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Browns release James Davis (1 Viewer)
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over/under is 4.
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Kool-Aid Larry
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did he mention if it was an nfl team?
Chimp Magnet
Footballguy
Said he just flew in to Atlanta and now he's gotta fly back out. Scratch them off the list.
Hoss_Cartwright
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Redskins signed RB James Davis to their practice squad.
He joins Jeremiah Johnson, who was added to the practice squad Tuesday. Either back has to potential to be added to the active roster at some point, and given Ryan Torain's injury history, that's worth noting.
He joins Jeremiah Johnson, who was added to the practice squad Tuesday. Either back has to potential to be added to the active roster at some point, and given Ryan Torain's injury history, that's worth noting.
Couch Potato
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Hoss is quoting Rotoworld by the way (someone here was bound to ask for a source).
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fatness
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The Redskins will be signing him today. From beat reporter Rick Maese at the Washington Post.
DawgPoundNJ
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I never, ever understood the hype surrounding this guy.
Is Jeremiah Johnson the Johnson that was Rudy Johnson's fullback?
Redskins signed RB James Davis to their practice squad.
He joins Jeremiah Johnson, who was added to the practice squad Tuesday. Either back has to potential to be added to the active roster at some point, and given Ryan Torain's injury history, that's worth noting.
I recently posted that the also added Jermiah Johnson as well- so what is the better speculative piuck up as a possible handcuff to Torain
Kencav
He joins Jeremiah Johnson, who was added to the practice squad Tuesday. Either back has to potential to be added to the active roster at some point, and given Ryan Torain's injury history, that's worth noting.
I recently posted that the also added Jermiah Johnson as well- so what is the better speculative piuck up as a possible handcuff to Torain
Kencav
Warhogs
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First off, any living breathing RB always gets hype because in most leagues it is the most valuable position. The hype stems from his rookie preseason where he was looking very good and looked like hehe had a chance to become the main guy in Cleveland until he got hurt in practice early on in the season. This guy also put up some very good college numbers his junior season. I think there is as much reason to hold out hope for him as there is for any other young RB sitting on an NFL practice squad.
BalcoBomber
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At this point, with the cloudiness of RB's behind Torain (Keiland Williams, Jermiah Johnson, James David and Portis potentially coming back in week 10, is it even worth carrying a handcuff for Torain?? Or should we be looking to roster a better/clearer handcuff like a Derrek Ward or a Deji Karim?Redskins signed RB James Davis to their practice squad.He joins Jeremiah Johnson, who was added to the practice squad Tuesday. Either back has to potential to be added to the active roster at some point, and given Ryan Torain's injury history, that's worth noting. I recently posted that the also added Jermiah Johnson as well- so what is the better speculative piuck up as a possible handcuff to TorainKencav
DoubleG
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I find, given history, that you will likely be better off trading Torrain after the Lions game, thus eliminating the entire "guess which RB Shanny likes this week" dilemna. Torain's injury history gives me pause - the fact that he is playing for Shannahan who is known to play musical RB (especially if Torain continues to fumble or gets dinged), makes the concern more than double (the concerns dont add up - they multiply...exponentially)At this point, with the cloudiness of RB's behind Torain (Keiland Williams, Jermiah Johnson, James David and Portis potentially coming back in week 10, is it even worth carrying a handcuff for Torain?? Or should we be looking to roster a better/clearer handcuff like a Derrek Ward or a Deji Karim?Redskins signed RB James Davis to their practice squad.He joins Jeremiah Johnson, who was added to the practice squad Tuesday. Either back has to potential to be added to the active roster at some point, and given Ryan Torain's injury history, that's worth noting. I recently posted that the also added Jermiah Johnson as well- so what is the better speculative piuck up as a possible handcuff to TorainKencav
You have anything intellegent to add to this thread or can you only post at your nap time James Davis will take Jeremiah Johnson's spot on the Redskins practice squad.That was short-lived, as Johnson was signed less than 12 hours ago. The Redskins evidently like the upside of Davis more than that of Johnson. So much for JJ
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fred_1_15301
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<_< Kind of harsh response to Bri's innocuous post don't you think?
well I can spell intelligent and would post whatever I felt pertinent. I had asked for some feedback from those that touted Davis in Cleveland. Haven't heard any.Sorry thanking someone without quoting a long post seems to have offended you.
