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I thought I was pretty clear on what made you a bigot. You said a judge who might be gay would be unable to render a fair, detached decision because of his gayness, whereas you were unwilling to assume the same regarding any number of other judges who might be similarly "interested" in the outcome of a decision. That pretty clearly indicates that you think less of a gay judge than you think of a straight judge based solely on the fact that the judge is gay. And that makes you a bigot.

ETA: Here's where the oneohh-Mongol3 silliness about how a gay judge can't possible be impartial starts. They try to backtrack pretty quickly in the face of ridicule before dropping the subject completely.
So if I disapprove of you because you are sexually attracted to sheep, that's bigotry?
Don't feel like defending your earlier statements, I see? Just gonna gloss over that stuff where you thought a gay judge was inferior to a straight judge solely by virtue of his being gay? Probably for the best, I suppose. Why defend the indefensible?Not sure why someone who interest is clearly in changing the subject rather than defending his earlier statements deserves a response, but: yes, it is.
Where do we draw the line, Tobi? If I'm a bigot because I don't agree with person choosing to have sex with an animal (which you said was the same as being gay) I guess I'm a bigot. And how you don't see that it's nearly impossible for a gay judge to rule impartially on a case like this is laughable, though not surprising.
 
And how you don't see that it's nearly impossible for a gay judge to rule impartially on a case like this is laughable, though not surprising.
Since you're the one who has consistently made this charge, please explain which specific aspect of the judge's decision you feel is biased and would have been decided differently by a heterosexual. TIA
 
I thought I was pretty clear on what made you a bigot. You said a judge who might be gay would be unable to render a fair, detached decision because of his gayness, whereas you were unwilling to assume the same regarding any number of other judges who might be similarly "interested" in the outcome of a decision. That pretty clearly indicates that you think less of a gay judge than you think of a straight judge based solely on the fact that the judge is gay. And that makes you a bigot.

ETA: Here's where the oneohh-Mongol3 silliness about how a gay judge can't possible be impartial starts. They try to backtrack pretty quickly in the face of ridicule before dropping the subject completely.
So if I disapprove of you because you are sexually attracted to sheep, that's bigotry?
Don't feel like defending your earlier statements, I see? Just gonna gloss over that stuff where you thought a gay judge was inferior to a straight judge solely by virtue of his being gay? Probably for the best, I suppose. Why defend the indefensible?Not sure why someone who interest is clearly in changing the subject rather than defending his earlier statements deserves a response, but: yes, it is.
Where do we draw the line, Tobi? If I'm a bigot because I don't agree with person choosing to have sex with an animal (which you said was the same as being gay) I guess I'm a bigot. And how you don't see that it's nearly impossible for a gay judge to rule impartially on a case like this is laughable, though not surprising.
I said no such thing, and stop trying to change the subject.

Would it be possible for a married straight judge to rule impartially on this case? After all, we are told that the fight against gay marriage is about protecting the "sanctity" of marriage. By that definition, wouldn't a married straight judge also be unable to rule imprtially?

You seem totally incapable of understanding that your logic could be applied to find fault in a huge number of decisions, possibly the majority of federal Constitutional matters. Yet this appears to be the only case among those in which you and/or mongol3 assume the ruling to be flawed, since you presumably don't automatically disregard the majority of jurisprudence and you haven't bothered to explain yourself when this was brought up before.

Your disregard for this decision based solely on the fact that the judge was gay (without even offering a single critique of the substance of the decision), makes you a bigot, because you make negative assumptions about a gay judge that you've refused to make about married straight judges, or judges who own guns, or judges who have connections to elected officials, and so on and so on and so on. That you can't understand this is laughable, though not surprising.

