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Dynasty RB rank of A. Peterson (Oklahoma) right now (1 Viewer)

offdee

offdee

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Edited to make clear to all that this thread was originally started in June of 2006

If you had to make your Dynasty RB rankings right now, and college players were included, where would Adrian Peterson (Oklahoma) fall into the mix?

From your own personal evaluations, risk assesment with all of the unknowns involved (eventual NFL team, etc.) where would you rank AD right now amongst the NFL RB's if going into an initial Dynasty Draft?

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RB- Adrian Peterson: 6-1, 218lbs, 4.40-4.45 speed, consensus Top 5 pick (presently) if declares for NFL Draft next year.

visual for anybody who's never seen him play...

http://media.putfile.com/Adrian-Peterson-Ride-the-Train

 
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I'd take the over. He has a straight up style of running and i see him being hurt a lot like Chris Brown who runs just like he does. Obviously you can't compare the two any other way as Peterson is already better in my eyes, but i don't see Peterson having a long career and would rather have Marshawn Lynch.

 
Value wise, he is worth more than Rb14 now. Let's say that rb14 is Julius Jones, and the Peterson will not get hurt this year. I make not assumptions on production, just health. If we look ahead at an initial dynasty draft for this time next year, Peterson goes before Jones. In fact, in several initial dynasty drafts this year, 2-3 rookie rbs were drafted before Julius Jones.

This is only addressing value and worth. We each have to make up our own minds on forecasting production.

 
Value wise, he is worth more than Rb14 now. Let's say that rb14 is Julius Jones, and the Peterson will not get hurt this year. I make not assumptions on production, just health. If we look ahead at an initial dynasty draft for this time next year, Peterson goes before Jones. In fact, in several initial dynasty drafts this year, 2-3 rookie rbs were drafted before Julius Jones.

This is only addressing value and worth. We each have to make up our own minds on forecasting production.
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For this purpose include both NFL Vets and NFL Rookies in your thoughts.....so A. Peterson would be lumped in with Larry Johnson and Reggie Bush, etc.
 
I couldnt justify him at 14th absorbing no production this year and having his situation be a total unknown. He's probably in the 20-25 range. below maroney/deangelo/Benson, but above White, Addai. I like Peterson, but I liked him more a few years ago, injuries and a struggling team (for Oklahoma) seem to be limiting him.

 
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For anybody wondering where this is coming from, I'm presently involved in an initial Dynasty Draft where we're able to draft college players and I recently drafted Adrian Peterson as the RB#14. After the pick there were a lot of "Wow's" and doubters (which is what I expected) but wanted to get others thoughts outside of the draft.

Here's how the draft went for RB's so far....Let's leave the evaluation of the actual picks out of this thread if possible and talk about the question at hand.

1) LJ

2) LT2

3) Portis

4) S. Alex.

5) Caddy

6) Tiki

7) R. Brown

8) LaMont

9) Bush

10) SJax

11) Rudi

12) Edge

13) D. Davis

14) Adrian Peterson

15) McGahee

16) Maroney

17) Westbrook

Personally, I had AD ranked as the #9 RB and felt getting him at #14 was good value, but others in the league obviously felt differently which is why I'm curious what others think.

 
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Can't fault you for having Peterson ranked that high as a rookie. Caddy was ranked high last year, ditto for Bush this year. KJones before them.

At least you made your own decision before asking the masses.

Much respect for that.

 
For anybody wondering where this is coming from, I'm presently involved in an initial Dynasty Draft where we're able to draft college players and I recently drafted Adrian Peterson as the RB#14. After the pick there were a lot of "Wow's" and doubters (which is what I expected) but wanted to get others thoughts outside of the draft.

Here's how the draft went for RB's so far....Let's leave the evaluation of the actual picks out of this thread if possible and talk about the question at hand.

1) LJ

2) LT2

3) Portis

4) S. Alex.

5) Caddy

6) Tiki

7) R. Brown

8) LaMont

9) Bush

10) SJax

11) Rudi

12) Edge

13) D. Davis

14) Adrian Peterson

15) McGahee

16) Maroney

17) Westbrook

Personally, I had AD ranked as the #9 RB and felt getting him at #14 was good value, but others in the league obviously felt differently which is why I'm curious what others think.
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:eek: over McGahee? :no: McGahee was more dominant in college than Peterson.I like Peterson, a lot. I think he'll have a nice career, but I wouldn't take him before Benson, who is my #20.

