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Dimitri Nance - #3 RB on Green Bay (1 Viewer)
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Ketamine Dreams
Footballguy
Why? Just curious the reasoning you have for this...
nlgb1
Footballguy
because nance is a scrub, and starks is not. sorry to burst your bubble but its really that simple
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zamboni
Footballguy
I don't think we've seen anything about either guy to make that assessment - either good or bad.
nlgb1
Footballguy
must be desperate when you start looking at practice squad rbs that arent even starting for fantasy help
Football Critic
Footballguy
Actually, he could be a dynasty guy looking for a diamond in the rough.
JMJ
Footballguy
Who pissed in your cheerios this morning?
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nlgb1
Footballguy
no this is just the 3rd thread about this scrub and i find it funny that people would waste a waiver pickup on a guy that struggled to get over 4 ypc in college, has already been cut in the preseason, and got brought up off practice squad due to injury. have fun looking for another ryan grantWho pissed in your cheerios this morning?
JMJ
Footballguy
While I agree with your overall thought (ie: no need for multiple threads, don't see lots of value in Nance, etc.), I don't agree with the bolded. All owners should ALWAYS be looking for another Ryan Grant.no this is just the 3rd thread about this scrub and i find it funny that people would waste a waiver pickup on a guy that struggled to get over 4 ypc in college, has already been cut in the preseason, and got brought up off practice squad due to injury. have fun looking for another ryan grantWho pissed in your cheerios this morning?
munchkin
Footballguy
From a post draft Sporting News article:
4. Dimitri Nance, RB, Arizona State. He was a solid college player but never put up huge stats because he was not a dominant player. He lacks elite explosiveness and speed and has a history of fumbling. Still, we are confident that if given a chance he could become a solid NFL starter if he learns to hang on to the football.
Read more: http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/story/2010...s#ixzz10MZ7dZPA
He put one ball on the ground in the preseason with a couple of goal line TD's. The Falcons hated to lose him but he was behind drafted rookie Antoine Smith coming out of camp.
Probably worth a flier if there isn't much else on the WW.
4. Dimitri Nance, RB, Arizona State. He was a solid college player but never put up huge stats because he was not a dominant player. He lacks elite explosiveness and speed and has a history of fumbling. Still, we are confident that if given a chance he could become a solid NFL starter if he learns to hang on to the football.
Read more: http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/story/2010...s#ixzz10MZ7dZPA
He put one ball on the ground in the preseason with a couple of goal line TD's. The Falcons hated to lose him but he was behind drafted rookie Antoine Smith coming out of camp.
Probably worth a flier if there isn't much else on the WW.
zamboni
Footballguy
As someone mentioned, for keeper/dynasty leagues, one should always be on the lookout for potential diamonds in the rough.Is Nance going to be anything? Odds are no, but guys like Ryan Grant, Arian Foster, and Willie Parker came out of nowhere. One think that should be reiterated is that Nance was on another team's practice squad, not the Packers'. So clearly McCarthy thought enough of him to add him.
Again, that's not saying he'll be that next diamond in the rough, but it can't hurt to stash away if it costs you virtually nothing. Worst case is that you eventually drop him if he goes nowhere - no harm, no foul.
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LittlePhatty
Footballguy
No one who says this is ever truly "sorry" and it just comes off as condescending.
If you really think that way then you've probably missed out on a lot of breakout players by waiting until after they are waiver wire favorites.There is no guarantee with Nance, but you never know for sure. He could be given a shot.This is similar to the way Ryan Grant got the job.Nance caught Green Bay's eye even before Grant went down, so they see something in him worth going after.And Atlanta offered to put him on their 53-man roster just to keep him in town. Nance took the gig with the Packers because there are fewer guys ahead of him on the depth chart.There are links to all of these facts in other threads about Jackson/Kuhn/Nance. I'm just too lazy to look them up and copy them here.
Yeah, well that still doesn't make it civil for you to attempt and insult someone else. I got a tid-bit for you, the way you find gems in fantasy football is to look where no one else is looking. I believe someone named Arian Foster was just another "practice squad scrub" not too long ago. You've obviously never seen Nance, because he isn't a scrub. In fact, anybody who can be a RB on an NFL team is far from a scrub. On a last note, if you don't like the topic, why do you click on it and start reading the original post? No sense all around.no this is just the 3rd thread about this scrub and i find it funny that people would waste a waiver pickup on a guy that struggled to get over 4 ypc in college, has already been cut in the preseason, and got brought up off practice squad due to injury. have fun looking for another ryan grantWho pissed in your cheerios this morning?