 
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And how you don't see that it's nearly impossible for a gay judge to rule impartially on a case like this is laughable, though not surprising.
You might gain the tiniest bit of traction with this argument if you would point us to which part of the written decision shows partiality. I forget who said it, but the point was a great one: it's not as though the judge came out of chambers and said "plaintiffs win!" and that was the end of it. He wrote a 136-page decision explaining his reasoning, and anyone who cares to can read that decision and critique it. Please tell us where the decision is flawed.
 
I thought I was pretty clear on what made you a bigot. You said a judge who might be gay would be unable to render a fair, detached decision because of his gayness, whereas you were unwilling to assume the same regarding any number of other judges who might be similarly "interested" in the outcome of a decision. That pretty clearly indicates that you think less of a gay judge than you think of a straight judge based solely on the fact that the judge is gay. And that makes you a bigot.

ETA: Here's where the oneohh-Mongol3 silliness about how a gay judge can't possible be impartial starts. They try to backtrack pretty quickly in the face of ridicule before dropping the subject completely.
So if I disapprove of you because you are sexually attracted to sheep, that's bigotry?
Don't feel like defending your earlier statements, I see? Just gonna gloss over that stuff where you thought a gay judge was inferior to a straight judge solely by virtue of his being gay? Probably for the best, I suppose. Why defend the indefensible?Not sure why someone who interest is clearly in changing the subject rather than defending his earlier statements deserves a response, but: yes, it is.
Where do we draw the line, Tobi? If I'm a bigot because I don't agree with person choosing to have sex with an animal (which you said was the same as being gay) I guess I'm a bigot. And how you don't see that it's nearly impossible for a gay judge to rule impartially on a case like this is laughable, though not surprising.
I said no such thing, and stop trying to change the subject.

Would it be possible for a married straight judge to rule impartially on this case? After all, we are told that the fight against gay marriage is about protecting the "sanctity" of marriage. By that definition, wouldn't a married straight judge also be unable to rule imprtially?

You seem totally incapable of understanding that your logic could be applied to find fault in a huge number of decisions, possibly the majority of federal Constitutional matters. Yet this appears to be the only case among those in which you and/or mongol3 assume the ruling to be flawed, since you presumably don't automatically disregard the majority of jurisprudence and you haven't bothered to explain yourself when this was brought up before.

Your disregard for this decision based solely on the fact that the judge was gay (without even offering a single critique of the substance of the decision), makes you a bigot, because you make negative assumptions about a gay judge that you've refused to make about married straight judges, or judges who own guns, or judges who have connections to elected officials, and so on and so on and so on. That you can't understand this is laughable, though not surprising.
The judge was gay? He was gay? So now you are saying he can turn it on and off? Hardly a positive for someone who thinks gayness is genetic. Look, I've already stated I don't believe gays should be considered a race; which is exactly what's going on here. There's nothing that proves that gayness is genetic. Nothing. You've posted links that all say the same exact thing: maybe. Well, maybe isn't good enough for me. The fact that this case was decided by a judge with personal interest in the case, is a pretty clear sign that he's not the only one with an agenda. I'd like to think that the judges in the country were able to rule impartially, but this situation has left me with a significant amount of doubt, frankly.

And just so you know, me not approving of something another person does or doesn't do, does not make me a bigot, it just makes me an individual. I don't have anything against the gays, I just don't believe them.

 
And how you don't see that it's nearly impossible for a gay judge to rule impartially on a case like this is laughable, though not surprising.
You might gain the tiniest bit of traction with this argument if you would point us to which part of the written decision shows partiality. I forget who said it, but the point was a great one: it's not as though the judge came out of chambers and said "plaintiffs win!" and that was the end of it. He wrote a 136-page decision explaining his reasoning, and anyone who cares to can read that decision and critique it. Please tell us where the decision is flawed.
Every "i" in the 136 page decision was dotted with a little flower.
 
