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Currently Undervalued RBs (1 Viewer)

Ilov80s

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These RBs are currently undervalued and will likely see their stock rise in the coming weeks. All numbers are based on standard scoring, and passing TD=6.

RB:

1. Chester Taylor

Taylor is averaging 13 ppg. Good enough to make him 16th among backs. He has has racked up plenty of yards, but has struggled to find the endzone. I expect that to change. The Vikings run blockers are likely to get better as the season goes on. So do Chester's matchups. According to strength of remaining schedule (based on average points given up at RB position vs. NFL average), Taylor only has 2 difficult matchups for the remainder of the year. He has 3 neutral mactchups and a spectacular 5 positive matchups. His week 15,16, and 17 are arguably the best out there as the Vikes takes on the Jets, Packers, and hosts the Rams. I expect Chester to emerge as the Lamont Jordan of 06.

2. Tatum Bell

There is always hype surrounding Tatum Bell. Some owners buy in, other owners laugh at it. There are likely Bell owners who are viewing this as a sell high situation. I will ignore all the Shanny BS that consumes threads and accept TBell as the feature back. The detractors will say: Bell is only averaging 9.5 ppg. I say: since officially taking over as the feature back, Tatum has moved his average up to 11. That includes a hard fought 9 against the Ravens. Bell's schedule softens up as he has 5 good matchups, including a cakewalk playoff run: Zona, Cinci, and San Fran. The Cards are giving up 24% over the league average to RBs. The Bengals are at a pathetic 43%. The 49ers are getting lambasted with 53% more then average!

3. Fred Taylor

4.Maurice Jones Drew

It seems crystal clear that Fred will get 20 carries a game when healthy. Its not clear what Mojo will get, but he has shown he can make the most of his touches. Fredy is averaging 11 ppg, Drew is averaging 10. This a very potent RB tandem that is getting very little credit right now. Way undervalued. This won't last long with the soft schedule Jax has down the stretch. Only 2 touch matchups. 6 cupcakes! Thats 6 safe-play matchups. Also, if either one is to get injured, we could be talking a top 5 back.

4. Julius Jones

5. MB3

Another undervalued RB tandem. JJ is putting up 13 a game and living up to his 05 hype. Barber is averaging 10. Dallas' schedule reveals Carolina in week 8 is likely the only bump in the smooth road that remains for this dyanmic duo. Again, if we see either RB miss time, then the potential exists for an explosive finish.

6. Kevin Jones

KJ is also living up to the 05 hype as he is averaging 13 ppg. KJ's playoff schedule isn't particularly good, but if you need some production over the next few weeks then KJ is a good option. Although he does have a week 8 bye, KJ faces off against the Jets, 49ers and Cards in 3 of the next 5 weeks. He is a must start against those soft run D's. He also has a neutral matchup against the Falcons sandwiched in there. If you can ride him the next few weeks, then you might have yourself a fine piece of deadline tradebait.

7. Benson

I don't think too highly of him, but with the pace the Bears are at Cedric might see a lot of playing time down the stretch. The Bears could be resting TJones for the playoffs and taking the oppurtunity to test Benson. The final 4 matchups are soft and I would not be surprised to see Benson get a combined 90 touches through those final 4 games. Don't scoff at Benson. Championships are often won by some obscure players. There is also the dreaded injury factor which looms over every RB.

Opinions? Questions?

 
It is what it is said:
1 Chester Taylor - What is the impact of a Brad Johnson injury to Chester Taylor? 3 Fred Taylor & Maurice Drew - How long do you honestly believe either Taylor or Drew would last taking on the touches of a top 5 RB, if the other got injured?6 Kevin Jones - Why would you wanna trade (at anytime) a RB who is currently handling a top 10 workload, currently is a top 10 FF RB, and puts up numbers in all aspects of the offense?
-Maybe I'm out of the loop, but what injury to Brad? He finished up the game against Detroit and looked fine. This week they had a bye. -Over the last 6 years, only 1 RB has -averaged atleast 4.6 yards per carry AND had atleast 260 carries- in 4 seasons. That man is Fred Taylor. The "Fragile" label is BS. He has proven he can stay healthy, proven he be a feature back, and proven he can pile up yards in a hurry. -As for Mojo, all we can judge him on is his history in college. The guy never missed significant time. He is short, but not small. He comes in at 5'7 206. Thats larger then Barry Sanders and Warrick Dunn. They never had problems carrying a full load.- Because of KJ's last 6 opponents, 5 of them are significantly bad matchups. 5 of them are giving up atleast 30% below the NFL average for FF ppg at the RB position. Did you watch KJ against Chicago? He is not an every week start. The Lions offense is too prone to turnovers, penalties, abandoning the run, and general dysfunction. Maybe as the season wears on those matchups improve and you keep KJ. Right now, I see it as prototypical sell-high situation.
 