 
:eek: over McGahee? :no: McGahee was more dominant in college than Peterson.
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McGahee:JR. season: 349 carries, 2,067 yds, 31TD's

** suffered a bad knee injury

Peterson

FR. season: 339 carries, 1,925 yds, 15TD's

** only started 8 games as a Frosh. and split carries first half of season.

** runner up in Heisman voting as a true Freshman (highest ever for True Frosh)

SO. season: 220 carries, 1,108 yds, 14TD's

** missed basically 4 games with a sprained ankle

** played with a true Frosh QB and very young O-Line

 
I couldnt justify him at 14th absorbing no production this year and having his situation be a total unknown. He's probably in the 20-25 range. below maroney/deangelo/Benson, but above White, Addai. I like Peterson, but I liked him more a few years ago, injuries and a struggling team (for Oklahoma) seem to be limiting him.
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Damn, you would really put those rookies ahead of him? None of them (or McGahee) were nearly as dominant in any year of college as Peterson was as a freshman. If much of it is because he'd get you nothing this year, I don't think Benson/Williams/Maroney will do much in terms of starter numbers unless Jones/Dillon/Foster go down at some point. Peterson is a monster, and he'll be back this year with an improved Bromar. I'd put him in the top 14 no doubt.
 
Value wise, he is worth more than Rb14 now. ...and the Peterson will not get hurt this year. I make not assumptions on production, just health. If we look ahead at an initial dynasty draft for this time next year, Peterson goes before...

This is only addressing value and worth.
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I believe what I kept in this post above sums up my feelings completely.In regards to health...even the guy who takes LJ at #1 has that risk associated with that pick, so I keep that out of the scenario. Football is a dangerous sport and everybody is susceptible to injury at any time.

So, assuming AD stays healthy and everything goes as expected this season, there is no way in initial Dynasty Drafts next season that AD is not a top 10 ranked Dynasty RB....so getting him at #14 is value in my mind.

Remember, this is a Dynasty League, and once you wait out that one season than he's on your roster and producing for you. Is it risky, sure it is, but it's just as risky as selecting Reggie Bush as a top 5 pick which nobody bats an eye about.

 
:eek: over McGahee? :no: McGahee was more dominant in college than Peterson.
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McGahee:JR. season: 349 carries, 2,067 yds, 31TD's

** suffered a bad knee injury

Peterson

FR. season: 339 carries, 1,925 yds, 15TD's

** only started 8 games as a Frosh. and split carries first half of season.

** runner up in Heisman voting as a true Freshman (highest ever for True Frosh)

SO. season: 220 carries, 1,108 yds, 14TD's

** missed basically 4 games with a sprained ankle

** played with a true Frosh QB and very young O-Line
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The knee injury is totally irrelevent in this discussion.First, he's recovered fairly well and will continue to improve.

Second, my comment was about his dominance, and the 31 TDs shows he did, not to mention a tougher schedule.

 
Value wise, he is worth more than Rb14 now. ...and the Peterson will not get hurt this year. I make not assumptions on production, just health. If we look ahead at an initial dynasty draft for this time next year, Peterson goes before...

This is only addressing value and worth.
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I believe what I kept in this post above sums up my feelings completely.In regards to health...even the guy who takes LJ at #1 has that risk associated with that pick, so I keep that out of the scenario. Football is a dangerous sport and everybody is susceptible to injury at any time.

So, assuming AD stays healthy and everything goes as expected this season, there is no way in initial Dynasty Drafts next season that AD is not a top 10 ranked Dynasty RB....so getting him at #14 is value in my mind.

Remember, this is a Dynasty League, and once you wait out that one season than he's on your roster and producing for you. Is it risky, sure it is, but it's just as risky as selecting Reggie Bush as a top 5 pick which nobody bats an eye about.
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"no way he isn't a top 10" - :bs: Like I said, I like the kid, but he has done nothing in the NFL.

BTW - where has Bush gone top 5 "without anyone batting an eye"? Some dope may reach for him, but people question that pick all the time.

