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David Yudkin

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I'm wondering why Mewelde Moore never really had a chance to play a larger role somewhere after 5 years in the league. Here are all the games where he touched the ball at least 15 times . . . (yards from scrimmage and total TD):

116/0

134/3

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105/2

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120/0

109/0

105/1

138/0

76/0

182/0

187/0

168/0

That's 1735 yfs in 14 games = 124 yfs/game and a TD every other game. 257 carries with 63 receptions = 23 touches a game in those games. But the rest of the time, he barely saw the football at all. He averaged only 4 touches a game in 56 other games played.

 
He got a shot on my championship team last year as waiver wire fodder. Worked out nice!

As to your question, it is a good one. He seems to have been the most efficient RB on MIN until ADP came on board, but Moore had been basically brushed aside by Taylor before that.

Are you suggesting he could be a pleasant surprise in Detroit if Smith gets injured?

 
puckalicious said:
He got a shot on my championship team last year as waiver wire fodder. Worked out nice!As to your question, it is a good one. He seems to have been the most efficient RB on MIN until ADP came on board, but Moore had been basically brushed aside by Taylor before that.Are you suggesting he could be a pleasant surprise in Detroit if Smith gets injured?
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You're thinking of Maurice Morris. Moore is still in Pittsburgh.
 
David Yudkin said:
puckalicious said:
He got a shot on my championship team last year as waiver wire fodder. Worked out nice!As to your question, it is a good one. He seems to have been the most efficient RB on MIN until ADP came on board, but Moore had been basically brushed aside by Taylor before that.Are you suggesting he could be a pleasant surprise in Detroit if Smith gets injured?
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You're thinking of Maurice Morris. Moore is still in Pittsburgh.
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:loco: doh! That's what I get for posting at 6am.
 
I think it might have to due with the times he handled the ball less than 15 times and did nothing worthwhile. It is just as likely that when he did handle the ball around 15 times it was against weak defenses, and therefore he was spelling the primary back alot in the 4th quarter (fresh legs against a tired defense can rake up the yards).

Von

 
VonRomig said:
I think it might have to due with the times he handled the ball less than 15 times and did nothing worthwhile. It is just as likely that when he did handle the ball around 15 times it was against weak defenses, and therefore he was spelling the primary back alot in the 4th quarter (fresh legs against a tired defense can rake up the yards).Von
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Here's where the opponents ranked in terms of rushing yards allowed . . .116/0 JAX - 13th134/3 CIN - 21st94/1 NYG 9th105/2 IND 24th97/0 CIN - 21st104/0 NOR - 27th120/0 ATL - 26th109/0 CHI - 11th105/1 GB - 23rd138/0 GB - 23rd76/0 CLE - 30th182/0 HOU - 13th187/0 NO - 30th168/0 TEN - 18thAverages out to 20. The schedule certainly didn't hurt his production . . .
 
I thought when Pacman was being shopped around by Tennessee that Mewelde would have done well to land there. He is a good KR as well as a great 3rd down back and as you mentioned, show good production when given the opportunity.

In that setting, he could have been a Chris Johnson light, until Chris Johnson arrived.

 
MM is a good RB and reciever. He can hurt you both ways. Main problem is he hasn't been able to string together many games with starter workload and stay healthy. He would have 2-3 decent games then be injured and not able to maintain the workload.

Chester Taylor and MM are not that different as players except Taylor has been more durable.

I think the Steelers got a bargain getting him but obviously he was not needed as much in MN with AD and Chester ahead of him.

MM works best as a COP but can be the starter if needed. Just don't expect him to last many games if he gets starter workload.

 
Biabreakable said:
MM is a good RB and reciever. He can hurt you both ways. Main problem is he hasn't been able to string together many games with starter workload and stay healthy. He would have 2-3 decent games then be injured and not able to maintain the workload.Chester Taylor and MM are not that different as players except Taylor has been more durable.I think the Steelers got a bargain getting him but obviously he was not needed as much in MN with AD and Chester ahead of him.MM works best as a COP but can be the starter if needed. Just don't expect him to last many games if he gets starter workload.
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Being soft or hurt a lot would help explain things, but in Moore's case he still played. For the most part, he'd have games or stretched like I pointed out and then would suit up and go back to getting 1 or 2 carries a game or a reception here and there.It would make much more sense if he played 3 weeks in a row and had a big workload and then missed 2 or 3 games, but usually that has not been the case.
 
