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There are a couple of picks I didn't care for but overall one of the better mocks I've seen.

1) If Russell falls to #9 Miami would be extremely happy

2) I can't see Ginn Jr. going that early

3) Love Brohm to Carolina (I really think that will happen.)

4) Kenny Irons in the 1st round?

5) Jarrett will NOT last that long. If he does congradulations KC

6) I would have put in Troy Smith to Balt personally.

Team Player Position College

1) Oakland Raiders Brady Quinn quarterback Notre dame

Analysis: The Raiders need to build from the ground up and there is no better position to start with than quarterback. Quinn has all of the tools needed to lead the offense for the next decade. His leadership, arm strength and record as a college quarterback will be too hard to pass up as other options, including trading the pick, are considered.

2) DETROIT LIONS Joe Thomas offensive tackle Wisconsin

Analysis: The Lions have many holes to fill as well and one way to do it is to get the best "big man" in the draft. This year it is Joe Thomas from Wisconsin. The Lions liked what they saw out of Jon Kitna during their season finale enough to wait on a quarterback for another year. With Thomas anchoring the line they will get more protection for Kitna and have the ability to open holes for Kevin Jones.

3) Cleveland Browns Gaines Adams Defensive End Clemson

Analysis: The Browns defense desperately needs an interior lineman that's a game changer. Adams is a tremendous athlete with ideal speed, wingspan and strength to be a great NFL defensive end. The Browns will have to do many other things in rounds 2-7 to improve their team but a good start would be for them to take Adams with the #3 overall pick.

4) Tampa Bay Buccaneers Calvin Johnson wide receiver Georgia tech

Analysis: Johnson has been picked by many to be the #1 overall choice in this years draft. He has the freakish size, strength and leaping ability that NFL teams drool over. The Buccaneers offense is desperate for playmakers and that's just what he is. He put together a great career at Georgia Tech and topped it off with a fantastic finish at the Gator Bowl. If Johnson doesn't go in the top 3 picks expect the Buccaneers to take him here.

5) Arizona Cardinals Alan Branch Defensive Tackle Michigan

Analysis: Arizona has addressed many of their offensive needs over the past few drafts but this year they will focus on the defensive side of the ball by taking big Alan Branch from Michigan. Branch has the size and athletic ability to be a dominant tackle and he should make an immediate impact on the Arizona defense. The Cardinals could also go for a corner here but in the end they will chose the best football player left on the board, which is Branch.

6) Washington Redskins Quentin Moses defensive end Georgia

Analysis: The Redskins will continue to look to bolster their defensive line with the addition of Quentin Moses. Many put Moses as the top defensive prospect on the board before the start of the 2006 season. He has the size and capability to be a top defensive end if he plays up to his ability level. The Redskins feel fairly confident in what they accomplished on the offensive side of the ball late in 2006 so they will go after the top defensive player left with the #6 overall pick.

7) Minnesota Vikings ted ginn jr. wide receiver ohio state

Analysis: Many believe that the Vikings will go after a QB with the 7th overall pick but after they spent a 2nd round draft pick on Tavarius Jackson in 2006 I find it hard to believe. With a big offensive line in place and a solid running back in Chester Tayler the Vikings will pick up Ted Ginn Jr and spread the field. Ginn is an awesome athlete who will make an instant impact on any NFL team.

8) Houston Texans Adrian Peterson Running Back Oklahoma

Analysis: The Texans were focused on defense during the 2006 draft by picking up Mario Williams and defensive rookie of the year DeMeco Ryans. This year they will be ecstatic to find Adrian Peterson still available to bolster their offense. The addition of a top running back, such as Peterson, will give instant credibility to an otherwise one dimensional offense (Andre Johnson). Texan fans, if Peterson is available take him and run!

9) Miami Dolphins jamarcus russell quarterback lsu

Analysis: After the Dolphins traded for Daunte Culpepper in the off season many considered their quarterback position to be filled for at least the next 3-4 years. With Culpepper's future in doubt the Dolphins will select the talented Jamarcus Russell to be their signal caller. Russell has great size, arm strength and touch on his passes to be an instant playmaker for the Dolphins offense.

10) Atlanta Falcons laron landry safety lsu

Analysis: The Falcons are looking for a safety who isn't afraid to hit someone and they will find him in Laron Landry. This guy is an athlete who makes plays all over the football field. The Falcons secondary has been picked on all year (238.1 passing yards allowed per game) so this is a definite area of need. They are desperate for what he can bring to the table so expect him to go here at #10.

11) San Francisco 49ers Patrick Willis Inside Linebacker Mississippi

Analysis: The 49ers missed out on a top linebacker last year when AJ Hawk went the Packers. This year they will address their linebacking core by adding Patrick Willis from Mississippi. Willis is a big, athletic linebacker who can play either inside or outside depending on where they will need him. The 2006 Vince Lombardi/Rotary Award winner (top linebacker in the nation) will be a nice fit for the 49ers defense.

12) Buffalo Bills LEON HALL CORNERBACK MICHIGAN

Analysis: Many expect Hall to go higher than this but I can see him falling down to the Bills at #12. Hall has great moves and playmaking ability that will immediately help a Buffalo defense that struggles against the pass. With the Bills offensive offense showing improvement over the last quarter of the season expect them to focus on helping their defense by selecting Leon Hall at #12.

13) St. Louis Rams glenn dorsey defensive tackle lsu

Analysis: It seems as though the Rams consistently make efforts to upgrade their defense without much to show for it. With a top notch offense in place, they will continue to bring in defensive talent when they select big Glenn Dorsey out of LSU. DT Ryan Pickett left in the off season for Green Bay and no one has really stepped up to take his spot. Dorsey should make an impact and be a quality starter for the Rams defensive front.

14) Carolina Panthers brian brohm quarterback Louisville

Analysis: The Panthers struggled through 2006 with problems at the quarterback position. Expect the Panthers to make a move by selecting Louisville standout Brian Brohm with the 14th overall pick. Brohm is a prototypical quarterback who has the skills to succeed at the next level. There are other players still on the board that would make an immediate impact but expect Brohm to get the call here.

15) Pittsburgh Steelers Darrelle Revis Cornerback Pittsburgh

Analysis: After a thrilling Super Bowl run, the Steelers struggled in 2006. With a good off season and draft don't expect the Steelers to be down for long. On the defensive side of the ball they will shore up their backfield by selecting Darrelle Revis out of Pittsburgh. Revis has all of the tools to be a successful NFL cornerback and the Steelers will be glad to find him here at #15.

16) Green Bay Packers Marshawn Lynch Running Back California

Analysis: The Packers made a run at the end of the year and almost made it to the playoffs. Whether Favre comes back or not the Packers will need offensive playmakers to get them to the next level. Lynch will help an aging backfield and give a kick start to a offense with potential. Lynch may go higher than this but if he drops down to #16 expect the Packers to thank their lucky stars and nab him.

