1.1 Pick (1 Viewer)

With the way the draft went who do you feel is the 1.1?

McFadden - There is no one really in his way but he does have a bunch of other rbs in the backfield. Does he become the obvious number 1 or does he still have something else to prove?

Stewart- He has DWill to contend with but he is very explosive and fits what Fox likes to have on the team. Stewart can carry the load but does his little nagging injuries scare any of you from picking him number 1.

I would have put Medenhall in this discussion but most of us draft the 1.1 to have production the first year.

McFadden will likely go #1.

You should make this a poll.

McFadden. Best talent and best situation. Should win this easily.

I don't see how this is even a question.

Unless you're in a league with me. Then the answer is either Stewart or Mendenhall.

I went with Stewart. I feel his ceiling is almost as high as McFadden but McFadden's floor is much lower than Stewart. That is my opinion.

I think Mendenhall sits at #3 due to situation as he has a much more accomplished RB to pass. Talent wise I feel Mendenhall is on par with the other 2 so it just may take more time for him.

Andy Dufresne said:

I don't see how this is even a question.

Unless you're in a league with me. Then the answer is either Stewart or Mendenhall.

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Maybe you havnt heard, Mcfaddens legs are to skinny, just ask Mayock and his disciples here at FBG.

Shouldn't that be 1.01 pick, 1.02, etc?

urfriend said:

I would have put Medenhall in this discussion but most of us draft the 1.1 to have production the first year.

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Flashback, those are the same people who took Michael Bennett over Tomlinson. I'd take McFadden first, but IMO there's no doubt that I prefer Mendenhall in Pittsburgh to Stew in Carolina. And if you are taking the #1 to produce as a rookie, are you actually going to take the injured guy?

Where's the vote for none of the above?

switz said:

Where's the vote for none of the above?

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That would be the option called "trade down"

I'm really struggling to understand the Stewart love in Car. I had Stewart as a rather clear #2 behind McFadden heading into this draft, but honestly I can't think of many places that would have been worse for him to land. Car is a team with a proven track record of mismanaging RBs over the past few. They have a RB on the roster who they like and also spent a 1st round pick on. They have proven mind numbingly loyal to veteran players in the past. Oh, and they haven't been a good rushing team in 5 years. Someone care to explain the love here.

jurb26 said:

I'm really struggling to understand the Stewart love in Car. I had Stewart as a rather clear #2 behind McFadden heading into this draft, but honestly I can't think of many places that would have been worse for him to land. Car is a team with a proven track record of mismanaging RBs over the past few. They have a RB on the roster who they like and also spent a 1st round pick on. They have proven mind numbingly loyal to veteran players in the past. Oh, and they haven't been a good rushing team in 5 years. Someone care to explain the love here.

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This is a very good point and the first time I've seen it on the board. Fox does stick with his vets.

aDingoAteMyBaby said:

jurb26 said:

I'm really struggling to understand the Stewart love in Car. I had Stewart as a rather clear #2 behind McFadden heading into this draft, but honestly I can't think of many places that would have been worse for him to land. Car is a team with a proven track record of mismanaging RBs over the past few. They have a RB on the roster who they like and also spent a 1st round pick on. They have proven mind numbingly loyal to veteran players in the past. Oh, and they haven't been a good rushing team in 5 years. Someone care to explain the love here.

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This is a very good point and the first time I've seen it on the board. Fox does stick with his vets.

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This situation has RBBC written all over it. Oregon went to a RBBC because Stewart couldn't stay healthy. Now I think Car will do the same. Stewart and the Car RB situation will be one a lot around here complain about and vent over for the next few years IMO. Car will become the new Den when it comes to RBs in fantasy circles. Nothing but headaches.

I would take McFadden, the consensus best running back prospect going to the #6 rushing offense could be good.

Andy Dufresne said:

I don't see how this is even a question.Unless you're in a league with me. Then the answer is either Stewart or Mendenhall.

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Or unless you play in a league that doesn't overvalue RBs. In my league, Ryan is a pretty clearcut #1. Harder to find a starting QB than it is a RB since we can start 2 QBs, and 1st round QB salaries are a lot more cap friendly than are 1st round RB salaries.

GregR said:

Andy Dufresne said:

I don't see how this is even a question.

Unless you're in a league with me. Then the answer is either Stewart or Mendenhall.

