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OFFICIAL Pro Day Discussion (1 Viewer)

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Here is the schedule (from NFL.com) for each school's pro day. These are listed by school, I will post again later and order them by date.

Abilene Christian March 13 Johnny Knox, Bernard Scott

Air Force March 16

Akron March 18

Alabama March 11 Antoine Caldwell, Glen Coffee, Rashad Johnson, Andre Smith, John Parker Wilson

Alabama State March 6

Alcorn State March 24 Lee Robinson

Appalachian State March 24

Arizona March 14 Eben Britton, Mike Thomas

Arizona State March 20 Rudy Carpenter, Paul Fanaika, Troy Nolan, Morris Wooten

Arkansas March 10 Jonathan Luigs, Jose Valdez

Arkansas-Pine Bluff March 11

Arkansas State March 31 David Johnson

Auburn March 10 Tyronne Green, Sen'Derrick Marks, Jerraud Powers

Ball State March 26 Robert Brewster, Nate Davis

Bethany (Kansas) March 11

Boise State March 17 Jeremy Childs, Ian Johnson

Boston College March 12 Kevin Akins, Ron Brace, B.J. Raji

Bowie State March 17

Bowling Green March 12

Brown March 11

BYU March 11 Travis Bright, Austin Collie, Ray Feinga

California March 18 Rulon Davis, Anthony Felder, Zack Follett, Alex Mack, Cameron Morrah, Worrell Williams

Carson-Newman March 10

Central Arkansas March 11 Marquez Branson, Nathan Brown

Central Florida March 26 Joe Burnett

Central Michigan March 16

Central Oklahoma March 10

Central Washington March 9 Jared Bronson, Mike Reilly

Cincinnati March 19 Connor Barwin, Trevor Canfield, Kevin Huber, Mike Mickens, DeAngelo Smith,

Brandon Underwood

Clark March 9

Clemson March 24 Chris Clemons, James Davis, Michael Hamlin, Cullen Harper, Aaron Kelly, Dorell Scott

Colorado March 9

Colorado State March 10 Gartrell Johnson, Kory Sperry

Connecticut March 25 William Beatty, Cody Brown, Donald Brown, Darius Butler

East Carolina March 26 Davon Drew, Khalif Mitchell

Eastern Kentucky March 24

Eastern Michigan March 16

Eastern Washington March 9

Florida March 15 Percy Harvin, Cornelius Ingram, Louis Murphy, Jason Watkins

Florida A&M March 19

Florida State March 16 Everette Brown, Graham Gano

Fort Valley State March 30

Fresno State March 11 Tom Brandstater, Bear Pascoe

Furman March 24 Joel Bell

Georgia March 19 Asher Allen, Dannell Ellerbe, Corvey Irvin, Mohamed Massaquoi, Knowshon Moreno,

Brannan Southerland, Matthew Stafford, Jarius Wynn

Georgia Tech March 9 Andrew Gardner, Michael Johnson, Darryl Richard, Vance Walker,

Jahi Word-Daniels

Graceland (Iowa) March 5

Grand Valley State March 9

Hampton March 20 Chris Baker

Hawaii April 2 Jake Ingram, Ryan Mouton, David Veikune

Hofstra March 24

Howard March 10

Idaho March 12 Eddie Williams

Illinois March 18 Vontae Davis, Will Davis, Xavier Fulton, Derek Walker

Indiana March 10 Andrew Means

Iowa March 23 Robert Bruggeman, Bradley Fletcher, Shonn Greene, Mitch King, Seth Olsen

Iowa State March 25

Jackson State March 25 Domonique Johnson

James Madison March 18

Kansas March 10

Kansas State March 12 Ian Campbell, Josh Freeman

Kent State March 12 Augustus Parrish

Kentucky March 11 Tim Masthay, Marcus McClinton, Myron Pryor

Louisiana-Lafayette March 17

Louisiana Tech March 18

Louisville March 26 Hunter Cantwell, Adrian Grady, Eric Wood

LSU March 16 Darry Beckwith, Demetrius Byrd, Marlon Favorite, Brett Helms, Tyson Jackson,

Ricky Jean-Francois, Herman Johnson, Quinn Johnson, Curtis Taylor

Maine March 26

Marshall March 20 Darius Passmore, C.J. Spillman

Maryland March 11 Kevin Barnes, Moise Fokou, Daniel Gronkowski, Darrius Heyward-Bey,

Jaime Thomas, Edwin Williams

Massachussets March 26

McNeese State March 10 Quinten Lawrence, Kyle Link

Miami (Ohio) March 20

Michigan March 13 Sean Griffin, Tim Jamison, Terrance Taylor, Morgan Trent

Michigan State March 18 Brian Hoyer, Javon Ringer, Otis Wiley

Mississippi March 26 Jason Cook, Peria Jerry, Maurice Miller, Michael Oher, Jamarca Sanford,

Mike Wallace

Mississippi State April 1 Derek Pegues

Missouri March 5, March 19 Chase Coffman, Chase Daniel, Evander Hood, Jeremy Maclin, William Moore,

Stryker Sulak

Missouri Western April 2

Montana March 9

Montana State March 11

Morgan State March 19

Murray State March 24

Navy March 11

Nebraska March 12 Cody Glenn, Marlon Lucky, Lydon Murtha, Zach Potter, Matt Slauson, Nate Swift

Nebraska-Omaha March 13

Nevada March 25 Josh Mauga, Marko Mitchell

New Hampshire March 19

New Mexico March 12 Glover Quin, DeAndre Wright

New Mexico State March 11 Chase Holbrook

Norfolk State March 20, March 27 Don Carey

North Carolina March 17 Brooks Foster, Hakeem Nicks, Richard Quinn, Garrett Reynolds, Brandon Tate

North Carolina-Central March 25

N.C. State March 18 Andre Brown, Anthony Hill

North Dakota State March 24

Northern Colorado March 10

Northern Illinois March 16 Larry English

Northwestern March 12 Tyrell Sutton

Northwest Missouri March 11

Ohio March 12

Ohio State March 13 Alex Boone, Marcus Freeman, Brian Hartline, Malcolm Jenkins, James Laurinaitis, Brian Robiskie, Donald Washington, Chris Wells

Oklahoma March 10 Jon Cooper, Nic Harris, Lendy Holmes, Juaquin Iglesias, Manuel Johnson,

Phil Loadholt, Duke Robinson, Brandon Walker

Oklahoma State March 11 Matt Fodge, Brandon Pettigrew

Oregon March 12 Jairus Byrd, Patrick Chung, RaShon Harris, Jeremiah Johnson, Fenuki Tupou, Max Unger,

Jaison Williams

Oregon State March 13 Victor Butler, Brandon Hughes, Andy Levitre, Keenan Lewis, Sammie Stroughter

Penn State March 18 Deon Butler, Gerald Cadogan, Maurice Evans, Aaron Maybin, Jordan Norwood, Lydell Sargeant, A.Q. Shipley, Derrick Williams

Pittsburgh March 17 C.J. Davis, LeSean McCoy, Scott McKillop

Portland State March 11

Purdue March 13 Alex Magee, Greg Orton, Curtis Painter, Kory Sheets

Rice March 26 James Casey, Jarett Dillard

Richmond March 19 Lawrence Sidbury Jr.

