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gibfunk

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I drew this spot in my most competitive league, and I've been wavering about what I should do with my first 3 picks (we also have a third round reversal). In past years my logical choice would probably be RB/WR/RB or RB/RB/WR, but this strategy has plagued me with sub-par WR numbers as well as a couple underachieving RB's these past two years. I've been giving considerable thought about going top-tier WR followed by either a servicible #1 RB or another #1 WR in the first two rounds. If I do go WR/WR, the third rounder has to be the best remaining RB available, (which really concerns me considering the man-crush love my comrades have for RB's).

Any thoughts or comments on this?

 
I also have the 10th pick in a 12 team redraft. It is PPR, all TDs 6. I dont mind having Gore,LT,or Slaton fall to me. I am really thinking WR-WR. We start 3 and they dry up quick. Rather have 2 stud WR than reach for a RB. Then maybe a RB and RB in 3/4 rounds. Is it possible to have tis after the 1st 4 rounds?

Rd:

1. Andre Johnson

2. S.Smith

3.Addai

4.P.Thomas

Is it a reach that Addai makes it to RD 3?

 
I'd probably go RB/WR or RB/RB. There are plenty of serviceable WRs (guys like Hines Ward) available in round 5 or sometimes later who will still get you 1,000 yards and 6+ TDs. RBs are still the key to fantasy FB I believe because plenty of stud WRs pop up each year that you can get from the WW. If you're short on good RBs after the draft you normally stay short on good RBs the rest of the year.

JMO.

 
wolfeman said:
I also have the 10th pick in a 12 team redraft. It is PPR, all TDs 6. I dont mind having Gore,LT,or Slaton fall to me. I am really thinking WR-WR. We start 3 and they dry up quick. Rather have 2 stud WR than reach for a RB. Then maybe a RB and RB in 3/4 rounds. Is it possible to have tis after the 1st 4 rounds?Rd:1. Andre Johnson2. S.Smith3.Addai4.P.ThomasIs it a reach that Addai makes it to RD 3?
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Top 3 picks as injury risks is a recipe for frustration. Plus Pierre is pretty unproven. I bet if you go Johnson and Slaton first and second you have a Roddy White waiting for you on the way back.
 
Team ROFLCOPTERS said:
wolfeman said:
I also have the 10th pick in a 12 team redraft. It is PPR, all TDs 6. I dont mind having Gore,LT,or Slaton fall to me. I am really thinking WR-WR. We start 3 and they dry up quick. Rather have 2 stud WR than reach for a RB. Then maybe a RB and RB in 3/4 rounds. Is it possible to have tis after the 1st 4 rounds?Rd:1. Andre Johnson2. S.Smith3.Addai4.P.ThomasIs it a reach that Addai makes it to RD 3?
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Top 3 picks as injury risks is a recipe for frustration. Plus Pierre is pretty unproven. I bet if you go Johnson and Slaton first and second you have a Roddy White waiting for you on the way back.
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Part of my frustration on this issue is that for the past few years, the top 10 picks (minus Brady at 9 last year) have been RB's. I think I would rather have Fitz and Moss and deal with a P. Thomas and mabye Addai in 3/4 (my league is PPR as well) rather than get a borderline #1 RB with less value than Fitz or Moss in 1/2.
 
Actually, I take back my previous strategy of RB/WR or RB/RB. Go Moss round 1 and Brady on the wrap around. Any team that has the Moss-Brady combo is a team I do NOT want to play.

Fill out your RBs and WRs thereafter. If those two are combining for 50+ points each week (on average) your team is golden.

 
JMJ said:
Actually, I take back my previous strategy of RB/WR or RB/RB. Go Moss round 1 and Brady on the wrap around. Any team that has the Moss-Brady combo is a team I do NOT want to play.Fill out your RBs and WRs thereafter. If those two are combining for 50+ points each week (on average) your team is golden.
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Don't think I'm going that route, a recovering QB (Even though it is Brady, C. Palmer was pretty good too before his knee went out), and an aging but effective Moss is too much of a limb I don't want to be on if it breaks. WR/WR and then RB/RB or RB/QB is quite appealing considering the Matt Ryan's and Aaron Rodgers may still be available.
 
