience with it so far. Top notch customer support (emailed us back within minutes on issues), pretty user-friendly interface, plenty of options that a league can agree on.
ditka85
Footballguy
I have a question charch. I was told a few weeks ago that there would be a new feature that allows commissioners to move the deposit/refund deadline. This is important to me as I have a startup auction in a few weeks and I would like to prevent a disgruntled owner from withdrawing his funds if he is unhappy with his team later on. Is this feature available yet?
Thanks for asking, Ditka...That feature is slated for a May release. From a development standpoint, it's a thorny project, so it needs some time to cook. For a little extra data, here's exactly what we're building: 1) Optionally, commissioners can move the deposit deadline forward to any earlier date.2) Optionally, commissioners can allow late payments, after the deadline, but with a mandatory late payment fee. The fee will have a flat amount for LeagueSafe, and optionally, an amount for the league's balance.Charchditka85 said:
Sweet.LionsFan78 said:We've had a great experience with it so far. Top notch customer support (emailed us back within minutes on issues), pretty user-friendly interface, plenty of options that a league can agree on.
Leroy's Aces
Footballguy
to you for coming up with this exceptional product to protect players. I will be switching the local league I commish to your product for the fall.
kurtrudder
Footballguy
I can agree with some of the earlier posts regarding Leaguesafe.com excellent customer service. I am commish of a number of leagues (including the link in my sig) and we are using leaguesafe having found their service to be first rate.
We have an ongoing keeper league which for various reasons, we decided to move our league fees into leaguesafe. The main reason being that many of us are located all over the world. In fact, we have a 2 division split with Americans in one division and Internationals in another division.
Anyway at first we noticed that there didn't seem to be any facility for international customers to be able to make credit card payments into leaguesafe. When we encountered this issue, I commenced discussions with customer service and they were very quick and detailed with their responses. They were straight to the point and didn't try to d*ck me around. They were quick to admit that this facility had not been set up and immediately went to work to make it happen.
Within a few weeks, this feature had been successfully added and now all of my league members have been able to make successful payments for our league, including myself being in Australia. One of the best things about the service we received is that the same person was contactable and up to speed on our ongoing issue, keeping me informed with ongoing updates.
I'd be more than happy to attest that leaguesafe is legit and the only way to go for a high stakes league and/or internet start up league. To be honest, unless you had a league where you knew everyone and could 100% trust the commish, leaguesafe really does make sense and takes away so many of the money hassles a commish has to deal with.
We have an ongoing keeper league which for various reasons, we decided to move our league fees into leaguesafe. The main reason being that many of us are located all over the world. In fact, we have a 2 division split with Americans in one division and Internationals in another division.
Anyway at first we noticed that there didn't seem to be any facility for international customers to be able to make credit card payments into leaguesafe. When we encountered this issue, I commenced discussions with customer service and they were very quick and detailed with their responses. They were straight to the point and didn't try to d*ck me around. They were quick to admit that this facility had not been set up and immediately went to work to make it happen.
Within a few weeks, this feature had been successfully added and now all of my league members have been able to make successful payments for our league, including myself being in Australia. One of the best things about the service we received is that the same person was contactable and up to speed on our ongoing issue, keeping me informed with ongoing updates.
I'd be more than happy to attest that leaguesafe is legit and the only way to go for a high stakes league and/or internet start up league. To be honest, unless you had a league where you knew everyone and could 100% trust the commish, leaguesafe really does make sense and takes away so many of the money hassles a commish has to deal with.
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We had a great experience with it and may start using League Safe for our dynasty league (even though everyone knows me pretty well) as it will make everything so much easier and smoother. We had an issue with being able to pay out the money cause we initially made everyone vote on when the payout can be sent. But no one was checking their emails so it was worked out fairly quickly with customer service. I literally sent an email in the AM and was able to get it resolved before lunch.