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Or unless you play in a league that doesn't overvalue QBs. In my league, Ryan is a pretty clearcut #1. Harder to find a starting QB than it is a RB since we can start 2 QBs, and 1st round QB salaries are a lot more cap friendly than are 1st round RB salaries.

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But the questions are NEVER geared towards such a league. If they are, its specified.

jurb26 said:

McFadden. Best talent and best situation. Should win this easily.

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I had McFadden #1 with Mendenhall as a maybe... if he landed in Hou or Denver then I would of considered him... now there is no question who is #1.

McFadden

Its not really even close.

BigSteelThrill said:

GregR said:

Andy Dufresne said:

I don't see how this is even a question.

Unless you're in a league with me. Then the answer is either Stewart or Mendenhall.

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Or unless you play in a league that doesn't overvalue RBs. In my league, Ryan is a pretty clearcut #1. Harder to find a starting QB than it is a RB since we can start 2 QBs, and 1st round QB salaries are a lot more cap friendly than are 1st round RB salaries.

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But the questions are NEVER geared towards such a league. If they are, its specified.

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Which is probably why I specified what kind of league my answer was addressed towards.

jurb26 said:

I'm really struggling to understand the Stewart love in Car. I had Stewart as a rather clear #2 behind McFadden heading into this draft, but honestly I can't think of many places that would have been worse for him to land. Car is a team with a proven track record of mismanaging RBs over the past few. They have a RB on the roster who they like and also spent a 1st round pick on. They have proven mind numbingly loyal to veteran players in the past. Oh, and they haven't been a good rushing team in 5 years. Someone care to explain the love here.

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I would be happy to answer that question for you.....Back in January, Jerry met with Coach Fox and Marty Hurney at his lake house over the weekend to discuss their game plan for the Panthers getting back into the playoffs. There were a few quotes from the paper regarding this meeting and basically, they indicated that they felt like the Panthers had lost their way about being a power running team. Fox likes to run the ball effectively and control the clock and last year it was very evident that we could NOT do that as we had many 3 and outs and the D kept going out on the field. They would run out of gas late in the 3rd and 4th quarters and were blown out more than once over the course of the season.In March, when FA period started the Panthers started collecting several very large OGs to bolster our OL after Hartwig and Wahle were released and the Panthers signed T. Wharton with the hopes of sliding him over to LG and moving Gross to LT. The Panthers were also looking to grab a top OT in the draft so I had thought that we would go for either RB to compliment DW or OT to continue to re-built our OL. The Panthers like DW, but my guess is that they do not see him as a power runner no matter how much they like him. The Panthers team doctor was the surgeon that worked on Jonathan Stewart back in March and the Panthers did their homework on him and they felt like he was their best option at #13 so they grabbed him to help him push the pile and move the chains with his ability to run between the tackles. They stunned me with their trade with the Eagles to grab Otah and give up their 2nd, 4th and their 1st rounder next year to continue to re-make the OL to get the road grader they were hoping to land. It was a huge price to pay, but the OL is now shaping up to me much bigger and stronger this year and with Stewart, likely to be the starter with DW as a change of pace back the Panthers should be much better offensively this year and take some pressure off S. Smith as defenses will now have to contend with Stewart and DJ Hackett.My best guess at this point is that Stewart will see 20-25 touches per game, while DW will get about 10-12 per game and provide much needed insurance if Stewart goes down for a longer period of time. I really like what they did on Saturday, but not too happy that they sacrificed the 1st rounder in 2009, but if the Panthers miss the playoffs for the third straight year, missing the 2009 1st rounder will not be Fox's and Hurney's problem as they will both be gone, so the loyality that you spoke about will likely change as they both realize the leash is short this year - - Playoffs on Bust! I think Stewart and his power will turn into a TD machine as the Panthers have tried over the past few years to run it in, but didn't have the RB to do that.... THEY DO NOW! I have season tickets for the past three years and I am more excited about the Panthers now than in the past as I think Stewart and Otah will have a BIG impact on the Carolina offense this year!Hope this helps you understand why Stewart may be a good pick in upcoming FF drafts in July and August!

jurb26 said:

aDingoAteMyBaby said:

jurb26 said:

I'm really struggling to understand the Stewart love in Car. I had Stewart as a rather clear #2 behind McFadden heading into this draft, but honestly I can't think of many places that would have been worse for him to land. Car is a team with a proven track record of mismanaging RBs over the past few. They have a RB on the roster who they like and also spent a 1st round pick on. They have proven mind numbingly loyal to veteran players in the past. Oh, and they haven't been a good rushing team in 5 years. Someone care to explain the love here.