Team ROFLCOPTERS said:
wolfeman said:
I also have the 10th pick in a 12 team redraft. It is PPR, all TDs 6. I dont mind having Gore,LT,or Slaton fall to me. I am really thinking WR-WR. We start 3 and they dry up quick. Rather have 2 stud WR than reach for a RB. Then maybe a RB and RB in 3/4 rounds. Is it possible to have tis after the 1st 4 rounds?Rd:1. Andre Johnson2. S.Smith3.Addai4.P.ThomasIs it a reach that Addai makes it to RD 3?
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Top 3 picks as injury risks is a recipe for frustration. Plus Pierre is pretty unproven. I bet if you go Johnson and Slaton first and second you have a Roddy White waiting for you on the way back.
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I actually would not be opposed to this strategy at all but considering R. White was a main reason for the success of our last years champ, I'm pretty confident he will be gone by pick #27. I'm sure another decent WR would also still be there, but then I'm following the formula of my past sub-par WR numbers.
 
wolfeman said:
I am not sure WR-WR. WR in in 1st. But not sure in2nd. Maybe QB....good thing my draft is a month away.
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WR/QB in the first two isn't a bad idea considering all td's are 6 pts, but then again it goes against my FF strategy of picking up a QB in 5/6 or later. Plus I'm not sold on filling out my WR or RB starters in rounds 5/6 or later based on past history of my league gobbling up all the talent in the first 3 rounds.
 
JMJ said:
I'd probably go RB/WR or RB/RB. There are plenty of serviceable WRs (guys like Hines Ward) available in round 5 or sometimes later who will still get you 1,000 yards and 6+ TDs. RBs are still the key to fantasy FB I believe because plenty of stud WRs pop up each year that you can get from the WW. If you're short on good RBs after the draft you normally stay short on good RBs the rest of the year.JMO.
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I think it all depends on your league scoring and how well you know the other owners draft tendencies. If you think a RB like Gore or Slaton will be there for you in the second round then I would draft one of the big four WR's this year. If you don't think you'll get a nice RB in the 2nd, then draft your RB in the 1st round and you can still get a stud WR in the second, but you just wont get your pick of the litter.
 
at 6 pts for passing TDs, obviously brady+brees

this will force a run on QBs so better talent will fall to your later picks

then you trade one of them to fill in the missing piece(s) of your team

::championship::

or maybe just stick with WR-WR

 
I like WR- WR... the volatility of the RB position is much higher than WR, and usually more injuries, and more chances for young guys to pop up. Last year guys like Slaton, Forte, Johnson, and even Turner slid into the 3rd and 4th round. Not many WRs that deep, that put up great numbers. I think guys to target in the 3rd would possibly be Bush, Moreno, Ward, P Thomas, DMC and Grant. I'd feel a lot more comfortable with Moss/S Smith anchoring my offense and two of those RBs, instead of lets say Slaton/Gore + two of Welker/Marshall/TO/BEdwards/Ocho..etc. Even if your RBs aren't great, WW RBs are easier to come by than WW WRs by a large margin... imo. So unless a top 5 RB falls to 10, it should be WR/WR.

I agree that going QB early will really hamper the rest of your starting line up, at either the WR or RB spot... I rather have a solid core of RBs/WRs... and have McNabb/Romo/Ryan/Palmer... or wait even longer and get Garrard/Hasselbeck.

 
gibfunk said:
Team ROFLCOPTERS said:
wolfeman said:
I also have the 10th pick in a 12 team redraft. It is PPR, all TDs 6. I dont mind having Gore,LT,or Slaton fall to me. I am really thinking WR-WR. We start 3 and they dry up quick. Rather have 2 stud WR than reach for a RB. Then maybe a RB and RB in 3/4 rounds. Is it possible to have tis after the 1st 4 rounds?