A few months ago, I was looking to set-up a new dynasty league of mine on this service. Trouble is, we were having an early start-up draft in February. This meant I needed to get the league dues collected from all the owners. When I went to register my league on League Safe, I noticed that "NFL 2009" was not an option on the sign-up page. Only baseball and something like golf were available. So I contacted customer service explaining the situation, and within an hour they added an option for NFL 2009 leagues! This is just one example of the incredible service I have received.
ditka85
Footballguy
Thank you, sir.
FantasyTrader
Footballguy
Anything Charch does is guaranteed above board. Now if only all of these big national contest sites will get on board. I hope someday LeagueSafe becomes the "VeriSign" of the fantasy industy so that, when you see the LeagueSafe stamp you KNOW the prize pool is secure.
Everybody, as online fantasy players we can facilitate this. Email your contest sites and tell them your credit card is ready and waiting for them to get the LeagueSafe emblem prominantly displayed.
Everybody, as online fantasy players we can facilitate this. Email your contest sites and tell them your credit card is ready and waiting for them to get the LeagueSafe emblem prominantly displayed.
Wow! I know where to look when we're hiring next. All of these kind words are really heartening. We've worked really hard to be responsive to our user base. It's great to see that we've touched some FGs.
Related to the prize pool issue, as the president of the FSTA, I'm closely watching the payment concerns we've seen with AFFL, Dime Sports, and Fantasy Jungle. If the accusations against them are true, these companies are damaging the industry. LeagueSafe could certainly help here, but ultimately, game players can help themselves by demanding that game providers hold their prizing pool in some form of escrow.
Related to the prize pool issue, as the president of the FSTA, I'm closely watching the payment concerns we've seen with AFFL, Dime Sports, and Fantasy Jungle. If the accusations against them are true, these companies are damaging the industry. LeagueSafe could certainly help here, but ultimately, game players can help themselves by demanding that game providers hold their prizing pool in some form of escrow.
I thought I should check back in, and confirm what we accomplished over the past few months.
New Feature No. 1: League Rollover. Commissioners, you can roll over your 2008 league to a shiny new 2009 league with the click of a button. You won’t need to re-enter email addresses, send invitations, or pass any votes. All of the old teams will automatically be joined with the new league, and you’ll operate under the same rules as you did last year. Commissioners, look for the “Rollover League” link on your commissioner menu.
New Feature No. 2: Early Deposit Deadlines. Optionally, commissioners may set an earlier deposit deadline than the one that LeagueSafe assigns. For the 2009 NFL season, LeagueSafe’s deposit deadline is October 5th. If your league mandates earlier payment, commissioners can adjust the deadline to any earlier date.
New Feature No. 3: Late Payment Options. LeagueSafe now supports late payments by league members, up to 60 days after the normal deposit deadline. As an incentive to pay on time, LeagueSafe charges a fee for late payments. And, if your league chooses to allow late payments, you can levy an additional fee to be added to your league’s balance. This is an optional feature, and requires commissioner activation.
New Feature No. 4: Free (And Cheap) Withdrawal Pricing. Like last year, winners can with withdraw funds at no cost when choosing our preloaded Visa option. New this year, we’ve lowered the price of paper check withdrawals to 99 cents. Our fastest withdrawal option, E-check, is now $5.
New Feature No. 5: Ability To Pay League Fees From Your Existing Balance. If you’ve got money in your LeagueSafe balance from winning a previous league, you can now pay your league fees from your existing balance.
New Feature No. 6: Express Setup Leagues. This is a simplified setup process for leagues with trusted friends and for office pools. The commissioner has total control over the league. The invitation process is simplified, and there are no votes to be cast. It’s ideal for any league that doesn’t require the trust-based security features that we implement in standard leagues.
There are many other smaller improvements that you’ll find as you peruse the new LeagueSafe site.
New Feature No. 1: League Rollover. Commissioners, you can roll over your 2008 league to a shiny new 2009 league with the click of a button. You won’t need to re-enter email addresses, send invitations, or pass any votes. All of the old teams will automatically be joined with the new league, and you’ll operate under the same rules as you did last year. Commissioners, look for the “Rollover League” link on your commissioner menu.