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This is a very good point and the first time I've seen it on the board. Fox does stick with his vets.

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This situation has RBBC written all over it. Oregon went to a RBBC because Stewart couldn't stay healthy. Now I think Car will do the same. Stewart and the Car RB situation will be one a lot around here complain about and vent over for the next few years IMO. Car will become the new Den when it comes to RBs in fantasy circles. Nothing but headaches.

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I disagree with that statement. Stewart is probably the best, well rounded back that we have ever drafted in our 13 year history and he is in the mold of Stephen Davis circa 2003 when we made the Super Bowl. However, he is stronger and much younger and he fits to a tee, what Fox wants to do in his overall strategy. DW will get touches and he should as he is a good RB, but don't make any mistake about it.... Stewart will be the 1RB for the Panthers come September and will see good numbers and TDs in his rookie year. I will make an early prediction for the Panthers RBs that I may update once I see the results of camp, but my first estimate would be:Jonathan Stewart

270 carries - 1,300 yds - 12 TDs

DeAngelo Williams

120 carries - 500 yds - 3 TDs

PSULions said:

Jonathan Stewart

270 carries - 1,300 yds - 12 TDs

DeAngelo Williams

120 carries - 500 yds - 3 TDs

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Stew is going to have a 4.8+ YPC his rookie yr w/ 12 TDs. Those 2 together will not get 12 TDs. Look, its RBBC, they both are going to come around 800 yds each.

KellysHeroes said:

PSULions said:

Jonathan Stewart

270 carries - 1,300 yds - 12 TDs

DeAngelo Williams

120 carries - 500 yds - 3 TDs

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Stew is going to have a 4.8+ YPC his rookie yr w/ 12 TDs. Those 2 together will not get 12 TDs. Look, its RBBC, they both are going to come around 800 yds each.

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If that is what you think will be their stats... that is fine. I was trying to base my guess and that is what it is a guess based on my knowledge of the Panthers being a season ticket holder and someone that watches all the pre-season games, listens to the talk on sports radio and reads the local beat writers information on my team. They have bulked up their OL considerably and drafted the best RB in the team's brief history, hence my projection that Stewart will get about 2/3 of the touches vs. DW getting the other 1/3. Yes, it is RBBC, but I happen to believe it will be slanted heavily towards Stewart, especially with the TD projections. Back in 2003, when the Panthers had SD 318 / 1,444 / 8 TDs and Foster (rookie year) 113 / 429 / 0 TDs that combo resulted in 431 / 1873 / 8. If you look at AP 238 / 1341 / 12 and C. Taylor 157 / 844 / 7 last year they combined for a fantastic year at 395 / 2185 / 19.

I happen to think a young Stewart is probably better than SD towards the end of his career and stronger (hence more TDs) and DW is probably better than Foster as a rookie. Comparing AP & Taylor to Stewart / DW makes me think that my numbers seem about what Stew/DW could accomplish based on the ratio of carries that I think they will get. My projections may be high, but I think they are reachable numbers that could result in 390 / 1800 / 15. Will they reach them... who knows until December, but I am trying to help my fellow FBGs with my knowledge of my Homer team. Hey, it is all in fun and you can take them at face value when you look at RBs for your drafts in July and August, but at least I am willing to go out on a limb and make an educated guess based on what I know about Fox's intentions to be a power running team and run the ball more effectively this year.

If you think they are going to split carries 50%/50%, I would like to hear why you think that, and what you think their # of carries, yards and TDs may be?

PSULions said:

KellysHeroes said:

PSULions said:

Jonathan Stewart

270 carries - 1,300 yds - 12 TDs

DeAngelo Williams

120 carries - 500 yds - 3 TDs

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Stew is going to have a 4.8+ YPC his rookie yr w/ 12 TDs. Those 2 together will not get 12 TDs. Look, its RBBC, they both are going to come around 800 yds each.