17) Jacksonville Jaguars Paul Posluszny Outside Linebacker Penn State

Analysis: The Jaguars coach, Jack Del Rio was a tough linebacker for the Cowboys during the 80's. He will select a guy made in the same mold as himself in Paul Posluszny out of Penn State. Posluszny would be rated much higher but a 2005 knee injury and a slow start to the 2006 season set him back. With the injury behind him expect the Jaguars to select him at #17 and see immediate results.

18) Cincinnati Bengals Reggie Nelson safety florida

Analysis: The Bengals have been always looking for a defensive leader in their secondary and expect them to find one in Reggie Nelson out of Florida. Nelson will be leaned on to help a terrible pass defense that gave up an NFL worst 243.6 passing yards per game. There are still many pieces of the puzzle in place for the Bengals to make a deep playoff run in 2007. The addition of Nelson at #18 will be a step in the right direction.

19) Tennessee Titans justin blalock offensive Guard texas

Analysis: The Titans have found their star quarterback and now they will try to protect him by adding Levi Brown out of Penn State. This is also a good pick in the sense that Young and Blalock have played together before with the Longhorns. The Titans have shown improvement throughout the 2006 campaign and Coach Fischer will continue the youth movement with a solid draft pick for their offensive line.

20) NY Giants Kenny Irons running back auburn

Analysis: With Tiki Barber guaranteeing that he will be retiring at the end of the 2006-2007 season the Giants would be wise to pick up either Lynch or Irons if they are available. Irons is a typical hard running Auburn back that will fit well in the Giant offense. Manning will need all of the pressure taken off of him that he can get...thus the Giants will take Irons with the 20th pick.

21) Denver Broncos FRED BENNETT CORNERBACK south Carolina

Analysis: The Broncos will look to add a top cornerback going into the draft and they will be pleased to still see Fred Bennett on the board at #21. Bennett has nice size and speed and was tested week in and week out against the SEC's best wide receivers. In order for the Broncos to make a playoff run in 2007 they will need to shore up their secondary and adding Bennett is a good start.

22) New England (from SEA) quinn pitcock defensive tackle ohio state

Analysis: New England philosophy has been to year in and year out add dominant big men to build their team around. This year will be no different as they add big Quinn Pitcock out of Ohio State. Pitcock is strong and quick for his size and was almost always double teamed by Ohio States opponents. He is a blue collar guy who will make a nice addition to the Patriots defense and make an instant impact.

23) Dallas Cowboys lamar Woodley outside linebacker Michigan

Analysis: The Cowboys defense has been in disarray late in the season and thus, coach Parcells will want to add a few guys to stop the bleeding. Woodley comes from a star studded defense at Michigan where he put up fantastic stats in 2006. His aggressiveness showed throughout his career as he collected the 2nd most tackles for a loss in school history. The Cowboys will need his defensive leadership to make the next step.

24) Kansas City Chiefs Dwayne Jarrett wide receiver usc

Analysis: The Chiefs have a good line, a Hall of Fame tight end and a great running back. What's always been missing is a top threat at the wide receiver position. Jarrett has the size and ability to be the #1 guy in KC for many years to come. Picking here and coming up with the 3rd best receiver in the draft will be just fine with the Chiefs.

25) New Orleans Saints LEVI BROWN offensive tackle penn state

Analysis: Yes, New Orleans needs help on defense but they will first address their offensive line. The Saints know they have playmakers on the offensive side of the ball but none of them succeed without a solid offensive line. Selecting Brown at #25 would be a steal and from here they will focus on improving their defense through free agency and rounds 2-7.

26) NY Jets AMOBI OKOYE Defensive tackle LOUISVILLE

Analysis: It will be interesting to see where Okoye's draft status goes from here. He was fairly dominant at Louisville and many draft scouts put a lot of stock in the fact that he is young and has room to improve. With the Jets offense drastically improving in 2006 expect them to take a gamble on Okoye. If he continues to improve he could be the steal of this years draft.

27) Philadelphia Eagles DWAYNE BOWE WIDE RECEIVER LSU

Analysis: The Eagles are another team that could use a standout playmaker at wide receiver. Bowe is a natural talent who's stock has increased since LSU's late season run. The Eagles could also go after a cornerback at this spot but Bowe will be too tempting to pass up at #27.

28) New England Patriots JEFF SAMARDZIJA WIDE RECEIVER NOTRE DAME

Analysis: The Notre Dame standout will travel east to join his coaches old team, the Patriots. With the loss of Branch during the 2006 season and the rest of the receivers aging I can't see how the Patriots won't go after a receiver with one of their 1st round picks. Belicheck knows that Samardzija has been through a program much like his own and that mixed with the desperation for a playmaker at the wide receiver position will be enough for the Pats to select him here.

29) Indianapolis Colts MARCUS THOMAS defensive tackle FLORIDA

Analysis: The secret has been out for a while on how to beat the Colts. Teams have been running through and around their defense for a better part of the year and ultimately it will cause their demise. Enter Marcus Thomas who has been the anchor for the Florida line. For the Colts to make a run at the title in 2007 they will have to add guys who plug the holes and tackle. A good start would be for them to draft Thomas

30) Chicago Bears ZACH MILLER TIGHT END ARIZONA STATE

Analysis: Miller is an addition that the Bears could use to help kick start their offense. Many are calling for a new quarterback, which may happen, but history shows that even mediocre quarterbacks can succeed if they have talent around them. Much of who the Bears take will depend on what occurs during this years playoff run but I'm going to go with Miller who can provide Grossman (or whoever is the QB) a nice target.

31) Baltimore Ravens Michael bush Running Back Louisville

Analysis: I still like Michael Bush as the choice for the Ravens here. They need to continue to run the ball effectively while taking some of the load off of Jamal Lewis. Bush is a shifty back with great moves that would be a nice change of pace late in the game. There are other areas the Ravens could go with this pick but none seem to make more sense than the selection of Bush.

32) San Diego Chargers STEVE SMITH WIDE RECEIVER USC

Analysis: The Chargers seem to be the most complete team in the NFL (as of now 1/6/07) but the one thing they have been lacking is a top receiver. They will address this need and help out young Philip Rivers by taking USC standout Steve Smith. Smith has great hands and will feel comfortable staying in Southern California. If Smith can be a threat and make the Charger offense even better...look out.

 
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I think this mock is way off on many picks.

Cleveland won't pass on Peterson

Dolphins won't take a qb

Samardzja won't go 1st round. I know I spelled his name wrong but he's not worth looking up.

Cards will take an ol.

 
14) Carolina Panthers brian brohm quarterback LouisvilleAnalysis: The Panthers struggled through 2006 with problems at the quarterback position. Expect the Panthers to make a move by selecting Louisville standout Brian Brohm with the 14th overall pick. Brohm is a prototypical quarterback who has the skills to succeed at the next level. There are other players still on the board that would make an immediate impact but expect Brohm to get the call here.
No way. Panthers are a good team with some holes to fill, they don't need to spend a first round pick for a 3rd string QB in 2007. They need OL help desperately, same as in the secondary, and LB depth, too. Also, Eric Shelton and Lefors were both from Louisville and both disappointed, not as big a factor as team need, but still a negative.
 
