I’m seeing and hearing that Martz is looking to move Hester to the slot and he gets back his return gig full time. We also know that Martz is the enemy of TEs every where. So who gets bumped Bennett, Knox, or Aromashodu? Or does Forte get the bump and the WRs split evenly? Does someone step up?
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Donnybrook
Footballguy
Is Mike Martz going to get Cutler killed?
http://www.profootballweekly.com/2010/04/0...e-on-whitehurst
http://www.profootballweekly.com/2010/04/0...e-on-whitehurst
Couch Potato
Footballguy
You're asking questions that are unanswerable until they hit the practice field and Martz begins working with the talent he has. Also, while the early info you read on Hester is correct, HC Lovie Smith later refuted that and said he's still a starter. You might want to investigate a little further because it's been awhile since I read the comments. There was also a fairly recent suggestion by someone in the organization, or a writer, or whatever, that Hester could be a 1,200 yard receiver.
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Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
That's funny because a week or so ago they came out and said that Hester was going to be relieved of all return duties so he could concentrate solely on being a WR.
Couch Potato
Footballguy
Yeah, I read something like that too not long ago (I thought I read he'd not have KR duties, while PR duties he'd keep). I think Tones is reading something old or reading someone whose info is old. I think a good idea would be to catch up more. Admittedly, I'm not all that motivated today to do the research, but I'm sure the links are out there to find. What was being said soon after Martz was hired and what has been said more recently are very different, especially regarding Hester.
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Aardvarks
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For his faults and perceived selfishness, the fact is that Cutler is a tough SOB who doesn't mind a bloody chin. Yes, Martz will let Cutler get pulverized a couple times per game -- but Cutler won't mind because he sacrificed his body every Saturday at Vanderbilt. Literally had the sheet kicked out of him and never complained.
Cutler should enjoy this playbook. Martz will enjoy his once-every-decade-bazooka-arm. Fantasy GMs will enjoy the numbers.
Cutler should enjoy this playbook. Martz will enjoy his once-every-decade-bazooka-arm. Fantasy GMs will enjoy the numbers.
....But he also developed bad habits of throwing off his back foot, both at Vandy, and last year in Chicago. They need to sign Flozell and pair him with Williams. On the above, I hope you are right bro
benson_will_lead_the_way
Footballguy
Lots of QB's throw off of their back foot....its a back practice....but with the arm strength of some of these guys it doesn't matter....I have seen Cutler, Rodgers, Favre do it....consistently.
az_prof
Footballguy
I still like Bennett. He is younger than Aromashodu and Knox although most people don't realize that. He had a very good last year and was better in terms of catch % and YPC and Yards after catch than both those guys. He didn't have as many flashy TDs, so he didn't get as much pimping, but he has better size than Knox and better hands than Aromashodu.
az_prof
Footballguy
Mike Martz is or thinks he is a genius. He doesn't need a "great" Wr like Holmes. He probably thinks he has the guys he needs, and to be honest, I think the four WRs that CHI has are pretty good. They are all pretty young:Bennett, 23Knox, 24Aromashodu, 25Hester, 27Iglesias, 22
switz
Footballguy
No, I think that was all the people here on this forum last year ... Hester is Az-Hakim in Martz's offense... guys need to face the fact that Hester is not a bona fide WR. Last year he had 4 more starts, a QB most argue is light years better than Orton, and he got 92 more receiving yards than the year prior. He's not going to be a 1,200 yard receiver.
Couch Potato
Footballguy
No, after your post I went back and looked for it, and it was in fact a writer 12 days ago, as I thought.Dan Pompei article in the Chicago Tribune.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/footb...,2464674.column
twistd
Footballguy
I agreee 100%. Hester should have been a slot receiver from the start. Either that or running fly patterns and nothing more. He just doesn't have the tools to be a 1200 yard receiver. Smith is fooling himself if he believes that. If the Martz offense works Hester could improve on his numbers from last year, but he will never be a Steve Smith receiver like the Bears envisioned him to be.
Max Power
Footballguy
This group of WRs should be an intersting one. Its tough to make a call on which guy is going to be the money WR. The Bears may be short on draft picks this year, but that didn't stop them from bringing in Marty Gilyard and Blair White for interviews. Im going to guess Knox is the guy to own from this group.
SSOG
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Man, I feel bad for whoever had to do the laundry after the game.
Tanner9919
Footballguy
if the human statue, Marc Bulger, can survive in a Martz offense,so can Cutler..the only thing that worries me is Cutler's Favre-like gunslinger attitude, and how that'll play out on Sundays with the Martz offensive system..
DoubleG
Footballguy
Agreed. In keeping with the gunslinger analogy, let's just say I fear the Bears missing the playoffs due to a game or two in which there were too many "friendly fire" incidents.ETA: Stupid spelling fixes - Lord I can't type on Mondays.if the human statue, Marc Bulger, can survive in a Martz offense,so can Cutler..the only thing that worries me is Cutler's Favre-like gunslinger attitude, and how that'll play out on Sundays with the Martz offensive system..
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Donnybrook
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Orlando Pace is obviously not the player he used to be. Can you really compare the protection afforded by the post SB Rams Oline with the current Bears? Besides it sounds like Martz doesn't want his QB to roll out of the pocket.if the human statue, Marc Bulger, can survive in a Martz offense,so can Cutler..
the only thing that worries me is Cutler's Favre-like gunslinger attitude, and how that'll play out on Sundays with the Martz offensive system..
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