JMJ
Footballguy
Not just that, Nance was dressed and on the active game day roster less than one week after being signed .... Starks (who he suggested to add instead) was not!
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OP asked if he's worth rostering in bigger leagues and never said anything about using a waiver pickup. You can trot on over to your FA pool right now and just pick him up for beans. Looks like you're in a smaller 12-man league so this really doesn't apply to you. It's the 14-18 teamers that like to look this deep.Starks himself said he doesn't expect to be back until week 7 so there's still a ways to go. Nance is interesting because at this point he's only got Jackson and Kuhn to compete with. Kinda reminds me of when I took a flier on Ryan Grant when everyone said DeShawn Wynn was the one to own.
Says something when ATL's Coach Mike Smith, himself calles Nance and asks him to stay and join the ATL 53 man roster even before Turner went down.
You're doing something right when Thompson, Dimitroff & One have an eye on you.
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Phurfur
Footballguy
Are you talking about Ryan Grant in 2007?
That Little Voice
Footballguy
Are you reading the rest of the thread where Grant was subsequently mentioned 47 times?
Jackal King
Footballguy
I picked up Nance.
One percent own him and zero percent start him on CBS. I had a spot. Curious to see how he does this week.
I watched him play at ASU. I don't see any reason why he couldn't end up being the starter in Green Bay, considering his competition, if he runs well the next few weeks.
One percent own him and zero percent start him on CBS. I had a spot. Curious to see how he does this week.
I watched him play at ASU. I don't see any reason why he couldn't end up being the starter in Green Bay, considering his competition, if he runs well the next few weeks.
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He's a better lottery ticket than quite a few handcuffs and backups, because you know Nance is going to get carries, and you know the competition in front of him is a guy who has had several chances to establish himself at this point, and always seems to fail, and a fullback. If he gets extended action in a game in the next few weeks, he could conceivably win the job outright. That's more of an indictment on Jackson, but it's well within the realm of possibility
Why would anyone be surprised if this guy played his way into some serious touches? If Starks comes back and Nance starts getting deactivated, yes, then you'd rather have Starks, but until that day comes (if ever), Nance is worth the spot at this point.
Why would anyone be surprised if this guy played his way into some serious touches? If Starks comes back and Nance starts getting deactivated, yes, then you'd rather have Starks, but until that day comes (if ever), Nance is worth the spot at this point.
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CaptainHook
Footballguy
your league has to be pretty deep to be considering that many low probability what ifs
Sam Quentin
Footballguy
The opportunity is there, I'm just completely unconviced that the talent is there.
Al Toon's Mole
Footballguy
While the practice squad RB's never seem to be worth much...
As stated, guy like Grant and Arian Foster have shown that if you are willing to take a chance, and opportunity is there for them, once in a while you just may find a true gem.
That being said, Starks is a guy mentioned, and was given a high grade before the 2009 draft but (IIRC) he elected to stay one more year because of an injury and wanted to see if he could improve hi sstock. He didn't and then was drafted by the Packers as insurance for Grant/Jackson in the event one or both of them went down.
So Nance gets his chance, while Starks is still on the PUP recovering from a hamstring issue. But for those that have not seen Starks play, the kid is a gamer...and if healthy, should produce good #'s in NFL and Fantasy Football terms.
Nance had better hope he showcases what he has early and often, because IMO when Starks gets back....he will have something to prove...and he just might open some eyes.
So though adding Starks now may not seem relevant, if you have other owners in your league who understand depth and know to look beyond active rosters, he may not be there in a few weeks. I'd say pick him up before he gets off PUP and his name is thrown around on sites, and then wait for him to produce.
ETA - I have not seen Nance play, and my opinion is based solely on what I've seen of Starks.
As stated, guy like Grant and Arian Foster have shown that if you are willing to take a chance, and opportunity is there for them, once in a while you just may find a true gem.
That being said, Starks is a guy mentioned, and was given a high grade before the 2009 draft but (IIRC) he elected to stay one more year because of an injury and wanted to see if he could improve hi sstock. He didn't and then was drafted by the Packers as insurance for Grant/Jackson in the event one or both of them went down.
So Nance gets his chance, while Starks is still on the PUP recovering from a hamstring issue. But for those that have not seen Starks play, the kid is a gamer...and if healthy, should produce good #'s in NFL and Fantasy Football terms.
Nance had better hope he showcases what he has early and often, because IMO when Starks gets back....he will have something to prove...and he just might open some eyes.
