Screw Expert Rankings! (1 Viewer)

Next to experts rankings, there should be a disclaimer ''for entertainment purposes only''

Had 2 coinflips last weekend for my High Stakes Fantasy Championship Game...

For my 3rd WR(required) the choice was Royal vs Bennet. For TE: M Lewis vs Hernandez,

Consulted rankings by the 2 main experts on FBG , also used expert rankings from some of the top 'experts' in FF.

Not one expert had Bennett ranked higher than Royal. In fact, Royal's avg ranking was in the low 30s (Sigmund had him in the teens), while Bennett's was low 50s. As for TE, Lewis avg ranking was 7, Hernandez 17. Noone had Hernandez higher than Marcedes.

Results: Bennett, 17 pts. Royal 3 pts

Hernandez 16 pts, Lewis 6.6 pts

I know i'm ultimately responsible for my lineup decisions. My fault for putting so much faith in the so-called experts.

My suggestion to you guys is to find another way to break the tie than to consult rankings..which are very arbitrary.

You've got to trust yourself and your knowledge of football to go out on a limb and make decisions accordingly

LAbronco said:

Next to experts rankings, there should be a disclaimer ''for entertainment purposes only''Had 2 coinflips last weekend for my High Stakes Fantasy Championship Game...For my 3rd WR(required) the choice was Royal vs Bennet. For TE: M Lewis vs Hernandez,Consulted rankings by the 2 main experts on FBG , also used expert rankings from some of the top 'experts' in FF.Not one expert had Bennett ranked higher than Royal. In fact, Royal's avg ranking was in the low 30s (Sigmund had him in the teens), while Bennett's was low 50s. As for TE, Lewis avg ranking was 7, Hernandez 17. Noone had Hernandez higher than Marcedes. Results: Bennett, 17 pts. Royal 3 pts Hernandez 16 pts, Lewis 6.6 ptsI know i'm ultimately responsible for my lineup decisions. My fault for putting so much faith in the so-called experts. My suggestion to you guys is to find another way to break the tie than to consult rankings..which are very arbitrary. You've got to trust yourself and your knowledge of football to go out on a limb and make decisions accordingly

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in before the shirt

"ranking slave"

LAbronco said:

Next to experts rankings, there should be a disclaimer ''for entertainment purposes only''Had 2 coinflips last weekend for my High Stakes Fantasy Championship Game...For my 3rd WR(required) the choice was Royal vs Bennet. For TE: M Lewis vs Hernandez,Consulted rankings by the 2 main experts on FBG , also used expert rankings from some of the top 'experts' in FF.Not one expert had Bennett ranked higher than Royal. In fact, Royal's avg ranking was in the low 30s (Sigmund had him in the teens), while Bennett's was low 50s. As for TE, Lewis avg ranking was 7, Hernandez 17. Noone had Hernandez higher than Marcedes. Results: Bennett, 17 pts. Royal 3 pts Hernandez 16 pts, Lewis 6.6 ptsI know i'm ultimately responsible for my lineup decisions. My fault for putting so much faith in the so-called experts. My suggestion to you guys is to find another way to break the tie than to consult rankings..which are very arbitrary. You've got to trust yourself and your knowledge of football to go out on a limb and make decisions accordingly

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You didn't understand that this was for entertainment purposes only?Climb into a crib and suck on a bottle of warm milk for a while and come back to us when...you turn 18.

LAbronco said:

Next to experts rankings, there should be a disclaimer ''for entertainment purposes only''

Had 2 coinflips last weekend for my High Stakes Fantasy Championship Game...

For my 3rd WR(required) the choice was Royal vs Bennet. For TE: M Lewis vs Hernandez,

Consulted rankings by the 2 main experts on FBG , also used expert rankings from some of the top 'experts' in FF.

Not one expert had Bennett ranked higher than Royal. In fact, Royal's avg ranking was in the low 30s (Sigmund had him in the teens), while Bennett's was low 50s. As for TE, Lewis avg ranking was 7, Hernandez 17. Noone had Hernandez higher than Marcedes.

Results: Bennett, 17 pts. Royal 3 pts

Hernandez 16 pts, Lewis 6.6 pts

I know i'm ultimately responsible for my lineup decisions. My fault for putting so much faith in the so-called experts.

