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Let me know if you get him. I'm curious to see where he's getting drafted now.Shhhhhhh! My draft starts in 2 hours and I need him to fall...
He's been going 12-19 WR off the boardLet me know if you get him. I'm curious to see where he's getting drafted now.Shhhhhhh! My draft starts in 2 hours and I need him to fall...
Sooooo, Muhammed leaving will get Smith more attention from opposing defenses, yet Colbert and Gardner are going to steal balls? Which is it? And link to this Woods/Hicks info? And why won't they throw enough?Talk to Woods and Hicks...they say he's lost a step and the Panther's won't throw the ball enough. They also say the loss of Muhammad will result in more attention being directed Smith's way while the strength of Colbert/Gardner will cut into his looks.
I say look at the facts.
Don't ask me which it is.Sooooo, Muhammed leaving will get Smith more attention from opposing defenses, yet Colbert and Gardner are going to steal balls? Which is it? And link to this Woods/Hicks info? And why won't they throw enough?Talk to Woods and Hicks...they say he's lost a step and the Panther's won't throw the ball enough. They also say the loss of Muhammad will result in more attention being directed Smith's way while the strength of Colbert/Gardner will cut into his looks.
I say look at the facts.
Mostly agreed.Although I'm not sure the offensive situation will be that different this year. When Muhammad was at his best, the Panthers defense and running game was very strong.
Anyway, i am a HUGE fan of Smith this year. A few obvious facts make it a no brainer.1. In 2003, he and Muhammad were both healthy, and Smith was clearly the #1 WR, and only got better as the year went on.2. In 2004, Muhammad finished as the #1 WR with only Colbert on the other side.3. Muhammad is gone, and Smith has Colbert and Gardner, 2 guys who are decent enough to draw some attention, but not good enough to be #1 WR's.4. Delhomme has been a very productive QB, and seems to love Smith.5. Smith has been doing VERY well in the preseason.
I usually only pay attention to the over/under value plays when they receive more than two votes.Don't ask me which it is.Sooooo, Muhammed leaving will get Smith more attention from opposing defenses, yet Colbert and Gardner are going to steal balls? Which is it? And link to this Woods/Hicks info? And why won't they throw enough?Talk to Woods and Hicks...they say he's lost a step and the Panther's won't throw the ball enough. They also say the loss of Muhammad will result in more attention being directed Smith's way while the strength of Colbert/Gardner will cut into his looks.
I say look at the facts.
You are joking right???Moose was the number 2 man behind Smith......officially for one season, but really two. If not for the injury last year it would have been 3 years for Moose as a #2 man.
I'd be shocked if Smith ever puts up a season like Muhammad did last year. Muhammad's a big physical receiver with all the tools.
What was his worst year? 88 catches 1110 yards and 7 TD's is pretty darn good considering it was his first year as a starter(and only full year he has played) Also, dont forget what he did in the playoffs that year as well.
A couple of points here.A) The best year you spoke of was his 3rd year, those numbers are awesome for a third year WR.
I was about to type in these words verbatim (except my version had more dots between 'Smith' and 'officially').Exactly. Smith couldnt dream of doing the things Moose did last year. Muhammad has fought through alot of injuries, but hes always had #1 WR ability. Smith is a good #2 WR who can be forced into a #1 role.
This man knows things!
+--------------------------+-------------------------+ | Rushing | Receiving |+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+| Year TM | G | Att Yards Y/A TD | Rec Yards Y/R TD |+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+| 2003 ari | 16 | 5 40 8.0 0 | 101 1377 13.6 8 |+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+| TOTAL | 26 | 6 43 7.2 0 | 157 2000 12.7 9 |+----------+-----+--------------------------+------------------------- |---------- PASSING -----------||----- RUSHING -----| TOTAL CMP ATT YD YPA TD INT ATT YD YPA TD YD 299 533 3202 6.01 14 18 475 1668 3.51 15 4870NFL rank ---> 19 14 23 28 29 21 11 22 30 10 27fixed
What can Muhammad do that Steve Smith can not.....other than be 6 foot tall?
You might want to review the list of NFL reception leaders last year LHUCKS. (HINT: no one got to 100 as a WR)
Use his body, get open consistently, consistently dominate opposing defenses.
If Smith hadn't been injured Moose would have struggled for 800 yards last year.Last year was a fluke year for Moose, just takes a glance through his history to see that. So you are correct, I don't think Smith is the #1 WR this year.....of course there is no way Moose has another season like last year.
No to the first 5, yes to the rest.95 catches, 1340 yards, 9 TD's
A) Smith ranked as the 15th best WR in fantasy points (and FP/G) in 2003, at the age of 24. How good is that?That tied with Michael Jackson for the 47th best fantasy WR season by a 24 year old since 1970. 105 total WRs (age 24) ranked in the top 30.
Steve Smith is one of the top five WR's in the league from a football perspective. He's a tough SOB, fearless over the middle, and will go up with the best of them. Add his speed and he's on par with anyone in the league. I watched almost every game in 2003 and the guy NEVER stepped out of bounds. He'd take brutal punishment to get an extra half yard. If there's anyone who can will his way to the top, it's Smith. He's even demonstrated that he has his anger issues under control. Last year I said he was almost undraftable at his ADP because of his injury risk. This year at an ADP of WR15, I'll take my chances for the shot at a cheap top 5 WR. Don't let the fantasy predictions fool you, the Panthers will have a strong running attack. Between Davis, Foster, Shelton, and Goings and Robertson, someone will produce behind the improved line, hence opening up the field for Smith. 2003 game logs
Hmmm, maybe you should check Mushins career stats again.If Im reading you right here, and believe me Im hoping Im wrong...You are comparing Boldin's situation in 03 to Smith's in 05?Boldin was by far the ONLY offensive threat on a bad team, unless you are high on Nate Poole.see above post
Steve Smith has never had two touchdowns in an NFL game. Muhammad had multiple TDs in back to back games multiple times last year. No comparison.
When healthy and not being thrown to by Rodney Peete/Chris Weinke, Muhammad has always been a much MUCH better WR than what Smith is.Smith is an undersized possession WR, who is best suited to play across a guy like Muhammad. Hes not a #1 guy.
Mmm, kool-aid
But he was the #1 ahead of Moose in 2003. Yet you are asserting that Moose is easily a #1 guy. If Moose is a #1, Smith is a great #1.
Thoughts LHUCKS?
Really, did you have Muhammad ranked ahead of Smith going into last year?When healthy and not being thrown to by Rodney Peete/Chris Weinke, Muhammad has always been a much MUCH better WR than what Smith is.Smith is an undersized possession WR, who is best suited to play across a guy like Muhammad. Hes not a #1 guy.
A) Very GoodB) Steve Smith has done it before, Barlow never had, not to mention the Panthers offense is proven and the 49ers were a cluster####.