So if I disapprove of you because you are sexually attracted to sheep, that's bigotry?
Should be pretty obvious the distinction between adult homosexuals engaging in a sexual relationship and a man or woman engaging in a sexual relationship with an animal. Animals are not sentient beings and are being abused in the latter, adult homosexuals are sentient and can make the decision for themselves on who they wish to date. You're stretching here. I disagree that constitutes bigotry to disapprove of a predatory relationship, where as disapproving of homosexuality is more likely due to intolerance.The only person trying to draw a relationship between homosexuality and bestiality here is you.
 
The judge was gay? He was gay? So now you are saying he can turn it on and off? Hardly a positive for someone who thinks gayness is genetic.

Look, I've already stated I don't believe gays should be considered a race; which is exactly what's going on here. There's nothing that proves that gayness is genetic. Nothing. You've posted links that all say the same exact thing: maybe. Well, maybe isn't good enough for me. The fact that this case was decided by a judge with personal interest in the case, is a pretty clear sign that he's not the only one with an agenda. I'd like to think that the judges in the country were able to rule impartially, but this situation has left me with a significant amount of doubt, frankly.

And just so you know, me not approving of something another person does or doesn't do, does not make me a bigot, it just makes me an individual. I don't have anything against the gays, I just don't believe them.
At this point you've pretty much stopped making sense. 1. You realize the past tense "was" can refer to the decision, which was in the past, and not the judge's current/past sexuality, which I honestly don't know about and was discussing as a hypothetical.

2. You also realize cases are assigned randomly, right? Are you claiming conspiracy? Do you have your tin foil hat at the ready?

3. The links show conclusively that genetics/biology play a role in determining sexuality. The only question is the extent of the role. Or I guess I should say that's the only question for people with the ability and desire to understand the linked articles and the studies they cite.

4. Finally, I'm not even sure what you mean by "I just don't believe them," although I suspect whatever you meant is hilarious. Putting that aside, "not believing" an entire subset of the population pretty much means you have something against them, does it not? You can't say "nothing against you, I just think you're totally full of ----." Just because you say "nothing against you" doesn't make it so. You get that, right? So, yeah, you do have something against the gays.

 
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Look, I've already stated I don't believe gays should be considered a race; which is exactly what's going on here. There's nothing that proves that gayness is genetic. Nothing. You've posted links that all say the same exact thing: maybe. Well, maybe isn't good enough for me. The fact that this case was decided by a judge with personal interest in the case, is a pretty clear sign that he's not the only one with an agenda. I'd like to think that the judges in the country were able to rule impartially, but this situation has left me with a significant amount of doubt, frankly.

And just so you know, me not approving of something another person does or doesn't do, does not make me a bigot, it just makes me an individual. I don't have anything against the gays, I just don't believe them.
You continue to make this claim without any evidence. Twice now you have been asked, by myself and Thorn, to demonstrate in what way you believe the judge's decision was biased based upon his homosexuality. If you can't do that, you have no credibility in making this claim.
 
Look, I've already stated I don't believe gays should be considered a race; which is exactly what's going on here. There's nothing that proves that gayness is genetic. Nothing. You've posted links that all say the same exact thing: maybe. Well, maybe isn't good enough for me. The fact that this case was decided by a judge with personal interest in the case, is a pretty clear sign that he's not the only one with an agenda. I'd like to think that the judges in the country were able to rule impartially, but this situation has left me with a significant amount of doubt, frankly.

And just so you know, me not approving of something another person does or doesn't do, does not make me a bigot, it just makes me an individual. I don't have anything against the gays, I just don't believe them.
You continue to make this claim without any evidence. Twice now you have been asked, by myself and Thorn, to demonstrate in what way you believe the judge's decision was biased based upon his homosexuality. If you can't do that, you have no credibility in making this claim.
:lmao: I guess common sense goes out the window...
 
Look, I've already stated I don't believe gays should be considered a race; which is exactly what's going on here. There's nothing that proves that gayness is genetic. Nothing. You've posted links that all say the same exact thing: maybe. Well, maybe isn't good enough for me. The fact that this case was decided by a judge with personal interest in the case, is a pretty clear sign that he's not the only one with an agenda. I'd like to think that the judges in the country were able to rule impartially, but this situation has left me with a significant amount of doubt, frankly.