Rutgers March 23 Kenny Britt, Courtney Greene, Tiquan Underwood

Samford March 12

San Diego State March 21

San Jose State March 20 Coye Francies, Jarron Gilbert, Christopher Owens, David Richmond

SMU April 2 Thomas Morstead

South Carolina March 18, March 25 Jasper Brinkley, Emanuel Cook, Jared Cook, Kenny McKinley, Jamon Meredith, Captain Munnerlyn

South Carolina State March 23

South Florida March 13 Taurus Johnson, Tyrone McKenzie

Southeastern Oklahoma March 9

Southern March 17

Southern Miss March 25 Ryan McKee, Gerald McRath, Shawn Nelson

Stanford March 19 Pannel Egboh, Alex Fletcher, Anthony Kimble, Wopamo Osaisai

SUNY-Albany March 5

TCU March 6 Stephen Hodge, Jason Phillips

Temple March 19 Terrance Knighton

Tennessee March 11 Robert Ayers, Demonte' Bolden, Britton Colquitt, Arian Foster, Ramon Foster, Anthony Parker

Tennessee State March 20 Cornelius Lewis, Javarris Williams

Texas March 25 Quan Cosby, Roy Miller, Chris Ogbonnaya, Brian Orakpo, Ryan Palmer

Texas State March 24

Texas Tech March 12 Michael Crabtree, Graham Harrell, Darcel McBath, Louis Vasquez, Brandon Williams

Toledo March 12

Towson March 10

Troy March 5 Sherrod Martin

Tulane March 20 Troy Kropog

Tulsa March 9 Brennan Marion

UCLA March 31 Kahlil Bell

UC Davis March 20

UNLV March 5

USC April 1 David Buehler, Brian Cushing McRath, Kevin Ellison, Cary Harris, Kaluka Maiava, Clay Matthews, Rey Maualuga, Fili Moala, Kyle Moore, Mark Sanchez, Patrick Turner

Utah March 9 Paul Kruger, Louie Sakoda, Sean Smith

Utah State March 6, March 27 Rob Myers

UTEP March 12 Robby Felix, Jose Martinez

Valdosta State March 2

Vanderbilt March 5 D.J. Moore

Virginia March 19 Eugene Monroe, Kevin Ogletree, Cedric Peerman, John Phillips, Clint Sintim

Virginia Tech March 19 Victor Harris, Orion Martin

Wake Forest March 23 Stanley Arnoux, Aaron Curry, Alphonso Smith, Sam Swank, Chip Vaughn

Washington March 10 Juan Garcia

Weber State March 10 Marcus Mailei

West Texas A&M March 11

West Virginia March 12 Greg Isdaner, Mortty Ivy, Pat White

Western Kentucky March 25

Western Michigan March 10 Louis Delmas

William & Mary March 23

Wyoming March 12

 
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From Gil Brandt, NFL.com

TEXAS A&M

Certainly the 17 NFL scouts and one coach who showed up at Texas A&M’s pro day will remember the quarterback and his workout. The Aggies held their pro day on Wednesday, but it actually began with meet-and-greets Tuesday night at Wings-n-More in College Station, where scouts had an opportunity to conduct personal player interviews as well as ask questions of the A&M coaching staff.

The only non-scout at the pro day was Jaguars quarterbacks coach David Shula, who put McGee through QB drills. And let me tell you, McGee looked outstanding.

McGee, who ran the second-fastest 40 among quarterbacks at the combine (4.66), measured 6-2 7/8 and weighed 222 pounds, down 3 from his combine weigh-in.

Watch out for this kid on draft day.

Among the 14 players who worked out for scouts:

Running back Mike Goodson (5-11 ¾, 212 pounds) ran the 40 in 4.43 and 4.47 seconds and did positional drills for the scouts. His 40 times might be inflated a little because A&M is one of three schools (Wisconsin and Ohio State are the others) to lay down a rubber surface over the top of their indoor field turf, which can result in quicker times. Goodson ran a 4.54 40 at the combine, the seventh-fastest among running backs in Indy two weeks ago. Defensive end Michael Bennett (6-2 7/8, 222) ran two 40s, both in 4.86 seconds, and had a vertical of 36.5 inches. The vertical jump event was conducted by A&M coaches.

Punter Justin Brantly (6-3 3/8, 247 pounds) looked pretty good in his workout.

Cornerback Danny Gorrer (5-11 5/8, 185 pounds) ran the 40 in 4.42 and 4.40 seconds, had a 35.5-inch vertical, a 9-foot 5-inch broad jump, and a 6.90-second 3-cone drill. He slipped in his short shuttle and no time was recorded.

 
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WISCONSIN

There were 28 teams represented at Wisconsin’s pro day. The Badgers’ NFL prospects ran on FieldTurf. Wisconsin did not put a rubber matting across the field like it did last year.

Two position coaches — Carolina’s offensive line coach Dave Magazu and Jaguars tight ends coach Mike Tice — were in attendance. A total of 11 players worked out and they all ran position drills.

Wisconsin head coach Bret Bielema spent a great deal of time answering questions prior to the workout and was very helpful.

Running back P.J. Hill measured in at 5-foot-10 1/8, 218 pounds. It is the lighest he’s been since junior high school. He ran 4.65 and 4.63 in the 40-yard dash. He had a 37-inch vertical jump and a 10-foot 2-inch broad jump. He ran a 4.24 in the short shuttle and had a 7.09 in the three-cone drill. He had 16 bench press reps.

Tight end Travis Beckum checked in at 6-2 3/4, 239 pounds. He ran a 4.61 and 4.63 in the 40-yard dash as well as recording a 9-foot 10-inch broad jump. He had a 38.5 inch vertical, a 4.10 short shuttle and a 7.05 three-cone drill. He did not lift.

Guard Kraig Urbik came in at 6-5 3/8, 328 pounds. He ran 5.30 and 5.25 in the 40 and tallied a 4.75 second short shuttle. He did not run the three-cone drill. He put up a 25.5-inch vertical jump and an 8-foot 2-inch broad jump. He did not lift.

Guard Andy Kemp was measured at 6-4 3/4, 306 pounds. He ran 5.35 and 5.38 in the 40 and had a 7-foot 11-inch broad jump. He also put up a 27.5-inch vertical jump and ran the short shuttle in 4.83 seconds.

Defensive end Matt Shaungnessy checked in at 6-5 1/8, 263 pounds. He ran a 4.86 40, but did not do any other drills.

Linebacker Jonathan Casillas is injured and did not work out, nor did linebacker DeAndre Levy. They will work out on April 2.

OL Eric VandenHeuvel, who declined a combine invitation, has made the decision to attend medical school rather than pursue a career in the NFL.

 
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WISCONSIN

There were 28 teams represented at Wisconsin’s pro day. The Badgers’ NFL prospects ran on FieldTurf. Wisconsin did not put a rubber matting across the field like it did last year.

Two position coaches — Carolina’s offensive line coach Dave Magazu and Jaguars tight ends coach Mike Tice — were in attendance. A total of 11 players worked out and they all ran position drills.

