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DansRams said:
Todem said:
Doug B said:
Going into a redraft full of risk-takers tomorrow ... pretty confident Foster will go late 2nd round or early 3rd (12 drafters). There are some major services that already has Foster ranked around RB 10-12 ... think he'll climb a few notches after the tonight's action.

Myself .... he looks like a Top-5 RB to me.
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Pre-Season bear traps gotta love them.

Not saying Foster will not be good...top 5 based on a pre-season game.

Unreal.

I will let everyone else take him in round 3...4th round..yeah I would take that chance.

He has done nothing yet.
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Just 6 days ago you said

My $$$ and value based draft approach still has Slaton as the best back to own in PPR on the Texans. I still feel talent always wins out and Slaton is the playmaker and will at some point take the reigns in this offense as the go to RB and the guy who will have the most points in PPR scoring.
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Yeah and your point? I still think Slaton has a shot if a door opens. I admitted Foster looked damm good last night and in the 4th round based on last night...yeah..maybe he is worth a shot. Last night was hands down the best the guy ever looked. Slaton is a must handcuff if you draft Foster and take that chance And the point about Slaton is he is dirt cheap. Foster is getting expensive by the second.

It was a pre-season game. Dallas was g-d awful. The holes were as wide as the Panama canal. I take pre-season with a huge grain of salt.

He may turn out to be this years Ray Rice....but he may also bust.

Who Knows?

 
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timschochet said:
bill bates hits hard said:
Last season, in the middle of all that "will slaten lose his job?" stuff over the fumbles, kubiak was quoted as saying he wished that the texans claimed cedric the year before off waivers. Many in here thought it was just motivation but I think it was sincere. This is the reason I think foster is in line for a big deal. I think he wants a bellcow to run into the ground all season ala cedric. Cewdric was drafted late in the drafts, I don't think he's this years ray rice but maybe a cedric.
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I don't know why not a Ray Rice. Foster gets thrown to. A lot. He's getting a lot of screens, and straight passes as well. He's going to touch the ball a whole bunch. I think sky's the limit for this guy. People keep talking RB2, but he sure looks like an RB1 to me in preseason.
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He may very well turn out as the pick of the year.....but this is the part you really need to be careful about when you take a guy based on that.I have seen that bear trap for over 20 years playing this game.

That's all I am trying to say.

I never have really seen this guy in college. So I don't know much about his talent. Last night he looked sick. No question.

 
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Todem said:
DansRams said:
Todem said:
Doug B said:
Going into a redraft full of risk-takers tomorrow ... pretty confident Foster will go late 2nd round or early 3rd (12 drafters). There are some major services that already has Foster ranked around RB 10-12 ... think he'll climb a few notches after the tonight's action.

Myself .... he looks like a Top-5 RB to me.
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Pre-Season bear traps gotta love them.

Not saying Foster will not be good...top 5 based on a pre-season game.

Unreal.

I will let everyone else take him in round 3...4th round..yeah I would take that chance.

He has done nothing yet.
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Just 6 days ago you said

My $$$ and value based draft approach still has Slaton as the best back to own in PPR on the Texans. I still feel talent always wins out and Slaton is the playmaker and will at some point take the reigns in this offense as the go to RB and the guy who will have the most points in PPR scoring.
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Yeah and your point? I still think Slaton has a shot if a door opens. I admitted Foster looked damm good last night and in the 4th round based on last night...yeah..maybe he is worth a shot. Last night was hands down the best the guy ever looked. Slaton is a must handcuff if you draft Foster and take that chance And the point about Slaton is he is dirt cheap. Foster is getting expensive by the second.

It was a pre-season game. Dallas was g-d awful. The holes were as wide as the Panama canal. I take pre-season with a huge grain of salt.

He may turn out to be this years Ray Rice....but he may also bust.

Who Knows?
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Just wanted to hear ya say it again :lmao: :rolleyes:
 