I don't have the stats in front of me, but did Peterson dominate top defenses?

2005 OPPONENTS Att Yds Avg TD

TCU (Sep. 3) 22 63 2.9 1

Tulsa (Sep. 10) 32 220 6.9 3

at UCLA (Sep. 17) 23 58 2.5 1

Kansas State (Oct. 1) 8 51 6.4 1

at Texas (Oct. 8) 3 10 3.3 0

at Kansas (Oct. 15) -

Baylor (Oct. 22) -

at Nebraska (Oct. 29) 24 146 6.1 2

Texas A&M (Nov. 12) 27 135 5.0 2

at Texas Tech (Nov. 19) 29 108 3.7 2

OK State (Nov. 26) 24 237 9.9 2

Oregon (Dec. 29) 23 84 3.7 0

Some very nice games for sure, but none of these defenses were exactly dominant.

2004 OPPONENTS Att Yds Avg TD

Bowling Green (Sep. 4) 16 100 6.3 1

Houston (Sep. 11) 25 117 4.7 2

Oregon (Sep. 18) 24 183 7.6 2

Texas Tech (Oct. 2) 22 146 6.6 1

Texas (Oct. 9) 32 225 7.0 0

at Kansas State (Oct. 16) 36 130 3.6 0

Kansas (Oct. 23) 22 122 5.5 1

at OK State (Oct. 30) 33 249 7.5 1

at Texas A&M (Nov. 6) 29 101 3.5 1

Nebraska (Nov. 13) 15 58 3.9 0

at Baylor (Nov. 20) 32 240 7.5 3

Colorado (Dec. 4) 28 172 6.1 3

at Southern Cal (Jan. 4) 25 82 3.3 0

2004 was much more impressive, maybe that had something to do with Jason White, Mark Clayton, etc?

 
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I couldnt justify him at 14th absorbing no production this year and having his situation be a total unknown. He's probably in the 20-25 range. below maroney/deangelo/Benson, but above White, Addai. I like Peterson, but I liked him more a few years ago, injuries and a struggling team (for Oklahoma) seem to be limiting him.
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Damn, you would really put those rookies ahead of him? None of them (or McGahee) were nearly as dominant in any year of college as Peterson was as a freshman. If much of it is because he'd get you nothing this year, I don't think Benson/Williams/Maroney will do much in terms of starter numbers unless Jones/Dillon/Foster go down at some point. Peterson is a monster, and he'll be back this year with an improved Bromar. I'd put him in the top 14 no doubt.
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McGahee was far more dominante in his main year of college which was made rather obvious from the stats provided earlier IMO.
 
2004 was much more impressive, maybe that had something to do with Jason White, Mark Clayton, etc?
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But, McGahee's impressive season had nothing to do with Ken Dorsey and Andre Johnson and Kellen Winslow Jr.?I'm not sure how you can discount the knee injury either...all of his impressive stats and "domination" were done before he suffered the knee injury, and I don't think anybody would argue that he's less explosive since suffering it.

Don't get me wrong, I really like McGahee and it was a hard decision between him and AD so we're really splitting hairs here....the potential "upside" is what I went with.

But, if McGahee was gone before then (which he probably should've been) and my choices were left with what was taken next (Maroney, Westbrook) and even a few of the guys that got picked before (Tiki, D. Davis, LaMont, Rudi)....it really wouldn't have been a hard decision at all for me.

 
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McGahee had in 2003:

282 carries, 1753 yds, 28 TDs, 6.2 avg, 27 rec, 355 yds, 0 Tds, 13.1 avg, total: 2108/28

Peterson had in 2004:

339 carries, 1925 yds, 15 TDs, 5.7 avg, 5 rec, 12 yds, 0 TDs, 2.4 avg, total: 1937/15

 
2004 was much more impressive, maybe that had something to do with Jason White, Mark Clayton, etc?
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But, McGahee's impressive season had nothing to do with Ken Dorsey and Andre Johnson?
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Have you completly forgotten what the OU team had on O Peterson's Fresh year!?!?
 
2004 was much more impressive, maybe that had something to do with Jason White, Mark Clayton, etc?
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But, McGahee's impressive season had nothing to do with Ken Dorsey and Andre Johnson?I'm not sure how you can discount the knee injury either...all of his impressive stats and "domination" were done before he suffered the knee injury, and I don't think anybody would argue that he's less explosive since suffering it.