He is someone that does a lot of things OK , but nothing that wows you.

Teams take players like that for granted.

The only question that I would have is how his pass protection was ..??

 
David Yudkin said:
Biabreakable said:
MM is a good RB and reciever. He can hurt you both ways. Main problem is he hasn't been able to string together many games with starter workload and stay healthy. He would have 2-3 decent games then be injured and not able to maintain the workload.Chester Taylor and MM are not that different as players except Taylor has been more durable.I think the Steelers got a bargain getting him but obviously he was not needed as much in MN with AD and Chester ahead of him.MM works best as a COP but can be the starter if needed. Just don't expect him to last many games if he gets starter workload.
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Being soft or hurt a lot would help explain things, but in Moore's case he still played. For the most part, he'd have games or stretched like I pointed out and then would suit up and go back to getting 1 or 2 carries a game or a reception here and there.It would make much more sense if he played 3 weeks in a row and had a big workload and then missed 2 or 3 games, but usually that has not been the case.
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I am just going off fuzzy memory from when Moore was with the Vikings. There seemed to always be little niggling injuries he would get that might not keep him from playing at all but really limited the amount of work the coaches would give him.ETA- I think he could be a feature RB again at some point and maybe string together a strong set of games if needed. Just because injuries or whatever may have held him back from this before doesen't neccessarily mean it will happen again.
 
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David Yudkin said:
I'm wondering why Mewelde Moore never really had a chance to play a larger role somewhere after 5 years in the league. Here are all the games where he touched the ball at least 15 times . . . (yards from scrimmage and total TD):116/0134/394/1105/297/0104/0120/0109/0105/1138/076/0182/0187/0168/0That's 1735 yfs in 14 games = 124 yfs/game and a TD every other game. 257 carries with 63 receptions = 23 touches a game in those games. But the rest of the time, he barely saw the football at all. He averaged only 4 touches a game in 56 other games played.
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It's a great question and one I've always wondered as well. I remember when he was a rookie he had a very impressive stretch subbing in for a suspended Onterrio Smith & Michael Bennett. Then when those guys came back, he was lost in the shuffle. All I know is that every time I've seen him get a decent amount of touches he's always gotten over 100 yds rushing + receiving. I guess he suffers from the fact that he can do a lot of things well, but he can't do anything great. His role seems limited to being a Kevin Faulk-type.
 
Of RB that have played since Moore entered the league in 2004, here are all the ones that have averaged 4.5 ypc and 9.0 ypr that had at least 400 total carries and 150 total receptions: Tiki Barber (5.01/9.59) and Mewelde Moore (4.64/9.04). (That's over the 2004-2008 seasons in total.) He could very well play soft . . . but his production hasn't been soft.

 
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Mike Tomlin got to work with Moore for a year with the Vikings before the Steelers brought him in. So he knew the player that MM is.

Here are his numbers by game with the Steelers (excluding 1st 3 games where he wasn't really used):

4 09/29 BAL W 23-20 1 0 8 13 1.6 5 0 3 37 12.3 24 0 -- -- MM does a little damage in the passing game.

5 10/05 @ JAC W 26-21 1 1 17 99 5.8 27 0 3 17 5.7 13 0 -- -- Strong game against a decent defense.

6 Bye -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --

7 10/19 @ CIN W 38-10 1 1 20 120 6.0 24 2 5 14 2.8 7 1 1 0 Another strong game. But coming out of the bye and this is the Bengals.

8 10/26 NYG L 14-21 1 1 19 84 4.4 32T 1 2 10 5.0 8 0 -- -- This is 3rd week in a row with MM putting up decent numbers.

9 11/03 @ WAS W 23-6 1 0 4 -2 -0.5 2 0 3 45 15.0 25 0 -- -- What happened? 4 carries lost 2 yards. Maybe just wasn't needed. Helps in the pass game again.

10 11/09 IND L 20-24 1 1 24 57 2.4 9 2 6 48 8.0 16 0 -- -- 2.4 against the Colts D is poor. 30 touches this game. :popcorn:

11 11/16 SD W 11-10 1 0 1 -1 -1.0 -1 0 5 33 6.6 13 0 -- -- MM only used in passing game this week.

12 11/20 CIN W 27-10 1 0 15 56 3.7 15 0 4 41 10.3 22 0 -- -- YPC not nearly as good against the Bengals this time. 19 touches.

13 11/30 @ NE W 33-10 1 0 12 67 5.6 20 0 2 9 4.5 5 0 1 0 MM gets more action in another blow out.