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Kenny Powers said:
gnarboots11 said:
Judge Smails said:
Bottom line - I've bet my season on him. QB heavy 6 point TD league -went P Manning at 1.11 and then Miles Austin on the swing. This is a shark/money league - nothing gets by these guys. So, my philosophy is if you REALLY want somebody and are especially at one of the swings don't risk waiting. I took Foster at 3.11. He's my #1 RB. I looked at everyone on the board and just think his situation is too good with that offense with no competition. Many people are still ranking him as if Tate were still there. I drafted a bunch of other RB's in the midround to hopefully make it work. But - if he doesn't hit I'm screwed. Calculated risk. Also, TE's are notoriously neglected in our non mandatory TE league, outperform WR2's year after year but slide in our draft. 3 WR start league, so with Manning being automatic and my confidence level in my receiving corps (I'll gladly start Austin/Gates/V. Davis every week) it's all up to my RB's. If Foster hits I think I'll be tought to beat. He wouldn't have been available to me at 5.11.P. ManningFosterLTM. BushRicky WilliamsSlaton (insurance only)AustinGatesV. DavisCelekSaints DGoskowski
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?ouch, peyton manning and 3 TE's? You're super duper weak at WR and even weaker at RB, you would think if you would be weak at 1 of those spots you would be ultra strong at another. That may be the worst fantasy team I ever seen dude. No joke. Better start making some trades.
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I think he's saying he can start TE in place of WR's. In that case, Gates will easily put up WR2 numbers and you would think that 1 of VD and Celek will put up WR3 or better numbers.His team's chances are pretty much what he said, revolves around Foster putting up RB1 numbers. On a positive note, MBush and Williams are IMO good RBs to go after in the mid-late rounds based on the rest of his squad
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It all depends on league scoring and tendencies. With 6 points for all TD's and bonuses at 300 yards, elite QB's win our league, period. Sometimes you do it with a 1st round pick, or you have someone step up in a later round like Rodgers (SB winning team last year). The first 6 QB's went fast. Sorry, I don't want Cutler in round 4 in that format. Antonio Gates and Vernon Davis were top 13 in fantasy scoring in our league last year for combined WR/TE's (can play them as WR's). WR2 is an absolute crapshoot. Seems like 40 guys at 800 yards and 4-6 TD's every year. Stud TE's are more predictable, right around 1000 yards and much better shot at double digit TD's. Antonio Gates had 1157 yards and 8 TD's. Vernon Davis had 965 yards and 13 TD's. Celek had 971 yards and 8 TD's. Look at the stats - those #'s compare very favorably with almost every WR2 in the league, especially regarding TD's. Like I said, I love starting Austin, Gates and Vernon Davis every week. Manning is a STUD in our format. If Foster does as well as we all think, and LT is a much bigger piece of the Jet RB panacea (I'm convinced he will be), then we'll see. I agree with you - it was an unconventional draft, and may not look great on paper. But lots of teams with names on paper don't do squat. I thought from the 11 hole I had to swing for the fences a bit.
 
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Todem said:
DansRams said:
Todem said:
Doug B said:
Going into a redraft full of risk-takers tomorrow ... pretty confident Foster will go late 2nd round or early 3rd (12 drafters). There are some major services that already has Foster ranked around RB 10-12 ... think he'll climb a few notches after the tonight's action.

Myself .... he looks like a Top-5 RB to me.
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Pre-Season bear traps gotta love them.

Not saying Foster will not be good...top 5 based on a pre-season game.

Unreal.

I will let everyone else take him in round 3...4th round..yeah I would take that chance.

He has done nothing yet.
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Just 6 days ago you said

My $$$ and value based draft approach still has Slaton as the best back to own in PPR on the Texans. I still feel talent always wins out and Slaton is the playmaker and will at some point take the reigns in this offense as the go to RB and the guy who will have the most points in PPR scoring.
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Yeah and your point? I still think Slaton has a shot if a door opens. I admitted Foster looked damm good last night and in the 4th round based on last night...yeah..maybe he is worth a shot. Last night was hands down the best the guy ever looked. Slaton is a must handcuff if you draft Foster and take that chance And the point about Slaton is he is dirt cheap. Foster is getting expensive by the second.

It was a pre-season game. Dallas was g-d awful. The holes were as wide as the Panama canal. I take pre-season with a huge grain of salt.

He may turn out to be this years Ray Rice....but he may also bust.

Who Knows?
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Todem, I think you're jaded and trying to convince yourself about Slaton because you own him. If you could trade him for Foster straight up now, you should do it. Although I have a feeling he's going to want a lot more than Slaton.Also, since when is "god" part of the language filter where you need to circumvent it?

 
Todem said:
timschochet said:
bill bates hits hard said:
Last season, in the middle of all that "will slaten lose his job?" stuff over the fumbles, kubiak was quoted as saying he wished that the texans claimed cedric the year before off waivers. Many in here thought it was just motivation but I think it was sincere. This is the reason I think foster is in line for a big deal. I think he wants a bellcow to run into the ground all season ala cedric. Cewdric was drafted late in the drafts, I don't think he's this years ray rice but maybe a cedric.
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I don't know why not a Ray Rice. Foster gets thrown to. A lot. He's getting a lot of screens, and straight passes as well. He's going to touch the ball a whole bunch. I think sky's the limit for this guy. People keep talking RB2, but he sure looks like an RB1 to me in preseason.
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He may very well turn out as the pick of the year.....but this is the part you really need to be careful about when you take a guy based on that.I have seen that bear trap for over 20 years playing this game.