Wisconsin head coach Bret Bielema spent a great deal of time answering questions prior to the workout and was very helpful.

Running back P.J. Hill measured in at 5-foot-10 1/8, 218 pounds. It is the lighest he’s been since junior high school. He ran 4.65 and 4.63 in the 40-yard dash. He had a 37-inch vertical jump and a 10-foot 2-inch broad jump. He ran a 4.24 in the short shuttle and had a 7.09 in the three-cone drill. He had 16 bench press reps.

Tight end Travis Beckum checked in at 6-2 3/4, 239 pounds. He ran a 4.61 and 4.63 in the 40-yard dash as well as recording a 9-foot 10-inch broad jump. He had a 38.5 inch vertical, a 4.10 short shuttle and a 7.05 three-cone drill. He did not lift.

Guard Kraig Urbik came in at 6-5 3/8, 328 pounds. He ran 5.30 and 5.25 in the 40 and tallied a 4.75 second short shuttle. He did not run the three-cone drill. He put up a 25.5-inch vertical jump and an 8-foot 2-inch broad jump. He did not lift.

Guard Andy Kemp was measured at 6-4 3/4, 306 pounds. He ran 5.35 and 5.38 in the 40 and had a 7-foot 11-inch broad jump. He also put up a 27.5-inch vertical jump and ran the short shuttle in 4.83 seconds.

Defensive end Matt Shaungnessy checked in at 6-5 1/8, 263 pounds. He ran a 4.86 40, but did not do any other drills.

Linebacker Jonathan Casillas is injured and did not work out, nor did linebacker DeAndre Levy. They will work out on April 2.

OL Eric VandenHeuvel, who declined a combine invitation, has made the decision to attend medical school rather than pursue a career in the NFL.
The Tight end is faster than the running back, LOL.
 
I honestly cant imagine what a 218 pound PJ Hill looks like or runs like - what if someone told you LenDale was down to 218? It boggles the mind.

McGee is back, and Im ready to put him in my top 5-7 QBs when my rankings come out.

 
I honestly cant imagine what a 218 pound PJ Hill looks like or runs like - what if someone told you LenDale was down to 218? It boggles the mind.McGee is back, and Im ready to put him in my top 5-7 QBs when my rankings come out.
I told you in the Combine thread that he should probably be the 4th qb taken. And honestly I think I would prefer him to Sanchez. (as in getting him later in the draft as opposed to drafting sanchez early.)
 
I honestly cant imagine what a 218 pound PJ Hill looks like or runs like - what if someone told you LenDale was down to 218? It boggles the mind.McGee is back, and Im ready to put him in my top 5-7 QBs when my rankings come out.
I told you in the Combine thread that he should probably be the 4th qb taken. And honestly I think I would prefer him to Sanchez. (as in getting him later in the draft as opposed to drafting sanchez early.)
Im with you, PT - we were the first ones reporting that he looked surprisingly good at the Shrine Game - Im on the McGee bandwagon!
 
I honestly cant imagine what a 218 pound PJ Hill looks like or runs like - what if someone told you LenDale was down to 218? It boggles the mind.McGee is back, and Im ready to put him in my top 5-7 QBs when my rankings come out.
I told you in the Combine thread that he should probably be the 4th qb taken. And honestly I think I would prefer him to Sanchez. (as in getting him later in the draft as opposed to drafting sanchez early.)
Im with you, PT - we were the first ones reporting that he looked surprisingly good at the Shrine Game - Im on the McGee bandwagon!
I think he and John Parker-Wilson are gonna be some surprise names drafted. Alot of people are gonna be scratching their heads when these guys start climbing the depth chart of their drafted teams.
 
Hey

Just did an interview with Fresno State QB Tom Brandstater (you can listen to it here) where he just revealed he has a torn lat muscle. Hurt sometime before the Combine and aggravated during the Combine.

He will NOT work out tomorrow at the Fresno State Pro Day. Bit is at about 12 minutes into the show. I thought I missed somethign but Bloom, Lammey and a bunch of others had no idea either.

We'll see if it matters - project QB anyway, but he was hot off that Combine performance.

 
Frank Summers seemed to have a decent pro day. Wonder if he'll be FB only at the next level or could he be a Jerome Bettis type back? I love those big smashmouth types

 
Tomorrow is a big one, if Andre Smith shows up out of shape the dude is the biggest idiot coming out of college.

 
Tomorrow is a big one, if Andre Smith shows up out of shape the dude is the biggest idiot coming out of college.
I am really fascinated to see what he does.Mayock was saying today he could end up back in the top 10 if he performs well both on and off the field.One can hope he has his head on straight.....
 
Tomorrow is a big one, if Andre Smith shows up out of shape the dude is the biggest idiot coming out of college.
I am really fascinated to see what he does.Mayock was saying today he could end up back in the top 10 if he performs well both on and off the field.One can hope he has his head on straight.....
How could he have his head on straignt? He gets suspended for his bowl game and then shows up to the most important interview of his life out of shape? :thumbup:
 
JAA said:
NoFBinLA said:
Chachi said:
Tomorrow is a big one, if Andre Smith shows up out of shape the dude is the biggest idiot coming out of college.
I am really fascinated to see what he does.Mayock was saying today he could end up back in the top 10 if he performs well both on and off the field.One can hope he has his head on straight.....
How could he have his head on straignt? He gets suspended for his bowl game and then shows up to the most important interview of his life out of shape? :shrug:
You never know when someone gets the wake up call. It's his last chance and if he does well, he could find himself back in the top ten according to many analysts.But who knows?well, we might by the end of today.
 
From Gil Brandt

Andre Smith, one of the top offensive tackle prospects in this year’s draft, said he was relying on Alabama’s pro day to make up for the disappearing act he put on at the combine. Well, the first returns are not overly impressive.

His best 40-yard dash time was 5.28 seconds and he put up only 19 bench press lifts at 225 pounds. His 40 time would have not been among the top 10 performers at his position in the combine and his bench press reps would have put him well behind the top 10.

The rest of Smith and his Alabama teammates’ numbers from pro day will be in shortly on NFL.com.

 
The big story to come out of Norman, Okla., on Tuesday was Nic Harris’ continued slow times in the 40-yard dash. The 6-foot-2 and 7/8-inch safety followed up a slow time in the 40 at last month’s NFL Scouting Combine with another slow time at the University of Oklahoma’s pro day. He ran it twice — both in 4.83 seconds.

Working in Harris’ favor is that he has an amazing backpedal — it seems as if he can run the 40 backwards as fast as he can run it forward. But as Mike Mayock pointed out on NFL Network’s Path to the Draft show today, Harris might be better suited as a weakside linebacker in the NFL. He had a 4.23-second short-shuttle run and a 7.0-second three-cone drill, more in line with linebacker times. Harris did positional drills as a safety, not a linebacker.

Four offensive linemen who have NFL potential worked out in Norman. Phil Loadholt (6-7 7/8, 332 pounds), Duke Robinson (6-5 1/4, 330 pounds), Jon Cooper (6-2 1/8, 290 pounds) and Brandon Walker (6-2 7/8, 306 pounds) drew three offensive line coaches to the pro day — Detroit’s Pat Morris, Buffalo’s Sean Kugler and Miami’s Dave DeGuglielmo. Vikings head coach Brad Childress and vice president of player personnel Rick Spielman also were there.