Don't get me wrong, I really like McGahee and it was a hard decision between him and AD so we're really splitting hairs here....the potential "upside" is what I went with.

But, if McGahee was gone before then (which he probably should've been) and my choices were left with what was taken next (Maroney, Westbrook) and even a few of the guys that got picked before (Tiki, D. Davis, LaMont, Rudi)....it really wouldn't have been a hard decision at all for me.
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Of course McGahee's success had as much to do with his team as Peterson's did.My comment was about their relative dominance, before the knee injury. Why would the knee injury be a factor in that statement? Also, the point is that anything can happen in college, and the leap to the NFL is huge.

I readily agree with taking Peterson ahead of Maroney, Westbrook, Tiki, DD, and Jordan. assuming of course, you're willing to toss in this season and play for 2008 on. Just keep in mind, Benson was dominant in the Big XII too, although not as much, where's his value now? Many RBs that dominate in college don't have huge success immediately in the NFL. The upside is huge, but in the top 15, I don't want to wait a year or two before knowing where he'll be drafted, and another couple before he may even start a game. Think about it, it could be 4 years or more before you even know if AP is an NFL stud.

 
For anybody wondering where this is coming from, I'm presently involved in an initial Dynasty Draft where we're able to draft college players and I recently drafted Adrian Peterson as the RB#14. After the pick there were a lot of "Wow's" and doubters (which is what I expected) but wanted to get others thoughts outside of the draft.

Here's how the draft went for RB's so far....Let's leave the evaluation of the actual picks out of this thread if possible and talk about the question at hand.

1) LJ

2) LT2

3) Portis

4) S. Alex.

5) Caddy

6) Tiki

7) R. Brown

8) LaMont

9) Bush

10) SJax

11) Rudi

12) Edge

13) D. Davis

14) Adrian Peterson

15) McGahee

16) Maroney

17) Westbrook

Personally, I had AD ranked as the #9 RB and felt getting him at #14 was good value, but others in the league obviously felt differently which is why I'm curious what others think.
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I'd have to see the whole draft.If you took AP before Holt, Boldin, Fitz, SS, CJ, Moss, TO - you're insane. Why take the risk? Why set your team back a year, or maybe two? Initial dynasty, you take AP in the 2nd round? Cmon dawg. Now maybe QBs/WRs went well before you took AP. So I'll just focus on the RB part.

Ehhhh. AP won't be drafted for a year, no clue what team he goes to, and might not start in the NFL for 2-3 years. That's a long time to wait. Not to mention who you took him over. Clarett also had an amazing freshmen year. None of that means much in the NFL.

There's just no way I put myself behind the 8 ball like that in a 1st year dynasty. There's just no reason. Why sacrifice now for a long shot? Seriously you projected a sophomore college RB to a top 10 RB NFL RB? Not only that, you drafted him just outside the top 10. It's one thing to project, it's another thing to set your dynasty team back a few years on a gut feeling.

Ever heard of Dave Chappelle's "When keeping it real goes wrong"? This is fantasy man crush gone wrong.

 
2004 was much more impressive, maybe that had something to do with Jason White, Mark Clayton, etc?
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But, McGahee's impressive season had nothing to do with Ken Dorsey and Andre Johnson?
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Have you completly forgotten what the OU team had on O Peterson's Fresh year!?!?
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Not at all..FUBAR wrote it above which is what I was responding to.You're really gonna claim that Oklahoma's Jason White, Mark Clayton, and OU's O-Line of 2004 were more talented than Ken Dorsey, Andre Johnson, Kellen Winslow Jr. and Miami's O-Line of 2003?

 
Whole draft here:

1) LJ

2) LT2

3) Portis

4) S. Alex.