My suggestion to you guys is to find another way to break the tie than to consult rankings..which are very arbitrary.

You've got to trust yourself and your knowledge of football to go out on a limb and make decisions accordingly

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I tell myself this every week. Sometimes it works, sometimes not. But I sleep well at night when i take ownership of my starting lineup.

15 yrs ago I lost a big matchup using other peoples opinions and I was miserable. Haven't done it since and neither should you.

fridayfrenzy said:

"ranking slave"

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If they ban LAbronco from the site does that mean he will have his four year old daughter begin posting ...

LAbronco said:

I know i'm ultimately responsible for my lineup decisions.

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LAbronco said:

My suggestion to you guys is to find another way to break the tie than to consult rankings..which are very arbitrary. You've got to trust yourself and your knowledge of football to go out on a limb and make decisions accordingly

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LAbronco said:

yes i do.Wallace has too many negatives for me to start...gimpy OL, gimpy QB, bad matchup , and 20mphi'm in a ppr, so i'll take the conservative route and go with Hartline instead since Marshall is out...he's been avg'g 15 pts a game without Marshall

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Should have followed the experts on that one.

Quit whining.

See ya next year.

I never understood people who play fantasy football and base their draft, lineup decisions, waiver moves, etc. off of some "experts". Make a decision for yourself, or find a new hobby.

The Real Hipster Doofus said:

I never understood people who play fantasy football and base their draft, lineup decisions, waiver moves, etc. off of some "experts". Make a decision for yourself, or find a new hobby.

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I dont watch enough or know nearly enough about football to make decisions for myself.I go with the rankings every single week. It's why I pay whatever it is I pay here.

the moops said:

The Real Hipster Doofus said:

I never understood people who play fantasy football and base their draft, lineup decisions, waiver moves, etc. off of some "experts". Make a decision for yourself, or find a new hobby.

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I dont watch enough or know nearly enough about football to make decisions for myself.I go with the rankings every single week. It's why I pay whatever it is I pay here.

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so you participate in a fantasy version of a sport you don't really watch or know anything about, all for the satisfaction of putting check marks next to names that you get off a list made by someone else.sound like buckets of fun.

I know. I mean Pierre Garcon #58? That's ridiculous!!!

yabahos said:

fridayfrenzy said:

"ranking slave"

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If they ban LAbronco from the site does that mean he will have his four year old daughter begin posting ...

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Not sure that hasn't already happened.

Enjoy the offseason!

On a side note, I have Peyton Manning, and I am pissed that no one projected his 11 INT's in 3 games. Heck, I've thought about asking for a refund. What are we going to do with these so called "experts" and their projections.

The Comedian said:

the moops said:

The Real Hipster Doofus said:

I never understood people who play fantasy football and base their draft, lineup decisions, waiver moves, etc. off of some "experts". Make a decision for yourself, or find a new hobby.

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I dont watch enough or know nearly enough about football to make decisions for myself.I go with the rankings every single week. It's why I pay whatever it is I pay here.

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so you participate in a fantasy version of a sport you don't really watch or know anything about, all for the satisfaction of putting check marks next to names that you get off a list made by someone else.sound like buckets of fun.

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I said I don't watch enough or know enough.

I am a busy man. Playing fantasy football adds some excitement, but it's not as if I spend hours upon hours each week studying game tape and scouring practice squads. I watch maybe a couple of hours of games each week. There is nothing I do in my life that makes me think I know more about football than Dodds or Bloom, or whoever.

And I think most of you fools who think you know more should stop whining and start your own damn site if you think you are that knowledgeable.

the moops said:

The Comedian said:

the moops said:

The Real Hipster Doofus said:

I never understood people who play fantasy football and base their draft, lineup decisions, waiver moves, etc. off of some "experts". Make a decision for yourself, or find a new hobby.

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I dont watch enough or know nearly enough about football to make decisions for myself.I go with the rankings every single week. It's why I pay whatever it is I pay here.

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so you participate in a fantasy version of a sport you don't really watch or know anything about, all for the satisfaction of putting check marks next to names that you get off a list made by someone else.sound like buckets of fun.

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I said I don't watch enough or know enough.

