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good question - the Jets defense looks vulnerable, so if the Pats get up early, Sanchez will have to make some plays - my guess is that he does make a few here and there against the Pats leaky defense . . .

Pats still win . . .

 
Great thread topic. I think the Pats are going to roll the Jets in a demoralizing beatdown. FBG's agrees and my super secret FF scout is on board with the Pats D. Very confident play despite their poor defensive numbers all season. Call it a very strong hunch. :football:

 
I think a good play this week, Haynesworth should be a go with Wilfork, Carter and Ellis.... sounds good at least. I'd say a couple pics, 3-5 sacks.

 
pats defense sucks. mangold coming back. youd be really stupid to plat ne defense this week. 3-5 sacks ? :lmao:

 
Yeah, FBG has them ranked really high. That's why I started the discussion. Haven't really shown up all year but the Jets looked so, so bad the last two weeks.

 
The NYJ-NEP matchup is more than a football game. Rex has made it a personal grudge match since he started coaching the Jets, and has instilled that in his players. When it doesn't work, you see talent rising to the top, like the beat down last year in Foxboro. When it does, you see the Jets 2010 playoff win

after the Jets' debacle last weekend, I think this game will look more like the latter than the former. play NEP def at your own risk

PS--Ground and Pound is on ice until week 6

 
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The Pats have the worst defense in the league. The question is, can one of the worst offenses in the league take advantage? Historically, it seems like when bad offense meets bad defense, the bad offense is the one that comes out on top. You never know with Sanchez though.

On the reverse side, the Pats have the best offense in the league vs one of the best defenses in the league. The Jets usually come to play vs the Pats, and Rex usually has the scheme to beat them. Wouldn't really be surprised at any type of outcome.

 
The Pats have the worst defense in the league. The question is, can one of the worst offenses in the league take advantage? Historically, it seems like when bad offense meets bad defense, the bad offense is the one that comes out on top. You never know with Sanchez though.On the reverse side, the Pats have the best offense in the league vs one of the best defenses in the league. The Jets usually come to play vs the Pats, and Rex usually has the scheme to beat them. Wouldn't really be surprised at any type of outcome.
Jets are not one of the worst offenses in the league. They happened to get pummeled and embarrassed on national TV by a very good defense.
 
3 words: Joe Mc Knight

His time has come. Next week when everyone runs to read the MOP-Man's thread about RBs to exploit/avoid, you're gonna see alot of Joe McKnight talk.

S.W.

 
'shadyridr said:
pats defense sucks. mangold coming back. youd be really stupid to plat ne defense this week. 3-5 sacks ? :lmao:
We'll see, when Haynesworth was in there they had 4 sacks v Henne, so it could happen. The Pats also have the #1 red zone D in the league, believe it or not. Wilfork with a couple more pics too, :excited:
 
'shadyridr said:
pats defense sucks. mangold coming back. youd be really stupid to plat ne defense this week. 3-5 sacks ? :lmao:
We'll see, when Haynesworth was in there they had 4 sacks v Henne, so it could happen. The Pats also have the #1 red zone D in the league, believe it or not. Wilfork with a couple more pics too, :excited:
Pretty sure Henne didn't have Joe "sugar legs" McKnight on his team. If Wilforky gets a pic this week I will get "AngryPatriot" tattooed on my inner thigh. My left inner thigh.S.W.
 
Starting with confidence. League doesnt count yards for defense only points allowed expecting the score to be something along the lines of 50-3 Pats.

 
The Pats have the worst defense in the league. The question is, can one of the worst offenses in the league take advantage? Historically, it seems like when bad offense meets bad defense, the bad offense is the one that comes out on top. You never know with Sanchez though.On the reverse side, the Pats have the best offense in the league vs one of the best defenses in the league. The Jets usually come to play vs the Pats, and Rex usually has the scheme to beat them. Wouldn't really be surprised at any type of outcome.
Jets are not one of the worst offenses in the league. They happened to get pummeled and embarrassed on national TV by a very good defense.
That's what happens to teams with bad offenses.
 