And just so you know, me not approving of something another person does or doesn't do, does not make me a bigot, it just makes me an individual. I don't have anything against the gays, I just don't believe them.
You continue to make this claim without any evidence. Twice now you have been asked, by myself and Thorn, to demonstrate in what way you believe the judge's decision was biased based upon his homosexuality. If you can't do that, you have no credibility in making this claim.
:lmao: I guess common sense goes out the window...
Et tu, Brutis?
 
Konotay said:
I will tell you something I have been holding back. I am not golddigger but I know him and we have an interesting relationship.I will tell you my relationship with him if you tell me who your aliases are ?
I don't know if this offer goes for anyone else, but I will happily out every single one of my aliases right here if it will get you to explain your relationship with Golddigger and how it is that you know many many people in polygamous marriages.
 
I've never quite understood the attempts to deny that homosexuality is strongly influenced by genetic factors. If it's not, it has really, shall we say "interesting," consequences for heterosexuals, namely that people are naturally receptive to homo and heterosexual behavior at birth. The implication is that somehow everyone makes a choice between the two or that upbringing has an amazingly important (more than evidence would ever support) role in the outcome of peoples' sexuality.

I don't know about other heterosexuals here, but I didn't choose anything. I also know that you cannot explain gay behavior on upbringing alone, so clearly there is a substantial genetic factor. The twin studies absolutely verify this.

 
Konotay said:
I will tell you something I have been holding back. I am not golddigger but I know him and we have an interesting relationship.I will tell you my relationship with him if you tell me who your aliases are ?
I don't know if this offer goes for anyone else, but I will happily out every single one of my aliases right here if it will get you to explain your relationship with Golddigger and how it is that you know many many people in polygamous marriages.
I expect after the last little beatdown and snit, that you probably won't hear from him until he fires up a new alias. I'm right less often than a coin flip though so take my opinion for what it's worth.
 
Look, I've already stated I don't believe gays should be considered a race; which is exactly what's going on here. There's nothing that proves that gayness is genetic. Nothing. You've posted links that all say the same exact thing: maybe. Well, maybe isn't good enough for me. The fact that this case was decided by a judge with personal interest in the case, is a pretty clear sign that he's not the only one with an agenda. I'd like to think that the judges in the country were able to rule impartially, but this situation has left me with a significant amount of doubt, frankly.

And just so you know, me not approving of something another person does or doesn't do, does not make me a bigot, it just makes me an individual. I don't have anything against the gays, I just don't believe them.
You continue to make this claim without any evidence. Twice now you have been asked, by myself and Thorn, to demonstrate in what way you believe the judge's decision was biased based upon his homosexuality. If you can't do that, you have no credibility in making this claim.
I asked it of Konotay as well, but he was more interested in discussing his interesting relationships.
 
I've never quite understood the attempts to deny that homosexuality is strongly influenced by genetic factors. If it's not, it has really, shall we say "interesting," consequences for heterosexuals, namely that people are naturally receptive to homo and heterosexual behavior at birth. The implication is that somehow everyone makes a choice between the two or that upbringing has an amazingly important (more than evidence would ever support) role in the outcome of peoples' sexuality.

I don't know about other heterosexuals here, but I didn't choose anything. I also know that you cannot explain gay behavior on upbringing alone, so clearly there is a substantial genetic factor. The twin studies absolutely verify this.
Response. I didn't choose, but they sure did.
 
Konotay said:
I will tell you something I have been holding back. I am not golddigger but I know him and we have an interesting relationship.