5) Caddy

6) Manning

7) Tiki

8) R. Brown

9) LaMont

10) Bush

11) SJax

12) Fitz

13) S.Smith

14) Rudi

15) Edge

16) D. Davis

17) Adrian Peterson

18) McGahee

19) C.Johnson

20) Boldin

21) Maroney

22) Holt

23) R.Moss

24) Westbrook

 
you came on here asking for peoples opinions on taking peterson at 14 in this years draft.. all you are getting is the opinions, with some facts backing them up. you do not need to defend your choice of peterson each time..

fact of the matter is, that it is a pretty big reach for a player who still may not enter the NFL next year and most likely could have been had with your second round pick(or later). it very well may work out quite well for you, but for taking him as high as you did(1-2 years away from being drafted, add another year of possible backup duty as a rookie), you need an awful lot of things to fall into place to get you the value you desire.. considering he may not be starting in the NFL for 2-3 years..

it just seems way too high of a pick on the hopes that everything goes the way you want.. which rarely happens

 
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2004 was much more impressive, maybe that had something to do with Jason White, Mark Clayton, etc?
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But, McGahee's impressive season had nothing to do with Ken Dorsey and Andre Johnson?
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Have you completly forgotten what the OU team had on O Peterson's Fresh year!?!?
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Not at all..FUBAR wrote it above which is what I was responding to.You're really gonna claim that Oklahoma's Jason White, Mark Clayton, and OU's O-Line of 2004 were more talented than Ken Dorsey, Andre Johnson, Kellen Winslow Jr. and Miami's O-Line of 2003?
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I think Mia was more talented, but OU did have like the best O in the country that year and it was rather close. Both teams sent several players into the NFL.
 
Whole draft here:

1) LJ

2) LT2

3) Portis

4) S. Alex.

5) Caddy

6) Manning

7) Tiki

8) R. Brown

9) LaMont

10) Bush

11) SJax

12) Fitz

13) S.Smith

14) Rudi

15) Edge

16) D. Davis

17) Adrian Peterson

18) McGahee

19) C.Johnson

20) Boldin

21) Maroney

22) Holt

23) R.Moss

24) Westbrook
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Just no way I take AP there. What if he gets drafted by SF? Yikes. There's no reason to play for 2008. Unless this is a free league. But if you're paying to shoot for 2008? I just don't see it. You could draft normally then just overpay for AP midseason if you team is hurting. CJ? Boldin? Holt? If this is PPR, I'm pretty much speechless.
 
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Whole draft here:

1) LJ

2) LT2

3) Portis

4) S. Alex.

5) Caddy

6) Manning

7) Tiki

8) R. Brown

9) LaMont

10) Bush

11) SJax

12) Fitz

13) S.Smith

14) Rudi

15) Edge

16) D. Davis

17) Adrian Peterson

18) McGahee

19) C.Johnson

20) Boldin

21) Maroney

22) Holt

23) R.Moss

24) Westbrook
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Just no way I take AP there. What if he gets drafted by SF? Yikes. There's no reason to play for 2008. Unless this is a free league. But if you're paying to shoot for 2008? I just don't see it. You could draft normally then just overpay for AP midseason if you team is hurting. CJ? Boldin? Holt? If this is PPR, I'm pretty much speechless.
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No PPR, but still when I saw where Holt and Moss fell to I promptly traded up to get Moss along with Portis... much like I already have in my other dynasty league. :unsure:
 
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This is a good topic that tailspinned out of control.

It's a valid question to ask where guys like Peterson, Lynch, and M. Bush would be rated a year from now (based on talent alone).

Makes people think of teams that will need RBs next year as well (Green Bay, Baltimore, and NY Jets come to my mind quickly).

 
This is a good topic that tailspinned out of control.

It's a valid question to ask where guys like Peterson, Lynch, and M. Bush would be rated a year from now (based on talent alone).

Makes people think of teams that will need RBs next year as well (Green Bay, Baltimore, and NY Jets come to my mind quickly).
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I'm in this league and I don't think its all that bad of a pick so long as he is sold on the ability of Pterson ala Bush. My only question, which I possed during the draft, is that I thought he could have landed him in rounds 4 or 5. Apparently there was another person in the hunt for Peterson too and that didn't look likely. I'm all for taking the guy you want and value if you don't think he will be there at your next pick. Ballsy pick offdee, but thats what drafting is about. :thumbup: That isn't gonna stop me from trash talking you for years to come though. :D
 
you came on here asking for peoples opinions on taking peterson at 14 in this years draft.. all you are getting is the opinions, with some facts backing them up. you do not need to defend your choice of peterson each time..

fact of the matter is, that it is a pretty big reach for a player who still may not enter the NFL next year and most likely could have been had with your second round pick(or later). it very well may work out quite well for you, but for taking him as high as you did(1-2 years away from being drafted, add another year of possible backup duty as a rookie), you need an awful lot of things to fall into place to get you the value you desire.. considering he may not be starting in the NFL for 2-3 years..

it just seems way too high of a pick on the hopes that everything goes the way you want.. which rarely happens
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This is a good topic that tailspinned out of control.