Please people, understand that Carolina is not taking a QB in the first. They are not in that mode. They will probably trade up for a lineman. For all of these people doing "mock" drafts stop inserting a QB in their spot

 
I think this mock is way off on many picks.Cleveland won't pass on PetersonDolphins won't take a qbSamardzja won't go 1st round. I know I spelled his name wrong but he's not worth looking up.Cards will take an ol.
1.Why not? The chances that either Michael Bush or Kenny Irons are available at 2.3 are quite high so I don't see why they wouldn't take Gaines Adams.2. Culpepper has been awful in his last 2 seasons and Harrington has always been awful. I don't see why they wouldn't go QB3. Probably not but hey, there's always a chance. The Pats need a WR and Weis will probably try to hype Samardzija to Bellichick and Co.4. Probably, but they will likely do so in the 2nd round and/or later if Joe Thomas isn't available at 1.5.
 
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Please people, understand that Carolina is not taking a QB in the first. They are not in that mode. They will probably trade up for a lineman. For all of these people doing "mock" drafts stop inserting a QB in their spot
Denver won't go CB in the first round, just doesn't make sense.
 
14) Carolina Panthers brian brohm quarterback LouisvilleAnalysis: The Panthers struggled through 2006 with problems at the quarterback position. Expect the Panthers to make a move by selecting Louisville standout Brian Brohm with the 14th overall pick. Brohm is a prototypical quarterback who has the skills to succeed at the next level. There are other players still on the board that would make an immediate impact but expect Brohm to get the call here.
No way. Panthers are a good team with some holes to fill, they don't need to spend a first round pick for a 3rd string QB in 2007. They need OL help desperately, same as in the secondary, and LB depth, too. Also, Eric Shelton and Lefors were both from Louisville and both disappointed, not as big a factor as team need, but still a negative.
Couldn't you have said the same thing about Denver last year? The similarities between last year's top 3 QBs and this year's is remarkable right down to a playoff calibre team being the ones to draft Cutler/Brohm.
 
No Lawrence Timmons? No Michael Griffin?

--Deon Grant just turned down a contract offer from the Jaguars and as he is a UFA, i highly doubt we pass on Reggie Nelson, a hometown product, who would be huge for ticket sales and as a defensive force.

Oh and the Chargers are probably taking a hard look at Meachem and or Johnnie Lee Higgins before Steve Smith.

 
I think this mock is way off on many picks.

Cleveland won't pass on Peterson

Dolphins won't take a qb

Samardzja won't go 1st round. I know I spelled his name wrong but he's not worth looking up.

Cards will take an ol.
I disagree with some of these. Browns have bigger issues than RB spot right now and they need to fill the trenches with skilled people.Cards will be all over Thomas if he is there. If he is not, they may go interior line and take Branch.

 
Please people, understand that Carolina is not taking a QB in the first. They are not in that mode. They will probably trade up for a lineman. For all of these people doing "mock" drafts stop inserting a QB in their spot
Denver won't go CB in the first round, just doesn't make sense.
To be honest, I can see the Broncos grabbing Kenny Irons.Irons cutting ability makes him a great back for this system and he adds the home run speed Mike Bell lacks.Look for Tatum Bell to be gone by season's start.
 
Would Gaines Adams work as a 3-4 DE?

The Cowgurls need offensive linemen not more Lbers.

 
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I don't see the Eagles taking a WR in the first round. They tend to take defensive players with their early picks and like to take offensive players a little later on, like in the 3rd or so. I see them looking at the linebacker or safety position. Even though Dawkins is playing very well right now, he's not getting any younger and he could use some help. He'd be a great veteran to teach a rookie a thing or too.

 
Things that seem out of place in bold

3) Cleveland Browns Gaines Adams Defensive End Clemson

Analysis: The Browns defense desperately needs an interior lineman that's a game changer. Adams is a tremendous athlete with ideal speed, wingspan and strength to be a great NFL defensive end. The Browns will have to do many other things in rounds 2-7 to improve their team but a good start would be for them to take Adams with the #3 overall pick.



Gaines will be an excellent 4-3 DE in the NFL. How is a guy his size supposed to be a 4-3 DE? Is this mock predicting Crennell will switch alignments? Since it doesnt say so, Im going to guess its just bad writing.

6) Washington Redskins Quentin Moses defensive end Georgia

Analysis: The Redskins will continue to look to bolster their defensive line with the addition of Quentin Moses. Many put Moses as the top defensive prospect on the board before the start of the 2006 season. He has the size and capability to be a top defensive end if he plays up to his ability level. The Redskins feel fairly confident in what they accomplished on the offensive side of the ball late in 2006 so they will go after the top defensive player left with the #6 overall pick.

Yes, as the author notes, Moses was the top DE in the nation BEFORE the 2006 season, hes not looked at as a 1st round pick now. Hes had a terribly disappointing Sr. Season, and I cant imagine anyone reasonably projecting him as a high 1st round pick.

9) Miami Dolphins jamarcus russell quarterback lsu

Analysis: After the Dolphins traded for Daunte Culpepper in the off season many considered their quarterback position to be filled for at least the next 3-4 years. With Culpepper's future in doubt the Dolphins will select the talented Jamarcus Russell to be their signal caller. Russell has great size, arm strength and touch on his passes to be an instant playmaker for the Dolphins offense.

Russell is not coming out to be the #9 pick. Miami has a ton of money they cant easily get out of already tied up in the QB position. I cant see any logic here.

14) Carolina Panthers brian brohm quarterback Louisville

Analysis: The Panthers struggled through 2006 with problems at the quarterback position. Expect the Panthers to make a move by selecting Louisville standout Brian Brohm with the 14th overall pick. Brohm is a prototypical quarterback who has the skills to succeed at the next level. There are other players still on the board that would make an immediate impact but expect Brohm to get the call here.



If Brohm can be the 14th pick overall after a season where he missed 5 games, why wouldnt he stay and be a favorite to be a top 3 pick next year?

17) Jacksonville Jaguars Paul Posluszny Outside Linebacker Penn State

Analysis: The Jaguars coach, Jack Del Rio was a tough linebacker for the Cowboys during the 80's. He will select a guy made in the same mold as himself in Paul Posluszny out of Penn State. Posluszny would be rated much higher but a 2005 knee injury and a slow start to the 2006 season set him back. With the injury behind him expect the Jaguars to select him at #17 and see immediate results.

Where does the author see Posluszny playing in JAX? LB is not a position of any need, and there are better talents at more needed positions left on the board.

19) Tennessee Titans justin blalock offensive Guard texas

Analysis: The Titans have found their star quarterback and now they will try to protect him by adding Levi Brown out of Penn State. This is also a good pick in the sense that Young and Blalock have played together before with the Longhorns. The Titans have shown improvement throughout the 2006 campaign and Coach Fischer will continue the youth movement with a solid draft pick for their offensive line.