I will tell you my relationship with him if you tell me who your aliases are ?
I don't know if this offer goes for anyone else, but I will happily out every single one of my aliases right here if it will get you to explain your relationship with Golddigger and how it is that you know many many people in polygamous marriages.
I expect after the last little beatdown and snit, that you probably won't hear from him until he fires up a new alias. I'm right less often than a coin flip though so take my opinion for what it's worth.
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Not even as good as a coin flip. :hot:

 
There is something extraordinarily pathological about this post. Then it dawned on me, you are very comfortable in telling bold face lies. For example, you are not a Chemical Engineer much less a Chemical Engineer Professor. You have no compunction about making up crap.
It's bald-faced lies, and I'm not lying about my job, sorry. :lol:
When your ready lets talk Chemical Engineering. I have some questions that are easy, but also easy to google so I want you on line.Tell me when you are ready for the test.
 
Look, I've already stated I don't believe gays should be considered a race; which is exactly what's going on here. There's nothing that proves that gayness is genetic. Nothing. You've posted links that all say the same exact thing: maybe. Well, maybe isn't good enough for me. The fact that this case was decided by a judge with personal interest in the case, is a pretty clear sign that he's not the only one with an agenda. I'd like to think that the judges in the country were able to rule impartially, but this situation has left me with a significant amount of doubt, frankly.

And just so you know, me not approving of something another person does or doesn't do, does not make me a bigot, it just makes me an individual. I don't have anything against the gays, I just don't believe them.
You continue to make this claim without any evidence. Twice now you have been asked, by myself and Thorn, to demonstrate in what way you believe the judge's decision was biased based upon his homosexuality. If you can't do that, you have no credibility in making this claim.
:lmao: I guess common sense goes out the window...
When someone backs up their reasoning with a detailed writing, common sense would dictate that one could find the bias in the writing, if it existed. Wait. Did I just try to argue with peens? :lol:

 
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There is something extraordinarily pathological about this post. Then it dawned on me, you are very comfortable in telling bold face lies. For example, you are not a Chemical Engineer much less a Chemical Engineer Professor. You have no compunction about making up crap.
It's bald-faced lies, and I'm not lying about my job, sorry. :lol:
When your ready lets talk Chemical Engineering. I have some questions that are easy, but also easy to google so I want you on line.Tell me when you are ready for the test.
I think I love you, Konotay.
 
There is something extraordinarily pathological about this post. Then it dawned on me, you are very comfortable in telling bold face lies. For example, you are not a Chemical Engineer much less a Chemical Engineer Professor. You have no compunction about making up crap.
It's bald-faced lies, and I'm not lying about my job, sorry. :lol:
When your ready lets talk Chemical Engineering. I have some questions that are easy, but also easy to google so I want you on line.Tell me when you are ready for the test.
This is kind of pathetic, even for an ifued.
 
Look, I've already stated I don't believe gays should be considered a race; which is exactly what's going on here. There's nothing that proves that gayness is genetic. Nothing. You've posted links that all say the same exact thing: maybe. Well, maybe isn't good enough for me. The fact that this case was decided by a judge with personal interest in the case, is a pretty clear sign that he's not the only one with an agenda. I'd like to think that the judges in the country were able to rule impartially, but this situation has left me with a significant amount of doubt, frankly.

And just so you know, me not approving of something another person does or doesn't do, does not make me a bigot, it just makes me an individual. I don't have anything against the gays, I just don't believe them.
You continue to make this claim without any evidence. Twice now you have been asked, by myself and Thorn, to demonstrate in what way you believe the judge's decision was biased based upon his homosexuality. If you can't do that, you have no credibility in making this claim.
:lmao: I guess common sense goes out the window...
When someone backs up their reasoning with a detailed writing, common sense would dictate that one could find the bias in the writing, if it existed. Wait. Did I just try to argue with peens? :lol:
I dont need to mind read the judge, provide links or all this other crap. Its common sense, something they didnt teach you in college....
 