It's a valid question to ask where guys like Peterson, Lynch, and M. Bush would be rated a year from now (based on talent alone).

Makes people think of teams that will need RBs next year as well (Green Bay, Baltimore, and NY Jets come to my mind quickly).
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I'm in this league and I don't think its all that bad of a pick so long as he is sold on the ability of Pterson ala Bush. My only question, which I possed during the draft, is that I thought he could have landed him in rounds 4 or 5. Apparently there was another person in the hunt for Peterson too and that didn't look likely. I'm all for taking the guy you want and value if you don't think he will be there at your next pick. Ballsy pick offdee, but thats what drafting is about. :thumbup: That isn't gonna stop me from trash talking you for years to come though. :D
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I too am in this league. I was targeting AD in the 3rd. I was born in Oklahoma and have several OU fans as friends. As a result, I have seen what this kid can do. I think he is the real deal, but there were too many unknowns for me to take him any earlier than the third. What team will he be drafted by? SF? That would be the worst possible situation for an RB rookie.

What if he does decide for some strange reason to come back for his Sr season?

What if he ends up behind a talented older back or a RBBC situation?

All that said he has the potential to be THE stud back in the NFL. If offdee is willing to gamble on that, more power to him. It is a ballsy pick.

 
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This is a good topic that tailspinned out of control.

It's a valid question to ask where guys like Peterson, Lynch, and M. Bush would be rated a year from now (based on talent alone).

Makes people think of teams that will need RBs next year as well (Green Bay, Baltimore, and NY Jets come to my mind quickly).
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I'm in this league and I don't think its all that bad of a pick so long as he is sold on the ability of Pterson ala Bush. My only question, which I possed during the draft, is that I thought he could have landed him in rounds 4 or 5. Apparently there was another person in the hunt for Peterson too and that didn't look likely. I'm all for taking the guy you want and value if you don't think he will be there at your next pick. Ballsy pick offdee, but thats what drafting is about. :thumbup: That isn't gonna stop me from trash talking you for years to come though. :D
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I too am in this league. I was targeting AD in the 3rd. I was born in Oklahoma and have several OU fans as friends. As a result, I have seen what this kid can do. I think he is the real deal, but there were too many unknowns for me to take him any earlier than the third. What team will he be drafted by? SF? That would be the worst possible situation for an RB rookie.

What if he does decide for some strange reason to come back for his Sr season?

What if he ends up behind a talented older back or a RBBC situation?

All that said he has the potential to be THE stud back in the NFL. If offdee is willing to gamble on that, more power to him. It is a ballsy pick.
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First, SF might not be that bad if Norv stays.The fact that the likely canidates include Houston, Baltimore, Oakland, Green Bay is a slight concern. He would not start immediately for any of those. We're not sure that any of the rookie RBs will start this year, what makes anyone think Peterson is a lock to start immediately?

 
First, SF might not be that bad if Norv stays.

The fact that the likely canidates include Houston, Baltimore, Oakland, Green Bay is a slight concern. He would not start immediately for any of those. We're not sure that any of the rookie RBs will start this year, what makes anyone think Peterson is a lock to start immediately?
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i agree, SF really wont be that bad in 2 years timeI think thats the problem with peterson at 14. at that point in the draft, i want someone who is going to produce this year and will definately be producing next year.. bush is an anomoly because despite not being the starting RB, he is going to get his in the running/passing/return game.. its very rare for rookies to start immediately when they transition to the NFL and even rarer for them to hit the ground running in top NFL form.. add the fact that its unknown if he is going to declare after this year or wait until after his senior season.. what team he eventually lands on, what kind of running game the team who drafts him has..

like i said before, it just seems like you need way too much to fall into place exactly how you need them too for this pick to justify itself

 
This is a good topic that tailspinned out of control.