New Feature No. 2: Early Deposit Deadlines. Optionally, commissioners may set an earlier deposit deadline than the one that LeagueSafe assigns. For the 2009 NFL season, LeagueSafe’s deposit deadline is October 5th. If your league mandates earlier payment, commissioners can adjust the deadline to any earlier date.
New Feature No. 3: Late Payment Options. LeagueSafe now supports late payments by league members, up to 60 days after the normal deposit deadline. As an incentive to pay on time, LeagueSafe charges a fee for late payments. And, if your league chooses to allow late payments, you can levy an additional fee to be added to your league’s balance. This is an optional feature, and requires commissioner activation.
New Feature No. 4: Free (And Cheap) Withdrawal Pricing. Like last year, winners can with withdraw funds at no cost when choosing our preloaded Visa option. New this year, we’ve lowered the price of paper check withdrawals to 99 cents. Our fastest withdrawal option, E-check, is now $5.
New Feature No. 5: Ability To Pay League Fees From Your Existing Balance. If you’ve got money in your LeagueSafe balance from winning a previous league, you can now pay your league fees from your existing balance.
New Feature No. 6: Express Setup Leagues. This is a simplified setup process for leagues with trusted friends and for office pools. The commissioner has total control over the league. The invitation process is simplified, and there are no votes to be cast. It’s ideal for any league that doesn’t require the trust-based security features that we implement in standard leagues.
There are many other smaller improvements that you’ll find as you peruse the new LeagueSafe site.
Northbound Train
Footballguy
We're giving it a go for a Fantasy Baseball league right now and if all goes well I plan on using it for most leagues from here on out. I commish 4-5 leagues and collecting/tracking and depositing can be a nightmare sometimes.
It was very easy to manage for our baseball league so it's something I am looking forward to for upcoming years.
It was very easy to manage for our baseball league so it's something I am looking forward to for upcoming years.
stugnut
Footballguy
Does LeagueSafe report winnings to the IRS?
No. Because we're not a contest/game/sweepstakes, we don't need to report to the IRS any more than your bank would need to for a league with offline payments. So, we keep that responsibility with individual winners to prepare their taxes appropriately.Charch
pretender
Footballguy
For any commissioners out there using leaguesafe - which payout option does your league use
Commissioner has control
Majority votes
Entire league votes
We are looking at using leaguesafe for our league but there is a big question on this. If you chose majority votes and there is some sort of problem with perhaps a questionable trade and owners decide not to vote and you don't get 51% how does the money ever get distributed?
Also in a dynasty league you almost always have a rule asking for a deposit of 50% of next years dues to trade future draftpicks and you aren't allowed to deposit money into leaguesafe at a later date - and if you tell your league - hey everyone has to pay 1.5 percent of league dues because some of the owners want to trade draftpicks....what do you do?
TIA
Commissioner has control
Majority votes
Entire league votes
We are looking at using leaguesafe for our league but there is a big question on this. If you chose majority votes and there is some sort of problem with perhaps a questionable trade and owners decide not to vote and you don't get 51% how does the money ever get distributed?
Also in a dynasty league you almost always have a rule asking for a deposit of 50% of next years dues to trade future draftpicks and you aren't allowed to deposit money into leaguesafe at a later date - and if you tell your league - hey everyone has to pay 1.5 percent of league dues because some of the owners want to trade draftpicks....what do you do?
TIA
More to the deadline question. When can owners get a refund and when can't they get a refund and how can one control it?I thought i read somewhere on the FAQ that they owners up to the 4th week?& where does any late fees go?