14 12/07 DAL W 20-13 1 0 5 22 4.4 8 0 4 36 9.0 12 0 -- -- This is the last game he does much.

This is actualy pretty good. The Washington and SD are kind of head scratchers but he did do pretty well when called on.

 
Wu-banger said:
He is someone that does a lot of things OK , but nothing that wows you.
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Wu-banger said:
Teams take players like that for granted.
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Or they realize that jack-of-all-trade RBs are great for backups, but not great as starters. MM is like Sammy Morris, Lamont Jordan and a bunch of other RBs who look good in limited duty, can do pretty much everything, but nothing great. And they all either split time, or serve as backups to RBs who excel in a particular area of the game (usually running - hence runningback)
 
Sabertooth said:
Biabreakable said:
Sabertooth said:
Pretty sure I remember a Mike Tice comment about Moore being a soft player.
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I remember this too.Tice wasn't the best coach I have ever seen. His meatheadedness is certainly another factor to consider when looking at how MM was used.
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Tice was 32 33 Childress is 24 24
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I definitly wasn't suggesting Childress is a good coach. I don't think the Vikings have had a good coach since Jerry Burns. Head Coach anyways.Those defensive coordinators have turned out really well though.
 
I liked Moore when he was at Tulane. I thought he might get a shot, but I remember reading similar things as you did: Tice didn't like him. Great example of a player who arguably got lost in the shuffle of coaching changes...

 
When he came into the league Minny had Bennett who was still productive and shared the remaining carries with another promising RB that fizzled out quickly - Ontario Smith.

The 3rd year they brought in Chester Taylor who performed well enough to minimize his opportunities and then AD comes in the following year and he had no chance to see substantial playing time behind those 2.

The only reason he saw action in Pit last year really was due to injury.

All said he has played with some nice RB's and if Pit's #1 and #2 go down he will continue to do well but little chance of him moving ahead of them.

 
The other question I had was why there was seemingly very little interest in Moore when he was on the open market. He went from "roster depth" in MIN to . . . "roster depth" in PIT, without much shot or consideration for even a chance to compete elsewhere.

I still wonder why the Vikings went out and brought in Taylor pre-ADP. Moore at the time had better numbers than Taylor did (obviously not in career totals). I don't recall there every being talk of Moore competing with Taylor or even getting more opportunities in MIN from that point on. Odd . . .

 
sib said:
David Yudkin said:
I'm wondering why Mewelde Moore never really had a chance to play a larger role somewhere after 5 years in the league. Here are all the games where he touched the ball at least 15 times . . . (yards from scrimmage and total TD):116/0134/394/1105/297/0104/0120/0109/0105/1138/076/0182/0187/0168/0That's 1735 yfs in 14 games = 124 yfs/game and a TD every other game. 257 carries with 63 receptions = 23 touches a game in those games. But the rest of the time, he barely saw the football at all. He averaged only 4 touches a game in 56 other games played.
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It's a great question and one I've always wondered as well. I remember when he was a rookie he had a very impressive stretch subbing in for a suspended Onterrio Smith & Michael Bennett. Then when those guys came back, he was lost in the shuffle. All I know is that every time I've seen him get a decent amount of touches he's always gotten over 100 yds rushing + receiving. I guess he suffers from the fact that he can do a lot of things well, but he can't do anything great. His role seems limited to being a Kevin Faulk-type.
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Exactly -- I recall taking him mid-3rd rd rookie in my Dynasty league that year and looking like a genius when he had that stint of production. But I think what he showed this past season is what you're going to get (spot contributor when he has a favorable matchup), and he never would have had the opportunity had Mendy not gotten hurt.
 
All I know is that everytime he gets a shot to start I start him... over almost anybody. He was that productive at the end of the year last year.

 
I said it in a couple of threads about him during the season last year. He, by far IMO, looked like the best back for Pittsburgh offense last year.

Let's face it. Pitt didn't want to be a pound it out team the last two years. Moore is an excellent blocker and reciever coming out of the backfield. He also runs off tackle very good and gets out on the sweep plays very good. I'm not exactly sure (lazy) but I don't think he is much smaller than FWP, is he?

 
One of the NFL's biggest mysteries, IMO. The sad thing is he will likely never get a legit shot at this point. I call it the Kurt Warner syndrome. Why? Because it would've been so easy for Warner to miss his chance. Everything fell perfectly for him. Nobody can tell me Warner was destined to be a star. No way. Warner was lucky (& good).