Read the player hes projecting to be picked. Now read the first sentence.

Worst part? Neither player makes sense. David Stewart is entrenched at RT, and OG is maybe 6th? on the list of positions that need to be addressed by the Titans...nevermind that a giant like Blaylock is not the type of player Mike Munchak likes along the OL.

20) NY Giants Kenny Irons running back auburn

Analysis: With Tiki Barber guaranteeing that he will be retiring at the end of the 2006-2007 season the Giants would be wise to pick up either Lynch or Irons if they are available. Irons is a typical hard running Auburn back that will fit well in the Giant offense. Manning will need all of the pressure taken off of him that he can get...thus the Giants will take Irons with the 20th pick.

Irons would have to have some amazing workouts to go here

21) Denver Broncos FRED BENNETT CORNERBACK south Carolina

Analysis: The Broncos will look to add a top cornerback going into the draft and they will be pleased to still see Fred Bennett on the board at #21. Bennett has nice size and speed and was tested week in and week out against the SEC's best wide receivers. In order for the Broncos to make a playoff run in 2007 they will need to shore up their secondary and adding Bennett is a good start.

Denver needs secondary help, but not nearly as much at CB as they do at saftey

24) Kansas City Chiefs Dwayne Jarrett wide receiver usc

Analysis: The Chiefs have a good line, a Hall of Fame tight end and a great running back. What's always been missing is a top threat at the wide receiver position. Jarrett has the size and ability to be the #1 guy in KC for many years to come. Picking here and coming up with the 3rd best receiver in the draft will be just fine with the Chiefs.

24th?

25) New Orleans Saints LEVI BROWN offensive tackle penn state

Analysis: Yes, New Orleans needs help on defense but they will first address their offensive line. The Saints know they have playmakers on the offensive side of the ball but none of them succeed without a solid offensive line. Selecting Brown at #25 would be a steal and from here they will focus on improving their defense through free agency and rounds 2-7.

Well, assuming the Titans didnt take him in this mock, Im not sure what problem the author has with Jon Stinchomb, who had a solid year manning the RT spot in NO last year, and is still plenty young.

27) Philadelphia Eagles DWAYNE BOWE WIDE RECEIVER LSU

Analysis: The Eagles are another team that could use a standout playmaker at wide receiver. Bowe is a natural talent who's stock has increased since LSU's late season run. The Eagles could also go after a cornerback at this spot but Bowe will be too tempting to pass up at #27.

This one has been addressed...ugh
 
in that mock cant see jarrett getting past atl
We were discussing this at our Chiefs watch party today in the mid 3rd quarter when the Colts had more 1st downs than we had yards! :cry: I would love to get Jarrett in KC, but I would have to think the better move would be OL or QB in the 1st and a WR like Meachem or somebody else that falls in the 2nd and then fill in the rest of the needs after that, because if we can't block for LJ or keep the defenses honest at QB, there will be no ground game and a stud RB will be sitting on the bench looking pissed, like LJ did today.Now, if Jarrett were there at 24 I'd love to have him, I'm just saying it probably isn't the smartest move the franchise could make, but then again we have King Carl calling the shots, so we'll probably go DT, DE and CB with our first 3 picks and trust Brody Croyle as our QB of the future to run the show behind a bunch of NFL Europe players.I'm not sure where Kolb will go in the draft, but if we went OL and WR in the 1st and 2nd, a guy like Kolb at QB in the 3rd or wherever he grades out would be a nice start. I mentioned Meachem as a possible 2nd round WR, but more realistically, a guy like J. Higgins from UTEP would fill the need and could be had later in the draft.
 
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I don't see the Eagles taking a WR in the first round. They tend to take defensive players with their early picks and like to take offensive players a little later on, like in the 3rd or so. I see them looking at the linebacker or safety position. Even though Dawkins is playing very well right now, he's not getting any younger and he could use some help. He'd be a great veteran to teach a rookie a thing or too.
since reid has been in philly, he's taken 1 WR in the first round - freddie '4th-and-26' mitchell - and two in the second round - todd pinkston and reggie brown. will they pick a WR in the first round? doubtful, but it's among the areas they need so they will address it. they may also like what they see out of hank baskett.
 
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12) Buffalo Bills LEON HALL CORNERBACK MICHIGANAnalysis: Many expect Hall to go higher than this but I can see him falling down to the Bills at #12. Hall has great moves and playmaking ability that will immediately help a Buffalo defense that struggles against the pass. With the Bills offensive offense showing improvement over the last quarter of the season expect them to focus on helping their defense by selecting Leon Hall at #12.
I actually like Hall, but not this high, and Buffalo simply must address the OL this year. Is this pick more about Blalock not being worth this high of a pick? Never stopped Buffalo before.
 
Kip Dynamite said:
I think this mock is way off on many picks.Cleveland won't pass on Peterson
Good posting. That team is in desperate need of playmakers. They might even go nuts and take Russell.
 
Assani Fisher said:
H.K. said:
Blackjacks said:
14) Carolina Panthers brian brohm quarterback Louisville

Analysis: The Panthers struggled through 2006 with problems at the quarterback position. Expect the Panthers to make a move by selecting Louisville standout Brian Brohm with the 14th overall pick. Brohm is a prototypical quarterback who has the skills to succeed at the next level. There are other players still on the board that would make an immediate impact but expect Brohm to get the call here.
No way. Panthers are a good team with some holes to fill, they don't need to spend a first round pick for a 3rd string QB in 2007. They need OL help desperately, same as in the secondary, and LB depth, too. Also, Eric Shelton and Lefors were both from Louisville and both disappointed, not as big a factor as team need, but still a negative.
Couldn't you have said the same thing about Denver last year? The similarities between last year's top 3 QBs and this year's is remarkable right down to a playoff calibre team being the ones to draft Cutler/Brohm.
Plummer and Delhomme were/are in different situations. Both became starters in 2003 for their respective teams, so its very easy to compare them:Post Season Performance

Plummer 1 Win 3 Losses (5 TD's & 6 Int's) - Plummer threw at least one Int in every playoff game he played as a Bronco. Losses were the Colts, who blew them out twice and they lost to Pitt, at home, to lose in the conf. championship when Plummer was again not at his best.

Delhomme 5 Wins 2 Losses (11 TD's & 5 Int's) - This includes a 300+ 3 TD no Int SB,and another 300+ 3 TD effort vs. the Bears on the road to get the team into the Conf. Final, which they lost because they had zero offensive weapons (SSmith hurt, S.Davis & Foster out).

Delhomme is clearly the guy, he's a leader and the staff likes him. The team's struggles this season were due in most part to injury (Wharton & Morgan being the most impactful). Not to mention the stupid fake punt return call by Fox vs. Minn is really what ultimately kept them out of the playoffs.

IMHO the biggest problem is defense. Mike Minter has gotten old and lost a step, Dan Morgan can't stay healthy (compounded by the choice to sign him and let Witherspoon free), and it looks like Rucker will be gone now, too.