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If that is what you think will be their stats... that is fine. I was trying to base my guess and that is what it is a guess based on my knowledge of the Panthers being a season ticket holder and someone that watches all the pre-season games, listens to the talk on sports radio and reads the local beat writers information on my team. They have bulked up their OL considerably and drafted the best RB in the team's brief history, hence my projection that Stewart will get about 2/3 of the touches vs. DW getting the other 1/3. Yes, it is RBBC, but I happen to believe it will be slanted heavily towards Stewart, especially with the TD projections. Back in 2003, when the Panthers had SD 318 / 1,444 / 8 TDs and Foster (rookie year) 113 / 429 / 0 TDs that combo resulted in 431 / 1873 / 8. If you look at AP 238 / 1341 / 12 and C. Taylor 157 / 844 / 7 last year they combined for a fantastic year at 395 / 2185 / 19.

I happen to think a young Stewart is probably better than SD towards the end of his career and stronger (hence more TDs) and DW is probably better than Foster as a rookie. Comparing AP & Taylor to Stewart / DW makes me think that my numbers seem about what Stew/DW could accomplish based on the ratio of carries that I think they will get. My projections may be high, but I think they are reachable numbers that could result in 390 / 1800 / 15. Will they reach them... who knows until December, but I am trying to help my fellow FBGs with my knowledge of my Homer team. Hey, it is all in fun and you can take them at face value when you look at RBs for your drafts in July and August, but at least I am willing to go out on a limb and make an educated guess based on what I know about Fox's intentions to be a power running team and run the ball more effectively this year.

If you think they are going to split carries 50%/50%, I would like to hear why you think that, and what you think their # of carries, yards and TDs may be?

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Panthers insiders know that Stewart will see the monster load of carries, not split with DA. 70-30 at least.

switz said:

PSULions said:

KellysHeroes said:

PSULions said:

Jonathan Stewart

270 carries - 1,300 yds - 12 TDs

DeAngelo Williams

120 carries - 500 yds - 3 TDs

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Stew is going to have a 4.8+ YPC his rookie yr w/ 12 TDs. Those 2 together will not get 12 TDs. Look, its RBBC, they both are going to come around 800 yds each.

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If that is what you think will be their stats... that is fine. I was trying to base my guess and that is what it is a guess based on my knowledge of the Panthers being a season ticket holder and someone that watches all the pre-season games, listens to the talk on sports radio and reads the local beat writers information on my team. They have bulked up their OL considerably and drafted the best RB in the team's brief history, hence my projection that Stewart will get about 2/3 of the touches vs. DW getting the other 1/3. Yes, it is RBBC, but I happen to believe it will be slanted heavily towards Stewart, especially with the TD projections. Back in 2003, when the Panthers had SD 318 / 1,444 / 8 TDs and Foster (rookie year) 113 / 429 / 0 TDs that combo resulted in 431 / 1873 / 8. If you look at AP 238 / 1341 / 12 and C. Taylor 157 / 844 / 7 last year they combined for a fantastic year at 395 / 2185 / 19.

I happen to think a young Stewart is probably better than SD towards the end of his career and stronger (hence more TDs) and DW is probably better than Foster as a rookie. Comparing AP & Taylor to Stewart / DW makes me think that my numbers seem about what Stew/DW could accomplish based on the ratio of carries that I think they will get. My projections may be high, but I think they are reachable numbers that could result in 390 / 1800 / 15. Will they reach them... who knows until December, but I am trying to help my fellow FBGs with my knowledge of my Homer team. Hey, it is all in fun and you can take them at face value when you look at RBs for your drafts in July and August, but at least I am willing to go out on a limb and make an educated guess based on what I know about Fox's intentions to be a power running team and run the ball more effectively this year.

If you think they are going to split carries 50%/50%, I would like to hear why you think that, and what you think their # of carries, yards and TDs may be?

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Panthers insiders know that Stewart will see the monster load of carries, not split with DA. 70-30 at least.

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I've come to realize over the years that Panthers insiders aren't really in the know.

jurb26 said:

switz said:

PSULions said:

KellysHeroes said:

PSULions said:

Jonathan Stewart

270 carries - 1,300 yds - 12 TDs

DeAngelo Williams

120 carries - 500 yds - 3 TDs

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Stew is going to have a 4.8+ YPC his rookie yr w/ 12 TDs. Those 2 together will not get 12 TDs. Look, its RBBC, they both are going to come around 800 yds each.