Mewelde Moore has been unlucky. It's that simple. Things haven't fell right, & it certainly looks like that will continue. The writing is on the wall in Pittsburgh. Maybe if Mendenhall flops (which is a possibility). I believe Moore is the best RB that never was (among current players).

MM could be an elite RB in the right situation. The injury concern may be legit...or it might not be. We don't know. He hasn't been given enough of a shot to prove it one way or the other. I just hope someone is smart enough to make him their lead back before he gets too old. It would be a real shame if we never get to see what he's really capable of.

As far as FF, MM is no longer on my radar. I don't see him ever getting a legit chance, but I hope I'm wrong.

 
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David Yudkin said:
The other question I had was why there was seemingly very little interest in Moore when he was on the open market. He went from "roster depth" in MIN to . . . "roster depth" in PIT, without much shot or consideration for even a chance to compete elsewhere.I still wonder why the Vikings went out and brought in Taylor pre-ADP. Moore at the time had better numbers than Taylor did (obviously not in career totals). I don't recall there every being talk of Moore competing with Taylor or even getting more opportunities in MIN from that point on. Odd . . .
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he signed with Pitt in march after Willie Parker had knee/shoulder injuries with ypc dipping near 4. Not sure many people had them pegged to take Mendenhall in the 1st...so Moore was going there to be more than 'roster depth', but the circumstances changed again. It seems like wherever he goes, the FO doesn't like him
 
As a Mendenhal owner, MM scares me, but I have to believe there is something that will keep keeping him off the field. The only thing I could think of is maybe he isn't good at pass protection, but a Steeler fan posted he is a good blocker....

 
Sebowski said:
As a Mendenhal owner, MM scares me, but I have to believe there is something that will keep keeping him off the field. The only thing I could think of is maybe he isn't good at pass protection, but a Steeler fan posted he is a good blocker....
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I wouldn't call him a good blocker but he is decent. I think he is more dangerous as a reciever than a blocker.As a Mendenhal owner I do think there is a reason to be concerned. FWP owners too.

Reportedly FWP is working harder than ever.

 
Moore is an undersized back that ran a 4.65 at the combine, and put up decent, but not great, college numbers at a 2nd tier program. His flaws may be able to be hidden for short periods when he's forced into a starting role, but he does have them. IMO he's a poor man's Brian Westbrook.

 
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Moore is an undersized back that ran a 4.65 at the combine, and put up decent, but not great, college numbers at a 2nd tier program. His flaws may be able to be hidden for short periods when he's forced into a starting role, but he does have them. IMO he's a poor man's Brian Westbrook.
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Then how do you explain this as a game log for any game with 15+ touches?116/0134/394/1105/297/0104/0120/0109/0105/1138/076/0182/0187/0168/0I would buy what you're saying more if, after putting up nice #'s then he subsequently broke down or failed to do well with a continued heavy load. Thing is, he's never done that. He's NEVER disappointed when given the ball 15+ times. The issue is he just hasn't been given the ball on a regular basis. So these flaws you bring up, while they may be there, have NOT been shown because his coaching staff hasn't given him a shot for whatever reason.
 
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Then how do you explain this as a game log for any game with 15+ touches?
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You can believe that 32 teams have looked at those same numbers and still whiffed on Moore, or you can believe that there are flaws in Moore's game that make him unsuitable as a long-term starter. Given the #s I referenced above (especially that his power is dramatically below the average NFL starter - bottom 5% as an estimate), I'm in the second camp. As to your specific question... if you have a guy that's extremely under powered, you don't ask him to do things that require power - blitz pickup, running between the tackles, short yardage, etc. You can hide the deficiencies. But doing so comes at a cost (especially for a team that wants a smashmouth identity, like the Steelers). ETA: six rushing TDs on more than 400 career carries is a great example of Moore's limitations. And prior to last year he had one TD on 250+ carries - so he was neither breaking the big play, nor usable in short-yardage situations. In other words, he's limited.
 
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gianmarco said:
Then how do you explain this as a game log for any game with 15+ touches?
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You can believe that 32 teams have looked at those same numbers and still whiffed on Moore, or you can believe that there are flaws in Moore's game that make him unsuitable as a long-term starter. Given the #s I referenced above (especially that his power is dramatically below the average NFL starter - bottom 5% as an estimate), I'm in the second camp. As to your specific question... if you have a guy that's extremely under powered, you don't ask him to do things that require power - blitz pickup, running between the tackles, short yardage, etc. You can hide the deficiencies. But doing so comes at a cost (especially for a team that wants a smashmouth identity, like the Steelers).