So though adding Starks now may not seem relevant, if you have other owners in your league who understand depth and know to look beyond active rosters, he may not be there in a few weeks. I'd say pick him up before he gets off PUP and his name is thrown around on sites, and then wait for him to produce.
ETA - I have not seen Nance play, and my opinion is based solely on what I've seen of Starks.
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Dr. Awesome
Footballguy
But Kuhn/Jackson both blow so he should get a chance. Unless GB trades for Lynch/Moreno/Wells/Bell/Gore/Bush/Holmes as the board has speculated.
Billy Ball Thorton
Footballguy
no this is just the 3rd thread about this scrub and i find it funny that people would waste a waiver pickup on a guy that struggled to get over 4 ypc in college, has already been cut in the preseason, and got brought up off practice squad due to injury. have fun looking for another ryan grantWho pissed in your cheerios this morning?
lol says the guy with Starks in his sig.. Im sure your not biased at all... Ryan Grat was considered a Nance once.
nlgb1
Footballguy
...biased eh? if i didnt like starks he wouldnt be on my roster. way to connect the dotsps. i really hope nance proves me wrong, because the pack needs a run game and brandon jackson isnt gonna give it to them. but based on what ive seen from nance and his past performance, the only thing hes got going for him is that hes the backup running back on a good offensive team. unless youre in a 14 team-20 player roster league, or your team really blows in a smaller league, hes not worthy of a roster spotno this is just the 3rd thread about this scrub and i find it funny that people would waste a waiver pickup on a guy that struggled to get over 4 ypc in college, has already been cut in the preseason, and got brought up off practice squad due to injury. have fun looking for another ryan grantWho pissed in your cheerios this morning?
Mr.Pack
Footballguy
What exactly have you seen of him? The 4 carries he had last Sunday? This is what you base your opinion on?...biased eh? if i didnt like starks he wouldnt be on my roster. way to connect the dotsps. i really hope nance proves me wrong, because the pack needs a run game and brandon jackson isnt gonna give it to them. but based on what ive seen from nance and his past performance, the only thing hes got going for him is that hes the backup running back on a good offensive team. unless youre in a 14 team-20 player roster league, or your team really blows in a smaller league, hes not worthy of a roster spotno this is just the 3rd thread about this scrub and i find it funny that people would waste a waiver pickup on a guy that struggled to get over 4 ypc in college, has already been cut in the preseason, and got brought up off practice squad due to injury. have fun looking for another ryan grantWho pissed in your cheerios this morning?
lol says the guy with Starks in his sig.. Im sure your not biased at all... Ryan Grat was considered a Nance once.
DropKick
Footballguy
It never costs "nothing" - there is always opportunity cost. Worse case is you miss out on the right guy.So, when there are some warts pointed out on your "long shot" frog... can't we acknowledge these points and make our own decisions... do we really have to take the thread into a tail spin?
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
sifting through the catfighting and not learning much
munchkin
Footballguy
For some, these threads aren't about passing along information but showing how smart they are or how dumb someone else is.
Jackal King
Footballguy
To recap the relevant Nance factoids contributed by others:
> One of only two Texas 5A high school players to rush for more than 3,000 yards in a single season, Cedric Benson is the other.
> College career was spectacularly average. Only started 18 games, totaled 1,934 rushing yards on 482 carries (4.0 avg.) and 19 touchdowns, and became a bigger factor in the passing game over the course of his career. He finished with 63 career receptions for 463 yards (7.3 avg.) and one touchdown receiving.
> Nance does not get drafted. Cecil Lammey had good things to say from watching Nance in advance of the Shrine Game.
> Preseason with the Falcons – 21 carries / 51 yards and 2 goal line touchdowns. One fumble.
> 6th round draft pick Starks suffers hamstring injury and goes on PUP, and will miss the first 6 weeks of the season, minimum.
> Nance surprises a bit when the Falcons name him to the practice squad.
> Grant goes on I/R on Sept 14 and the Packers offer to sign Nance that same day. In an attempt to retain Nance, Atlanta offers to add him to the 53 man roster, but Nance opts for Green Bay. The timing suggest that the Packers had interest in Nance prior to the Grant injury.
> Mike McCarthy, during his first day of practice, acknowledges that the Packers had been interested in Nance through training camp. “Very explosive, instinctive, definitely has a very strong, quick lower half. Everything we saw on film was validated. He is a young player and I think he will be a good fit for us.”
> Surprises a bit by being active for the Sep 18th game with Buffalo, and has two carries for 6 yards.