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If that is what you think will be their stats... that is fine. I was trying to base my guess and that is what it is a guess based on my knowledge of the Panthers being a season ticket holder and someone that watches all the pre-season games, listens to the talk on sports radio and reads the local beat writers information on my team. They have bulked up their OL considerably and drafted the best RB in the team's brief history, hence my projection that Stewart will get about 2/3 of the touches vs. DW getting the other 1/3. Yes, it is RBBC, but I happen to believe it will be slanted heavily towards Stewart, especially with the TD projections. Back in 2003, when the Panthers had SD 318 / 1,444 / 8 TDs and Foster (rookie year) 113 / 429 / 0 TDs that combo resulted in 431 / 1873 / 8. If you look at AP 238 / 1341 / 12 and C. Taylor 157 / 844 / 7 last year they combined for a fantastic year at 395 / 2185 / 19.

I happen to think a young Stewart is probably better than SD towards the end of his career and stronger (hence more TDs) and DW is probably better than Foster as a rookie. Comparing AP & Taylor to Stewart / DW makes me think that my numbers seem about what Stew/DW could accomplish based on the ratio of carries that I think they will get. My projections may be high, but I think they are reachable numbers that could result in 390 / 1800 / 15. Will they reach them... who knows until December, but I am trying to help my fellow FBGs with my knowledge of my Homer team. Hey, it is all in fun and you can take them at face value when you look at RBs for your drafts in July and August, but at least I am willing to go out on a limb and make an educated guess based on what I know about Fox's intentions to be a power running team and run the ball more effectively this year.

If you think they are going to split carries 50%/50%, I would like to hear why you think that, and what you think their # of carries, yards and TDs may be?

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Panthers insiders know that Stewart will see the monster load of carries, not split with DA. 70-30 at least.

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I've come to realize over the years that Panthers insiders aren't really in the know.

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I learned the hard way.

PSULions said:

KellysHeroes said:

PSULions said:

Jonathan Stewart

270 carries - 1,300 yds - 12 TDs

DeAngelo Williams

120 carries - 500 yds - 3 TDs

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Stew is going to have a 4.8+ YPC his rookie yr w/ 12 TDs. Those 2 together will not get 12 TDs. Look, its RBBC, they both are going to come around 800 yds each.

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If that is what you think will be their stats... that is fine. I was trying to base my guess and that is what it is a guess based on my knowledge of the Panthers being a season ticket holder and someone that watches all the pre-season games, listens to the talk on sports radio and reads the local beat writers information on my team. They have bulked up their OL considerably and drafted the best RB in the team's brief history, hence my projection that Stewart will get about 2/3 of the touches vs. DW getting the other 1/3. Yes, it is RBBC, but I happen to believe it will be slanted heavily towards Stewart, especially with the TD projections. Back in 2003, when the Panthers had SD 318 / 1,444 / 8 TDs and Foster (rookie year) 113 / 429 / 0 TDs that combo resulted in 431 / 1873 / 8. If you look at AP 238 / 1341 / 12 and C. Taylor 157 / 844 / 7 last year they combined for a fantastic year at 395 / 2185 / 19.

I happen to think a young Stewart is probably better than SD towards the end of his career and stronger (hence more TDs) and DW is probably better than Foster as a rookie. Comparing AP & Taylor to Stewart / DW makes me think that my numbers seem about what Stew/DW could accomplish based on the ratio of carries that I think they will get. My projections may be high, but I think they are reachable numbers that could result in 390 / 1800 / 15. Will they reach them... who knows until December, but I am trying to help my fellow FBGs with my knowledge of my Homer team. Hey, it is all in fun and you can take them at face value when you look at RBs for your drafts in July and August, but at least I am willing to go out on a limb and make an educated guess based on what I know about Fox's intentions to be a power running team and run the ball more effectively this year.

If you think they are going to split carries 50%/50%, I would like to hear why you think that, and what you think their # of carries, yards and TDs may be?

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Yes, I'm just voicing my opinion, but -

Can't have enough of these....

urfriend said:

With the way the draft went who do you feel is the 1.1?McFadden - There is no one really in his way but he does have a bunch of other rbs in the backfield. Does he become the obvious number 1 or does he still have something else to prove?Stewart- He has DWill to contend with but he is very explosive and fits what Fox likes to have on the team. Stewart can carry the load but does his little nagging injuries scare any of you from picking him number 1.I would have put Medenhall in this discussion but most of us draft the 1.1 to have production the first year.

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Why is this a question now? McFadden by a mile. Like I said months ago.