That's all I am trying to say.

I never have really seen this guy in college. So I don't know much about his talent. Last night he looked sick. No question.
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slaton sucks!!
 
Let's deal in the reality of this situation.

Foster has been projected to be the starter almost the entire off season despite Tate being drafted in the 2nd round. Kubiak has been very vocal about Foster being the guy and you wonder if some of that is due to Tate being injured it seemed almost immediately.

While Foster has the starting job you still have to acknowledge that situation could have some fluidity to it. Foster has not carried the ball even in college more than about 240 times in a season. Can he endure a 16 game NFL season and being the lead back in a wide open passing attack that could put him in the 300-330+ touch range, that's a large workload.

Slaton has turf toe and Tate is gone for the season so you have to start to wonder if anyone can even push Foster for playing time right now. Turf toe can be a lingering injury the entire season, it really has put the brakes on many players who have it and then you add in Slaton's off season surgery that he was coming back from.

When do we start kicking around the name Jeremiah Johnson? He is another undrafted rookie who has done pretty well in camp. He is 5-9, 218lb but I'm not sure if that is accurate, I was reading somewhere he was aboit 200-205 but whatever. We are all so excited about Foster and his opp, but can you envision a guy like Johnson getting a crack this season? I own Foster in a few leagues and I like what I've seen but I still cannot imagine him just hammering down the job all season. I would absolutely say in Dynasty that he has reached a peak most owners didn't think could actually happen.

Do you all have any thoughts on Johnson?

 
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Ministry of Pain said:
Let's deal in the reality of this situation.

Foster has been projected to be the starter almost the entire off season despite Tate being drafted in the 2nd round. Kubiak has been very vocal about Foster being the guy and you wonder if some of that is due to Tate being injured it seemed almost immediately.

While Foster has the starting job you still have to acknowledge that situation could have some fluidity to it. Foster has not carried the ball even in college more than about 240 times in a season. Can he endure a 16 game NFL season and being the lead back in a wide open passing attack that could put him in the 300-330+ touch range, that's a large workload.

Slaton has turf toe and Tate is gone for the season so you have to start to wonder if anyone can even push Foster for playing time right now. Turf toe can be a lingering injury the entire season, it really has put the brakes on many players who have it and then you add in Slaton's off season surgery that he was coming back from.

When do we start kicking around the name Jeremiah Johnson? He is another undrafted rookie who has done pretty well in camp. He is 5-9, 218lb but I'm not sure if that is accurate, I was reading somewhere he was aboit 200-205 but whatever. We are all so excited about Foster and his opp, but can you envision a guy like Johnson getting a crack this season? I own Foster in a few leagues and I like what I've seen but I still cannot imagine him just hammering down the job all season. I would absolutely say in Dynasty that he has reached a peak most owners didn't think could actually happen.

Do you all have any thoughts on Johnson?
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Do you feel the same way about Mathews? His top college touches was 287. Fosters was 284.

 
DansRams said:
Ministry of Pain said:
Let's deal in the reality of this situation.

Foster has been projected to be the starter almost the entire off season despite Tate being drafted in the 2nd round. Kubiak has been very vocal about Foster being the guy and you wonder if some of that is due to Tate being injured it seemed almost immediately.

While Foster has the starting job you still have to acknowledge that situation could have some fluidity to it. Foster has not carried the ball even in college more than about 240 times in a season. Can he endure a 16 game NFL season and being the lead back in a wide open passing attack that could put him in the 300-330+ touch range, that's a large workload.

Slaton has turf toe and Tate is gone for the season so you have to start to wonder if anyone can even push Foster for playing time right now. Turf toe can be a lingering injury the entire season, it really has put the brakes on many players who have it and then you add in Slaton's off season surgery that he was coming back from.

When do we start kicking around the name Jeremiah Johnson? He is another undrafted rookie who has done pretty well in camp. He is 5-9, 218lb but I'm not sure if that is accurate, I was reading somewhere he was aboit 200-205 but whatever. We are all so excited about Foster and his opp, but can you envision a guy like Johnson getting a crack this season? I own Foster in a few leagues and I like what I've seen but I still cannot imagine him just hammering down the job all season. I would absolutely say in Dynasty that he has reached a peak most owners didn't think could actually happen.