Shutout
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I know I'm going to get burned to the ground for saying this so I'll try to just take it, BUT:
I see James Davis as having a very similar style/ability as TERRELL Davis. I know, people will just gag and choke when they read this but if you really take a look at the two and envision how James Davis could possibly fit into that Shanahan running system, you might just be looking at next year's Arian Foster ( don't expect Davis to be much help this year).
FWIW (and I know, its not much), this same type of thinking is exactly how I got Foster off waivers on my dynasty team last year. I saw the same correlation with the skill sets and thought of how useful he might be and I put him on the team. I'm really happy right now. I may be crazy. I probably AM biased because it worked so well last year, but, if you got a spot to stash him and you're willing to swing for the fences, that's my advice.
I see James Davis as having a very similar style/ability as TERRELL Davis. I know, people will just gag and choke when they read this but if you really take a look at the two and envision how James Davis could possibly fit into that Shanahan running system, you might just be looking at next year's Arian Foster ( don't expect Davis to be much help this year).
FWIW (and I know, its not much), this same type of thinking is exactly how I got Foster off waivers on my dynasty team last year. I saw the same correlation with the skill sets and thought of how useful he might be and I put him on the team. I'm really happy right now. I may be crazy. I probably AM biased because it worked so well last year, but, if you got a spot to stash him and you're willing to swing for the fences, that's my advice.
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Couch Potato
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I'm guessing that, since your "thanks doowain" post followed kencav's post, he didn't realize doowain was an actual poster name up above, and thought you were sarcastically "thanking" kencav for his post, interpreting "doowain" as some sort of name calling.It's the only thing I can come up with for his bizarre reply to you. To kencav -- Bri is a loooooong time poster here, is one of the most decent posters on the board, and never has a bad word for anybody. Your response, even if you (erroneously) felt slighted, doesn't fly on this board. We should be treating people with respect here.
In fact I did think it to be a snide remark1,000 apologies to Bri, and thanks for teaching me to spell "intelligent"
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Couch Potato
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Group hug.
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Matt Waldman
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I'd argue that Cleveland under Eric Mangini's influence (yes, I realize Holmgren has a lot since he arrived at the end of last year) hasn't shown a fantastic track record with gauging or using talent. He was resistant to use Jerome Harrison until he had to and Harrison had a great stretch of performances last year. He has been slow to use Joshua Cribbs as a receiver and he still might be the best they have - even as raw as he is.It's highly possible he had a strong influence with taking Mo Massaquoi and Brian Robiskie and neither have been very promising thus far. And why not bring up the fresh start angle if you can flesh it out a little more? That injury grievance issue eroded the trust between Davis, his coach, and the Browns organization. There's a difference between feeling like you're getting used up in a way that is just part of the game and a team taking unnecessary risks with you on a practice field (much less a locker room with Staph issues). It's quite conceivable Davis is a talented player that didn't have the maturity to handle that kind of rancor he feels for the organization and coach and still play well. In fact, I think few individuals do. LaGarette Blount has been judged by some as too big, too slow, too upright, too inexperienced with pass protection, and too thuggish to make in the NFL and he's with his third team in six months. Last week there were people publishing one-liner conclusions on MFL.com news that Blount was essentially a wasted pick. My greatest concern with Davis is whether he has the acceleration to be more than a situational runner. I thought he was a smart, powerful, runner with good vision at Clemson - a more mature runner than C.J. Spiller, but he lacked big-play ability that can change the game immediately and get fans, sponsors, and media drooling to see him like Spiller's game does. He's worth a look if you have room, IMO.
Matt Waldman
Footballguy
I agree. I just think he needs to show he has the burst to take his game to the next level. Davis wasn't a special athlete but he was a special talent due to his intelligence, vision, work ethic, and aggressiveness. He had the mentality of a killer on the field. We'll hopefully learn whether Davis has that kind of promise, but the natural skills to be a quality running back is there on several conceptual levels.