It is what it is said:
It is what it is said:
1 Chester Taylor - What is the impact of a Brad Johnson injury to Chester Taylor? 3 Fred Taylor & Maurice Drew - How long do you honestly believe either Taylor or Drew would last taking on the touches of a top 5 RB, if the other got injured?6 Kevin Jones - Why would you wanna trade (at anytime) a RB who is currently handling a top 10 workload, currently is a top 10 FF RB, and puts up numbers in all aspects of the offense?
-Maybe I'm out of the loop, but what injury to Brad? He finished up the game against Detroit and looked fine. This week they had a bye. -Over the last 6 years, only 1 RB has -averaged atleast 4.6 yards per carry AND had atleast 260 carries- in 4 seasons. That man is Fred Taylor. The "Fragile" label is BS. He has proven he can stay healthy, proven he be a feature back, and proven he can pile up yards in a hurry. -As for Mojo, all we can judge him on is his history in college. The guy never missed significant time. He is short, but not small. He comes in at 5'7 206. Thats larger then Barry Sanders and Warrick Dunn. They never had problems carrying a full load.- Because of KJ's last 6 opponents, 5 of them are significantly bad matchups. 5 of them are giving up atleast 30% below the NFL average for FF ppg at the RB position. Did you watch KJ against Chicago? He is not an every week start. The Lions offense is too prone to turnovers, penalties, abandoning the run, and general dysfunction. Maybe as the season wears on those matchups improve and you keep KJ. Right now, I see it as prototypical sell-high situation.
Didn't say Brad Johnson was injured, wanted to know your thoughts on the impact of a Johnson injury to Chester Taylor's numbers?So how many times has great Fred Taylor finished as a top 5 RB? I prefer to not soley rely on college production as a barometer as to whether or not to grade out an NFL rookie RB like MJD as a possible top 5 guy. Plenty of guys have done it in college, but not in the pro's. Big, big difference there...Kevin Jones was fine against Chicago. The turnovers are what finished Detroit in that game. Kevin Jones had almost 50 total yards on the first three Lions possessions in that game, all three in the first quarter. The fumbles are what took Jones out of that game. Trading a RB like Kevin Jones who is accumulating plenty of touches, and looks very good in the process, is not the advice you want to be giving imo.
- An injury to Brad Johnson hurts the entire Vikes offense and that includes Chester. Balance is the key to success. - Fred Taylor finished top 5 in 2000. He would have likely had another, if not for GL vulture Stacey Mack. The 06 GL vulture is out for the year. With the easy schedule, balanced offense, and powerful defense I could see Taylor finishing very strong. Also, I think there will be a real dip in individual RB production for 06. We aren't likely to see 3 RBs scoring 20+ TDs. That means a top 5 finish won't need to be quite so spectacular.- If you want to judge MJD only on what he has done in the NFL, then realize since becoming part of the offense in week 3 Mojo is averaging 14 ff ppg. He has 4 TDs in 3 games and is averaging 9 yards per touch. - As for Kevin Jones, a RB is only as good as his team. I don't like his matchups against Chicago, Minnesota, New England, or Dallas. Considering that makes up 4 of his last 5 games, I would sell KJ. Week 16 with big $$$ on the line, I wouldn't want to be staring at KJ vs. Chicago.
 