I also heard some scuttlebutt regarding their interest in Reggie Nelson, so we'll see how he does vs. OSU.

 
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Assani Fisher said:
H.K. said:
Blackjacks said:
14) Carolina Panthers brian brohm quarterback Louisville

Analysis: The Panthers struggled through 2006 with problems at the quarterback position. Expect the Panthers to make a move by selecting Louisville standout Brian Brohm with the 14th overall pick. Brohm is a prototypical quarterback who has the skills to succeed at the next level. There are other players still on the board that would make an immediate impact but expect Brohm to get the call here.
No way. Panthers are a good team with some holes to fill, they don't need to spend a first round pick for a 3rd string QB in 2007. They need OL help desperately, same as in the secondary, and LB depth, too. Also, Eric Shelton and Lefors were both from Louisville and both disappointed, not as big a factor as team need, but still a negative.
Couldn't you have said the same thing about Denver last year? The similarities between last year's top 3 QBs and this year's is remarkable right down to a playoff calibre team being the ones to draft Cutler/Brohm.
Plummer and Delhomme were/are in different situations. Both became starters in 2003 for their respective teams, so its very easy to compare them:Post Season Performance

Plummer 1 Win 3 Losses (5 TD's & 6 Int's) - Plummer threw at least one Int in every playoff game he played as a Bronco. Losses were the Colts, who blew them out twice and they lost to Pitt, at home, to lose in the conf. championship when Plummer was again not at his best.

Delhomme 5 Wins 2 Losses (11 TD's & 5 Int's) - This includes a 300+ 3 TD no Int SB,and another 300+ 3 TD effort vs. the Bears on the road to get the team into the Conf. Final, which they lost because they had zero offensive weapons (SSmith hurt, S.Davis & Foster out).

Delhomme is clearly the guy, he's a leader and the staff likes him. The team's struggles this season were due in most part to injury (Wharton & Morgan being the most impactful). Not to mention the stupid fake punt return call by Fox vs. Minn is really what ultimately kept them out of the playoffs.

IMHO the biggest problem is defense. Mike Minter has gotten old and lost a step, Dan Morgan can't stay healthy (compounded by the choice to sign him and let Witherspoon free), and it looks like Rucker will be gone now, too.

I also heard some scuttlebutt regarding their interest in Reggie Nelson, so we'll see how he does vs. OSU.
:goodposting: Carolina won't take a QB in the 1st round. Not their MO and Fox has stated his disdain for takinig an early QB as they take too long to develop. The biggest needs are OL (hope for a LT, but they need a starter so they can move Wahle there if they have to), MLB, DB (Mostly FS and SS as they were extremely weak covering the TE and WR's down the seams as well as a lot of their run yardage coming up the gut), and finally WR. Keyshaun is getting older and I think Drew Carter is better suited for the #3wr. Colbert may very well find himself looking for another job next year.
 
Colin Dowling said:
Biabreakable said:
Would Gaines Adams work as a 3-4 DE?The Cowgurls need offensive linemen not more Lbers.
Their pass rush is atrocious. They need an OLB or two that can get to the passer.
Carpenter is giving some reason for hope. He was a beast at times last night, and we know Ware has the other side held down.
 
ChampBailey24 said:
Kip Dynamite said:
I think this mock is way off on many picks.Cleveland won't pass on PetersonDolphins won't take a qbSamardzja won't go 1st round. I know I spelled his name wrong but he's not worth looking up.Cards will take an ol.
1.Why not? The chances that either Michael Bush or Kenny Irons are available at 2.3 are quite high so I don't see why they wouldn't take Gaines Adams.2. Culpepper has been awful in his last 2 seasons and Harrington has always been awful. I don't see why they wouldn't go QB3. Probably not but hey, there's always a chance. The Pats need a WR and Weis will probably try to hype Samardzija to Bellichick and Co.4. Probably, but they will likely do so in the 2nd round and/or later if Joe Thomas isn't available at 1.5.
Cleveland finished dead last in the NFL in scoring two years ago.Last year they saw Charlie Frye take a step backwards and his backup flail as thier offense ranked near the bottom of the leauge once again. They drafted defense with their top two picks last year. This year both Brady Quinn and Troy Smith have said that they would like to play for the Browns. The need at QB is greater than a 4-3 DE. Adrian Peterson is a great RB prospect but Russell or Quinn is the pick if either are available. AP is a Dawg Pound pipe dream. RBs don't have the dramatic impact for winning that QBs have. See the top RB performances over the last decade. 2,000 yard seasons by, Terrell Davis - won SBs with HOF QB John Elway but flailed the year he retired, Barry Sanders - never did much in the post season without a QB, Jamal Lewis - got knocked out of the post season in his signature 2,000 yard year. Then look at the other incredible RB seasons of late. Shuan Alexander - had a Pro Bowl QB in Hasselbeck. LdT - has a Pro Bowl QB in Phil Rivers. RBs are the complimentary pieces to bring in after landing the QB and developing them for a few years since they have limited NFL shelf life and they do not need nearly as much time to get up to speed as a QB. It takes two to three years for a QB to get up to speed as an impact player. It only takes a RB a half season. Charlie Frye is not the answer and neither is Derek Anderson. The Browns will take either Quinn/Russell, without hesitation, if they have a shot at either of them with their first pick.
 
Dwayne Jarrett will not fall past the Titans...get real.

And since when is Tony Gonzalez just a common knowledge shoe-in for HOF?

ridiculous.

 
ChampBailey24 said:
Kip Dynamite said:
I think this mock is way off on many picks.Cleveland won't pass on PetersonDolphins won't take a qbSamardzja won't go 1st round. I know I spelled his name wrong but he's not worth looking up.Cards will take an ol.
1.Why not? The chances that either Michael Bush or Kenny Irons are available at 2.3 are quite high so I don't see why they wouldn't take Gaines Adams.2. Culpepper has been awful in his last 2 seasons and Harrington has always been awful. I don't see why they wouldn't go QB3. Probably not but hey, there's always a chance. The Pats need a WR and Weis will probably try to hype Samardzija to Bellichick and Co.4. Probably, but they will likely do so in the 2nd round and/or later if Joe Thomas isn't available at 1.5.
Cleveland finished dead last in the NFL in scoring two years ago.Last year they saw Charlie Frye take a step backwards and his backup flail as thier offense ranked near the bottom of the leauge once again. They drafted defense with their top two picks last year. This year both Brady Quinn and Troy Smith have said that they would like to play for the Browns. The need at QB is greater than a 4-3 DE. Adrian Peterson is a great RB prospect but Russell or Quinn is the pick if either are available. AP is a Dawg Pound pipe dream. RBs don't have the dramatic impact for winning that QBs have. See the top RB performances over the last decade. 2,000 yard seasons by, Terrell Davis - won SBs with HOF QB John Elway but flailed the year he retired, Barry Sanders - never did much in the post season without a QB, Jamal Lewis - got knocked out of the post season in his signature 2,000 yard year. Then look at the other incredible RB seasons of late. Shuan Alexander - had a Pro Bowl QB in Hasselbeck. LdT - has a Pro Bowl QB in Phil Rivers. RBs are the complimentary pieces to bring in after landing the QB and developing them for a few years since they have limited NFL shelf life and they do not need nearly as much time to get up to speed as a QB. It takes two to three years for a QB to get up to speed as an impact player. It only takes a RB a half season. Charlie Frye is not the answer and neither is Derek Anderson. The Browns will take either Quinn/Russell, without hesitation, if they have a shot at either of them with their first pick.
If that's true, as a Browns fan, I hope both of them are gone by pick 3. They need to improve the offensive line before any QB can succeed in Cleveland. They've tried it the other way a few times now and it just doesn't work. Every year there are "great QB" in the draft, however, very few of them succeed when playing behind an OL that's like a sieve.
 