One said:

jurb26 said:

switz said:

PSULions said:

KellysHeroes said:

PSULions said:

Jonathan Stewart

270 carries - 1,300 yds - 12 TDs

DeAngelo Williams

120 carries - 500 yds - 3 TDs

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Stew is going to have a 4.8+ YPC his rookie yr w/ 12 TDs. Those 2 together will not get 12 TDs. Look, its RBBC, they both are going to come around 800 yds each.

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If that is what you think will be their stats... that is fine. I was trying to base my guess and that is what it is a guess based on my knowledge of the Panthers being a season ticket holder and someone that watches all the pre-season games, listens to the talk on sports radio and reads the local beat writers information on my team. They have bulked up their OL considerably and drafted the best RB in the team's brief history, hence my projection that Stewart will get about 2/3 of the touches vs. DW getting the other 1/3. Yes, it is RBBC, but I happen to believe it will be slanted heavily towards Stewart, especially with the TD projections. Back in 2003, when the Panthers had SD 318 / 1,444 / 8 TDs and Foster (rookie year) 113 / 429 / 0 TDs that combo resulted in 431 / 1873 / 8. If you look at AP 238 / 1341 / 12 and C. Taylor 157 / 844 / 7 last year they combined for a fantastic year at 395 / 2185 / 19.

I happen to think a young Stewart is probably better than SD towards the end of his career and stronger (hence more TDs) and DW is probably better than Foster as a rookie. Comparing AP & Taylor to Stewart / DW makes me think that my numbers seem about what Stew/DW could accomplish based on the ratio of carries that I think they will get. My projections may be high, but I think they are reachable numbers that could result in 390 / 1800 / 15. Will they reach them... who knows until December, but I am trying to help my fellow FBGs with my knowledge of my Homer team. Hey, it is all in fun and you can take them at face value when you look at RBs for your drafts in July and August, but at least I am willing to go out on a limb and make an educated guess based on what I know about Fox's intentions to be a power running team and run the ball more effectively this year.

If you think they are going to split carries 50%/50%, I would like to hear why you think that, and what you think their # of carries, yards and TDs may be?

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Panthers insiders know that Stewart will see the monster load of carries, not split with DA. 70-30 at least.

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I've come to realize over the years that Panthers insiders aren't really in the know.

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I learned the hard way.

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You just aren't listening to the right ones if you're making that statement.

In the 20 dynasty rookie drafts I've seen there have been 100% McFadden at #1. With this poll you would think there would be only 12, what's up with that? Weird huh?

Maroney=Speed said:

urfriend said:

With the way the draft went who do you feel is the 1.1?McFadden - There is no one really in his way but he does have a bunch of other rbs in the backfield. Does he become the obvious number 1 or does he still have something else to prove?Stewart- He has DWill to contend with but he is very explosive and fits what Fox likes to have on the team. Stewart can carry the load but does his little nagging injuries scare any of you from picking him number 1.I would have put Medenhall in this discussion but most of us draft the 1.1 to have production the first year.

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Why is this a question now? McFadden by a mile. Like I said months ago.

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Everyone knew who would go #1 in Fantasy drafts, so don't make it sound like you had a corner on the McFadden market. The real question is who is 1.2. I will say this however, a lot of those who have the 1.01 wish they could trade it for the 1.02+ or 1.03+. From everything I'm reading, both here and elsewhere, McFadden comes with some baggage, both personal and professional.

McFadden easy.

However....if your a Willie Parker owner sitting with the Number 2 pick....do you take Mendenhall and be patient or go for instant gratification in all liklyhood with Stewart?

Mmmmmmm.

Hoss_Cartwright said:

Maroney=Speed said:

urfriend said:

With the way the draft went who do you feel is the 1.1?McFadden - There is no one really in his way but he does have a bunch of other rbs in the backfield. Does he become the obvious number 1 or does he still have something else to prove?Stewart- He has DWill to contend with but he is very explosive and fits what Fox likes to have on the team. Stewart can carry the load but does his little nagging injuries scare any of you from picking him number 1.I would have put Medenhall in this discussion but most of us draft the 1.1 to have production the first year.

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Why is this a question now? McFadden by a mile. Like I said months ago.

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Everyone knew who would go #1 in Fantasy drafts, so don't make it sound like you had a corner on the McFadden market. The real question is who is 1.2. I will say this however, a lot of those who have the 1.01 wish they could trade it for the 1.02+ or 1.03+. From everything I'm reading, both here and elsewhere, McFadden comes with some baggage, both personal and professional.