It's a valid question to ask where guys like Peterson, Lynch, and M. Bush would be rated a year from now (based on talent alone).

Makes people think of teams that will need RBs next year as well (Green Bay, Baltimore, and NY Jets come to my mind quickly).
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I'm in this league and I don't think its all that bad of a pick so long as he is sold on the ability of Pterson ala Bush. My only question, which I possed during the draft, is that I thought he could have landed him in rounds 4 or 5. Apparently there was another person in the hunt for Peterson too and that didn't look likely. I'm all for taking the guy you want and value if you don't think he will be there at your next pick. Ballsy pick offdee, but thats what drafting is about. :thumbup: That isn't gonna stop me from trash talking you for years to come though. :D
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I too am in this league. I was targeting AD in the 3rd. I was born in Oklahoma and have several OU fans as friends. As a result, I have seen what this kid can do. I think he is the real deal, but there were too many unknowns for me to take him any earlier than the third. What team will he be drafted by? SF? That would be the worst possible situation for an RB rookie.

What if he does decide for some strange reason to come back for his Sr season?

What if he ends up behind a talented older back or a RBBC situation?

All that said he has the potential to be THE stud back in the NFL. If offdee is willing to gamble on that, more power to him. It is a ballsy pick.
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I am a HUGE OU fan and AD fan and while I would take him in the first in a heartbeat, I honestly don't think I could this year because of the possibility of him staying for his senior year.Knowing the past of players who have played under Stoops I do not think Peterson will come out next year unless OU wins national title and/or he wins the heisman which I don't see happening. Bomar is entering his sophmore season and last years Offensive line pretty much had to be completely rebuilt. Kudos for having the fortitude to take him, but be ready for a couple down seasons until he comes to the NFL.

 
I too am in this league. I was targeting AD in the 3rd. I was born in Oklahoma and have several OU fans as friends. As a result, I have seen what this kid can do. I think he is the real deal, but there were too many unknowns for me to take him any earlier than the third.

All that said he has the potential to be THE stud back in the NFL. If offdee is willing to gamble on that, more power to him. It is a ballsy pick.
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Well, since you have the 3.09 and my next pick after grabbing AD was the 3.12 than I guess I can say I'm glad I picked him where I did....and I did feel that he would start to be targeted/strongly considered by most in the 3rd and since my 3rd was a late one I wasn't comfortable with gambling he'd drop or risking not being able to work out a trade up with anybody.Yes, I see now that I could've dropped some and gotten better value out of the pick and I'm a little upset with myself for not taking advantage of that, but at the time I had no idea if others felt as strongly as I do about AD so I just went for it to guarantee me.

Your last sentence is really important in my thinking as well.....he has the potential to be the best back in the NFL, and that word "potential" will always hold value with Dynasty goers whether he's in the NFL or college. Having him on my roster is like holding the #1 Dynasty Rookie pick at all times and we all know how much value that holds once the dust all settles.

 
This is a good topic that tailspinned out of control.

It's a valid question to ask where guys like Peterson, Lynch, and M. Bush would be rated a year from now (based on talent alone).

Makes people think of teams that will need RBs next year as well (Green Bay, Baltimore, and NY Jets come to my mind quickly).
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The post does nt say next year, the posts is asking where would we rank him now if he was in the NFL.
 
This is a good topic that tailspinned out of control.

It's a valid question to ask where guys like Peterson, Lynch, and M. Bush would be rated a year from now (based on talent alone).

Makes people think of teams that will need RBs next year as well (Green Bay, Baltimore, and NY Jets come to my mind quickly).
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The post does nt say next year, the posts is asking where would we rank him now if he was in the NFL.
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no it doesn't. it asked for dynasty purposes, where you would rank peterson in comparison to the current NFL running backs. (as in once peterson gets into the NFL, where will he rank with the current top dynasty prospects)asking where we'd rank him if he was in the NFL now is a pointless question

 
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I'm also in this 14 team league.

I drafted Reggie Bush at 1.10, and noticed

McGahee was still on the board when OffDee's pick came up

at 2.03. I made a bold offer to OffDee to move up 2 spots to grab McGahee.