Rd:

1. Andre Johnson

2. S.Smith

3.Addai

4.P.Thomas

Is it a reach that Addai makes it to RD 3?
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Top 3 picks as injury risks is a recipe for frustration. Plus Pierre is pretty unproven. I bet if you go Johnson and Slaton first and second you have a Roddy White waiting for you on the way back.
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I actually would not be opposed to this strategy at all but considering R. White was a main reason for the success of our last years champ, I'm pretty confident he will be gone by pick #27. I'm sure another decent WR would also still be there, but then I'm following the formula of my past sub-par WR numbers.
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<_<
 
My suggestion comes from your OP. If your leaguemates have crushes on RB's, then you can use your league's past drafts to have a rough idea of how many RB's will be gone by your 3rd round selection. You can come up with a group of guys who should be available at that time using ADP or your projections and decide if you can live with one of those guys as your RB1.

Not only is it important to know your league, but just as important is to know your strengths and weaknesses. I am pretty good at identifying breakout RB's and QB's, however with WR's I really struggle. So, if I have a chance to take a proven WR or two or three I go for it.

 
wolfeman said:
Now thinking...WR-WR-QB-RB-RBRBs in 4th and 5th
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My plan from the back end of a draft also.Of course I like to send a message to all the owners after I grab my 2nd WR, reminding them that this is a PPR league and most RBs are in RBBC now. This does seem to guide the other owners into picking more WRs in the following rounds, and let more RBs fall to me later.Von
 
gibfunk said:
I drew this spot in my most competitive league, and I've been wavering about what I should do with my first 3 picks (we also have a third round reversal). In past years my logical choice would probably be RB/WR/RB or RB/RB/WR, but this strategy has plagued me with sub-par WR numbers as well as a couple underachieving RB's these past two years. I've been giving considerable thought about going top-tier WR followed by either a servicible #1 RB or another #1 WR in the first two rounds. If I do go WR/WR, the third rounder has to be the best remaining RB available, (which really concerns me considering the man-crush love my comrades have for RB's). Any thoughts or comments on this?
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you might've answered your own question if your league mates are in love with RB's, then you'll need to secure one ( or two) very early on..at #10 in a 12-team league,you're looking at the possibility of drafting perhaps the 2nd/3rd best WR, but only the 5th best RB, let's say..most people shy away from selecting a WR in the first round..so,out of ten picks, you're likely to see only Fitzand CJ taken from the WR rankings, while ADP, MJD, Forte, SJax, Slaton, Turner plus the odd QB or two complete the round..usually a first round would look something lik this:1. adp2. mjd3. Forte4. Turner5. Brady6. Fitz7. Sjax8.Slaton9. Tomlinsonso as you can see, only Fitz is gone - leaving a treasury chest of top notch WR's to select from...but there is a bigger drop-off from the top 3 WR's to the rest of the pack, than there is from the top RB's to the rest of the pack..taking out the big 3 of Forte,MJD,ADP, the next 20+ RB's all have a 'yeah,but' attached to their names, either do to injury histories, or age or both...for the most part, RB #4 will be close in total fantasy pts to the #20 RB...not true when you consider WR's...I think guys like Fitz and CJ deserve special consideration over all other remaining RB's at #10..
 
Grahamburn said:
gibfunk said:
Team ROFLCOPTERS said:
wolfeman said:
I also have the 10th pick in a 12 team redraft. It is PPR, all TDs 6. I dont mind having Gore,LT,or Slaton fall to me. I am really thinking WR-WR. We start 3 and they dry up quick. Rather have 2 stud WR than reach for a RB. Then maybe a RB and RB in 3/4 rounds. Is it possible to have tis after the 1st 4 rounds?

Rd:

1. Andre Johnson

2. S.Smith

3.Addai

4.P.Thomas

Is it a reach that Addai makes it to RD 3?
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Top 3 picks as injury risks is a recipe for frustration. Plus Pierre is pretty unproven. I bet if you go Johnson and Slaton first and second you have a Roddy White waiting for you on the way back.
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I actually would not be opposed to this strategy at all but considering R. White was a main reason for the success of our last years champ, I'm pretty confident he will be gone by pick #27. I'm sure another decent WR would also still be there, but then I'm following the formula of my past sub-par WR numbers.
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:confused:
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^^^ (Last year's champ,.............queer)
 
wolfeman said:
take the best talent available...
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That is such a loaded statement, how do you quantify the best talent left when presumably the "best" 9 players have been selected? What's the difference between Fitz/C. Johnson and Slaton/Gore? Tough to answer even tougher to get correct.
 