I am a busy man. Playing fantasy football adds some excitemuent, but it's not as if I spend hours upon hours each week studying game tape and scouring practice squads. I watch maybe a couple of hours of games each week. There is nothing I do in my life that makes me think I know more about football than Dodds or Bloom, or whoever.

And I think most of you fools who think you know more should stop whining and start your own damn site if you think you are that knowledgeable.

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I couldn't tell if you were just joking with your first post or not, the second post cleared it up....I find it funny though that you claim you just don't have enough time to devote more thqn a few hours per week, but then say we should change our lives around and basically dedicate it to fantasy football, if we think we know more than your precious fantasy experts, lol...just too funny...

You get what you pay for. $28 ain't much for FF advice and the quality of the analysis is not that high. Perhaps better in some aspects than others.

FBG deals more in quantity, less in quality. Use the info as a sanity check. Nothing more. Make your own decisions.

the moops said:

The Comedian said:

the moops said:

The Real Hipster Doofus said:

I never understood people who play fantasy football and base their draft, lineup decisions, waiver moves, etc. off of some "experts". Make a decision for yourself, or find a new hobby.

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I dont watch enough or know nearly enough about football to make decisions for myself.I go with the rankings every single week. It's why I pay whatever it is I pay here.

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so you participate in a fantasy version of a sport you don't really watch or know anything about, all for the satisfaction of putting check marks next to names that you get off a list made by someone else.sound like buckets of fun.

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I said I don't watch enough or know enough.

I am a busy man. Playing fantasy football adds some excitement, but it's not as if I spend hours upon hours each week studying game tape and scouring practice squads. I watch maybe a couple of hours of games each week. There is nothing I do in my life that makes me think I know more about football than Dodds or Bloom, or whoever.

And I think most of you fools who think you know more should stop whining and start your own damn site if you think you are that knowledgeable.

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Good post. The man is being honest. He doesn't put as much time into keeping up, so he needs to rely on others that do. FF is still fun for him because it adds some excitement to the weekends and maybe gives him another reason to stay in touch with friends in his league. Is this really bad?There's no right or wrong here. Some people want the opinions of others to help them out. Others want to do it on their own.

Those of you who think it's absolutely lame to get expert opinions to help you make FF decisions, answer these two questions for me:

1. If you want absolutely NO advice from others, what are you doing in a FF forum that's all about sharing opinions, advice, etc?

2. If you think it's lame to follow the advice of others in FF, is it lame to do it for stocks? How about for insurance advice? How about for real estate purchases? How about for sports betting? There are plenty of people that devote many hours to become an "expert" at what they do. I don't mind leaning on them for advice sometimes if I think they're credible and good at what they do.

I agree, though, that it's lame to follow someone's advice and then #####/whine about afterward. I also agree that anyone can claim to be a FF expert, which is partially why there's no credibility in the industry. There are sites out there that are trying to fix this though.

Final thought. I dream of the day when I have hundreds of "experts" consulting me on my critical decisions. I want to be the PIMP GM that has a rockstar cast of assistant GM's, scouts, coaches, cheerlearders, and waterboys all helping me to dominate my league. WTF is so wrong with that? I want to be the CEO of a corporation running my fantasy team, not some mom and pop sole proprietor with too much pride to take someone else's advice...only to then get crushed by the competition. You feel me?

plyka said:

I find it funny though that you claim you just don't have enough time to devote more thqn a few hours per week, but then say we should change our lives around and basically dedicate it to fantasy football, if we think we know more than your precious fantasy experts, lol...just too funny...

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I don't have enough time. Perhaps you do.How is that funny?

Makes me shake my head how so few people get how this stuff works.

Football rankings are guesses - some more educated than others - at how players will perform on a given day. Do you really think that anyone out there can actually predict the outcomes of the games themselves - let alone individual players within said games? There are millions upon millions of tiny variables that can contribute to the outcome of any single PLAY in football, let alone the entire game.

Projecting points for any given player involves a varying amount of information and complexity (depending upon the individual making the projection) and while some prognosticators are better than others, NO ONE is ever going to be anywhere close to 100% accurate.