My 2.05 and 3.10 for Terminator's 2.03 and 5.12

The drafting gods must have been smiling down on me

because he rejected the offer and took Peterson.

The next pick was McGahee. We worked a deal for me to

move down 7 spots into the 6th round, to move up 1 spot to get McGahee.

The draft calculator had me losing slightly on this trade but for me

McGahee was the back I wanted along side of Reggie Bush,

so the price was well worth it.

My 2.05 and 5.10 for His 2.04 (McGahee and 6.04)

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Bottom line is that Peterson may not have been around

when 3.12 rolled around. So OffDee got his man.

I tend to agree with Jurb, that Peterson in the 4th or 5th

would have been the projected area for Peterson to be drafted.

Taken into consideration the time factor for him to be an NFL stud, and all

the things that could go wrong in between.

I don't fault OffDee for taking Peterson with the 17th pick

in our dynasty draft. After all, I took unproven NFL talent

at #10 (Reggie Bush). :hophead:

 
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I'm also in this 14 team league.

I drafted Reggie Bush at 1.10, and noticed

McGahee was still on the board when OffDee's pick came up

at 2.03. I made a bold offer to OffDee to move up 2 spots to grab McGahee.

My 2.05 and 3.10 for Terminator's 2.03 and 5.12

The drafting gods must have been smiling down on me

because he rejected the offer and took Peterson.

The next pick was McGahee. We worked a deal for me to

move down 7 spots into the 6th round, to move up 1 spot to get McGahee.

The draft calculator had me losing slightly on this trade but for me

McGahee was the back I wanted along side of Reggie Bush,

so the price was well worth it.

My 2.05 and 5.10 for His 2.04 (McGahee and 6.04)

--------------------------------------------------------------------------

Bottom line is that Peterson may not have been around

when 3.12 rolled around. So OffDee got his man.

I tend to agree with Jurb, that Peterson in the 4th or 5th

would have been the projected area for Peterson to be drafted.

Taken into consideration the time factor for him to be an NFL stud, and all

the things that could go wrong in between.

I don't fault OffDee for taking Peterson with the 17th pick

in our dynasty draft. After all, I took unproven NFL talent

at #10 (Reggie Bush). :hophead:
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Yep, this is what I'm kicking myself about now...not about the pick itself, but about not maximizing the value of it. At the time I saw you had Bush and thought you were targetting AD as well, since you obviously don't mind taking the risk on an unproven elite talent. I wasn't about to let someone else possibly have the backfield of Bush and Peterson...if I would've made the trade and you snagged up AD I would've been beating myself up about it for years, so in the end figured I'd save myself and just pull the trigger and not take the risk. I now know that was the incorrect move, but hindsight is always 20/20.

Worked out good for you though so props to you for that.

 
Somehow, I'm just not impreesed with him....is he supposed to be very good?
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:rolleyes: I sure hope you are :fishing:
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I looked at his game highlights and I see a couple of bad tackles here and there, some wide open hole here and there. Looks to me like he needs a). a good O-line, b). play against a bad tackling team to succeed in the NFL. Next year, he may prove me otherwise, but right now, I'm just not impressed. Later.
 
Somehow, I'm just not impreesed with him....is he supposed to be very good?
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:rolleyes: I sure hope you are :fishing:
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I looked at his game highlights and I see a couple of bad tackles here and there, some wide open hole here and there. Looks to me like he needs a). a good O-line, b). play against a bad tackling team to succeed in the NFL. Next year, he may prove me otherwise, but right now, I'm just not impressed. Later.
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If you're saying you don't see where he's this hyped, :thumbup: If you're saying he's not a good RB, :thumbdown:

He's dam good. Not top 14 pick worthy at this point, but dam good.

 
I love the pick offdee.

Barring a major injury, which could happen just as easily to a guy already in the NFL, Peterson will be as hyped or almost as hyped as Reggie Bush was this offseason. He will be the consensus #1 rookie pick next year.

Peterson isn't just a good talent, he's an exceptional one. This past year he was banged up so many people have forgotten just how dominant he was as a true freshman.

 
With AD declaring for the Draft.......bumping this for discussion now 6 months after this thread was originally started and a few of the "unknowns" at that time starting to come into focus.

 
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