Do you all have any thoughts on Johnson?
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Do you feel the same way about Mathews? His top college touches was 287. Fosters was 284.
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I don't get this line of thinking. There are less games in college, so you're obviously going to have less carries. These guys aren't starting pitchers where you put them on a pitch/inning count. You run them into the ground (especially Norv).
 
Tuco said:
DansRams said:
Ministry of Pain said:
Let's deal in the reality of this situation.

Foster has been projected to be the starter almost the entire off season despite Tate being drafted in the 2nd round. Kubiak has been very vocal about Foster being the guy and you wonder if some of that is due to Tate being injured it seemed almost immediately.

While Foster has the starting job you still have to acknowledge that situation could have some fluidity to it. Foster has not carried the ball even in college more than about 240 times in a season. Can he endure a 16 game NFL season and being the lead back in a wide open passing attack that could put him in the 300-330+ touch range, that's a large workload.

Slaton has turf toe and Tate is gone for the season so you have to start to wonder if anyone can even push Foster for playing time right now. Turf toe can be a lingering injury the entire season, it really has put the brakes on many players who have it and then you add in Slaton's off season surgery that he was coming back from.

When do we start kicking around the name Jeremiah Johnson? He is another undrafted rookie who has done pretty well in camp. He is 5-9, 218lb but I'm not sure if that is accurate, I was reading somewhere he was aboit 200-205 but whatever. We are all so excited about Foster and his opp, but can you envision a guy like Johnson getting a crack this season? I own Foster in a few leagues and I like what I've seen but I still cannot imagine him just hammering down the job all season. I would absolutely say in Dynasty that he has reached a peak most owners didn't think could actually happen.

Do you all have any thoughts on Johnson?
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Do you feel the same way about Mathews? His top college touches was 287. Fosters was 284.
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I don't get this line of thinking. There are less games in college, so you're obviously going to have less carries. These guys aren't starting pitchers where you put them on a pitch/inning count. You run them into the ground (especially Norv).
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I didn't say I agree. Just asked a question to establish context.
 
Im not sure if this is the thread were i said Foster was talentless, but i am here to eat my crow. While i dont think he is the long term answer in Houston, he has looked better than i gave him credit for. I would still be scared to have him as one of my starting pair of RB's, he looks like he is gojng to make a nice #3 RB with #2 upside. I also gave him a decent boost in my dynasty rankings....more based on what i think he will do this year, but there is a chance he could be around for a couple years.

 
DansRams said:
Ministry of Pain said:
Let's deal in the reality of this situation.

Foster has been projected to be the starter almost the entire off season despite Tate being drafted in the 2nd round. Kubiak has been very vocal about Foster being the guy and you wonder if some of that is due to Tate being injured it seemed almost immediately.

While Foster has the starting job you still have to acknowledge that situation could have some fluidity to it. Foster has not carried the ball even in college more than about 240 times in a season. Can he endure a 16 game NFL season and being the lead back in a wide open passing attack that could put him in the 300-330+ touch range, that's a large workload.

Slaton has turf toe and Tate is gone for the season so you have to start to wonder if anyone can even push Foster for playing time right now. Turf toe can be a lingering injury the entire season, it really has put the brakes on many players who have it and then you add in Slaton's off season surgery that he was coming back from.

When do we start kicking around the name Jeremiah Johnson? He is another undrafted rookie who has done pretty well in camp. He is 5-9, 218lb but I'm not sure if that is accurate, I was reading somewhere he was aboit 200-205 but whatever. We are all so excited about Foster and his opp, but can you envision a guy like Johnson getting a crack this season? I own Foster in a few leagues and I like what I've seen but I still cannot imagine him just hammering down the job all season. I would absolutely say in Dynasty that he has reached a peak most owners didn't think could actually happen.

Do you all have any thoughts on Johnson?
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Do you feel the same way about Mathews? His top college touches was 287. Fosters was 284.
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Hi Dans, my point was that this board seems ready to jump on whoever is the RB1 in Houston, RB3 in New Orleans, so I thought maybe looking past Foster. Foster is already here but what if he ends up getting injured and they go further downt eh depth charts. Houston RBs are not exactly clean bills of health lately. And what if Foster starts fumbling? We know that was a major reason Slaton was shown the bench. How long before Kubiak would give JJ a chance for some playing time?
 