diesel7982 said:
Why is it when people come on here posting a "good" mock, its inevitably horrible?
So why don't you just let us know what the draft is going to look like genius. Obviously you've never been surprised and every draft has gone as you have thought. So please enlighten us on the draft that will be taking place in another 4 months and let us know exactly what is going to happen since you are so superior. You know what I hate is when some people try to come up with interesting thoughts to talk about and someone rips them without posting their own. Let me ask you this, were you surprised when Detroit took Mike Williams after taking Rogers and Roy Williams? I bet you would have said "no way" if someone were to have mocked that happening. Therefore, I'm saying never say never. Anything can happen and until I see squat come from you I think your ridiculious.
 
ChampBailey24 said:
Kip Dynamite said:
I think this mock is way off on many picks.Cleveland won't pass on PetersonDolphins won't take a qbSamardzja won't go 1st round. I know I spelled his name wrong but he's not worth looking up.Cards will take an ol.
1.Why not? The chances that either Michael Bush or Kenny Irons are available at 2.3 are quite high so I don't see why they wouldn't take Gaines Adams.2. Culpepper has been awful in his last 2 seasons and Harrington has always been awful. I don't see why they wouldn't go QB3. Probably not but hey, there's always a chance. The Pats need a WR and Weis will probably try to hype Samardzija to Bellichick and Co.4. Probably, but they will likely do so in the 2nd round and/or later if Joe Thomas isn't available at 1.5.
Cleveland finished dead last in the NFL in scoring two years ago.Last year they saw Charlie Frye take a step backwards and his backup flail as thier offense ranked near the bottom of the leauge once again. They drafted defense with their top two picks last year. This year both Brady Quinn and Troy Smith have said that they would like to play for the Browns. The need at QB is greater than a 4-3 DE. Adrian Peterson is a great RB prospect but Russell or Quinn is the pick if either are available. AP is a Dawg Pound pipe dream. RBs don't have the dramatic impact for winning that QBs have. See the top RB performances over the last decade. 2,000 yard seasons by, Terrell Davis - won SBs with HOF QB John Elway but flailed the year he retired, Barry Sanders - never did much in the post season without a QB, Jamal Lewis - got knocked out of the post season in his signature 2,000 yard year. Then look at the other incredible RB seasons of late. Shuan Alexander - had a Pro Bowl QB in Hasselbeck. LdT - has a Pro Bowl QB in Phil Rivers. RBs are the complimentary pieces to bring in after landing the QB and developing them for a few years since they have limited NFL shelf life and they do not need nearly as much time to get up to speed as a QB. It takes two to three years for a QB to get up to speed as an impact player. It only takes a RB a half season. Charlie Frye is not the answer and neither is Derek Anderson. The Browns will take either Quinn/Russell, without hesitation, if they have a shot at either of them with their first pick.
If that's true, as a Browns fan, I hope both of them are gone by pick 3. They need to improve the offensive line before any QB can succeed in Cleveland. They've tried it the other way a few times now and it just doesn't work. Every year there are "great QB" in the draft, however, very few of them succeed when playing behind an OL that's like a sieve.
The Browns do not have to draft offensive line before drafting a QB and they should not. The Browns do not have to waste their high first round pick on an offensive lineman in this draft. Top notch offensive lineman can be had in the later rounds, just look at some of the great offensive linemen taken in the second round.Larry Allen, Willie Roaf, La Charles Bently, Marcus McNiel, all quality second round stalwart offensive linemen. Drew Brees is the only quality second round QB drafted in the last decade, that is it. Lenard Davis can be signed and pluged into the ORT position. Big bucks were spent on the OLT from Atlanta last year. La Charles Bently is the highest paid offensive center in the league. The Browns will not go out and spend large amounts on an OLT/OC. Marcus McNeil was drafted in the second round last year, the Browns can target the highest ranked OLT in the second round. Fraley has played OK, and is versatile in that he can also play OG. He has a reasonable contract. Bently may not be back. Targeting center/guard in the third round is reasonable and top notch OGs/OCs can be found in the third round and later. Then take a flyer on another OG/OC in the remaining rounds if one becomes available. Two to three rookie offensive lineman and a solid Pro Bowl vet ORT would be more than enough to address the O-line.Russell or Quinn are both franchise level QB prospective talents and that is what the first pick should be devoted to. The offensive line can be addressed later.
 