"Sold me" with your replies Matt, thanks.Shutout, the way you worded your post makes me think it's a trap. You won the lottery once and are trying to again. I realize that's a contradiction to liking what Matt had to say, just feel compelled to point that out.
DawgPoundNJ
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Banging off a 4 game win streak with possibly the worst team in history to ever win four in a row is a testament to how Mangini uses talent. Harrison didn't have the work ethic or practice habits that Mangini was looking for as per Grossi from the Plain Dealer and Jim Donovan (can't link- last week's Browns Town). Let's call it like it is- James Davis is a flier pick that each team passed up on multiple times. He may eventually be a role player- but bashing Mangini for cutting loose a 6th round pick is out of line. Davis has done nothing to deserve the seat on the pedestal that everyone is giving him. There are plenty of more things to pick on Mangini for.Matt Waldman said:
I have never seen a coach outsmart themself like Mangini does. Start with that Romeo and BB pretty much told him what he likes in a player and taught him why. Now it took Romeo years to build his team so Mangini comes in and gets rid of half the world. Next he brings in 10k Jets to replace even more Browns calling them "his guys" and yet how many are still there? Everything about Josh Cribbs-I mean everything, shows Mangini outsmarting himself. His struggles have led to doubt which has also caused him to question his own decisions like on who to start.I think it was (RIP) John Butler that once pointed out that you can tell how good a team really is by whether the other teams are chomping at the bit to pickup the guys they waive. Harrison and Davis found teams, but if you look at Mangini's tenure there is an inexplicably large number of players that are just done with football. It's gotta make you wonder "Why did this guy play for the Browns for X years then?" Shouldn't their starters at least be depth on another team?Schwartz (who also learned under BB and maybe Romeo before Fisher) made this point with many Lions and some of these veterans knew it was true and rededicated themself. McDaniels thrives then fails thrives then fails, he's clearly learning. KC improved tenfold when they got more NE coaches in there that would simply teach the game in an all too familiar way to Mangini too.Ya know what, I agree I don't know how Mangini pulled that win streak off other than that the guy is extremely smart and clever. Still, he doesn't make progress! Eventually you have to make a decision and move on to the next. Everything with this guy is one step forward two steps back and he'll be lucky if Holmgren keeps him around in 2011.
Shutout
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That's fair and point taken. I guess it did come across like that but to be honest, the reason I added that to the thought was simply because I know its a pretty bold statement to make and I know how a lot of people seem to take bold statements on these forums and ridicule them so much and pile on that the original post gets buried.So, I felt a little compelled to explain where the thought came from and give an example of how it did actually work before. I know its natural for people to have the thought that people who picked up foster last year won the lottery, got lucky, or found the proverbial bone, but a lot of thought/study went into making that pickup last year for me (and I'm sure with others too). In my leagues, roster spots are a premium and not taken likely. You don't waste them on players you are tossing spaghetti onto a wall and seeing what sticks. Anyway, just trying to let people know there WAS some thought in comparing these guys and trying to envision how it may be a good pickup.Bri said:
DawgPoundNJ
Footballguy
Honestly, man, I do not understand one word of this post. Mangini wasn't exactly inheriting a dynasty when he took over for Romeo. If you're talking about getting rid of "half the world" by dumping off Winslow and Edwards, tell me, would the Browns have had more than a 5-11 record with those guys? Is it the right thing to do to give a playmaking TE on horrible knees an exhorbitant long-term contract with a lot of guaranteed money? Is it the right thing to do to keep a diva receiver who was turning into a locker room cancer that also had trouble with the law? Please break down your statement about Cribbs. I don't understand that either. As for players Mangini cut ending up on other teams, Brandon McDonald comes to mind but honestly I don't want to see players we cut ending up performing well on other teams. That means that the Browns couldn't get the best out of them and that falls on the coaching staff. So I'm pleased as all heck if I never see any of the guys we cut again. One that pisses me off is Romeo letting Lance Moore go. Now Holmgren and Heckert are in charge personnel-wise now. But hasn't this team been darn competitive this season? The #1 QB was injured in the first game, yet we have had a shot to win in every game we lost. Even in the Pittsburgh game with Colt McCoy starting, they were only down by 4 at the half. That, my friend, is progress. And good coaching not just by Mangini but the whole staff.