Dynasty Implications - Week 16 Posted 12/22 by Jeff Tefertiller,Arian Foster got the start this week for the Houston Texans but was benched after fumbling on the team's initial drive of the game. Ryan Moats saw most of the touches after the first series. There is only one thing to glean from this game (and the last few). It is that the Texans do not have faith in any of their backs outside of Steve Slaton and will add a ball carrier in the offseason. Who this is will be determined by the team's view of Slaton's role. There are other dynasty prospects in better situations that are worth rostering. Do not waste the space on Foster, Moats, or Chris Brown.
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Ouch
 
My thinking is that anyone who is willing to spend a 3rd or 4th round pick on Foster, would be wise to handcuff Johnson. I don't trust Kubiak as far as I could throw him.

 
Ministry of Pain said:
DansRams said:
Ministry of Pain said:
Let's deal in the reality of this situation.

Foster has been projected to be the starter almost the entire off season despite Tate being drafted in the 2nd round. Kubiak has been very vocal about Foster being the guy and you wonder if some of that is due to Tate being injured it seemed almost immediately.

While Foster has the starting job you still have to acknowledge that situation could have some fluidity to it. Foster has not carried the ball even in college more than about 240 times in a season. Can he endure a 16 game NFL season and being the lead back in a wide open passing attack that could put him in the 300-330+ touch range, that's a large workload.

Slaton has turf toe and Tate is gone for the season so you have to start to wonder if anyone can even push Foster for playing time right now. Turf toe can be a lingering injury the entire season, it really has put the brakes on many players who have it and then you add in Slaton's off season surgery that he was coming back from.

When do we start kicking around the name Jeremiah Johnson? He is another undrafted rookie who has done pretty well in camp. He is 5-9, 218lb but I'm not sure if that is accurate, I was reading somewhere he was aboit 200-205 but whatever. We are all so excited about Foster and his opp, but can you envision a guy like Johnson getting a crack this season? I own Foster in a few leagues and I like what I've seen but I still cannot imagine him just hammering down the job all season. I would absolutely say in Dynasty that he has reached a peak most owners didn't think could actually happen.

Do you all have any thoughts on Johnson?
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Do you feel the same way about Mathews? His top college touches was 287. Fosters was 284.
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Hi Dans, my point was that this board seems ready to jump on whoever is the RB1 in Houston, RB3 in New Orleans, so I thought maybe looking past Foster. Foster is already here but what if he ends up getting injured and they go further downt eh depth charts. Houston RBs are not exactly clean bills of health lately. And what if Foster starts fumbling? We know that was a major reason Slaton was shown the bench. How long before Kubiak would give JJ a chance for some playing time?
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I agree that Johnson should be monitered and even possibly picked up by Foster owners, but doesn't really explain why Foster is such a risk relative to other Rb's. He hasn't shown any health issues and there hasn't been any news of fumble problems in camp (he had the one fumble in the 2nd preseason...nothing reported in practices).
 
HenryMuto said:
Foster just went 15th overall in my $350 WCOFF draft I am right now.
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Not surprised to hear that. Just took him 16th overall (2.4) in the same draft I mentioned at the bottom of pg 3 of this thread. When I made the pick, half the draft cursed under their breaths. A few guys said out loud that Foster wouldn't have been there by my pick in the third.
 
Steed said:
Dynasty Implications - Week 16 Posted 12/22 by Jeff Tefertiller,Arian Foster got the start this week for the Houston Texans but was benched after fumbling on the team's initial drive of the game. Ryan Moats saw most of the touches after the first series. There is only one thing to glean from this game (and the last few). It is that the Texans do not have faith in any of their backs outside of Steve Slaton and will add a ball carrier in the offseason. Who this is will be determined by the team's view of Slaton's role. There are other dynasty prospects in better situations that are worth rostering. Do not waste the space on Foster, Moats, or Chris Brown.
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That was the article that lead me to start this thread last year =/
 
Doug B said:
HenryMuto said:
Foster just went 15th overall in my $350 WCOFF draft I am right now.
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Not surprised to hear that. Just took him 16th overall (2.4) in the same draft I mentioned at the bottom of pg 3 of this thread. When I made the pick, half the draft cursed under their breaths. A few guys said out loud that Foster wouldn't have been there by my pick in the third.
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In those two drafts, who are the notable Rb's he went in front of?
 
DansRams said:
Doug B said:
HenryMuto said:
Foster just went 15th overall in my $350 WCOFF draft I am right now.
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Not surprised to hear that. Just took him 16th overall (2.4) in the same draft I mentioned at the bottom of pg 3 of this thread. When I made the pick, half the draft cursed under their breaths. A few guys said out loud that Foster wouldn't have been there by my pick in the third.
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In those two drafts, who are the notable Rb's he went in front of?
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Going from memory (left draft sheets at friend's house), but Foster was the 8th RB taken. He went ahead of Mendenhall, Mathews, Grant, and a few others.
 