The Pats have the worst defense in the league. The question is, can one of the worst offenses in the league take advantage? Historically, it seems like when bad offense meets bad defense, the bad offense is the one that comes out on top. You never know with Sanchez though.On the reverse side, the Pats have the best offense in the league vs one of the best defenses in the league. The Jets usually come to play vs the Pats, and Rex usually has the scheme to beat them. Wouldn't really be surprised at any type of outcome.
Jets are not one of the worst offenses in the league. They happened to get pummeled and embarrassed on national TV by a very good defense.
They have one of the worst red zone offenses in the league. Yards dont mean a thing if you turn the ball over or settle for a FG every trip down the field. Opposite side of the ball, lets see them stop the best offense/redzone offense in the league.
 
They are a bad defense playing against one of the worst QBs in the NFL who is going to be forced to pass a lot. I think Sanchez sucks worse than the Pats D. I expect two interceptions. Should be a quality defensive start. I picked them up in at least one league asap this week.

 
The Pats have the worst defense in the league. The question is, can one of the worst offenses in the league take advantage? Historically, it seems like when bad offense meets bad defense, the bad offense is the one that comes out on top. You never know with Sanchez though.On the reverse side, the Pats have the best offense in the league vs one of the best defenses in the league. The Jets usually come to play vs the Pats, and Rex usually has the scheme to beat them. Wouldn't really be surprised at any type of outcome.
Jets are not one of the worst offenses in the league. They happened to get pummeled and embarrassed on national TV by a very good defense.
Name all the offenses you think are worse. It should be a short list.Jets can't run the ball, and Sanchez isn't allowed to throw the ball over 20 yards. There's no way the Jets are going to hang with the Pats. This one really shouldn't be close at all.
 
The Pats have the worst defense in the league. The question is, can one of the worst offenses in the league take advantage? Historically, it seems like when bad offense meets bad defense, the bad offense is the one that comes out on top. You never know with Sanchez though.On the reverse side, the Pats have the best offense in the league vs one of the best defenses in the league. The Jets usually come to play vs the Pats, and Rex usually has the scheme to beat them. Wouldn't really be surprised at any type of outcome.
Jets are not one of the worst offenses in the league. They happened to get pummeled and embarrassed on national TV by a very good defense.
Name all the offenses you think are worse. It should be a short list.Jets can't run the ball, and Sanchez isn't allowed to throw the ball over 20 yards. There's no way the Jets are going to hang with the Pats. This one really shouldn't be close at all.
fins, bengals, browns, colts, jags, chiefs, vikings, bucs, 49ers, rams, seahawks
 
The Pats have the worst defense in the league. The question is, can one of the worst offenses in the league take advantage? Historically, it seems like when bad offense meets bad defense, the bad offense is the one that comes out on top. You never know with Sanchez though.On the reverse side, the Pats have the best offense in the league vs one of the best defenses in the league. The Jets usually come to play vs the Pats, and Rex usually has the scheme to beat them. Wouldn't really be surprised at any type of outcome.
Jets are not one of the worst offenses in the league. They happened to get pummeled and embarrassed on national TV by a very good defense.
Name all the offenses you think are worse. It should be a short list.Jets can't run the ball, and Sanchez isn't allowed to throw the ball over 20 yards. There's no way the Jets are going to hang with the Pats. This one really shouldn't be close at all.
fins, bengals, browns, colts, jags, chiefs, vikings, bucs, 49ers, rams, seahawks
I'd add the Cardinals...they are all Fitz & an undependable Beanie Wells
 
The Pats have the worst defense in the league. The question is, can one of the worst offenses in the league take advantage? Historically, it seems like when bad offense meets bad defense, the bad offense is the one that comes out on top. You never know with Sanchez though.On the reverse side, the Pats have the best offense in the league vs one of the best defenses in the league. The Jets usually come to play vs the Pats, and Rex usually has the scheme to beat them. Wouldn't really be surprised at any type of outcome.
Jets are not one of the worst offenses in the league. They happened to get pummeled and embarrassed on national TV by a very good defense.
They have one of the worst red zone offenses in the league. Yards dont mean a thing if you turn the ball over or settle for a FG every trip down the field. Opposite side of the ball, lets see them stop the best offense/redzone offense in the league.
11th in ppg and 25th in ypg. seem to be the exact opposite of what youre saying
 
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bottom according to FooutballOutsiders.com28 Colts29 Jets30 Rams31 Chiefs32 Jaguars
and this is due to one horrendous game. they scored 20+ pts the previous three games and are 11th in the league in ppg.
ppg is a flawed stat when talking about offensive proficiency - for example, didnt they score a couple of special team TDs last week??the footballoutsiders stats focus on a per play basis . . .
 