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Ok, your wrong. I started up a post, were not many had McFadden at 1.01.You can look it up, or someone can link it here. So I might has well do this again. Don't worry I won't and you won't get tired of it. When your right, your right.

Hoss_Cartwright said:

Maroney=Speed said:

urfriend said:

With the way the draft went who do you feel is the 1.1?

McFadden - There is no one really in his way but he does have a bunch of other rbs in the backfield. Does he become the obvious number 1 or does he still have something else to prove?

Stewart- He has DWill to contend with but he is very explosive and fits what Fox likes to have on the team. Stewart can carry the load but does his little nagging injuries scare any of you from picking him number 1.

I would have put Medenhall in this discussion but most of us draft the 1.1 to have production the first year.

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Why is this a question now? McFadden by a mile. Like I said months ago.

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Everyone knew who would go #1 in Fantasy drafts, so don't make it sound like you had a corner on the McFadden market. The real question is who is 1.2. I will say this however, a lot of those who have the 1.01 wish they could trade it for the 1.02+ or 1.03+. From everything I'm reading, both here and elsewhere, McFadden comes with some baggage, both personal and professional.

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Couldn't disagree more. I actually had the 1.01 and 1.02 in one league and I got offers nonstop for the 1.01 and a decent amount of offers for the 1.02. I was offered someones entire draft for the 1.01. I wasn't trying to trade that pick unless a real knock your socks off offer came rolling in. McFadden is just that much better than the rest of this field IMO. McFadden is not only better and more talented but he also went to the best situation of the top 3 RBs. I actually moved both Stewart and Mendenhall down in my rankings (figuratively) post draft.... meaning McFadden opened the gap between him and them even more. I eventually traded the 1.02 to a Parker owner.

Hoss_Cartwright said:

Maroney=Speed said:

urfriend said:

With the way the draft went who do you feel is the 1.1?McFadden - There is no one really in his way but he does have a bunch of other rbs in the backfield. Does he become the obvious number 1 or does he still have something else to prove?Stewart- He has DWill to contend with but he is very explosive and fits what Fox likes to have on the team. Stewart can carry the load but does his little nagging injuries scare any of you from picking him number 1.I would have put Medenhall in this discussion but most of us draft the 1.1 to have production the first year.

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Why is this a question now? McFadden by a mile. Like I said months ago.

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Everyone knew who would go #1 in Fantasy drafts, so don't make it sound like you had a corner on the McFadden market. The real question is who is 1.2. I will say this however, a lot of those who have the 1.01 wish they could trade it for the 1.02+ or 1.03+. From everything I'm reading, both here and elsewhere, McFadden comes with some baggage, both personal and professional.

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Ok, looks like I had to do it. Just for starters: switz- no. Matter of fact He has McFadden at #4. You still stand by these rankings? dmac37: no. You still stand by these rankings?Mayock- no. Has Mendenhall, for now anyways. 4/17/08Bloom- no. ConstruxBoy(John)- noEBF- noBob Henry- no Has nothing to do with hate, just want to make sure,when we look back we have a easy way to find the answer. Cookiemonster- no FavreCo- no - Matter of fact He has McFadden at #4. zadok- no - Matter of fact He has McFadden at #5.Jedimaster21- no Almas_4th_Child- no gheemony - no FUBAR- no loose circuits - noJohnnyU - no Craig_MiamiFL - no Ned - no redman - Wildman - no Andy Dufresne- no coolnerd- no rabidfireweasel- no Football Jones- no {Syrus}- no The Scientist - Matter of fact He has McFadden at #4.Brutis- no kethnaab- no JimboJim - no So keep the rankings coming. 'Hoss_Cartwright' some big names didn't.

jurb26 said:

McFadden. Best talent and best situation. Should win this easily.

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I think McFadden is the second best talent in the second best situation. Stewart is going to be a better NFL back. Mendenhall, at least in the long term is in a far superior situation. For this year, I think Stewart, if he gets healthy before the season is going to shine. McFadden may come out of the gates strong, but I think he'll falter down the stretch. Al will want to show off his new toy, much like Gruden did with Caddy.

Maroney=Speed said:

Andy Dufresne- no

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What am I saying no to?

Andy Dufresne said:

Maroney=Speed said:

Andy Dufresne- no

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What am I saying no to?

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I think to his advances.

Sabertooth said:

jurb26 said:

McFadden. Best talent and best situation. Should win this easily.