Dave Larkin
Moderator
Very reliable site. I highly recommend it.
gandalas
Footballguy
Our league has a majority vote rule. I guess you just have to be confident in who your league-mates are and the fact that they will not be petty. Thankfully we have not had that issue, although I had to get after a few people to vote just out of sheer laziness.As far as the extra paying for future seasons, I am almost positive that you can pay extra at ANY point - we have the rule that if you want to trade draft picks you must pay the entire next season's fee, and we did not have any problems with it.Basically, the money just gets assigned to that person, and then at the end of the season there is a way to use that extra for their following season's dues. I just did it for this upcoming season, but I cannot remember what exactly I had to do to do it.
pretender
Footballguy
I asked the question at Leaguesafe and they said yes we could add money after the deadline but we would be charged a 10.00 fee. So I would be very interested to know how you were able to do this. It would solve some problems for us for sure.
gandalas
Footballguy
I definitely don't remember any 10.00 fee. Maybe they were referring to deposits for the current season that are after the deadline? A de-facto late fee?I asked the question at Leaguesafe and they said yes we could add money after the deadline but we would be charged a 10.00 fee. So I would be very interested to know how you were able to do this. It would solve some problems for us for sure.
pretender
Footballguy
It says on the site that any deposits made after Sept 23rd I think is considered late and will be charged 10.00 fee. So if someone in the league makes a trade in October or November that includes a future draftpick - we won't process trade unless 50 percent is paid. So you think they can send you as the commissioner the money and you can deposit it and put it towards that person without a penalty? Or the owner trading the pick would have to deposit it themselves in their account?ETA this was their responseThanks for contacting us. There are ways to accomplish what you are looking to do. Typically when leagues want to collect extra money for in-season fees we recommend they build that into the entry fee charged for the league. So if the entry fee for the league is $100 and the expected annual fees are $50 then we'd recommend you set their entry fee on LeagueSafe to $150. Any unused funds can be left in the league balance and rolled over to the next season.Additionally, at the end of the season there will be an opportunity for the league to assign in-season fees that need to be paid in. This is another way to get money into the league that is owned for in-season transactions, the only consideration here is that you cannot deposit more than 25% of your total league balance as end of season fees. Meaning that if your league balance is $400, at the end of the season your league cannot deposit more than an additiaional $100 in end of season fees. If you know there will be a lot of in-season fees we recommend to collect more money upfront when they season starts and then just reallocate the unused funds back to the correct teams at the end of the season. I hope that helps. Please let us know if you have any other questions.Color me confusedI definitely don't remember any 10.00 fee. Maybe they were referring to deposits for the current season that are after the deadline? A de-facto late fee?I asked the question at Leaguesafe and they said yes we could add money after the deadline but we would be charged a 10.00 fee. So I would be very interested to know how you were able to do this. It would solve some problems for us for sure.
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footballsavvy
Footballguy
Just use the "commishioner decides" option. I mean, the point of leaguesafe is mostly so that the league knows where the money is and that the commissioner is not spending the cash during the season. It seems like every case that has ever popped up where people didn't receive payouts was due to the commissioner not having the money at the end of the season. Typically it is because it was gambled away due to self control issues.
I would think it to be an extremely rare situation in which a commissioner would actually go through the procedure of declaring himself the 100% payee and having the fund withdrawn to his own account. Either his bank account info or physical address would likely be in the leaguesafe database if he has collected funds.
The majority vote option seems a little risky to me. Maybe I'm being cynical but I would worry about some sort of league dissention over some quirky rule or something and having trouble getting the money released to the right people. Also, in some leagues we have owners that are tuned out pretty hard core once they don't make the playoffs. It would be like pulling teeth getting them logged in to vote.
I used Leaguesafe two years ago and used the "commish decides" option and no one even asked me about it. I didn't really expect anyone to have a problem with it, and they didn't.
I would think it to be an extremely rare situation in which a commissioner would actually go through the procedure of declaring himself the 100% payee and having the fund withdrawn to his own account. Either his bank account info or physical address would likely be in the leaguesafe database if he has collected funds.
The majority vote option seems a little risky to me. Maybe I'm being cynical but I would worry about some sort of league dissention over some quirky rule or something and having trouble getting the money released to the right people. Also, in some leagues we have owners that are tuned out pretty hard core once they don't make the playoffs. It would be like pulling teeth getting them logged in to vote.
I used Leaguesafe two years ago and used the "commish decides" option and no one even asked me about it. I didn't really expect anyone to have a problem with it, and they didn't.