Doug B said:
DansRams said:
Doug B said:
HenryMuto said:
Foster just went 15th overall in my $350 WCOFF draft I am right now.
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Not surprised to hear that. Just took him 16th overall (2.4) in the same draft I mentioned at the bottom of pg 3 of this thread. When I made the pick, half the draft cursed under their breaths. A few guys said out loud that Foster wouldn't have been there by my pick in the third.
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In those two drafts, who are the notable Rb's he went in front of?
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Going from memory (left draft sheets at friend's house), but Foster was the 8th RB taken. He went ahead of Mendenhall, Mathews, Grant, and a few others.
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I really like Foster, but that's a bit much.
 
Doug B said:
HenryMuto said:
Foster just went 15th overall in my $350 WCOFF draft I am right now.
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Not surprised to hear that. Just took him 16th overall (2.4) in the same draft I mentioned at the bottom of pg 3 of this thread. When I made the pick, half the draft cursed under their breaths. A few guys said out loud that Foster wouldn't have been there by my pick in the third.
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Wow.Got this guy in rd 9 of a startup dynasty just 3 wks ago. Just wow.Has anyone seen an increase in value this quickly before? I really can't think of any offhand.
 
Putting this Foster over hype in perspective. I just completed a draft with ONLY Houston Texans fans from our message board and he went 4.3. (12 team 2rb,3wr, flex) as RB2. He has flashed but he is a UDFA with a spotty college career and a couple of NFL starts under his belt.

 
hook014 said:
Doug B said:
HenryMuto said:
Foster just went 15th overall in my $350 WCOFF draft I am right now.
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Not surprised to hear that. Just took him 16th overall (2.4) in the same draft I mentioned at the bottom of pg 3 of this thread. When I made the pick, half the draft cursed under their breaths. A few guys said out loud that Foster wouldn't have been there by my pick in the third.
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Wow.Got this guy in rd 9 of a startup dynasty just 3 wks ago. Just wow.Has anyone seen an increase in value this quickly before? I really can't think of any offhand.
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He has had the perfect storm of increasing value1) a coach completing him thorughout the pre-season2) a well designed offense with above average QB and elite WR3) very good pre-season performance4) High round draft pick gets season ending injury5) the 2nd guy in the RRBC having an injuryAlone any of these increase value, together they spiral his draft position too much. He has gone from a relatively unknown flier with minimal risk to a guy being drafted as though he WILL without question perform as even some guys RB1. As I eluded to in the previous post, even Texans fans have some tempered expectation of him versus what I am seeing in this thread.
 
Talk about a reversal....I just finished my local 12 team redraft.

I drank the kool aid LOL.

I took him at 4.6 and them followed that with Javid Best at 5.5 and Kevin Kolb at 6.6 and Ahmad Bradshaw at 7.5.

I am swinging for the fences in my one and only redraft league.

It will be fun to say the least.

 
The inevitable bumps of this thread throughout the season are going to be annoying as hell to follow. You have the guys who had early drafts and took him late, guys who drafted him in the middle rounds, and the kool-aid drinkers who grabbed him in the 3rd/4th...complete with guys who tried talking people down at each stage. Everyone will be right at some point.

 
I think the real winners are those who snagged him off of waivers late last season in dynasty leagues. I am happy to say I am one of them. I'm certainly enjoying the ride, but I'm tempted to put him on the block and see what kind of haul I can get.

 
Todem said:
Talk about a reversal....I just finished my local 12 team redraft.I drank the kool aid LOL.I took him at 4.6 and them followed that with Javid Best at 5.5 and Kevin Kolb at 6.6 and Ahmad Bradshaw at 7.5.I am swinging for the fences in my one and only redraft league.It will be fun to say the least.
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Hype or no that's a nice string of picks in the money rounds. Not high on Kolb this year but I'm guessing your roster is, at the least, a strong contender.
 
gnarboots11 said:
Things keep going like this and it might be worth dealing the nation while his hype is skyrocketing.
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You know I thought Joe was very polite and civilized when he asked that people not use this nickname earlier today.It was really a small request that some posters not go out of their way to offend others. It's distracting from what we're trying to do here and honestly it makes my eyeballs bleed a little.So I'll ask you nicely to please retire that moniker. Please. And then we can continue to enjoy our hobby.
 