It is what it is said:
Ilov80s said:
- An injury to Brad Johnson hurts the entire Vikes offense and that includes Chester. Balance is the key to success. - Fred Taylor finished top 5 in 2000. He would have likely had another, if not for GL vulture Stacey Mack. The 06 GL vulture is out for the year. With the easy schedule, balanced offense, and powerful defense I could see Taylor finishing very strong. Also, I think there will be a real dip in individual RB production for 06. We aren't likely to see 3 RBs scoring 20+ TDs. That means a top 5 finish won't need to be quite so spectacular.- If you want to judge MJD only on what he has done in the NFL, then realize since becoming part of the offense in week 3 Mojo is averaging 14 ff ppg. He has 4 TDs in 3 games and is averaging 9 yards per touch. - As for Kevin Jones, a RB is only as good as his team. I don't like his matchups against Chicago, Minnesota, New England, or Dallas. Considering that makes up 4 of his last 5 games, I would sell KJ. Week 16 with big $$$ on the line, I wouldn't want to be staring at KJ vs. Chicago.
I would be more concerned with a potential Brad Johnson injury and it's effect on Chester Taylor, than I would be worrying about Kevin Jones week 16 matchup versus Chicago.Again you stated Taylor or Drew would be a good top 5 candidate if one or the other got injured.Taylor has never really proven to be a top 5 RB in his history (once only), and Taylor has never been a good short yardage guy - which is the reason for Stewart, Mack & GJones in Jacksonville through various regimes. You wanting to base Drew's ability to carry the load of a top 5 NFL RB soley on his UCLA career and less than a handfull of pro games thus far just isn't cutting it here either.Above in your OP you claim Benson will get late season playing time while the Bears rest Thomas Jones...yet why should we not expect the Bears to be resting their key defensive players in week 16 vs Kevin Jones? :D
Remember, I am saying KJ is great option right now. I just believe that after the next 3-4 weeks his value will be inflated. His stats will surge and then tail off IMO. Since you obviously disagree with the majority of my list, who do you consider the undervalued RBs right now?
 
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Trading a RB like Kevin Jones who is accumulating plenty of touches, and looks very good in the process, is not the advice you want to be giving imo.

Incorrect. That is the very definition of "sell high" scenario. 8 yards from 10 carries is just a game away for Jones. If someone like you thinks he's great and will give up a recent dissapointment like say, Rudi, then why wouldn't you....

 
It is what it is said:
Trading a RB like Kevin Jones who is accumulating plenty of touches, and looks very good in the process, is not the advice you want to be giving imo.
Incorrect. That is the very definition of "sell high" scenario. 8 yards from 10 carries is just a game away for Jones. If someone like you thinks he's great and will give up a recent dissapointment like say, Rudi, then why wouldn't you....

What is incorrect is your perception that Kevin Jones has 8 yards in a game at anytime this season. So far Kevon Jones lowest output has been 50 total yards in any game. And other than that one game of 50 yards, Jones has averaged between 80 and 160+ yards per game every single game this year. :yes:

He has had 2 games of 50 yards. Bears and Vikings. He will play both during playoffs.

 
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It is what it is said:
It is what it is said:
Incorrect. That is the very definition of "sell high" scenario. 8 yards from 10 carries is just a game away for Jones. If someone like you thinks he's great and will give up a recent dissapointment like say, Rudi, then why wouldn't you....
What is incorrect is your perception that Kevin Jones has 8 yards in a game at anytime this season. So far Kevon Jones lowest output has been 50 total yards in any game. And other than that one game of 50 yards, Jones has averaged between 80 and 160+ yards per game every single game this year. :yes:
He has had 2 games of 50 yards. Bears and Bills.
This would also be incorrect. Kevin Jones had 82 yards versus Chicago...
You are right. He fumbled twice tho and thats where I saw the loss of points.
 
Anyone here think that Ronnie Brown is undervalued? I do. Any RB that involved in his team's offense is worthwhile given the number of RBs that aren't. Add the stigma of being a Dolphin, and you have the receipe for some value, IMO.

 
I stand corrected on KJ's yardage. Still- in standard scoring- he has been very Jeckyl/Hyde.

Here are his point totals:

6

4

18

21

5

22

His schedule from week 12 on is giving up on average 25% below the league average of FF points to RBs. With two of the teams (Bears and Vikes) being responsible for his worst two performances of the year. Down the end of the year, he won't have Buffalo and Saint Louis to take advantage of. Considering somewhere around Week 11 is usually the trade deadline, this is a perfect oppurtunity IMO.

 
Anyone here think that Ronnie Brown is undervalued? I do. Any RB that involved in his team's offense is worthwhile given the number of RBs that aren't. Add the stigma of being a Dolphin, and you have the receipe for some value, IMO.
After talking to Ronnie Brown owners in my league, they still feel Brown is a top 10 back. Ronnie has a great playoff schedule going against the Bills, Jets, and Colts in the final 3 weeks. Definitely a guy to target if you can get a fair deal.
 