The Pats have the worst defense in the league. The question is, can one of the worst offenses in the league take advantage? Historically, it seems like when bad offense meets bad defense, the bad offense is the one that comes out on top. You never know with Sanchez though.On the reverse side, the Pats have the best offense in league vs one of the best defenses in the league. The Jets usually come to play vs the Pats, and Rex usually has the scheme to beat them. Wouldn't really be surprised at any type of outcome.
The Jets don't have anywhere near one of the best defenses this year
 
bottom according to FooutballOutsiders.com28 Colts29 Jets30 Rams31 Chiefs32 Jaguars
and this is due to one horrendous game. they scored 20+ pts the previous three games and are 11th in the league in ppg.
And they had one good game against the Jags. It all evens out. T-5 in INTs thrown.5th in fumbles.29th in % of plays that result in a TD or 1st down.21st in sacks allowed per pass attempt.19th in offensive TDs scored.20th in 3rd down conversions.23rd in time of possession.10th in red zone offense though, so if they can actually manage to get there they'll be okay. The problem is, they're 30th in red zone scoring attempts.
 
The Pats have the worst defense in the league. The question is, can one of the worst offenses in the league take advantage? Historically, it seems like when bad offense meets bad defense, the bad offense is the one that comes out on top. You never know with Sanchez though.On the reverse side, the Pats have the best offense in league vs one of the best defenses in the league. The Jets usually come to play vs the Pats, and Rex usually has the scheme to beat them. Wouldn't really be surprised at any type of outcome.
The Jets don't have anywhere near one of the best defenses this year
T-1st in 3rd down conversionsT-5th in INTsT-10th in forced fumbles8th in TDs allowed7th in % of plays that result in a TD or 1st downTheir main weakness is 24th in red zone defense, which could end up being a huge liability considering the Pats are #1 on offense.
 
Football Outsiders has the NYJ ranked #2 on defense as well.

Advanced NFL Stats has the NYJ 29th on offense and 2nd on defense.

Exactly what I said earlier.

 
Jets C Nick Mangold (ankle) says he's "ready to go" for Week 5 against the Patriots. Analysis: "Chomping at the bit to get back," Mangold said. "I'm ready to go." Mangold is officially questionable, but HC Rex Ryan has made clear he expects him to play. Mangold's return cannot come soon enough for a Jets offense that could neither run nor pass in a disastrous effort against the Ravens last weekend.
I wouldn't get too excited
 
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Belliy-chicks schemes will have sanchez swimming in circles. There will be pressure. I expect a big day from the pats. was toying with starting them over the saints but unsure.

 
'shadyridr said:
pats defense sucks. mangold coming back. youd be really stupid to plat ne defense this week. 3-5 sacks ? :lmao:
depends on league format. If youget heavily penalized for pts/yards maybe not. But in a league that most points come from sacks and turnovers etc they are a great start. The jets Oline sucks (it just happens to suck a little less with mangold, who is still way gimpy- was limited in practice for most of the week. Being not 100% when you are trying to block woolfork doesn't sound like fun) and Belly-chick is about 100x smarter than Sanchez. Count on at least 2 ints 2 sacks due to improper reading of the defense.
 
It seems like the Pats have it together (somewhat) and the Jets are still getting their 2011 shoes on. Game two will probably be a better battle.

It might be a good time to roll with the Pats D.

There's usually plenty of stats for FF Ds in these rivalry type games.