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I think the real winners are those who snagged him off of waivers late last season in dynasty leagues. I am happy to say I am one of them. I'm certainly enjoying the ride, but I'm tempted to put him on the block and see what kind of haul I can get.
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:goodposting: I picked him up off the wire late last year too and rode out the off-season with him and watched in amusement at how his value is over the moon right now. I'm starting to put out feelers in my league to see what I can get for him in a trade but I'm surprised that not many are biting. I'm holding him for now to see if his value spikes after a couple of good showings in the regular season and then I'm pulling the trigger.MOP's thoughts on JJ are interesting though. I've honestly not been paying much attention to him this off-season but should perhaps do a bit of research into him now. It never hurts to be as informed as possible.
 
I have him on my dyansty roster as well...certainly enjoying the set of circumstances that have made him very interesting. The key is figuring out where he goes from here.

 
I think Foster is in a great situation to produce this year, with the high powered Texan offense and what I feel is little competion for touches. He should be given the chance at a high amount of carries, appears to be playing on passing downs and looks to be the goal line back. With all that said, I just watched the Texan / Cowboy game, and while Foster had room to run (O-Line appeared good) he does not look like a special talent in any way to me. Seems to run with decent power, but doesn't look all that fast, has limited moves and nothing he does jumps off the screen. He does appear to catch the ball well, but he just seems to get what is there. Something the announcers said the coaches like about him.

I watched this game hoping Foster would show me something special, but it did not happen. I think he can be pretty good due to situation alone, and sometimes that's enough for a guy to productive.

On a side note after that game I watched the Balt / NYG game, and it looked like R. Rice was running in fast forward.

 
hook014 said:
gnarboots11 said:
Things keep going like this and it might be worth dealing the nation while his hype is skyrocketing.
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You know I thought Joe was very polite and civilized when he asked that people not use this nickname earlier today.It was really a small request that some posters not go out of their way to offend others. It's distracting from what we're trying to do here and honestly it makes my eyeballs bleed a little.So I'll ask you nicely to please retire that moniker. Please. And then we can continue to enjoy our hobby.
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Being offensive in the FBG's forum seems like it can be a whole lot worse than this... Some people need to lighten up a bit. There are much worse fires that could use a dousing around here.. Just a silly nickname...Sometimes people use the word offensive and the idea of being politically correct to control others... I'd really like to meet the guy who's truly offended buy this... Obviously this isn't intended to bother or harm anyone, save the outrage for people who are actually trying to offend, you won't have a hard time finding one around here...
 
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Hi,You were specifically asked via PM to stop referring to Arian Foster as "Arian Nation," and you just changed to "the nation". You know that isn't acceptable either. When you come back, please don't do it again.

Clayton

 
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Are any Foster owners considering trading him in dynasty leagues? While i will say he looks a little better than i originally gave him credit for, his value is tied to his situation far more than his talent. Sounds like the perfect time to trade him.

I truly cant believe people are taking him in the 2nd round of redrafts and giving him nicknames already.

 
4 - Digit Shark said:
I think Foster is in a great situation to produce this year, with the high powered Texan offense and what I feel is little competion for touches. He should be given the chance at a high amount of carries, appears to be playing on passing downs and looks to be the goal line back. With all that said, I just watched the Texan / Cowboy game, and while Foster had room to run (O-Line appeared good) he does not look like a special talent in any way to me. Seems to run with decent power, but doesn't look all that fast, has limited moves and nothing he does jumps off the screen. He does appear to catch the ball well, but he just seems to get what is there. Something the announcers said the coaches like about him.I watched this game hoping Foster would show me something special, but it did not happen. I think he can be pretty good due to situation alone, and sometimes that's enough for a guy to productive.On a side note after that game I watched the Balt / NYG game, and it looked like R. Rice was running in fast forward.
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I think it's a pretty fair assessment that he gets what is there but isn't exceptional in elusiveness, speed, etc.But I also think he has shown very good vision and that is a big part of him getting what is there. Not just spotting an open hole, but there were some examples of him slowing down to let the play develop in front of him until a hole could open up, and then hitting it. He's a patient runner.I think the Texans one-cut-and-go offensive system is a good fit for someone like that. But if a D-line is beating the Texans O-line I won't expect him to get much.Edit to add: Oh, and I disagree about competition for touches. Kubiak is going to give a 2nd RB touches as long as there is anyone of middling competence to do so. Even if Slaton's turf toe is an issue keeping him out, I think Henry and/or Jeremiah Johnson will get an opportunity to take over his share of the carries, and they'll only go to Foster if he shows he is something very special, or if Henry/Johnson show they just aren't capable compliments to him.
 