YMMV
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Well, in the 6 games that MeMo played last year for Pitt where he got 15+ touches, they went 4-2. The 2 losses came to NYG and Indy. Against the NYG, they lost 21-14. MeMo scored one of the 2 TDs during the game against a good defense against the run. Against Indy, they lost 24-20. MeMo scored both TDs in that game (and they had 2 FGs). Of note, only 1 team all year scored more pts than Indy and the NYG vs. the Pitt defense (Tenn scored 31 in late December). So, essentially, those were the 2nd and 3rd worst defensive performances that Pitt had all year so you could easily argue those losses weren't as a result of poor offense.

In other words, I again would buy the argument if MeMo put up #'s but the team lost as a result and thus made a change. But again, that really didn't happen.

There are quite a few players that put up nice #'s in a backup role but once given a chance to shine due to injury or some other reason will often disappoint. That's why we don't make that argument very often. But there are occasionally some RB's who DO continue to do well. Moore seems to be one of those guys but there is SOME reason that he hasn't gotten a shot. Maybe the coaches know what they are doing, maybe they don't. For example, many used to say the same thing about Barber in his first couple of years wondering why he didn't get a bigger load when he clearly outperformed J. Jones. Well, when he finally did his performance went down. That very well may be the case with Moore. However, there's nothing that we've seen from his GAME performances that would indicate that yet. So, it's still speculation. Again, I'm not arguing that he would definitely thrive if given a starting job. What I'm saying is that his onfield performance thus far in his career should at least allow him the opportunity to do so and that just hasn't happened. We'll probably never know but I think it's a shame because he's looked quite good to me when he's been on the field.

 
wdcrob said:
ETA: six rushing TDs on more than 400 career carries is a great example of Moore's limitations. And prior to last year he had one TD on 250+ carries - so he was neither breaking the big play, nor usable in short-yardage situations. In other words, he's limited.
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First of all, that's VERY misleading. In 2004, 2006, and 2007 he had limited carries (65, 24, and 20). In those situations, he was obviously considered the COP back and simply not put in high % scoring situations. Looking at just last year (which is most relevant), he scored 5 rushing TDs on 140 carries. That's a VERY respectable scoring rate. Secondly, M. Moore doesn't have to be an every down back. If they don't think he can handle short-yardage, power situations, then do what the rest of the NFL does. Employ a 2 RB system that has a runner to compliment Moore. It doesn't mean he needs to be limited to 5-10 touches total for a game. They could use him as a 15 touch RB and simply have a larger, more powerful RB to use at the goalline or for 3rd and short. In other words, just like they did with R. Bush or Chris Johnson with LenDale. You keep claiming all these deficiencies he has, yet how does a player with those deficiences do THAT well against NFL caliber defenses unless he has SOME skills? And not just on 4-5 touches in game but a full workload that helped the team pick up a win?
 
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Mewelde Moore has been given the short end of the stick for a LONG time. Guy can run with the best of them and is clearly a very good receiver and blocker. He always produces when he's given the ball enough, and that's much more than you can say for a lot of guys in the league.

 
Some good questions here that we don't have answers to. Maybe the coaches know something we don't, because Moore has never had more than a 3 or 4 game stretch of 15+ touches. He also has never been the feature RB on a team. Maybe he's just solid yet unspectacular so other RBs will always get a shot against him when the coaching staff feels they might be a better option.

Until he's on a team with no competition, he'll remain an eternal FF spot starter and not really worth owning.