 
It seems like the Pats have it together (somewhat) and the Jets are still getting their 2011 shoes on. Game two will probably be a better battle. It might be a good time to roll with the Pats D. There's usually plenty of stats for FF Ds in these rivalry type games.
On board the Pats D in 2 of 3 leagues. :thumbup:
 
bottom according to FooutballOutsiders.com28 Colts29 Jets30 Rams31 Chiefs32 Jaguars
and this is due to one horrendous game. they scored 20+ pts the previous three games and are 11th in the league in ppg.
Good job scoring less points than the Miami Dolphins did.
:lmao: congrats on the 3 sacks, 0 turnovers, and 21 pts allowed! hell of a start!
What's that have to do with anything I said? :confused:
 
The Pats have the worst defense in the league. The question is, can one of the worst offenses in the league take advantage? Historically, it seems like when bad offense meets bad defense, the bad offense is the one that comes out on top. You never know with Sanchez though.On the reverse side, the Pats have the best offense in league vs one of the best defenses in the league. The Jets usually come to play vs the Pats, and Rex usually has the scheme to beat them. Wouldn't really be surprised at any type of outcome.
The Jets don't have anywhere near one of the best defenses this year
Sacked Brady 4 times, forced an INT, held the Pats to their lowest total and that included a garbage time FG and holding the Pats to a FG after a punt return to the 25.Let me know when you want to admit you were wrong.
 
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The Pats have the worst defense in the league. The question is, can one of the worst offenses in the league take advantage? Historically, it seems like when bad offense meets bad defense, the bad offense is the one that comes out on top. You never know with Sanchez though.On the reverse side, the Pats have the best offense in league vs one of the best defenses in the league. The Jets usually come to play vs the Pats, and Rex usually has the scheme to beat them. Wouldn't really be surprised at any type of outcome.
The Jets don't have anywhere near one of the best defenses this year
Sacked Brady 4 times, forced an INT, held the Pats to their lowest total and that included a garbage time FG and holding the Pats to a FG after a punt return to the 25.Let me know when you want to admit you were wrong.
But they also got corn-holed by BJGE. Just sayin'.... I have no real dog in this disagreement
 
The Pats have the worst defense in the league. The question is, can one of the worst offenses in the league take advantage? Historically, it seems like when bad offense meets bad defense, the bad offense is the one that comes out on top. You never know with Sanchez though.On the reverse side, the Pats have the best offense in league vs one of the best defenses in the league. The Jets usually come to play vs the Pats, and Rex usually has the scheme to beat them. Wouldn't really be surprised at any type of outcome.
The Jets don't have anywhere near one of the best defenses this year
Sacked Brady 4 times, forced an INT, held the Pats to their lowest total and that included a garbage time FG and holding the Pats to a FG after a punt return to the 25.Let me know when you want to admit you were wrong.
But they also got corn-holed by BJGE. Just sayin'.... I have no real dog in this disagreement
Should've gone for the onsides kick like I said in the game thread. :shrug:
 
bottom according to FooutballOutsiders.com28 Colts29 Jets30 Rams31 Chiefs32 Jaguars
and this is due to one horrendous game. they scored 20+ pts the previous three games and are 11th in the league in ppg.
Good job scoring less points than the Miami Dolphins did.
:lmao: congrats on the 3 sacks, 0 turnovers, and 21 pts allowed! hell of a start!
What's that have to do with anything I said? :confused:
i said the pats would be a horrible play and they were
 
The Pats have the worst defense in the league. The question is, can one of the worst offenses in the league take advantage? Historically, it seems like when bad offense meets bad defense, the bad offense is the one that comes out on top. You never know with Sanchez though.On the reverse side, the Pats have the best offense in league vs one of the best defenses in the league. The Jets usually come to play vs the Pats, and Rex usually has the scheme to beat them. Wouldn't really be surprised at any type of outcome.
The Jets don't have anywhere near one of the best defenses this year
Sacked Brady 4 times, forced an INT, held the Pats to their lowest total and that included a garbage time FG and holding the Pats to a FG after a punt return to the 25.Let me know when you want to admit you were wrong.
"Forced an INT"?:lmao:And that wasn't a "garbage time" FG - It put them up two scores to ice the game. Pats ended up with over 6 yards per play. What game were you watching?
 
bottom according to FooutballOutsiders.com28 Colts29 Jets30 Rams31 Chiefs32 Jaguars
and this is due to one horrendous game. they scored 20+ pts the previous three games and are 11th in the league in ppg.
Good job scoring less points than the Miami Dolphins did.
:lmao: congrats on the 3 sacks, 0 turnovers, and 21 pts allowed! hell of a start!
What's that have to do with anything I said? :confused:
i said the pats would be a horrible play and they were
What's that have to do with anything I said?
 

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