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J-Dawg said:
thatguy said:
I think the real winners are those who snagged him off of waivers late last season in dynasty leagues. I am happy to say I am one of them. I'm certainly enjoying the ride, but I'm tempted to put him on the block and see what kind of haul I can get.
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:thumbup: I picked him up off the wire late last year too and rode out the off-season with him and watched in amusement at how his value is over the moon right now. I'm starting to put out feelers in my league to see what I can get for him in a trade but I'm surprised that not many are biting. I'm holding him for now to see if his value spikes after a couple of good showings in the regular season and then I'm pulling the trigger.MOP's thoughts on JJ are interesting though. I've honestly not been paying much attention to him this off-season but should perhaps do a bit of research into him now. It never hurts to be as informed as possible.
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No need for waivers in my dynasty league I had last year as I drafted him 47th overall in my rookie draft he sat on my taxi squad until I plucked him off and started him in my fantasy bowl and he was the difference in winning my CFL championship.
 
GregR said:
4 - Digit Shark said:
I think Foster is in a great situation to produce this year, with the high powered Texan offense and what I feel is little competion for touches. He should be given the chance at a high amount of carries, appears to be playing on passing downs and looks to be the goal line back. With all that said, I just watched the Texan / Cowboy game, and while Foster had room to run (O-Line appeared good) he does not look like a special talent in any way to me. Seems to run with decent power, but doesn't look all that fast, has limited moves and nothing he does jumps off the screen. He does appear to catch the ball well, but he just seems to get what is there. Something the announcers said the coaches like about him.

I watched this game hoping Foster would show me something special, but it did not happen. I think he can be pretty good due to situation alone, and sometimes that's enough for a guy to productive.

On a side note after that game I watched the Balt / NYG game, and it looked like R. Rice was running in fast forward.
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I think it's a pretty fair assessment that he gets what is there but isn't exceptional in elusiveness, speed, etc.But I also think he has shown very good vision and that is a big part of him getting what is there. Not just spotting an open hole, but there were some examples of him slowing down to let the play develop in front of him until a hole could open up, and then hitting it. He's a patient runner.

I think the Texans one-cut-and-go offensive system is a good fit for someone like that. But if a D-line is beating the Texans O-line I won't expect him to get much.

Edit to add: Oh, and I disagree about competition for touches. Kubiak is going to give a 2nd RB touches as long as there is anyone of middling competence to do so. Even if Slaton's turf toe is an issue keeping him out, I think Henry and/or Jeremiah Johnson will get an opportunity to take over his share of the carries, and they'll only go to Foster if he shows he is something very special, or if Henry/Johnson show they just aren't capable compliments to him.
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You probably follow the situation closer then I, so how do you see the carries being split?
 
thatguy said:
I think the real winners are those who snagged him off of waivers late last season in dynasty leagues. I am happy to say I am one of them. I'm certainly enjoying the ride, but I'm tempted to put him on the block and see what kind of haul I can get.
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Hey guy :thumbup:
 
thatguy said:
I think the real winners are those who snagged him off of waivers late last season in dynasty leagues. I am happy to say I am one of them. I'm certainly enjoying the ride, but I'm tempted to put him on the block and see what kind of haul I can get.
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That's about where I'm at but I see it as a chance to have a guy who could be solid behind the all stars, guys who have Chris Johnson, Cedric Benson, DeAngelo...if Foster is your RB4 or RB5 is it really a big deal to try and move him? He's not hurting you in any way. If somehow in Dynasty though he is your best prospect at RB I might be more tempted to move him quickly.
 
Go deep said:
Are any Foster owners considering trading him in dynasty leagues? While i will say he looks a little better than i originally gave him credit for, his value is tied to his situation far more than his talent. Sounds like the perfect time to trade him.I truly cant believe people are taking him in the 2nd round of redrafts and giving him nicknames already.
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In your opinion, how different is he in talent from a R Grant (UDFA)? The situation Foster is in is at least as good. Clearly Grant has proven more, but is most of that situation over talent? I don't think anyone would describe him as elite talent. To my initial question, if the talent is somewhat similar and the situation is as good or better, how could you get Grant value right now? Grant is still going in the RB15-20 range in Dyanasty land and 9-14 in redraft (a little lower in redraft). IMO, the irony of the Foster hype train is that I think he will be valued even higher in 7-8 weeks. The main gap between he and Grant is the "prove it to me" factor. If he has numbers equal to close to Grannt 6 weeks into the season, and is the younger RB (23 versus 27), what makes you think it (his value)won't go higher? The question you have to ask yourself is, can he produce at a R Grant level to begin the season? His schedule is Ind, Wash, Dallas, Oak, NYG, KC...certainly not a a schedule. Then he has a bye in week 7 (trade time?) Maybe
 
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