 
From Gil BrandtAndre Smith, one of the top offensive tackle prospects in this year’s draft, said he was relying on Alabama’s pro day to make up for the disappearing act he put on at the combine. Well, the first returns are not overly impressive.His best 40-yard dash time was 5.28 seconds and he put up only 19 bench press lifts at 225 pounds. His 40 time would have not been among the top 10 performers at his position in the combine and his bench press reps would have put him well behind the top 10.The rest of Smith and his Alabama teammates’ numbers from pro day will be in shortly on NFL.com.
19 Bench press is pathetic. Didn't pipsqueak Devin Moore post 27 reps?I'll call it now, this Andre Smith ain't gonna sniff round 1, he is fat and lazy. Mike Mayock is going to have a field day with this and we will be hearing him say He will be a Right Tackle or Guard at the NFL level and the demand for those is not that high.
 
From Gil BrandtAndre Smith, one of the top offensive tackle prospects in this year’s draft, said he was relying on Alabama’s pro day to make up for the disappearing act he put on at the combine. Well, the first returns are not overly impressive.His best 40-yard dash time was 5.28 seconds and he put up only 19 bench press lifts at 225 pounds. His 40 time would have not been among the top 10 performers at his position in the combine and his bench press reps would have put him well behind the top 10.The rest of Smith and his Alabama teammates’ numbers from pro day will be in shortly on NFL.com.
19 Bench press is pathetic. Didn't pipsqueak Devin Moore post 27 reps?I'll call it now, this Andre Smith ain't gonna sniff round 1, he is fat and lazy. Mike Mayock is going to have a field day with this and we will be hearing him say He will be a Right Tackle or Guard at the NFL level and the demand for those is not that high.
What am absolute disaster this guy has been. He got momentum going all right - in the wrong direction.
 
From Gil BrandtAndre Smith, one of the top offensive tackle prospects in this year’s draft, said he was relying on Alabama’s pro day to make up for the disappearing act he put on at the combine. Well, the first returns are not overly impressive.His best 40-yard dash time was 5.28 seconds and he put up only 19 bench press lifts at 225 pounds. His 40 time would have not been among the top 10 performers at his position in the combine and his bench press reps would have put him well behind the top 10.The rest of Smith and his Alabama teammates’ numbers from pro day will be in shortly on NFL.com.
19 Bench press is pathetic. Didn't pipsqueak Devin Moore post 27 reps?I'll call it now, this Andre Smith ain't gonna sniff round 1, he is fat and lazy. Mike Mayock is going to have a field day with this and we will be hearing him say He will be a Right Tackle or Guard at the NFL level and the demand for those is not that high.
While this isn't gonna help his work ethic issues, I don't think the 19 reps in a vacuum is going to hurt him. Ryan Clady had less but he also had 36" arms. I'd be very surprised if he falls into the 2nd round like Winston Justice did.
 
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From Gil BrandtAndre Smith, one of the top offensive tackle prospects in this year’s draft, said he was relying on Alabama’s pro day to make up for the disappearing act he put on at the combine. Well, the first returns are not overly impressive.His best 40-yard dash time was 5.28 seconds and he put up only 19 bench press lifts at 225 pounds. His 40 time would have not been among the top 10 performers at his position in the combine and his bench press reps would have put him well behind the top 10.The rest of Smith and his Alabama teammates’ numbers from pro day will be in shortly on NFL.com.
19 Bench press is pathetic. Didn't pipsqueak Devin Moore post 27 reps?I'll call it now, this Andre Smith ain't gonna sniff round 1, he is fat and lazy. Mike Mayock is going to have a field day with this and we will be hearing him say He will be a Right Tackle or Guard at the NFL level and the demand for those is not that high.
Oher did 21 reps, Monroe did 23 - both at the combine. I wouldn't read too much into that number.Guys with DOMINANT film in a conference like the SEC don't fall out of the first. At worst he falls to Shawn Andrews territory - mid-first, but I would still endorse taking him in the top 10.
 
From Gil BrandtAndre Smith, one of the top offensive tackle prospects in this year’s draft, said he was relying on Alabama’s pro day to make up for the disappearing act he put on at the combine. Well, the first returns are not overly impressive.His best 40-yard dash time was 5.28 seconds and he put up only 19 bench press lifts at 225 pounds. His 40 time would have not been among the top 10 performers at his position in the combine and his bench press reps would have put him well behind the top 10.The rest of Smith and his Alabama teammates’ numbers from pro day will be in shortly on NFL.com.
19 Bench press is pathetic. Didn't pipsqueak Devin Moore post 27 reps?I'll call it now, this Andre Smith ain't gonna sniff round 1, he is fat and lazy. Mike Mayock is going to have a field day with this and we will be hearing him say He will be a Right Tackle or Guard at the NFL level and the demand for those is not that high.
Oher did 21 reps, Monroe did 23 - both at the combine. I wouldn't read too much into that number.Guys with DOMINANT film in a conference like the SEC don't fall out of the first. At worst he falls to Shawn Andrews territory - mid-first, but I would still endorse taking him in the top 10.
I'd be cautiously happy if he fell low enough for the Eagles to snag him but with his character issues and work ethic Eben Britton could end up being the better pro.
 
From Gil BrandtAndre Smith, one of the top offensive tackle prospects in this year’s draft, said he was relying on Alabama’s pro day to make up for the disappearing act he put on at the combine. Well, the first returns are not overly impressive.His best 40-yard dash time was 5.28 seconds and he put up only 19 bench press lifts at 225 pounds. His 40 time would have not been among the top 10 performers at his position in the combine and his bench press reps would have put him well behind the top 10.The rest of Smith and his Alabama teammates’ numbers from pro day will be in shortly on NFL.com.
19 Bench press is pathetic. Didn't pipsqueak Devin Moore post 27 reps?I'll call it now, this Andre Smith ain't gonna sniff round 1, he is fat and lazy. Mike Mayock is going to have a field day with this and we will be hearing him say He will be a Right Tackle or Guard at the NFL level and the demand for those is not that high.
Oher did 21 reps, Monroe did 23 - both at the combine. I wouldn't read too much into that number.Guys with DOMINANT film in a conference like the SEC don't fall out of the first. At worst he falls to Shawn Andrews territory - mid-first, but I would still endorse taking him in the top 10.
This is kind of what I was saying on a show this weekend. It's the law of diminishing risk. Too risky in the first five, kinda risky in the second five, moderate risk in the third five - then it's all manageable because the cost is less for a pick back there.He won't make it out of the first, probably not the first half. Still, I'm sure the way things have gone the last month or so probably wasn't the way anyone envisioned it at the end of last season. Been a real domino effect, and not the good kind.
 
I'd be cautiously happy if he fell low enough for the Eagles to snag him but with his character issues and work ethic Eben Britton could end up being the better pro.
I love Britton. I remember thinking it was a great move, his coming out this year. I think the kid has all the tools to be a standout Olineman for years to come. Regardless of what happens with Smith and his personal pre-draft meltdown in progress, Britton is a guy I think should go as a first round pick.
 