Konotay said:
I will tell you something I have been holding back. I am not golddigger but I know him and we have an interesting relationship.I will tell you my relationship with him if you tell me who your aliases are ?
I don't know if this offer goes for anyone else, but I will happily out every single one of my aliases right here if it will get you to explain your relationship with Golddigger and how it is that you know many many people in polygamous marriages.
I lived next to a polygamous community in Utah. My next door neighbors were polygamous and we became friends. One of the daughters baby sat my daughter. I live in one of his houses as part of one of our business relationships. He did travel a lot but got very sick in India on a humanitarian mission about 2 years ago.
 
I've never quite understood the attempts to deny that homosexuality is strongly influenced by genetic factors. If it's not, it has really, shall we say "interesting," consequences for heterosexuals, namely that people are naturally receptive to homo and heterosexual behavior at birth. The implication is that somehow everyone makes a choice between the two or that upbringing has an amazingly important (more than evidence would ever support) role in the outcome of peoples' sexuality.I don't know about other heterosexuals here, but I didn't choose anything. I also know that you cannot explain gay behavior on upbringing alone, so clearly there is a substantial genetic factor. The twin studies absolutely verify this.
its a matter of degrees and of definitions. if the research says that genetics and environment both play a role and that the interplay of both is what ultimately determines your sexuality, the using the argument that gayness is genetic is false under current knowledge. For example you say that "homosexuality is strongly influenced by genetic factors" but in substance its no different than you claiming that "sense of humor is strongly influenced by genetic factors" and both are factually accurate but lacking the context that what is unsaid here is that both are strongly influenced by non-genetic environmental factors as well. Being a scientist i'm sure you know what I mean.
 
wow, wasnt expecting to see the pwnage in here
A blood bath.
I'm sure that someone will be along shortly to show substantively, quoting from the 130 whatever page document, that the judge has let his gay cooties bias the judgment, all the while showing in detail how this blatant legislating from the bench and overturning the will of millions of people was unconstitutional. :lol:
 
I've never quite understood the attempts to deny that homosexuality is strongly influenced by genetic factors. If it's not, it has really, shall we say "interesting," consequences for heterosexuals, namely that people are naturally receptive to homo and heterosexual behavior at birth. The implication is that somehow everyone makes a choice between the two or that upbringing has an amazingly important (more than evidence would ever support) role in the outcome of peoples' sexuality.I don't know about other heterosexuals here, but I didn't choose anything. I also know that you cannot explain gay behavior on upbringing alone, so clearly there is a substantial genetic factor. The twin studies absolutely verify this.
its a matter of degrees and of definitions. if the research says that genetics and environment both play a role and that the interplay of both is what ultimately determines your sexuality, the using the argument that gayness is genetic is false under current knowledge. For example you say that "homosexuality is strongly influenced by genetic factors" but in substance its no different than you claiming that "sense of humor is strongly influenced by genetic factors" and both are factually accurate but lacking the context that what is unsaid here is that both are strongly influenced by non-genetic environmental factors as well. Being a scientist i'm sure you know what I mean.
From what I've read, you seem to think that genetics play no role in homosexuality. Is this correct?I believe that environment and genetics have roles in human sexuality. However, the role of genetics is the dominant influence. We also know that environmental influences can alter the expression of certain genetic traits. At the heart of homosexuality is genetics, and that's basically indisputable today. Admitting that environment plays a role does not lessen that conclusion.. and it certainly doesn't imply that genetics have zero role.
 
I dont need to mind read the judge, provide links or all this other crap. Its common sense, something they didnt teach you in college....
The irony here is terrific! You don't need to read the judge's mind, because he wrote it all out for you to see!Yo couch, peens! :shrug:

 
Konotay said:
I will tell you something I have been holding back. I am not golddigger but I know him and we have an interesting relationship.I will tell you my relationship with him if you tell me who your aliases are ?
I don't know if this offer goes for anyone else, but I will happily out every single one of my aliases right here if it will get you to explain your relationship with Golddigger and how it is that you know many many people in polygamous marriages.
I lived next to a polygamous community in Utah. My next door neighbors were polygamous and we became friends. One of the daughters baby sat my daughter. I live in one of his houses as part of one of our business relationships. He did travel a lot but got very sick in India on a humanitarian mission about 2 years ago.
Did you live in the compound or on the outskirts?
 