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pretender
Footballguy
We actually did a vote and the majority of the owners said commish decides. We lost an owner because of that. He was burned by not getting some winnings and swore he wouldn't join another league without leaguesafe and more than 1 person in control. Oh well. Thanks for your input!
Shutout
Footballguy
using it for the first time this year.
I've had some problems making some things work out but I admit, they absolutely were things that were related to my understanding or interpretation of how to set things up. I don't bring that up to say "It has problems" or "bugs". I bring it up so I can report my GREAT interactions I have had with Laura and Tom and some of their other supporters. I have had a small handfull of issues (owners changing emails, paying directly to MFL, etc) and they have walked me through each issue entirely and made sure I was helped out. In today's world, that is BIG to me. They don't just sign you up and hang you out there. They really do work with you. For that alone, I like them.
Granted, I have not went through an entire season to be able to report that it works exactly as advertised from start to finsih, but so far, it has.
A few posted above about the deadline and the $10 fee. All that IS there and does occur but all in all its really very easy to work to your intent. If you want a deadline and a fee, you can do it. If you don't want to impose one, you have to think a bit and set dates and decide on options. If you set it and mess up, its fixable (one of my support issues).
Honestly, I did it this year ONLY because people starting a league with me had been burned or had read about all the commish stealing money fallout stories here this season. So I said if it puts people at ease, we will try it. I have been happy with it. I really DO like not having to sock money away and hold it. If I had anything that I don't care too much about, its the options on the prices/ways you get paid but hey, its a business so thats understandable.
oh, and the debit cards work exactly as advertised (I had that come up too and I received my card in about 8 days and used it within an hour of activating it.
I've had some problems making some things work out but I admit, they absolutely were things that were related to my understanding or interpretation of how to set things up. I don't bring that up to say "It has problems" or "bugs". I bring it up so I can report my GREAT interactions I have had with Laura and Tom and some of their other supporters. I have had a small handfull of issues (owners changing emails, paying directly to MFL, etc) and they have walked me through each issue entirely and made sure I was helped out. In today's world, that is BIG to me. They don't just sign you up and hang you out there. They really do work with you. For that alone, I like them.
Granted, I have not went through an entire season to be able to report that it works exactly as advertised from start to finsih, but so far, it has.
A few posted above about the deadline and the $10 fee. All that IS there and does occur but all in all its really very easy to work to your intent. If you want a deadline and a fee, you can do it. If you don't want to impose one, you have to think a bit and set dates and decide on options. If you set it and mess up, its fixable (one of my support issues).
Honestly, I did it this year ONLY because people starting a league with me had been burned or had read about all the commish stealing money fallout stories here this season. So I said if it puts people at ease, we will try it. I have been happy with it. I really DO like not having to sock money away and hold it. If I had anything that I don't care too much about, its the options on the prices/ways you get paid but hey, its a business so thats understandable.
oh, and the debit cards work exactly as advertised (I had that come up too and I received my card in about 8 days and used it within an hour of activating it.
footballsavvy
Footballguy
I guess i'd like to know what most people do. Maybe its less of a problem than I think it is getting 7 people to vote at the end ofthe season. So how does this work? When the season is over the commissioner assigns payout dollar amounts to the winning teams and the league votes to approve those amounts? So basically as long as the amounts correspond directly to the league bylaws - and the winners are clear cut, then there should be no problems? Sounds like something I could be "cautionsly optimistic" about utilizing. Still, I recall too many issues from many years ago that would have convoluted such a system. Of course this was back when we didn't even talk about payouts until around november, and there was no such thing as by laws lol. "How many teams make the playoffs? Are we paying out 3rd place?" etc hehWe actually did a vote and the majority of the owners said commish decides. We lost an owner because of that. He was burned by not getting some winnings and swore he wouldn't join another league without leaguesafe and more than 1 person in control. Oh well. Thanks for your input!