From Gil BrandtAndre Smith, one of the top offensive tackle prospects in this year’s draft, said he was relying on Alabama’s pro day to make up for the disappearing act he put on at the combine. Well, the first returns are not overly impressive.His best 40-yard dash time was 5.28 seconds and he put up only 19 bench press lifts at 225 pounds. His 40 time would have not been among the top 10 performers at his position in the combine and his bench press reps would have put him well behind the top 10.The rest of Smith and his Alabama teammates’ numbers from pro day will be in shortly on NFL.com.
19 Bench press is pathetic. Didn't pipsqueak Devin Moore post 27 reps?I'll call it now, this Andre Smith ain't gonna sniff round 1, he is fat and lazy. Mike Mayock is going to have a field day with this and we will be hearing him say He will be a Right Tackle or Guard at the NFL level and the demand for those is not that high.
Oher did 21 reps, Monroe did 23 - both at the combine. I wouldn't read too much into that number.Guys with DOMINANT film in a conference like the SEC don't fall out of the first. At worst he falls to Shawn Andrews territory - mid-first, but I would still endorse taking him in the top 10.
This is kind of what I was saying on a show this weekend. It's the law of diminishing risk. Too risky in the first five, kinda risky in the second five, moderate risk in the third five - then it's all manageable because the cost is less for a pick back there.He won't make it out of the first, probably not the first half. Still, I'm sure the way things have gone the last month or so probably wasn't the way anyone envisioned it at the end of last season. Been a real domino effect, and not the good kind.
There's also risk for teams that need help at OT that pass on Smith - the risk that you're letting an all-pro slip through your hands. Max Starks just got FRANCHISED. Let me repeat that: Max Starks got the FRANCHISE TAG. Supply and demand of offensive tackles is brutal. Guys with Smith's tape are top five picks. He just has a weird top heavy body type and now these off the field questions. Still, you don't get chances to take someone like him very often. He ruled the SEC as soon as he got off the bus. Watch a Bama game and count how many times they run left. I'm working on my mock first (of a full seven rounder) right now, I expect to release it later this afternoon. Smith's placement reflects my thoughts on this issue.PS - I wonder how many of the people who have been heavily knocking Smith over the last month have actually watched him play.
 
There's also risk for teams that need help at OT that pass on Smith - the risk that you're letting an all-pro slip through your hands. Max Starks just got FRANCHISED. Let me repeat that: Max Starks got the FRANCHISE TAG. Supply and demand of offensive tackles is brutal. Guys with Smith's tape are top five picks. He just has a weird top heavy body type and now these off the field questions. Still, you don't get chances to take someone like him very often. He ruled the SEC as soon as he got off the bus. Watch a Bama game and count how many times they run left. I'm working on my mock first (of a full seven rounder) right now, I expect to release it later this afternoon. Smith's placement reflects my thoughts on this issue.PS - I wonder how many of the people who have been heavily knocking Smith over the last month have actually watched him play.
Don't get me wrong, sig. he's amazingly talented. and your point is fair - if Starks got franchised.....Smith is a beast on the field. He will get drafted in the top 15, of that I am reasonably sure.My 'law of diminishing risk' is merely to point out that the longer he drops, the less likely he makes it out of the first round. As you said - every team who is passing on a potential problem is also passing on a potential pro bowler.And so there comes a point - and for me, it's mid first round - where the upside probably outwieghs the risk. Actually, forget probably. Like you said - the tape don't lie.
 
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02/08/2009 - NW Louisiana State Pro day: The official Northwestern Louisiana State Pro Day is on March 19, but one scout showed up on Tuesday, so the school held an impromptu workout. Wide receiver Dudley Guice put up some impressive numbers on the outdoor FieldTurf track. He checked in at 6-foot-2 1/2, 209 pounds and ran a 4.40- and a 4.43-second 40-yard dash. That time would have ranked him among the fastest participants at last month's combine. He also had a 39-inch vertical jump, 10-foot, 5-inch broad jump, a 4.01-second short shuttle, a 6.61-second three-cone drill and 12 bench-press reps. It is also noteworthy that he has 34-inch arms ??? a good measurement for a wideout. - Gil Brandt, NFL.com

 
Andre Smith ran his 40 with his shirt off and was said to be visibly fat and out of shape, I guess we'll have to wait and see what happens in April, I don't think it helped that an anonymous scout referred to him as a "Fat Slob".

 
From the Terps Pro Day yesterday:

"After running the fastest 40-yard dash at the combine (4.30 seconds), he opted not to do workout drills again Wednesday. Instead, he focused his attention on the position drills and he nailed that portion of the workout. He runs extremely smoothly and is adept at catching the ball."

http://blogs.nfl.com/category/pro-days/

"At pro workout, Heyward-Bey puts on show. At least 25 teams and as many as 40 NFL scouts or coaches were on campus to watch 24 draft-eligible Terps get timed, tested, weighed and measured.

Heyward-Bey's agent, Ben Dogra, said the Ravens will visit March 23 to work out the 6-foot-3 burner - and they'll bring quarterback Joe Flacco along to throw to him.

The Philadelphia Eagles have also arranged a workout in College Park, and three more teams - the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, St. Louis Rams and Vikings - have extended invitations to Heyward-Bey."

http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/c...,4952373.story

"At Maryland, wide receiver Darrius Heyward-Bey reportedly put on a show in positional drills."

http://blogs.suntimes.com/bears/2009...d-bey_daz.html

Other notes:

Isaiah Williams ran a 4.38. Williams also had the top time in the 60-yard shuttle in 11.10.

Cornerback Kevin Barnes (Old Mill) posted 40 times of 4.44 and 4.46, and tied Williams for the best vertical jump at 41 inches.

Defensive lineman Jeremy Navarre (Joppatowne) did 36 reps in the 225-pound bench press, the best of the day.

 
Hey

Just did an interview with Fresno State QB Tom Brandstater (you can listen to it here) where he just revealed he has a torn lat muscle. Hurt sometime before the Combine and aggravated during the Combine.

He will NOT work out tomorrow at the Fresno State Pro Day. Bit is at about 12 minutes into the show. I thought I missed somethign but Bloom, Lammey and a bunch of others had no idea either.

We'll see if it matters - project QB anyway, but he was hot off that Combine performance.
From what I've seen in games...HORRIBLE. Add the fact he couldn't put his team on his shoulders, as they wilted throughout the season (especially down the stretch), in a season where they had high hopes going in, and this guy showed me absolutely nothing. He has some of the measurables people get overly excited about, but that's it.
 
Collie flashes skills at BYU Pro Day

Posted: March 11th, 2009 | NFL.com Staff | Tags: Austin Collie, BYU, Ray Feinga

Austin Collie, 24 years old because he went on a Mormon mission while in college, made his mark in positional drills at his workout. He apparently wowed the scouts with his catching ability. The 6-foot-1 1/8, 196-pound wideout ran a 4.53 and a 4.54 in the 40-yard dash and did the short shuttle in 4.07 seconds. He stood on everything else he did at the combine.