There is something extraordinarily pathological about this post. Then it dawned on me, you are very comfortable in telling bold face lies. For example, you are not a Chemical Engineer much less a Chemical Engineer Professor. You have no compunction about making up crap.
It's bald-faced lies, and I'm not lying about my job, sorry. :thumbup:
When your ready lets talk Chemical Engineering. I have some questions that are easy, but also easy to google so I want you on line.Tell me when you are ready for the test.
I think I love you, Konotay.
Last time I asked a statistical thermodynamic question you answered it with a bizarre quantum mechanics one liner. It was way off base.They I put some biochemical videos and you stated that they would be great to show in class. Biochemistry is used in Biochemical engineering but they have an entirely different take than does the biology side. Again it was way off base.When discussing Chemistry and biochemistry you were completely silent on the issues.If you want to talk about reactor design, heterogeneous catalyst and numerical modeling including CFD I am game. That was the world I lived in.
 
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There is something extraordinarily pathological about this post. Then it dawned on me, you are very comfortable in telling bold face lies. For example, you are not a Chemical Engineer much less a Chemical Engineer Professor. You have no compunction about making up crap.
It's bald-faced lies, and I'm not lying about my job, sorry. :thumbup:
When your ready lets talk Chemical Engineering. I have some questions that are easy, but also easy to google so I want you on line.Tell me when you are ready for the test.
I think I love you, Konotay.
Last time I asked a statistical thermodynamic question you answered it with a bizarre quantum mechanics one liner. It was way off base.They I put some biochemical videos and you stated that they would be great to show in class. Biochemistry is used in Biochemical engineering but they have an entirely different take than does the biology side. Again it was way off base.When discussing Chemistry and biochemistry you were completely silent on the issues.If you want to talk about reactor design, heterogeneous catalyst and numerical modeling including CFD I am game. That was the world I lived in.
This is some good stuff. Keep it coming.
 
When your ready lets talk Chemical Engineering. I have some questions that are easy, but also easy to google so I want you on line.Tell me when you are ready for the test.
:shrug:
He leaves the room every time I as this question.
Mr. Golddigger,I have a proposition for you. Read carefully.I will wager you $10,000 (or any amount of our choosing) that I hold the academic position that I've claimed to hold. If you agree, I will present irrefutable evidence of this and allow Joe Bryant (or any other person we both agree to be fair) to be the impartial judge.Please agree. I like money.MP
 
I've never quite understood the attempts to deny that homosexuality is strongly influenced by genetic factors. If it's not, it has really, shall we say "interesting," consequences for heterosexuals, namely that people are naturally receptive to homo and heterosexual behavior at birth. The implication is that somehow everyone makes a choice between the two or that upbringing has an amazingly important (more than evidence would ever support) role in the outcome of peoples' sexuality.I don't know about other heterosexuals here, but I didn't choose anything. I also know that you cannot explain gay behavior on upbringing alone, so clearly there is a substantial genetic factor. The twin studies absolutely verify this.
:shrug:Just ridiculous.
 
When your ready lets talk Chemical Engineering. I have some questions that are easy, but also easy to google so I want you on line.Tell me when you are ready for the test.
:shrug:
He leaves the room every time I as this question.
Mr. Golddigger,I have a proposition for you. Read carefully.I will wager you $10,000 (or any amount of our choosing) that I hold the academic position that I've claimed to hold. If you agree, I will present irrefutable evidence of this and allow Joe Bryant (or any other person we both agree to be fair) to be the impartial judge.Please agree. I like money.MP
Well this just took an interesting turn.
 

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