pretender
Footballguy
As our commissioner stated - for instance 2 teams make a trade - it makes owners upset for some reason - not a collusion trade but say then both of these teams finish 1 and 2 - you have some hard core owners that remember that trade and then yell foul at the end of the season and refuse to vote. Then the owners that are supposed to get money start yelling at the commissioner about not getting paid.....probably wouldn't happen but one never knows. He didn't want to even have the possibility of something going haywire like that. Almost all the owners gave him the control to put in the amounts the way the by-laws state money should be paid out and distribute it accordingly. And that is a good point that owners can see where the money is all season long and know that it hasn't been tampered with. That should take care of trust issues I would hope. Just our thoughts.I guess i'd like to know what most people do. Maybe its less of a problem than I think it is getting 7 people to vote at the end ofthe season. So how does this work? When the season is over the commissioner assigns payout dollar amounts to the winning teams and the league votes to approve those amounts? So basically as long as the amounts correspond directly to the league bylaws - and the winners are clear cut, then there should be no problems? Sounds like something I could be "cautionsly optimistic" about utilizing. Still, I recall too many issues from many years ago that would have convoluted such a system. Of course this was back when we didn't even talk about payouts until around november, and there was no such thing as by laws lol. "How many teams make the playoffs? Are we paying out 3rd place?" etc hehWe actually did a vote and the majority of the owners said commish decides. We lost an owner because of that. He was burned by not getting some winnings and swore he wouldn't join another league without leaguesafe and more than 1 person in control. Oh well. Thanks for your input!
Shtaym Syek
Footballguy
Sudoku_in_the_Bathtub
Footballguy
This is the one option I do have a problem with. Why even use leaguesafe with this option? So you know WHERE the money is? (Yay?) Nothing to stop the commish from just paying himself.Actually requested and received a refund from LeagueSafe (before the set payment deadline) because the commissioner was changing rules on the fly and he himself didn't pay. (And to this day has yet to pay)Point of using Leaguesafe for me is taking all the power out of the commissioner's hands. Too many commissioners out there that overstate how difficult to run a league is -- MFL can run these leagues on their own. A lot of the drama in leagues are brought upon by commissioner's themselves trying to meddle in things they shouldn't.
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UnderDawgs
Footballguy
This will be our second year using Leaguesafe. Everything was smooth as silk. Monies were paid promptly and everyone thought it was *the* way to go!
Craig_MiamiFL
Footballguy
Agreed. Never again will I join a league like this.Joined a league with this, commish changes waivers/rules in the first couple weeks in the season AND just now Week 14....he changes PAYOUTS!!! WTF?? Seriously changing payouts when the playoffs start?!? [LOL he's now giving $100 to each of the 2ND PLACE division owners.....of all things]Luckly, the bozo set the Payment Deadline for the end of September, I got a refund before then (due to inseason changes)....and am still playing...as he's yet to notice I've gotten a refund
The commish has yet to pay this portion of the league fee too....Thanks LeagueSafe.
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JohnnyU
Footballguy
Not using the Majority Vote completely nullifies the advantages of using LeagueSafe. You ensure the commissioner / treasurer cannot run off with the money by having the Majority Vote option. Anyone that would give up total control of the finances to one person in leaguesafe, removes the reason most use LeagueSafe in the first place and that is to protect your league's entry fees.We actually did a vote and the majority of the owners said commish decides. We lost an owner because of that. He was burned by not getting some winnings and swore he wouldn't join another league without leaguesafe and more than 1 person in control. Oh well. Thanks for your input!
Donsmith753
Footballguy
Using LeagueSafe for the first time this year but just spotted a potential issue. Our league rules state that when a future pick is traded fees for that year are due immediately. How do LeagueSafe users handle this?
Spin
Footballguy
Unless they've recently changed something, they couldn't handle it a few years ago when we looked at it, which is why we opted not to. We required 50% of future dues if you trade a future pick. I talked to someone at LeagueSafe and when we talked to them (I think it was 2010, not sure) they couldn't do it. If you find a solution to this answer let me know and we may consider going with them now. Collecting money for this league is pretty seamless but I'd love to have someone else handle it instead of me.
Craig_MiamiFL
Footballguy
Anyone know if leaguesafe accepts pre-paid credit cards?? Have owner in league asking if they do. Figure someone here may know. I asked their customer support but haven't heard back yet.