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I think McFadden is the second best talent in the second best situation. Stewart is going to be a better NFL back. Mendenhall, at least in the long term is in a far superior situation. For this year, I think Stewart, if he gets healthy before the season is going to shine. McFadden may come out of the gates strong, but I think he'll falter down the stretch. Al will want to show off his new toy, much like Gruden did with Caddy.

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was thinking exactly the same thing.

Armor & Sword said:

McFadden easy.However....if your a Willie Parker owner sitting with the Number 2 pick....do you take Mendenhall and be patient or go for instant gratification in all liklyhood with Stewart?Mmmmmmm.

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I go M'hall 1.01, if I'm a Parker owner. Not like LT/Turner was, but like ADP/Chester (with Parker getting the better of it for the 1st 1/2 of the year). They produce well enough together, that you can start both in a pinch. Whichever one is getting the majority of the carries will likely be churning out 1K yds. M'hall likely will vulture a lot of TDs and may outscore Parker this year. FF guys, listen to the Steelers board. Many of the fans, the coaches and Willie himself are really looking for someone to share the backfield. Parker is more effective when carrying the ball less often. Kind of like Barber is, and MJD is, and Norwood is (god why won't they let him carry a couple more times a game?). As M'hall earnes the Steelers trust this year (AKA don't fumble), his touches will increase to at least 50/50 by seasons end and I wouldn't be surprised to find it closer to 60/40, M'hall. The only difference in M'hall and DMC for me this year, is that I think DMC has an easier path to 70% of the RB stats on his team - and Raider RBs have been scoring well for quite a while, Art Shell's season aside. I like the quallity of the franchise better in Pitt, and would rather have 70% of RB stats there for a career, but that won't come for a year or two. M'hall likely wasn't drafted so that Ben could throw for a ton of TDs again at the expense of the pounding he took last year. Look for the 'Burgh to return to a stat line similar to what they had for so long under Cowher. This is a Rooney-Run team and they hire the best coach they can find that has the personality and philosophy that fits. If I'm not a Parker owner, and getting the benefit of injury protection from a rookie who will likely score well enough to crack your starting lineup multiple times, as well as a replacement clause, then I probably go McFadden. If you like Stewart's skill set best, get him. I don't think our rankings should change all that much from our pre-draft rankings 'cause you should be drafting talent. Situation would have to dictate only if you rate them close in talent AND you need the immediate starter.

Andy Dufresne said:

Maroney=Speed said:

Andy Dufresne- no

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What am I saying no to?

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To not taking McFadden at 1.01. It's ok you can be wrong.

Maroney=Speed said:

Andy Dufresne said:

Maroney=Speed said:

Andy Dufresne- no

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What am I saying no to?

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To not taking McFadden at 1.01. It's ok you can be wrong.

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I'm saying no to not taking McFadden #1? So, I'm saying you should take McFadden #1?If so, I'm wrong about that?

Andy Dufresne said:

Maroney=Speed said:

Andy Dufresne said:

Maroney=Speed said:

Andy Dufresne- no

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What am I saying no to?

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To not taking McFadden at 1.01. It's ok you can be wrong.

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I'm saying no to not taking McFadden #1? So, I'm saying you should take McFadden #1?If so, I'm wrong about that?

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You said, or had McFadden NOT ranked #1 before NFL Draft. My 14 year old son how knows to take McFadden with pick 1.01. I'm just saying.You can do this to me it's ok.

Sorry my son also said, you have to check out K.Smith. So even my son knows how to break down tapes. Ok, He learned from the Best.

Maroney=Speed said:

You said, or had McFadden NOT ranked #1 before NFL Draft. My 14 year old son how knows to take McFadden with pick 1.01. I'm just saying.

You can do this to me it's ok.

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No I didn't.

Maroney=Speed said:

So even my son knows how to break down tapes. Ok, He learned from the Best.

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M=S,What do you got? Like a couple games on the Tivo?

Andy Dufresne said:

Maroney=Speed said:

You said, or had McFadden NOT ranked #1 before NFL Draft. My 14 year old son how knows to take McFadden with pick 1.01. I'm just saying.

You can do this to me it's ok.

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No I didn't.

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Yes, YOU did look it up. Someone please post, thanks. Because I know you had McFadden ranked 2nd. It's all good.

Someone help me out here. I've seen about 35-40 rookie drafts and McFadden went #1 in every single one. How is that possible when this poll only has him going first 60% of the time. I'm no math major but i smell BS in this poll.