ChampBailey24 said:
Kip Dynamite said:
I think this mock is way off on many picks.Cleveland won't pass on PetersonDolphins won't take a qbSamardzja won't go 1st round. I know I spelled his name wrong but he's not worth looking up.Cards will take an ol.
1.Why not? The chances that either Michael Bush or Kenny Irons are available at 2.3 are quite high so I don't see why they wouldn't take Gaines Adams.2. Culpepper has been awful in his last 2 seasons and Harrington has always been awful. I don't see why they wouldn't go QB3. Probably not but hey, there's always a chance. The Pats need a WR and Weis will probably try to hype Samardzija to Bellichick and Co.4. Probably, but they will likely do so in the 2nd round and/or later if Joe Thomas isn't available at 1.5.
Cleveland finished dead last in the NFL in scoring two years ago.Last year they saw Charlie Frye take a step backwards and his backup flail as thier offense ranked near the bottom of the leauge once again. They drafted defense with their top two picks last year. This year both Brady Quinn and Troy Smith have said that they would like to play for the Browns. The need at QB is greater than a 4-3 DE. Adrian Peterson is a great RB prospect but Russell or Quinn is the pick if either are available. AP is a Dawg Pound pipe dream. RBs don't have the dramatic impact for winning that QBs have. See the top RB performances over the last decade. 2,000 yard seasons by, Terrell Davis - won SBs with HOF QB John Elway but flailed the year he retired, Barry Sanders - never did much in the post season without a QB, Jamal Lewis - got knocked out of the post season in his signature 2,000 yard year. Then look at the other incredible RB seasons of late. Shuan Alexander - had a Pro Bowl QB in Hasselbeck. LdT - has a Pro Bowl QB in Phil Rivers. RBs are the complimentary pieces to bring in after landing the QB and developing them for a few years since they have limited NFL shelf life and they do not need nearly as much time to get up to speed as a QB. It takes two to three years for a QB to get up to speed as an impact player. It only takes a RB a half season. Charlie Frye is not the answer and neither is Derek Anderson. The Browns will take either Quinn/Russell, without hesitation, if they have a shot at either of them with their first pick.
If that's true, as a Browns fan, I hope both of them are gone by pick 3. They need to improve the offensive line before any QB can succeed in Cleveland. They've tried it the other way a few times now and it just doesn't work. Every year there are "great QB" in the draft, however, very few of them succeed when playing behind an OL that's like a sieve.
The Browns do not have to draft offensive line before drafting a QB and they should not. The Browns do not have to waste their high first round pick on an offensive lineman in this draft. Top notch offensive lineman can be had in the later rounds, just look at some of the great offensive linemen taken in the second round.Larry Allen, Willie Roaf, La Charles Bently, Marcus McNiel, all quality second round stalwart offensive linemen. Drew Brees is the only quality second round QB drafted in the last decade, that is it. Lenard Davis can be signed and pluged into the ORT position. Big bucks were spent on the OLT from Atlanta last year. La Charles Bently is the highest paid offensive center in the league. The Browns will not go out and spend large amounts on an OLT/OC. Marcus McNeil was drafted in the second round last year, the Browns can target the highest ranked OLT in the second round. Fraley has played OK, and is versatile in that he can also play OG. He has a reasonable contract. Bently may not be back. Targeting center/guard in the third round is reasonable and top notch OGs/OCs can be found in the third round and later. Then take a flyer on another OG/OC in the remaining rounds if one becomes available. Two to three rookie offensive lineman and a solid Pro Bowl vet ORT would be more than enough to address the O-line.Russell or Quinn are both franchise level QB prospective talents and that is what the first pick should be devoted to. The offensive line can be addressed later.
What do you think of the Browns going after Peterson? Are you saying the y should go for a qb or just a skilled player?
 
One thing I feel should happen is that the Browns need O-lineman. This is the single biggest need they have. They can accomplish this in the draft and/or in FA or both but they must do this if they are improve. They may be without Bentley for part or most of 2007 so they have to do something.

IIRC they have not used and first day picks for O-lineman. Well it shows.

 
One thing I feel should happen is that the Browns need O-lineman. This is the single biggest need they have. They can accomplish this in the draft and/or in FA or both but they must do this if they are improve. They may be without Bentley for part or most of 2007 so they have to do something.

IIRC they have not used and first day picks for O-lineman. Well it shows.
This guy knows stuff!!
 
Larry Allen, Willie Roaf, La Charles Bently, Marcus McNiel, all quality second round stalwart offensive linemen. Drew Brees is the only quality second round QB drafted in the last decade, that is it.
Plummer doesn't cut it for you?Favre was 1991. (I know, not recent)Maybe they should draft a QB in the 6th round. Tom Brady, Matt Hasselbeck, Marc Bulger...
 
ChampBailey24 said:
Kip Dynamite said:
I think this mock is way off on many picks.Cleveland won't pass on PetersonDolphins won't take a qbSamardzja won't go 1st round. I know I spelled his name wrong but he's not worth looking up.Cards will take an ol.
1.Why not? The chances that either Michael Bush or Kenny Irons are available at 2.3 are quite high so I don't see why they wouldn't take Gaines Adams.2. Culpepper has been awful in his last 2 seasons and Harrington has always been awful. I don't see why they wouldn't go QB3. Probably not but hey, there's always a chance. The Pats need a WR and Weis will probably try to hype Samardzija to Bellichick and Co.4. Probably, but they will likely do so in the 2nd round and/or later if Joe Thomas isn't available at 1.5.
Cleveland finished dead last in the NFL in scoring two years ago.Last year they saw Charlie Frye take a step backwards and his backup flail as thier offense ranked near the bottom of the leauge once again. They drafted defense with their top two picks last year. This year both Brady Quinn and Troy Smith have said that they would like to play for the Browns. The need at QB is greater than a 4-3 DE. Adrian Peterson is a great RB prospect but Russell or Quinn is the pick if either are available. AP is a Dawg Pound pipe dream. RBs don't have the dramatic impact for winning that QBs have. See the top RB performances over the last decade. 2,000 yard seasons by, Terrell Davis - won SBs with HOF QB John Elway but flailed the year he retired, Barry Sanders - never did much in the post season without a QB, Jamal Lewis - got knocked out of the post season in his signature 2,000 yard year. Then look at the other incredible RB seasons of late. Shuan Alexander - had a Pro Bowl QB in Hasselbeck. LdT - has a Pro Bowl QB in Phil Rivers. RBs are the complimentary pieces to bring in after landing the QB and developing them for a few years since they have limited NFL shelf life and they do not need nearly as much time to get up to speed as a QB. It takes two to three years for a QB to get up to speed as an impact player. It only takes a RB a half season. Charlie Frye is not the answer and neither is Derek Anderson. The Browns will take either Quinn/Russell, without hesitation, if they have a shot at either of them with their first pick.
If that's true, as a Browns fan, I hope both of them are gone by pick 3. They need to improve the offensive line before any QB can succeed in Cleveland. They've tried it the other way a few times now and it just doesn't work. Every year there are "great QB" in the draft, however, very few of them succeed when playing behind an OL that's like a sieve.
I agree with you. If you look at the Bengals this year, you see a great QB, 3 WR's and and a RB. The reason they didn't play up tp expectations can be explained do to the injuries on the O-line. Having great skill players is nice as long as they have a line blocking and protecting for them. No line equals poor perofrmance.
 
