ImTheScientist
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Sleeper RB of the year! 
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He's gonna be sleeping on the bench behind Henry, Sapp, and BellSleeper RB of the year!
Tillmanisahero
Footballguy
Well....he is second on the depth chart for now
OU#1
Footballguy
Wow didn't realize that....is it because of injuries? Or?
Chaos Commish
Footballguy
Ploys?
ImTheScientist
Footballguy
Do you really believe that? Come on now!
I'd tend to believe the Broncos web site or the Nfl web site over Rotoworld.
http://www.denverbroncos.com/page.php?id=134
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Chaos Commish
Footballguy
DWidmar
Footballguy
Yeah. Mike Bell did the same thing last year.
GridironMenace
Footballguy
He's not a sleeper anymore. Everyone knows about him now. He was only a sleeper if he was drafted before the news today broke. IMO however, Cecil Sapp is #2 in line. I have made it a point to get Sapp in every league I am in. I never liked Bell and I think the Young rumor is just a ploy for teams to prepare for 1 more player. Sapp is the guy you want to target. Of course none of them will have value as long as Henry is healthy.Sleeper RB of the year!
ImTheScientist
Footballguy
He's not a sleeper anymore. Everyone knows about him now. He was only a sleeper if he was drafted before the news today broke. IMO however, Cecil Sapp is #2 in line. I have made it a point to get Sapp in every league I am in. I never liked Bell and I think the Young rumor is just a ploy for teams to prepare for 1 more player. Sapp is the guy you want to target. Of course none of them will have value as long as Henry is healthy.Sleeper RB of the year!
and he is not healthy. How many full seasons has Henry played?? 
AngryGorilla
Footballguy
bronco homer, local radio today said (Alfred Williams, ex-bronco and local post game analyst) that Selvin Young was the #2 RB.
Sapp will be the #3 and backup FB. If Henry gets hurt, Sapp would also see time. Mike Bell wasn't mentioned.
Sapp will be the #3 and backup FB. If Henry gets hurt, Sapp would also see time. Mike Bell wasn't mentioned.
Black Label Society
Footballguy
I hate the Denver RB situation. Been this way pretty much since Davis got hurt. Minus 1 real solid season for Portis.
For those who think that a nobody can't do something great in the NFL (especially on Denver) have you forgotten Terrell Davis?
6th round pick.
Just saying...don't write anybody off because of what they did in college. WATCH them...it's all about personnel and the system.
Each guy has a best fit system.
That being said...I haven't seen one highlight of this guy...anybody got a video of his preseason runs??
For those who think that a nobody can't do something great in the NFL (especially on Denver) have you forgotten Terrell Davis?
6th round pick.
Just saying...don't write anybody off because of what they did in college. WATCH them...it's all about personnel and the system.
Each guy has a best fit system.
That being said...I haven't seen one highlight of this guy...anybody got a video of his preseason runs??
GridironMenace
Footballguy
Exactly and that is why I am avoiding Henry in every draft I am in. Plus Shanny is so wishy-washy that if Henry has fumblitis a RBBC and loss of goal line carries will be in order.The Scientist said:GridironMenace said:He's not a sleeper anymore. Everyone knows about him now. He was only a sleeper if he was drafted before the news today broke. IMO however, Cecil Sapp is #2 in line. I have made it a point to get Sapp in every league I am in. I never liked Bell and I think the Young rumor is just a ploy for teams to prepare for 1 more player. Sapp is the guy you want to target. Of course none of them will have value as long as Henry is healthy.The Scientist said:Sleeper RB of the year!
and he is not healthy. How many full seasons has Henry played??
Banger
Footballguy
go to the player profile page on NFL.com and they have video snippets from each game...
gianmarco
Footballguy
He's only had one major injury during his career that caused him to miss time back in 2004 when he broke his leg. Other than that, he's missed 1 game due to injury in 5 years when he had torn rib cartilage. Not sure why this misconception continues to be repeated. His missed time was due to either being a backup or drug suspension, not injury. He's no more injury-prone and has no more significant injury history than practically any other RB in the top 20.The Scientist said:GridironMenace said:He's not a sleeper anymore. Everyone knows about him now. He was only a sleeper if he was drafted before the news today broke. IMO however, Cecil Sapp is #2 in line. I have made it a point to get Sapp in every league I am in. I never liked Bell and I think the Young rumor is just a ploy for teams to prepare for 1 more player. Sapp is the guy you want to target. Of course none of them will have value as long as Henry is healthy.The Scientist said:Sleeper RB of the year!
and he is not healthy. How many full seasons has Henry played??
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ßlue Meanie
Footballguy
i like Young over every back in Denver other than Henry.
i'd take Young in the teens in a draft.
i'd take Young in the teens in a draft.