These RBs are currently undervalued and will likely see their stock rise in the coming weeks. All numbers are based on standard scoring, and passing TD=6. 7. BensonI don't think too highly of him, but with the pace the Bears are at Cedric might see a lot of playing time down the stretch. The Bears could be resting TJones for the playoffs and taking the oppurtunity to test Benson. The final 4 matchups are soft and I would not be surprised to see Benson get a combined 90 touches through those final 4 games. Don't scoff at Benson. Championships are often won by some obscure players. There is also the dreaded injury factor which looms over every RB. Opinions? Questions?
The clock is ticking on Mr. Jump Around... :goodposting:
 
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Ilov80s said:
I stand corrected on KJ's yardage. Still- in standard scoring- he has been very Jeckyl/Hyde. Here are his point totals:641821522His schedule from week 12 on is giving up on average 25% below the league average of FF points to RBs. With two of the teams (Bears and Vikes) being responsible for his worst two performances of the year. Down the end of the year, he won't have Buffalo and Saint Louis to take advantage of. Considering somewhere around Week 11 is usually the trade deadline, this is a perfect oppurtunity IMO.
Kevin Jones started off the first two games of the year fumbling the ball quite a bit, and as usual, fumbling is a correctable problem. Jones performed well in both games statistically, other than the fumbles. In Jones worst game of the year versus Minnesota, the Lions were without starting WR Roy Williams for all but three plays of that game. Now let's take a look at your teams listed that are shutting down opposing RB's in fantasy terms that Kevin Jones faces towards the end of the schedule.New England played the Jets, and a Miami team who's offensive line was in flux.Dallas played Washington without Clinton Portis, they also played a Tennesssee team undecided on their starting RB at that point, in using both Lendale White and Chris Brown that game.Chicago played Seattle without Shaun Alexander.Minnesota played both Carolina and Detroit without their top receiver in Steve Smith and Roy Williams (injured-out on 3rd play of the game).You see, there is a cause and effect for all statistics that needs to be considered...These teams you listed abilities in shutting down RB's, just may not appear as stout as you claim, when considering the above factors. If you are gonna claim Kevin Jones benefitted from playing St Louis and Buffalo, then one must also claim the benefits your chosen defensive teams had in their matchups as well that benefits their statistical output versus opposing RB's.Bottom line on Kevin Jones...Kevin Jones has averaged anywhere from 80 yards to 160 yards in every single game this year except for one. The one game Jones failed to (he got 50 yards), he lost his best receiver in Roy Williams on the third play of the game for the Lions offense.
Fair enough. The truth is we both like Kevin Jones. Thats why I had him on my list of underrated backs. You happen to like him down the stretch a lot more then I do. Thats fair. We both agree KJ=very good.
 
I think E. James is undervalued and now might be the perfect time to grab him I think he may half a second have of the season similar to Mike Anderson last year. I may be able to swing him for a WR2 like A. Bryant or maybe even Doug Gabriel depending on where the strength of your squad lies and the weakness of the other squad.

 
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Anyone here think that Ronnie Brown is undervalued? I do. Any RB that involved in his team's offense is worthwhile given the number of RBs that aren't. Add the stigma of being a Dolphin, and you have the receipe for some value, IMO.
After talking to Ronnie Brown owners in my league, they still feel Brown is a top 10 back. Ronnie has a great playoff schedule going against the Bills, Jets, and Colts in the final 3 weeks. Definitely a guy to target if you can get a fair deal.
Absolutely agree. Ronnie has been decent so far and should only get better with GB, KC, Det, and then that playoff schedule. The Chi, Min, and Jac games will be tough though.He's getting love around the end zone and I expect the Dolphins to play better ball. He's a tough runner and if this team would get their passing act together he'll light it up.I feel like this is the last week to buy somewhat low on Ronnie as I expect he'll go off this week against the Pack.Last night I sold Westbrook to the Ronnie owner for Ronnie and Reggie Williams in my deepest league (14 teams). I'm pretty happy with that because I also expect RW to have a big 2nd half and I wasn't deep at WR.
 
Wasn't Ronnie supposed to go off against the Texans and Titans as well?

I'm a Ronnie owner, and I'm not totally sold here. The Fins offense is terrible, they can't score any points, the play calling is bogus... why would ronnie get any better? His schedule has already been really easy.

 
Wasn't Ronnie supposed to go off against the Texans and Titans as well? I'm a Ronnie owner, and I'm not totally sold here. The Fins offense is terrible, they can't score any points, the play calling is bogus... why would ronnie get any better? His schedule has already been really easy.
Mike Mularkey is the "Cooler" of fantasy running backs. Last year, Willis. This year, Ronnie. QB issues abound on both teams, yes, but it's no coincidence that Mularkey is the common denominator of some brutal/underwhelming fantasy RB performances. The guy flat out does NOT know how to use a running back, e.g. throwing on the first two downs from the 2-yard line. If I had a buck for every time he did that with Willis last year....and now he does it with Brown. :thumbdown: to Saban for letting MM, who makes Art Shell look like Lombardi, make even one play call per game.
 
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