 
Biabreakable said:
David Yudkin said:
Biabreakable said:
MM is a good RB and reciever. He can hurt you both ways. Main problem is he hasn't been able to string together many games with starter workload and stay healthy. He would have 2-3 decent games then be injured and not able to maintain the workload.Chester Taylor and MM are not that different as players except Taylor has been more durable.I think the Steelers got a bargain getting him but obviously he was not needed as much in MN with AD and Chester ahead of him.MM works best as a COP but can be the starter if needed. Just don't expect him to last many games if he gets starter workload.
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Being soft or hurt a lot would help explain things, but in Moore's case he still played. For the most part, he'd have games or stretched like I pointed out and then would suit up and go back to getting 1 or 2 carries a game or a reception here and there.It would make much more sense if he played 3 weeks in a row and had a big workload and then missed 2 or 3 games, but usually that has not been the case.
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I am just going off fuzzy memory from when Moore was with the Vikings. There seemed to always be little niggling injuries he would get that might not keep him from playing at all but really limited the amount of work the coaches would give him.ETA- I think he could be a feature RB again at some point and maybe string together a strong set of games if needed. Just because injuries or whatever may have held him back from this before doesen't neccessarily mean it will happen again.
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This, at least for his time in Minny. He used to always PO the coaching staff with his constant little injuries and inability to stay healthy. Worst of all, they'd cause him to miss practice time or not be able to do everything at practice, and the coaches didn't take kindly to that at all (I heard "since he can't stay healthy, we just can't count on him" more than once). He could just never seem to get out of the doghouse because of the little injuries that players are expected to play through (and caused him to be labeled "soft" more than once). Add that to the fact we had pretty decent RB's while he was here, and you get a guy who would get very inconsistent playing time.Sad, too, because he'd always do great when he did get into the game, and showed a real ability to make people miss. To be fair, though, usually when he was in it was for COP, 3rd downs where he'd take the screen or flare pass, or passing situations where they weren't expected to run and MM would rip off the 6-15 yard gain and look good doing it against a D that was expecting pass. I like the guy and think he's got real talent, but it's not all "poor MM". He definitely played a part in this. Maybe last year was a wake-up call and he'll MAKE someone play him with his performance on the field - if not the Steelers, perhaps someone else.
 
joker said:
Biabreakable said:
David Yudkin said:
Biabreakable said:
MM is a good RB and reciever. He can hurt you both ways. Main problem is he hasn't been able to string together many games with starter workload and stay healthy. He would have 2-3 decent games then be injured and not able to maintain the workload.Chester Taylor and MM are not that different as players except Taylor has been more durable.I think the Steelers got a bargain getting him but obviously he was not needed as much in MN with AD and Chester ahead of him.MM works best as a COP but can be the starter if needed. Just don't expect him to last many games if he gets starter workload.
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Being soft or hurt a lot would help explain things, but in Moore's case he still played. For the most part, he'd have games or stretched like I pointed out and then would suit up and go back to getting 1 or 2 carries a game or a reception here and there.It would make much more sense if he played 3 weeks in a row and had a big workload and then missed 2 or 3 games, but usually that has not been the case.
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I am just going off fuzzy memory from when Moore was with the Vikings. There seemed to always be little niggling injuries he would get that might not keep him from playing at all but really limited the amount of work the coaches would give him.ETA- I think he could be a feature RB again at some point and maybe string together a strong set of games if needed. Just because injuries or whatever may have held him back from this before doesen't neccessarily mean it will happen again.
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This, at least for his time in Minny. He used to always PO the coaching staff with his constant little injuries and inability to stay healthy. Worst of all, they'd cause him to miss practice time or not be able to do everything at practice, and the coaches didn't take kindly to that at all (I heard "since he can't stay healthy, we just can't count on him" more than once). He could just never seem to get out of the doghouse because of the little injuries that players are expected to play through (and caused him to be labeled "soft" more than once). Add that to the fact we had pretty decent RB's while he was here, and you get a guy who would get very inconsistent playing time.Sad, too, because he'd always do great when he did get into the game, and showed a real ability to make people miss. To be fair, though, usually when he was in it was for COP, 3rd downs where he'd take the screen or flare pass, or passing situations where they weren't expected to run and MM would rip off the 6-15 yard gain and look good doing it against a D that was expecting pass. I like the guy and think he's got real talent, but it's not all "poor MM". He definitely played a part in this. Maybe last year was a wake-up call and he'll MAKE someone play him with his performance on the field - if not the Steelers, perhaps someone else.
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This may all be valid and salient points, but I'm not sure a guy getting the ball 15-20 times a game could deliver that many touches solely on 3rd downs or as a COP back. It appears to me, at least, that when he did see the ball a lot he was in the game most of the time and not just thrown in onesy twosy.
 
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You keep claiming all these deficiencies he has
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I said he's limited, not a bum. His skill in open space is pretty good IMO.But I look at an undersized guy who runs a 4.65 and has one TD in his first 250 carries as a pro and think I understand why coaches consistently peg him as a role player.You look at those same numbers and see an ongoing mystery. :goodposting: Different strokes I guess.
 
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I felt when Chilly went to the Vikings that Moore could end up as another Westbrook, but that never happened. I'm not sure why either.

 
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