ImTheScientist
Footballguy
I never said time missed due to injury.....missed time is missed time. I would actually think off-field issues are much more predictable than injury. So the "misconception" was repeated due to your interpretation of the question. Missed time is missed time...I don't know how you can argue that.Anyways.......Selvin has looked great during the preseason and Henry is banged up allready. Keep Selvin on your radar.He's only had one major injury during his career that caused him to miss time back in 2004 when he broke his leg. Other than that, he's missed 1 game due to injury in 5 years when he had torn rib cartilage. Not sure why this misconception continues to be repeated. His missed time was due to either being a backup or drug suspension, not injury. He's no more injury-prone and has no more significant injury history than practically any other RB in the top 20.The Scientist said:GridironMenace said:He's not a sleeper anymore. Everyone knows about him now. He was only a sleeper if he was drafted before the news today broke. IMO however, Cecil Sapp is #2 in line. I have made it a point to get Sapp in every league I am in. I never liked Bell and I think the Young rumor is just a ploy for teams to prepare for 1 more player. Sapp is the guy you want to target. Of course none of them will have value as long as Henry is healthy.The Scientist said:Sleeper RB of the year!and he is not healthy. How many full seasons has Henry played??
Selvin Young went to University of Texas in Austin, where I live. I've seen him play many times. He's not an instinctual runner. He's got fumblitis. He gets hurt all the time. Selvin wasn't the best RB on UT's team last year, and he definitely won't be in Denver. IMO he is not going to be a starting RB in the NFL.
Wow! Lots of conclusions being made by lots of people about this situation. So far, I haven't heard/read anything from someone like say.... Mike Shanahan, that this was anything more than getting a look at everyone before final cuts. Look at the numbers from every game last night and you will see that 3's 4's 5's and guys on the bubble got all the carries. Shanahan quote from post game:
"Head Coach Mike Shanahan said the shuffling was nothing more than trying to find out where players fit best.
"It's just like we move people around on the offensive line. Guards play tackle positions. Tackles will play guards' positions," Shanahan said. "It's the same thing during the season. You get people to go down, you get the halfback at the fullback position. That happened here with a number of players. (Former Broncos running backs) Rueben Droughns and Mike Anderson both played at fullback, and this is a game where you experiment and see if guys can step up and play."
Maybe there is truth to it, but to make final conclusion that Bell and Sapp both are just going to get erased at HB based on S Young play in 2 preseason games is a bit presumptuous until the guy that counts speaks.
"Head Coach Mike Shanahan said the shuffling was nothing more than trying to find out where players fit best.
"It's just like we move people around on the offensive line. Guards play tackle positions. Tackles will play guards' positions," Shanahan said. "It's the same thing during the season. You get people to go down, you get the halfback at the fullback position. That happened here with a number of players. (Former Broncos running backs) Rueben Droughns and Mike Anderson both played at fullback, and this is a game where you experiment and see if guys can step up and play."
Maybe there is truth to it, but to make final conclusion that Bell and Sapp both are just going to get erased at HB based on S Young play in 2 preseason games is a bit presumptuous until the guy that counts speaks.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
:mustmakementalnoteandbumplater:
Billy1x
Footballguy
Is it true he's moved into the number #2 position? Saw something about it in the FBG New Blogger.He's gonna be sleeping on the bench behind Henry, Sapp, and BellThe Scientist said:Sleeper RB of the year!
Gopher State
Footballguy
Good approach play it safe, Draft all the Ruddy Johnson's of the FF world, Teams that drafted Coston, MJD, Drew B etc., last year, I sure had poor seasonsExactly and that is why I am avoiding Henry in every draft I am in. Plus Shanny is so wishy-washy that if Henry has fumblitis a RBBC and loss of goal line carries will be in order.The Scientist said:GridironMenace said:He's not a sleeper anymore. Everyone knows about him now. He was only a sleeper if he was drafted before the news today broke. IMO however, Cecil Sapp is #2 in line. I have made it a point to get Sapp in every league I am in. I never liked Bell and I think the Young rumor is just a ploy for teams to prepare for 1 more player. Sapp is the guy you want to target. Of course none of them will have value as long as Henry is healthy.The Scientist said:Sleeper RB of the year!and he is not healthy. How many full seasons has Henry played??
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Maybe, but with Denver it's not out of the realm of possibility. You might want to save those smiliesThe Scientist said:Sleeper RB of the year!
maxwell1295
Footballguy
I've been trying, but I can't think of a better sleeper at RB...The Scientist said:Sleeper RB of the year!
If I'm wrong I'll gladly eat my words, because I've heard he's a good kid. But he couldn't beat out Cedric Benson (which was understandable), then when Cedric was drafted he couldn't beat out Jamaal Charles (who was a true freshman). Last year he started over Charles as a senior, but I think this was more due to him being a senior versus him being the better player. Charles had more rushes (156 to 137), more yards (831 to 591), and better YPC (5.3 to 4.3). Selvin did have more catches (23 to 18) but fewer receiving yards.Charles is an upper level back in the Big 12, but if Selvin can't beat him out or outproduce him, how will he be able to do that against NFL talent?