If you use an individual's rankings to set your lineup, fine. If you use them to double check your own projections, that's dandy too. If you don't trust the rankings of anyone but yourself, swell. But no matter what you do, understand that projections are only someone's best guesses at an outcome with only a certain level of probability.

Much like playing cards, you can only play the percentages and probabilities and hope they work out.

If you were playing blackjack with an 11 and dealer showing a 6 and I told you to double down and you lost, would that mean I gave bad advice?

One for each "expert" that screwed you.

No one found it odd that the OP's "High Stakes Fantasy Championship Game" was in week 13?

ETA: It looks like it was a WCOFF league championship. Hopefully he scored enough points to make the championship round as a wild card

The Comedian said:

the moops said:

The Real Hipster Doofus said:

I never understood people who play fantasy football and base their draft, lineup decisions, waiver moves, etc. off of some "experts". Make a decision for yourself, or find a new hobby.

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I dont watch enough or know nearly enough about football to make decisions for myself.I go with the rankings every single week. It's why I pay whatever it is I pay here.

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so you participate in a fantasy version of a sport you don't really watch or know anything about, all for the satisfaction of putting check marks next to names that you get off a list made by someone else.sound like buckets of fun.

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Maybe the OP should have been in the venting thread, but i think a lot of you are being overly harsh.

When i view the player rankings, i always think that there is more than just an opinion that went into the projections. I like to think that things like projected game plans, matchup histories, health, weather, etc are taken into account. To have to analyze every team and player during the week to come up with your own projections to me would be a daunting task.

I've had a particularly poor year at lineup decision making, and yes it cost me my WCOFF main event league championship last week. I missed the championship round by about 10 points...the 10 points that starting F Jones over Bradshaw cost me. Being very torn between the 2, i used the FBG rankings for the tiebreaker. I've done that much less this year but seems every time i did it was a losing action.

I have also found that the rankings dont often reflect the info thats being put out by the site. For example, I offer an IDP...Patrick Cheung. Stud safety for most of the season, it was being reported in the IDP forum that he was seeing less snaps in the last couple of weeks, which is bad news for any IDP. Yet he was rated the 6th best db overall for the week. So i figure maybe they know more than i do , they must he think he is going back to an everydown role, so I and obviously many readers of the IDP forum start Cheung...he plays about half the snaps and puts up close to a zippo. I think this is the type of thing that is frustrating about the site...rankings inconsistent with realities. Are we entitled to think that FBG staffers know more about these situations than we do? Just asking.

If i had the time, i would be reading every hometown newspaper's beat writer all week, which likely would be revealing as to possible game plans, player usage, etc. Would hope this is the type of thing the FBG staffers do.

In the end, though, i will be an FBG lifer, so i think we should offer suggestions on improvement in this area. I will have plenty of time to reflect on this if this weekend doesnt go well....so just once FBG, good accurate rankings for this week! TIA

A site that ranks and analyzes expert accuracy found that the very best experts are only right about 60% of the time. The FBG guys are among the best, but when the best is 10% better than a coin flip, don't expect miracles.

fridayfrenzy said:

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It is all luck anyway. Luck just didn't swing to your side.

If I knew as a fact that two players would put up exactly 1000 yards and 6 TDs by the end of the year, would I rather start the guy who had 900 yards and 5 TDs, or the guy who had 800 yards and 4 TDs? It seems pretty obvious that you'd want the guy who had lower stats. But the expert rankings almost always prefer the guy who had the higher stats.

Part of that is because we don't know that those two guys will end up with exactly 1000 yards and 6 TDs. So we use their past performance to guess what their final results will be. But we can't just multiply their season averages out, either, or else every player who started out hot would end up with record breaking numbers, and no player who started out cold would ever amount to anything.

So one of the things we can do is try to estimate their end of season numbers. Another thing we can do is try to figure out if they're in the middle of a hot streak. You might not believe in hot streaks in pure statistics, but football is not a pure statistical exercise. There are coaches who will keep going to the well until they find an opponent who can stop it. So they'll keep throwing to Roddy or Nicks until someone stops them. Those guys might not put up huge numbers like this every year, but for now, it's working, and no coach in their right mind would change up a winning formula. So if you think a player is in a hot streak, you should probably start them.