Just did a mock from the 10 spot, 12 teams.

Was able to land

1st Andre Johnson

2nd Slaton

3rd Welker

4th Derrick Ward

5th Gates

6th Matt Ryan

7th Cotchery

8th Coles

 
Here is what I got so far PPR draftmaster 1/2/3/1 with 1 flex

I usually go WR heavy but went different in this one. Still like the team...we shall see

1.10 10. Tomlinson, LaDainian SDC RB Mon Jul 27 10:35:04 a.m. ET 2009 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

2.03 15. Slaton, Steve HOU RB Mon Jul 27 12:29:34 p.m. ET 2009 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

3.10 34. Witten, Jason DAL TE Mon Jul 27 7:06:31 p.m. ET 2009

4.03 39. McFadden, Darren OAK RB Mon Jul 27 9:09:40 p.m. ET 2009

5.10 58. Romo, Tony DAL QB Tue Jul 28 7:45:43 a.m. ET 2009 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

6.03 63. Moss, Santana WAS WR Tue Jul 28 10:39:14 a.m. ET 2009 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

7.10 82. Cotchery, Jerricho NYJ WR Tue Jul 28 3:26:07 p.m. ET 2009

8.03 87. Ward, Hines PIT WR Tue Jul 28 3:48:00 p.m. ET 2009

9.10 106. Bush, Michael OAK RB Tue Jul 28 8:06:10 p.m. ET 2009

10.03 111. Smith, Steve NYG WR Tue Jul 28 10:35:05 p.m. ET 2009 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

11.10 130. Bennett, Earl CHI WR Wed Jul 29 10:08:52 a.m. ET 2009 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

12.03 135. Campbell, Jason WAS QB Wed Jul 29 10:59:09 a.m. ET 2009 I guess? :thumbup:

 
wolfeman said:
The Real Yoda said:
Just did a mock from the 10 spot, 12 teams.Was able to land1st Andre Johnson2nd Slaton3rd Welker4th Derrick Ward5th Gates6th Matt Ryan7th Cotchery8th Coles
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Who were the WRs there for you in Rd 2?
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Only Fitz was taken before my first pick - the draft went RB heavy with AP MJD Turner CJ3 Forte Tomlinson Gore Sjax going off the board in that order.Before it came back to me Moss/Megatron were gone.
 
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:thumbup:

My league is a bit different because it is a 1-2 player keeper league. With some of the top guys being kept, I am looking to grab 2 WRs with the 10 pick.

I know that doesnt help redrafts but thought I would throw it out there

I already have Brees and Slaton as keepers. Looking to take advantage of the depth at RB a few rounds later

 
gibfunk said:
Grahamburn said:
gibfunk said:
Team ROFLCOPTERS said:
wolfeman said:
I also have the 10th pick in a 12 team redraft. It is PPR, all TDs 6. I dont mind having Gore,LT,or Slaton fall to me. I am really thinking WR-WR. We start 3 and they dry up quick. Rather have 2 stud WR than reach for a RB. Then maybe a RB and RB in 3/4 rounds. Is it possible to have tis after the 1st 4 rounds?

Rd:

1. Andre Johnson

2. S.Smith

3.Addai

4.P.Thomas

Is it a reach that Addai makes it to RD 3?
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Top 3 picks as injury risks is a recipe for frustration. Plus Pierre is pretty unproven. I bet if you go Johnson and Slaton first and second you have a Roddy White waiting for you on the way back.
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I actually would not be opposed to this strategy at all but considering R. White was a main reason for the success of our last years champ, I'm pretty confident he will be gone by pick #27. I'm sure another decent WR would also still be there, but then I'm following the formula of my past sub-par WR numbers.
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:boxing:
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^^^ (Last year's champ,.............queer)
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:rant: You seem bitter, gibfunk.Be careful with the advice you take around here. Some of these guys are :wub:

 
I live in southern NJ. I am not drinking the McNabb kool aide. Still not great WRs and I have a hunch he doesnt make it through the year...

 
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