JohnnyU
Footballguy
There is only one thing that I know for about 90% certainty, and that is that Denver will showcase a RB then trade him to upgrade at another position, then bring in another RB that looks just like the previous one. With that said, the best plan of action for you dynasty leaguers out there is to always take advantage of the trade value of the current starting Denver RB.Good approach play it safe, Draft all the Ruddy Johnson's of the FF world, Teams that drafted Coston, MJD, Drew B etc., last year, I sure had poor seasonsExactly and that is why I am avoiding Henry in every draft I am in. Plus Shanny is so wishy-washy that if Henry has fumblitis a RBBC and loss of goal line carries will be in order.The Scientist said:GridironMenace said:He's not a sleeper anymore. Everyone knows about him now. He was only a sleeper if he was drafted before the news today broke. IMO however, Cecil Sapp is #2 in line. I have made it a point to get Sapp in every league I am in. I never liked Bell and I think the Young rumor is just a ploy for teams to prepare for 1 more player. Sapp is the guy you want to target. Of course none of them will have value as long as Henry is healthy.The Scientist said:Sleeper RB of the year!and he is not healthy. How many full seasons has Henry played??
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falcoatl
Footballguy
Do you seriously rely more on a site like NFL.com that is updated occasionally rather than a site like Rotoworld that bases it's news off of newspaper quotes and articles from the team websites?Can we play in a league together?
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Weak
Brewzers
Footballguy
Hmmm....not quite what I remember about Selvin. He was very highly recruited out of HS. He is a good, not great runner. He can run between the tackles quite well, has decent hands and good in pass protection. Overall, he is a complete RB with good, but not great running skills. He suffered a severe broken ankle injury in the 2004 season and wasn't healthy in 2005 which is why Charles got most of the RB work in 2005. Young came back healthy in 2006 and clearly beat out Jamaal Charles for the top spot. He did not start just because he was a senior. He was a better overall RB, especially when it came to blocking for his freshman QB.
Dt's Mules
Footballguy
sorry man, but you are remembering incorrectly about charles and young...selvin only "started" out of mack brown's loyalty..and it most critical situations it was charles in there.Selvin young stats
Jamaal Charles Stats
bentley
Footballguy
This was the only reason he saw any playing time beyond giving Charles a breather. Does your league give points for good blocks?
Brewzers
Footballguy
You're right, blocking ability is overrated for FF stats.
maninthebox
Footballguy
No, but it is something that is important to Shanahan and could influence who he would like to have on the field with his second year QB.
aldelgreco
Footballguy
Exactly. I love Selvin, but he is injury prone and he puts the ball on the ground at the most horribly frustrating times. Jamaal Charles was a better back as a FR than Selvin was as a JR or SR. He is not an instinctual runner, more of a role-guy. He "started" several games last year due to Jamaal having a nagging injury that the staff was trying to keep under wraps and also because of Mack's propensity to be more "loyal" to upper-classmen. He was roomates and best friends with VY in college...so he definitely learned some leadership skills from him, but i just dont think this is anything to get excited about fantasy wise.
flufhed
Footballguy
He's only had one major injury during his career that caused him to miss time back in 2004 when he broke his leg. Other than that, he's missed 1 game due to injury in 5 years when he had torn rib cartilage. Not sure why this misconception continues to be repeated. His missed time was due to either being a backup or drug suspension, not injury. He's no more injury-prone and has no more significant injury history than practically any other RB in the top 20.He's not a sleeper anymore. Everyone knows about him now. He was only a sleeper if he was drafted before the news today broke. IMO however, Cecil Sapp is #2 in line. I have made it a point to get Sapp in every league I am in. I never liked Bell and I think the Young rumor is just a ploy for teams to prepare for 1 more player. Sapp is the guy you want to target. Of course none of them will have value as long as Henry is healthy.Sleeper RB of the year!
I don't get the "injury-prone" stuff. Other than aproaching 30, I don't see anything that makes Henry more injury prone than the next guy, esp when drafting at the end of the 1st round.I'll give you another take. Rat face and the organization have realized they paid huge money to a guy that is no better and in fact may not be as good as the running back they have on the roster in Mike Bell. So they demote Bell and possibly ship him off making a statement that Bell is not in their future.
Keys Myaths
Pokerguy
This isn't true.After the preseason, Shanny is usually done with this mess. Pretty much happens toward the end of preseason every year we get a shock, but once Shanny decides, we're good to go.
Irish
Footballguy
Henry has only played 16 games in a season once out of 6 yrs in the league due to injuries and/or suspensions.He's only had one major injury during his career that caused him to miss time back in 2004 when he broke his leg. Other than that, he's missed 1 game due to injury in 5 years when he had torn rib cartilage. Not sure why this misconception continues to be repeated. His missed time was due to either being a backup or drug suspension, not injury. He's no more injury-prone and has no more significant injury history than practically any other RB in the top 20.He's not a sleeper anymore. Everyone knows about him now. He was only a sleeper if he was drafted before the news today broke. IMO however, Cecil Sapp is #2 in line. I have made it a point to get Sapp in every league I am in. I never liked Bell and I think the Young rumor is just a ploy for teams to prepare for 1 more player. Sapp is the guy you want to target. Of course none of them will have value as long as Henry is healthy.Sleeper RB of the year!