What do you think of the Browns going after Peterson? Are you saying the y should go for a qb or just a skilled player?
AP is a stud RB prospect. Quinn is the top ranked QB in this draft at this time and he's the most NFL ready. Wies/Crennel connection but their is also a Russell/Savage connection as well. Droughns rushed for over 1,200 yards with the Broncos and Browns in back-to-back seasons. When Frye became the starter at the tail end of 2005 Reuben's average per carry plummetted by a full yard. The coaches said he was fatigued but it was because the defense loaded eight in the box and dared Frye to beat them, he couldn't. This year the same thing happened. AP is not a good fit for the Browns at this time. The average NFL RB life is less than five years, the lowest average of any starting position on either side of the ball. Kicker/Punter have the longest lives but of the other positions QB has the longest life. By and large, it takes a QB two to three years to get up to speed, it takes a RB a half a season to get up to speed where either is capable of being fully effective. The goal is to have as many positions on the field being fully effective at one time to gain a competative advantage over the opponent. By getting the QB first, a team can build the team around the QB. Look at some of the more effective NFL QBs of late:Culpepper - sat a year before taking overCarson Palmer - sat before taking overRivers - sat before taking overRomo - sat before taking overCambel - sat before taking overMore recent examples, this last year's rookie class:VY - got shoved in prematurely and struggled early before hitting strideLienart - looked fantastic but was a FIVE YEAR starting QB for the Trojans who played in an NFL system coached by an NFL OC and was considered the most NFL ready much like Quinn this year.Cutler - sat the longest and ended up with the highest QB rating of the rookie class Russell is raw, if he is drafted by the Browns they will need to sit him and give him time to acclimate. Quinn could start by mid season if he is drafted by the Browns. I'd take either of them over AP and I luv AP as a RB prospect but he's not as valuable to the Browns as a talented franchise QB.Per Family Matters
One thing I feel should happen is that the Browns need O-lineman. This is the single biggest need they have. They can accomplish this in the draft and/or in FA or both but they must do this if they are improve. They may be without Bentley for part or most of 2007 so they have to do something.IIRC they have not used and first day picks for O-lineman. Well it shows.
They do need offensive linemen yet they do not need to draft them in the first round. The single, key word being SINGLE, as in ONE player need is QB without doubt. They can accomplish landing their SINGLE greatest need with their top pick in this draft. They can also accomplish improving the offensive line as described above with a combination of one judicious free agent signing and targeting highest rated offensive linemen after the first round. FWIW I like Joe Thomas but the Browns may never get another shot at a franchise QB for decades. They've wasted two years on Frye already. Jeff Faine was a first day pick used by the Browns on an offensive lineman. One of only two first round picks used on a center in the first round in the last decade. He was not effective. Robert Gallery, Mike Williams, Kenyatta Walker, show that high first round picks used on offensive linemen are no sure bet of getting a quality player. The best offensive lineman taken in the last five years was McNeil in the second round of last year. The second round has been a sweet spot for finding quality offensive linemen whereas the highest level for successfully drafting a quality QB is in the top three spots of a typical NFL draft. Opportunities for landing a franchise QB are rare and cannot be wasted.
 
What do you think of the Browns going after Peterson? Are you saying the y should go for a qb or just a skilled player?
AP is a stud RB prospect. Quinn is the top ranked QB in this draft at this time and he's the most NFL ready. Wies/Crennel connection but their is also a Russell/Savage connection as well. Droughns rushed for over 1,200 yards with the Broncos and Browns in back-to-back seasons. When Frye became the starter at the tail end of 2005 Reuben's average per carry plummetted by a full yard. The coaches said he was fatigued but it was because the defense loaded eight in the box and dared Frye to beat them, he couldn't. This year the same thing happened. AP is not a good fit for the Browns at this time. The average NFL RB life is less than five years, the lowest average of any starting position on either side of the ball. Kicker/Punter have the longest lives but of the other positions QB has the longest life. By and large, it takes a QB two to three years to get up to speed, it takes a RB a half a season to get up to speed where either is capable of being fully effective. The goal is to have as many positions on the field being fully effective at one time to gain a competative advantage over the opponent. By getting the QB first, a team can build the team around the QB.

Look at some of the more effective NFL QBs of late:

Culpepper - sat a year before taking over

Carson Palmer - sat before taking over

Rivers - sat before taking over

Romo - sat before taking over

Cambel - sat before taking over

More recent examples, this last year's rookie class:

VY - got shoved in prematurely and struggled early before hitting stride

Lienart - looked fantastic but was a FIVE YEAR starting QB for the Trojans who played in an NFL system coached by an NFL OC and was considered the most NFL ready much like Quinn this year.

Cutler - sat the longest and ended up with the highest QB rating of the rookie class

Russell is raw, if he is drafted by the Browns they will need to sit him and give him time to acclimate. Quinn could start by mid season if he is drafted by the Browns. I'd take either of them over AP and I luv AP as a RB prospect but he's not as valuable to the Browns as a talented franchise QB.

Per Family Matters

One thing I feel should happen is that the Browns need O-lineman. This is the single biggest need they have. They can accomplish this in the draft and/or in FA or both but they must do this if they are improve. They may be without Bentley for part or most of 2007 so they have to do something.

IIRC they have not used and first day picks for O-lineman. Well it shows.
They do need offensive linemen yet they do not need to draft them in the first round. The single, key word being SINGLE, as in ONE player need is QB without doubt. They can accomplish landing their SINGLE greatest need with their top pick in this draft. They can also accomplish improving the offensive line as described above with a combination of one judicious free agent signing and targeting highest rated offensive linemen after the first round. FWIW I like Joe Thomas but the Browns may never get another shot at a franchise QB for decades. They've wasted two years on Frye already. Jeff Faine was a first day pick used by the Browns on an offensive lineman. One of only two first round picks used on a center in the first round in the last decade. He was not effective. Robert Gallery, Mike Williams, Kenyatta Walker, show that high first round picks used on offensive linemen are no sure bet of getting a quality player. The best offensive lineman taken in the last five years was McNeil in the second round of last year. The second round has been a sweet spot for finding quality offensive linemen whereas the highest level for successfully drafting a quality QB is in the top three spots of a typical NFL draft. Opportunities for landing a franchise QB are rare and cannot be wasted.
Three year starting QB
 
Larry Allen, Willie Roaf, La Charles Bently, Marcus McNiel, all quality second round stalwart offensive linemen. Drew Brees is the only quality second round QB drafted in the last decade, that is it.
Plummer doesn't cut it for you?Favre was 1991. (I know, not recent)Maybe they should draft a QB in the 6th round. Tom Brady, Matt Hasselbeck, Marc Bulger...
Missed Jake. Made quick list going off the top of my head however I can find other offensive linemen from the second round over the last decade who are performing as well in the trenches as Jake has behind center without much effort. Farve isn't in the last decade and he was traded away from the team that drafted him prior to him blowing up.Per drafting QBs in the sixth round. - 20 yr draft study of QBs taken after the first round from 1983 to 2003. 248 QBs taken, two won SBs WITH THE TEAMS THAT DRAFTED THEM, Rypen and Brady. Only Brady could be considered a QUALITY QB taken after the first round by the team that drafted them that won the SB. 1/248 = .0004% Naming the only two sixth round QBs over the last decade who have become quality QBs there really is only one who was drafted by the team that selected him that produced for his team. Bulger was cut and plucked off of the waiver wire. Side note, Mike Martz is the only offensive coordinator/head coach to take two QBs off of the waiver wire and turn them into Pro Bowl QBs in a three year time frame so both Warner and Bulger are not only rare exceptions but their is a rare coaching element in place much like Joe Gibbs taking three QBs to three different Super Bowls in the eighties. Basically plucking out the exception and ignoring the rule is herry picking the lowest probability way to draft a quality QB. If you want the absolute lowest probablity way to land a quality QB then you should suggest scouting grocery store bag boys ALA Kurt Warner which is ofcourse ridiculous. The Browns used nearly as ridiculous strategy in drafting a third round QB, Charlie Frye, and expecting him to produce simply becuase the GM said he was going down a path with Frye. The highest probability of landing a quality QB comes within the top three picks of a typical NFL draft. This draft has two top quality prospects and with the Browns selecting third, it is reasonable that they have a shot at one when its there time to pick and they have a dire need at QB so its a no-brain decision in my humble opinion.
 

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