Unless they have a bad matchup. We usually look at a "bad matchup" as a team that is statistically good against the pass or rush, but that's garbage, too. Week one games rarely have as much to do with the quality of the defense as it does other factors, whether it's the preparedness for the other team's gameplan, the random injuries that change the game, some unrealized mismatch that gets capitalized on, or whatever. By week three or four, we have enough stats to be somewhat relevant, but they're still as much a guage of strength of schedule as they are of the quality of the defense. Defensive rankings really don't become relevant until pretty late in the season, but by then, injuries have kicked in, and they become a lot less valuable.

And that's before we talk about good defense vs. good offense. A good run D facing a bad running back and a good quarterback may actually be a good matchup for that bad running back, because the defense isn't going to put 8 in the box. You have to think about how the coach would actually gameplan before you consider a good matchup or a bad matchup. You have to look at how the defense is going to handle a team, too. You might not be able to predict that the Pats would destroy the Jets on Monday night, but a lot of people here predicted that Revis wouldn't be able to shut everyone down against a team that spreads the ball around, so a pass defense that shuts down a team with one good WR is probably not going to shut down the Pats altogether. So is it a bad matchup for Brady? Or Hernandez? I don't think so.

There's really a lot that goes in to quality rankings. And FBG does a pretty good job of it, for the most part. But if you feel like you have a good idea how a game is going to go, you should go with your instincts, not the rankings.

dennis.moore said:

It is all luck anyway. Luck just didn't swing to your side.

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Luck is inherent in every game known to mankind, otherwise it wouldn't be a "game". Skill is the players ability to influence the odds more towards his favor, though we know that the element of luck will always be there. Analysis in FF is the skill that will help us to find the best odds play, but we will never eliminate luck, thats a certainty.

aerolaw said:

Maybe the OP should have been in the venting thread, but i think a lot of you are being overly harsh. When i view the player rankings, i always think that there is more than just an opinion that went into the projections. I like to think that things like projected game plans, matchup histories, health, weather, etc are taken into account. To have to analyze every team and player during the week to come up with your own projections to me would be a daunting task. I've had a particularly poor year at lineup decision making, and yes it cost me my WCOFF main event league championship last week. I missed the championship round by about 10 points...the 10 points that starting F Jones over Bradshaw cost me. Being very torn between the 2, i used the FBG rankings for the tiebreaker. I've done that much less this year but seems every time i did it was a losing action.I have also found that the rankings dont often reflect the info thats being put out by the site. For example, I offer an IDP...Patrick Cheung. Stud safety for most of the season, it was being reported in the IDP forum that he was seeing less snaps in the last couple of weeks, which is bad news for any IDP. Yet he was rated the 6th best db overall for the week. So i figure maybe they know more than i do , they must he think he is going back to an everydown role, so I and obviously many readers of the IDP forum start Cheung...he plays about half the snaps and puts up close to a zippo. I think this is the type of thing that is frustrating about the site...rankings inconsistent with realities. Are we entitled to think that FBG staffers know more about these situations than we do? Just asking.If i had the time, i would be reading every hometown newspaper's beat writer all week, which likely would be revealing as to possible game plans, player usage, etc. Would hope this is the type of thing the FBG staffers do. In the end, though, i will be an FBG lifer, so i think we should offer suggestions on improvement in this area. I will have plenty of time to reflect on this if this weekend doesnt go well....so just once FBG, good accurate rankings for this week! TIA

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btw, if it makes ya feel any better, i lost by 0.65 of a point. I think when you lose by under a point, and miss out on 2 coinflip decisions by deferring to the 'Experts', when $5K is on the line, i think you are entitled to ##### and moan just a little bit. Granted, the person who stated this post is better suited for the 'Venting ' threads may be on to something. Holmes got just enough catches/yds to overcome my 13.5 pt lead headed into Mon Nite, making it particularly gut-wrenching : ) And yes, this is a WCOFF league

one last thing.