Bengals running backs coach Jim Anderson was there to work out in conjunction with RB Fui Vakapuna. He worked out, as all the players did, indoors on FieldTurf and could be more of a fullback in the NFL. He measured in at 5-11 ¼, 244 pounds and ran a 4.83 and a 4.84 in the 40. He had a 34-inch vertical and a 9-foot, 2-inch broad jump, 29 bench press reps, a 4.40 short shuttle and a 7.37 three-cone drill.

Other notable players:

OL Dallas Reynolds (6-4 3/8, 309) ran a 5.34 and 5.28 in the 40, had a 30-inch vertical jump, an 8-foot, 2-inch broad jump, a 5.03 short shuttle, a 7.59 three-cone drill and put up 20 bench presses.

OL Travis Bright (6-4 1/4, 317) did not run the 40 or do jumps. He had a 4.56 short shuttle, a 7.87 three-cone drill and 35 bench press reps.

OL Rey Feinga (6-4 1/4, 329) pulled his left hamstring and only lifted. He had 29 bench press reps

 
MORGANTOWN, W. Va. — West Virginia’s Pro Day has drawn representatives from 25 NFL teams, most to get a deeper evaluation of multi-faceted quarterback Pat White.White did not participate in any of the strength or running drills, choosing to stand on his draft combine performances in those realms.Several teams came here today planning on watching White throw and partake in receiver drills, since he could have to transition to wideout in the NFL. White told me before the field drills started what he has been saying all along — that he planned only to throw, but that he would run routes upon request. Well, after he finished throwing, it turned out that’s all he did. In fact, the majority of the people who were there to watch White left after he threw and weren’t waiting to see him do anything but throw
McShay was just talking about it on ESPN Radio.PW did NOT run any WR routes.Apparently, this did not sit well with some of the NFL scouts who showed up.
 
Chachi said:
From the Terps Pro Day yesterday:

"After running the fastest 40-yard dash at the combine (4.30 seconds), he opted not to do workout drills again Wednesday. Instead, he focused his attention on the position drills and he nailed that portion of the workout. He runs extremely smoothly and is adept at catching the ball."

http://blogs.nfl.com/category/pro-days/

"At pro workout, Heyward-Bey puts on show. At least 25 teams and as many as 40 NFL scouts or coaches were on campus to watch 24 draft-eligible Terps get timed, tested, weighed and measured.

Heyward-Bey's agent, Ben Dogra, said the Ravens will visit March 23 to work out the 6-foot-3 burner - and they'll bring quarterback Joe Flacco along to throw to him.

The Philadelphia Eagles have also arranged a workout in College Park, and three more teams - the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, St. Louis Rams and Vikings - have extended invitations to Heyward-Bey."

http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/c...,4952373.story

"At Maryland, wide receiver Darrius Heyward-Bey reportedly put on a show in positional drills."

http://blogs.suntimes.com/bears/2009...d-bey_daz.html
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Buckeyes proday today. I am wondering how Wells does in the 40, in all honesty it looked like he didn't train or wasn't coached up on the mechanics of running a good 40, if he drops a good chunk of time off I will take that as his true 40 because he stood out as a guy who didn't maximize his 40. We'll see today if this kid was smart enough to get coached up on what would give him a nice boost for his draft stock and his earning potential on a rookie contract. If he goes anywhere in the 4.4's he will be #1 on my RB board regardless of what any other RB does.

 
I found an article on 40 times. Whether agree or disagree, there is some truth to the idea of 40 times is overrated.

http://blog.nola.com/jeffduncan/2009/03/40...a_waste_of.html

LSU's top NFL draft prospects will gather at the school's indoor practice field on Monday for the most important workout of their lives.

One by one, they'll crouch behind a line, coil into a three-point stance and prepare to run for glory.

Forty yards away, an army of scouts will wait eagerly at the finish line, stopwatches poised.

Months of exhaustive training and preparation will come down to an event that takes less time to complete than it does to read this sentence.

Tenths of a second can mean thousands -- and in some cases millions -- of dollars.

And after Monday, the players will likely never run the 40-yard dash again.

That's what's become of the more over-rated, over-hyped, over-emphasized instrument in the NFL talent evaluators' tool box.

The 40 is fool's gold. It's the NFL's version of the driver's test. Pass it once and you're in. After that, you're off the hook.

Jabari Greer was a standout track athlete and football player at the University of Tennessee. Back in 2004, he ran a time of 4.37 seconds in the 40 on his pro day but clocked a sub-par time of 4.5 at the combine.

Two months later he failed to hear his name called on draft weekend and had to settle for free-agent rookie contract with the Buffalo Bills.

How many times has Greer run the 40 since then?

"None," he said.

Not once in five years as an NFL player with the Buffalo Bills.

Never in training camp.

Never in mini-camp.

Never in practice.

And he didn't run a 40 during his free agent visit to New Orleans, where he eventually signed a four-year, $22 million contract as an unrestricted free agent.

In fact, Greer said NFL players would consider it an insult if coaches or trainers asked them to run the 40.

"That's disrespectful in the league," Greer said. "Players would be like, 'I ran that at the combine. I'm a pro now. Football is football."

Yet, year after year, NFL people continue to be hypnotized by the magical numbers, despite evidence to the contrary.

Future Hall of Fame receivers Lynn Swann, Jerry Rice and Emmitt Smith slipped to the bottom of the first round after running slow times in their respective drafts.

And despite those historical oversights, the trend has continued into the new millennium.

In 2003, the Arizona Cardinals selected Penn State wide receiver Bryant Johnston with the 17th pick of the first round after watching him run a 4.37 40 at his pro day. Thirty-six picks later, with the No. 54 pick of the second round, they took Anquan Boldin, a wide receiver from Florida State, who clocked a pedestrian time of 4.71.

Johnson signed a five-year contract that averaged $1.26 million a season. Boldin's four-year deal averaged about half of that annually.

Yet Johnson never nailed down a full-time starting job in Arizona and is now on his third team in three years.

Boldin, meanwhile, went on to win NFL Offensive Rookie of the Year honors after catching 101 passes for 1,377 yards and is a three-time Pro Bowler.

That same year, Terrell Suggs was considered a consensus top 5 pick after setting an NCAA record with 44 career sacks at Arizona State. He slipped to No. 10, though, when he recorded a 40 time of 4.81 at the combine.

Suggs went on to win the Defensive Rookie of the Year award and is also a three-time Pro Bowler.

This year college standouts Michael Crabtree, Malcolm Jenkins, Beanie Wells and Knowshon Moreno are facing similar fates.

Widely regarded as the top cornerback in the nation as a senior at Ohio State and a consensus top 10 pick, Jenkins suddenly saw his stock plummet when he ran times of 4.55 at the combine last month.

"It's funny to me, because you play, and they have four years of film on you, and you're playing corner, and you think you're doing well," Jenkins said, who is now being evaluated as a safety. "And none of that means anything."

NFL folks insist the 40 is but one measuring device in a series of criteria used to evaluate prospects. As much as the hard number, they'll tell you that they use it to judge a player's ability to perform under pressure, to determine his work habits and conditioning.

The 40, Greer said, "is basically a performance."

Whatever it is, it's overrated.

Exhibit A: The Saints receiving corps.