> In the same Buffalo game, B. Jax gets 11 carries for 29 yards, 1 reception on 1 target for 10 yards. Kuhn gets 9 carries for 36 yards…no receptions on 1 target.
> Mike McCarthy said the team will split the running back snaps between Brandon Jackson, John Kuhn, and Dimitri Nance because Jackson is still valuable as the third-down back and he is not sure if Jackson could take the physical toll that comes with being a featured back.
> In the two weeks since the Grant injury, Green Bay has not added any new RB’s to the roster other than Nance.
> One of only two Texas 5A high school players to rush for more than 3,000 yards in a single season, Cedric Benson is the other.
> College career was spectacularly average. Only started 18 games, totaled 1,934 rushing yards on 482 carries (4.0 avg.) and 19 touchdowns, and became a bigger factor in the passing game over the course of his career. He finished with 63 career receptions for 463 yards (7.3 avg.) and one touchdown receiving.
> Nance does not get drafted. Cecil Lammey had good things to say from watching Nance in advance of the Shrine Game.
> Preseason with the Falcons – 21 carries / 51 yards and 2 goal line touchdowns. One fumble.
> 6th round draft pick Starks suffers hamstring injury and goes on PUP, and will miss the first 6 weeks of the season, minimum.
> Nance surprises a bit when the Falcons name him to the practice squad.
> Grant goes on I/R on Sept 14 and the Packers offer to sign Nance that same day. In an attempt to retain Nance, Atlanta offers to add him to the 53 man roster, but Nance opts for Green Bay. The timing suggest that the Packers had interest in Nance prior to the Grant injury.
> Mike McCarthy, during his first day of practice, acknowledges that the Packers had been interested in Nance through training camp. “Very explosive, instinctive, definitely has a very strong, quick lower half. Everything we saw on film was validated. He is a young player and I think he will be a good fit for us.”
> Surprises a bit by being active for the Sep 18th game with Buffalo, and has two carries for 6 yards.
> In the same Buffalo game, B. Jax gets 11 carries for 29 yards, 1 reception on 1 target for 10 yards. Kuhn gets 9 carries for 36 yards…no receptions on 1 target.
> Mike McCarthy said the team will split the running back snaps between Brandon Jackson, John Kuhn, and Dimitri Nance because Jackson is still valuable as the third-down back and he is not sure if Jackson could take the physical toll that comes with being a featured back.
> In the two weeks since the Grant injury, Green Bay has not added any new RB’s to the roster other than Nance.
Agreed ... And now I think Nance is a good add
Just changed my mind again ... Looked at Greenbays schedule against the run... It's Atrocious!3 Sep 27 @ CHI 4 Oct 3 DET 5 Oct 10 @ WAS 6 Oct 17 MIA 7 Oct 24 MIN 8 Oct 31 @ NYJ 9 Nov 7 DAL 10 bye 11 Nov 21 @ MIN 12 Nov 28 @ ATL 13 Dec 5 SFO 14 Dec 12 @ DET 15 Dec 19 @ NWE 16 Dec 26 NYG 17 Jan 2 CHI
Wyld Stallyns
Footballguy
texasbirdfan
Footballguy
A couple of things:
First, I thought if you had a player on the Practice Squad that they were the property of another team if the other team chose to put them on the 53 man roster. Maybe someone can clarify this that the incumbent taxi squad team can add to their roster and block the outside NFL team bidder.
Second: Nance looked good in the preseason (saw all the plays of Falcon preseason) and better to me than A. Smith, so I was surprised he was taxied to the practice squad.
That being said I drafted Starks in my rookie dynasty team draft in the 4th round and would and will keep him over Nance.
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packersfan
Footballguy
That'd be my guess too. It's also a strong sign the Packers are confident in Jackson and Kuhn in the backfield. Nance was reportedly "swimming" a bit last week trying to get the system down.
LittlePhatty
Footballguy
This article makes it sound like it is the player's decision, pretty much as though he is a Free Agent.So Green Bay offers him a roster spot. Before Nance decides to accept, Atlanta offers him a spot too. But Nance chose to take the Green Bay offer because he is further up the depth chart.
Sabertooth
Footballguy
I'm buying. He's a great option in dynasty to have in the final roster spot. Remember this is very reminiscent of Ryan Grant's ascent up the depth chart in Green Bay. It is pretty obvious that Kuhn and Jackson are best used in complimentary roles. Nance, or somebody else is going to lead this team in carries from here on out. If they do make a trade, Nance becomes worthless. If they don't he's got some value.