Marques Colston and Lance Moore ran times of 4.55 and 4.52 in the 40 coming out of college.

Devery Henderson and Robert Meachem, meanwhile, blazed times of 4.37 and 4.39. Henderson was drafted in the second round of the 2004 draft. Meachem was a first-rounder in 2007.

Colston, meanwhile, went in the seventh round and Moore was undrafted, although an injury as a senior contributed to his draft demise.

Colston and Moore combined to catch 126 passes for 1,688 yards and 15 touchdowns. Henderson and Meachem had 44 for 1,082 and six scores. The numbers would have been even more impressive had Colston not missed six games with a injured thumb.

"I definitely think it's overrated, and I'm not just saying it because I'm not the fastest guy around," Moore said. "So much more goes into playing football than just running the 40. It's crazy there's so much emphasis is put on something that you're basically going to do just one time."

Indeed, the 40 seems like a waste of time to me.

 
The Arizona WR example above is pretty good evidence about how the 40 yard dash is misused. I saw almost every game that Bryant Johnson played as a PSU alum and there is no way he was a 4.37 guy. That's all about training to run the 40. I also saw a decent number of Florida State games and could tell that although Boldin wasn't fast (I mean, he started as a QB), he was smooth. He just didn't train as well to run the 40 as Johnson. I'm sure that Johnson is faster than Boldin, but not by much with pads on and between the sidelines. That's why I think sometimes it pays to check out the estimated 40 times that some draft sites post before they run in Indy. Anyone running much faster may have just been coached up and anyone running much slower may just have had a poor start or be injured.

 
ConstruxBoy said:
The Arizona WR example above is pretty good evidence about how the 40 yard dash is misused. I saw almost every game that Bryant Johnson played as a PSU alum and there is no way he was a 4.37 guy. That's all about training to run the 40. I also saw a decent number of Florida State games and could tell that although Boldin wasn't fast (I mean, he started as a QB), he was smooth. He just didn't train as well to run the 40 as Johnson. I'm sure that Johnson is faster than Boldin, but not by much with pads on and between the sidelines. That's why I think sometimes it pays to check out the estimated 40 times that some draft sites post before they run in Indy. Anyone running much faster may have just been coached up and anyone running much slower may just have had a poor start or be injured.
I don't agree with the cliche that is going around now about how 40 times are worthless, but you and others do have a valid point that it is easy to overestimate their value and underestimate on field production. This is natural and it is the same reason why NCLB testing and "accountability" has been foisted on public schools--it is easier to compare raw numbers and so having a measure that creates a raw outcome that is easily comparable is desirable.I DO wonder why the NFL doesn't make these guys at least do these tests in pads and holding a football. Couldn't hurt and would give you a better idea of game day speed, which is what really matters.
 
It's 100% irrelevant for WRs - though blazing speed does add a nice weapon for WRs who would be successful anyway.

It's critical for RBs - but still only one piece of the overall puzzle.

 
Derrick Williams ran between a 4.37 and a 4.41.

Aaron Maybin did not participate in the bench press. His first 40-yard dash was mid-4.5 and second was low-4.6. His vertical jump was 40.5 inches and broad jump was 10-foot-10. Maybin weighed in at 253 pounds.

 
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Just returned from California's Pro Day. Alex Mack killed as expected. Sat in a room with 3 scouts afterwards breaking tape down. we had to wait 2 hours to chat with him while he did that. Zach Follet had a hammy injury, didn't do much but lifted 21 times. Mack only did 20 but the long arms m,ake that a reasonable amount. Lots of interest in both.

After Mack finished, 75% of the Scouts left. All 32 teams were there and somewhere in the neighborhood of 50 NFL individuals.

I'll write somethign more up later after I do my show, though I'm sure I will talk about it live. Cecil and Sig will be on tonight incidentally.

http://tinyurl.com/cmor5w

 
Stafford impresses.

ATHENS, Ga. -- Matthew Stafford showed off his strong arm for NFL scouts Thursday, an important step if he wants to realize his dream of being the No. 1 overall pick in next month's draft.

Wyche: Stafford worthy of top pick?

If it were just about any other team, that might be the only question to be answered. But since the failures of Detroit and former general manager Matt Millen made the Lions' approach to the draft appear about as scientific as pin-the-tail-on-the donkey, Matthew Stafford also has to contend with the Lions' draft legacy. More ...

Stafford in NFL.com mock drafts:

» Wyche: Stafford No. 1

» Kirwan: Stafford No. 4

» Davis: Stafford No. 1

» Dukes: Stafford No. 1

» Lombardi: No. 1 (video)

With representatives for each of the 32 NFL teams watching, Stafford completed 45 of his 50 passes to four receivers at the University of Georgia's pro day.

In a script of plays he said he wrote, the quarterback zipped passes to each sideline. He also threw deep routes -- including one completion of at least 50 yards -- and while rolling to his right and left.

The workout was important because Stafford didn't throw at the NFL Scouting Combine last month in Indianapolis.

"I wanted to be able to throw a bunch of balls," Stafford said. "At Indy, you get to throw about 10 to 15, and it was a good chance for me to get out here and throw 50 and let people see."

Stafford didn't give himself a grade but said "I think I did pretty good."

"I missed one or two that I just threw high, but other than that, I think I did well," he said. "This is how well you can throw in your shorts to a guy in a T-shirt with nobody guarding him, so it's important I guess for people to see the physical attributes, but it's not real football."

Stafford is projected by draft analysts as the possible top draft pick by the Detroit Lions. The team had five representatives, including general manager Martin Mayhew, at the workout.

"It was a great workout, a great pro day," said Mayhew, who wouldn't speak specifically about Stafford.

Jacksonville Jaguars quarterbacks coach Mike Shula said he was impressed by Stafford's throws.

"I think he's got a bright mind," Shula said. "I think he's a fast thinker, and I think he has all the tools that an NFL quarterback is going to need to be successful."

The best of the rest

Matthew Stafford was the focal point at Georgia’s pro day, but a few other draft prospects were on hand. Not the least of which was RB Knowshon Moreno. More ...

Shula said Stafford's draft status shouldn't be hurt by not throwing at the combine.

"I think, especially with a guy who supposedly has a chance to be a very, very high pick, it's understandable," Shula said. "I think maybe guys down the line need that. We respect all that. Do we want everyone to work out at the combine? Yeah. We respect that, especially with someone who is in the position he's in."

Stafford was the star of Thursday's workout, but he isn't the only Georgia player expected to be picked in the first round. Knowshon Moreno, who could be the first running back taken in the draft, also attracted much attention while posting times of 4.60 and 4.63 seconds in the 40-yard dash.

"This atmosphere is not really as stressful as the combine," Moreno said. "It was good to get here and be with your teammates. It's more relaxed, but it's still a work day."

Georgia wide receiver Mohamed Massaquoi and cornerback Asher Allen also are projected as possible picks on the first day of the draft.

Even with all the NFL executives on the Georgia practice fields, Moreno noted that Stafford still looked calm.

"He's always relaxed," Moreno said. "He's not feeling any pressure. He knows what his capabilities are."

Said Stafford: "It's been about what I expected. It's crazy, but it's a lot of fun, too."

Stafford said he wouldn't worry about being drafted by a Detroit team that didn't win a game last season, and he already has visited with the Lions.

"I think it'd be an honor to be able to be picked No. 1, and also, I want to get a chance to turn something around," he said. "It'd be a heck of a place for me to be able to go."

When asked what he can bring to an NFL team, Stafford gave a quick response: "A guy who is physically gifted and mentally as well, and I'm a guy that they know what they're getting. I'm going to be the same every day, no matter what's going on around me, and that's accountable."

Stafford was a three-year starter at Georgia before bypassing his senior year to enter the draft. He completed 235 of 383 passes (61.4 percent) for 3,459 yards with a school-record 25 touchdowns and 10 interceptions and was 27-7 as a starter in his career.
Posted: March 19th, 2009 | Steve Wyche | Tags: Knowshon Moreno, Matthew Stafford, Pro Days

All 32 teams were on hand in Athens today to watch Matt Stafford during Georgia's pro day. (John Bazemore / Associated Press)

All 32 NFL teams had representatives on hand in Athens, Ga., today to watch QB Matthew Stafford throw during Georgia's pro day. (John Bazemore / Associated Press)

I’ve been to a few other pro days — even some at the University of Georgia — but I haven’t experienced anything like I did today.

All 32 NFL teams had representatives in Athens, Ga., and some, including the Detroit Lions, Atlanta Falcons, Minnesota Vikings and Seattle Seahawks, had multiple people on hand. Including coaches, players, agents, relatives, university staff and NFL Network’s Mike Mayock and Deion Sanders, over 200 people had to be in attendance.

Of course, the star of the show was quarterback Matthew Stafford, the potential No. 1 overall draft pick by the Lions next month. Stafford piqued so much interest because he didn’t throw at the draft combine, and people wanted to see if the strong arm they witnessed on film is as legit in person. It is.

Helping Stafford prove his point, he threw in breezy conditions, frequently piercing Mother Nature’s attempt to take some starch or aim off some of his passes. Stafford was mostly accurate on the 50 scripted throws. He sailed a few passes over the heads of some of his receivers, but he didn’t do anything to hurt himself on draft boards.

Stafford had the benefit of throwing to Georgia wide receivers Mohamed Massaquoi, Kenneth Harris and Demiko Goodman and tight end Tripp Chandler, who also were working out for NFL scouts. His familiarity with those receivers and the structured environment clearly benefited Stafford. It also showed why some quarterbacks would rather not throw at the combine to receivers with whom they aren’t familiar and under the guidance of coaches they don’t know.

Stafford told me before he threw today that he would continue to train in Athens because the Lions plan to put him through a private workout March 31. Detroit is doing its homework on several players, but Stafford clearly is on the radar.

Tailback Knowshon Moreno, a likely first-round pick, also went through most of his drills, even though he said he lost about seven pounds (he weighed in at 210) after being sick the past few days. He ran about a 4.6-second 40-yard dash, which was consistent with what he did at the combine.

During the workout, Moreno’s agents received a call for him to finalize a private workout for the San Diego Chargers on March 30. The Chargers own the 16th overall pick in the draft.
 
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Harvin

Harvin showcases skills at Florida’s pro day

Posted: March 18th, 2009 | NFL.com Staff | Tags: Cornelius Ingram, Florida, Percy Harvin

Wide receiver Percy Harvin was the headliner at Florida’s pro day today in Gainesville. A slew of wide receiver coaches came out to watch Harvin perform, and Vikings vice president of player personnel Rick Spielman, Panthers general manager Marty Hurney, and Bucs GM Mark Dominik and coach Raheem Morris also were in attendance.

Harvin (5-foot-11 3/4, 193 pounds) did not disappoint. He kept his running-drill numbers from the combine, but he had a 37 1/2-inch vertical jump and a 10-foot, 1-inch broad jump and did 20 bench-press lifts. He looked exceptional in position drills and caught the ball well. He also showed great explosion.

Another player who opened eyes Wednesday was tight end Cornelius Ingram. After sitting out this past season because of a knee injury, Ingram is healthy again and showing it on the field. He ran 4.72 and 4.69 seconds in the 40-yard dash, had a 9-foot, 6-inch broad jump and was sharp in position drills.

Former Florida and NFL player Doug Johnson was the quarterback during receiving drills and did a great job running a scripted workout so scouts could see the prospects catch a variety of different passes.

Here are some other notable players among the 12 who worked out on the grass field:

WR Louis Murphy (6-2 5/8, 207 pounds) ran a 4.45-second short shuttle and a 6.95-second three-cone drill. He ran position drills.

OT Jason Watkins (6-5 3/4, 319 pounds) did 19 bench-press reps, but he kept the rest of his numbers from the combine. He did position workouts.

OT Phil Trautwein (6-6, 308 pounds) ran 5.40 and 5.36 seconds in the 40, had a 27-inch vertical and an 8-foot, 3-inch broad jump and did 23 bench-press reps.

– Gil Brandt
 
Here is my review of Pro Day at Cal. Will be at San Jose State tomorrow. Probably type that up tomorrow night.

May write up more details on both days over the weekend.

If you happen to be on Twitter, follow me at twitter.com/ThunderingBlurb (i think that's how you do it.) and I'll be updating all day like I did for Cal.

It starts at 8am PST - which means with a 2+ hour drive from Sac to San Jose, I'll be up at 5!

HOORAY FOR FOOTBALL......... :lmao:

 
Matt Stafford, meet Calvin Johnson. Time to break some records. :banned:
I'm as big a Stafford fan as you will find around here but can't say I'd be too happy with him landing in Det. If that team doesn't make drastic changes to the Oline Stafford will get killed.
 
Attended San Jose State Pro Day on Friday - here's my report (will also be covered on my Pro Day Rewind Article on Monday at NFLDraftbible.com).

Highlights -

Coye Francies was hot after the Senior Bowl, but since then, Owens has started to overtake him and today may have locked that down. That isn't to say Francies won't make a fine corner in the NFL - he probably will. But Owens is hot.

Owens was faster overall, running a pair of 4.40's in the 40, while Francies was clocked between a 4.59 and a 4.65. Francies stumbled off the blocks multiple times before running a clean 40 and that had to have had a negative impact on his time. Tough to recover once you trip a few times. he's cooled off so much, he may end up underrated.

Owens chatted with Jets Head Coach Rex Ryan (if I can pat myself on the back a moment - that tidbit got me quoted and linked to on Newsday.com!) and they had clearly spoken before. And if Ryan spent anymore time with Jarron Gilbert they might have been engaged. Ryan ran the defensive line drills and spent time with all three players there, but talked mostly to Gilbert. If Gang Green loves him, they'll have to move up to get him though.

Cal-Poly WR Ramses Barden was with a second group of players who worked out after San Jose State finished. Barden blew past his Combine 40 time with times of 4.5 and a 4.58 (I clocked him at 4.48 once but could have been a little quick on the trigger) and had a very good position drill. Enough scouts stuck around for him to go any number of teams - Carolina's John Fox stuck around as well, and Barden could be a fit for them I think.

There's more but that's the high points. Check out the full post for more.

 

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