Alot of posters have made the assumption i'm whining about projections Not quite. I'm whining about rankings. I never put any stock into actual projections because there are too many variables that determine a players final statistical outcome. However, rankings , are a determination of the statistical order the player will finish with respect to his position. Rankings(Royal at #31 WR) always have more merit to me because projections(Royal catching 5 passes for 60 yds and .5 td) are too hard to predict....

nickel&dime said:

the moops said:

The Comedian said:

the moops said:

The Real Hipster Doofus said:

I never understood people who play fantasy football and base their draft, lineup decisions, waiver moves, etc. off of some "experts". Make a decision for yourself, or find a new hobby.

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I dont watch enough or know nearly enough about football to make decisions for myself.I go with the rankings every single week. It's why I pay whatever it is I pay here.

Click to expand...

so you participate in a fantasy version of a sport you don't really watch or know anything about, all for the satisfaction of putting check marks next to names that you get off a list made by someone else.sound like buckets of fun.

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I said I don't watch enough or know enough.

I am a busy man. Playing fantasy football adds some excitement, but it's not as if I spend hours upon hours each week studying game tape and scouring practice squads. I watch maybe a couple of hours of games each week. There is nothing I do in my life that makes me think I know more about football than Dodds or Bloom, or whoever.

And I think most of you fools who think you know more should stop whining and start your own damn site if you think you are that knowledgeable.

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Good post. The man is being honest. He doesn't put as much time into keeping up, so he needs to rely on others that do. FF is still fun for him because it adds some excitement to the weekends and maybe gives him another reason to stay in touch with friends in his league. Is this really bad?There's no right or wrong here. Some people want the opinions of others to help them out. Others want to do it on their own.

Those of you who think it's absolutely lame to get expert opinions to help you make FF decisions, answer these two questions for me:

1. If you want absolutely NO advice from others, what are you doing in a FF forum that's all about sharing opinions, advice, etc?

2. If you think it's lame to follow the advice of others in FF, is it lame to do it for stocks? How about for insurance advice? How about for real estate purchases? How about for sports betting? There are plenty of people that devote many hours to become an "expert" at what they do. I don't mind leaning on them for advice sometimes if I think they're credible and good at what they do.

I agree, though, that it's lame to follow someone's advice and then #####/whine about afterward. I also agree that anyone can claim to be a FF expert, which is partially why there's no credibility in the industry. There are sites out there that are trying to fix this though.

Final thought. I dream of the day when I have hundreds of "experts" consulting me on my critical decisions. I want to be the PIMP GM that has a rockstar cast of assistant GM's, scouts, coaches, cheerlearders, and waterboys all helping me to dominate my league. WTF is so wrong with that? I want to be the CEO of a corporation running my fantasy team, not some mom and pop sole proprietor with too much pride to take someone else's advice...only to then get crushed by the competition. You feel me?

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LAbronco said:

Next to experts rankings, there should be a disclaimer ''for entertainment purposes only''Had 2 coinflips last weekend for my High Stakes Fantasy Championship Game...For my 3rd WR(required) the choice was Royal vs Bennet. For TE: M Lewis vs Hernandez,Consulted rankings by the 2 main experts on FBG , also used expert rankings from some of the top 'experts' in FF.Not one expert had Bennett ranked higher than Royal. In fact, Royal's avg ranking was in the low 30s (Sigmund had him in the teens), while Bennett's was low 50s. As for TE, Lewis avg ranking was 7, Hernandez 17. Noone had Hernandez higher than Marcedes. Results: Bennett, 17 pts. Royal 3 pts Hernandez 16 pts, Lewis 6.6 ptsI know i'm ultimately responsible for my lineup decisions. My fault for putting so much faith in the so-called experts. My suggestion to you guys is to find another way to break the tie than to consult rankings..which are very arbitrary. You've got to trust yourself and your knowledge of football to go out on a limb and make decisions accordingly

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They're so cute at this age!

The GPS told me to drive off a cliff, so I did.

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4th response? This place is slipping.

aerolaw said:

Maybe the OP should have been in the venting thread, but i think a lot of you are being overly harsh. When i view the player rankings, i always think that there is more than just an opinion that went into the projections. I like to think that things like projected game plans, matchup histories, health, weather, etc are taken into account. To have to analyze every team and player during the week to come up with your own projections to me would be a daunting task. I've had a particularly poor year at lineup decision making, and yes it cost me my WCOFF main event league championship last week. I missed the championship round by about 10 points...the 10 points that starting F Jones over Bradshaw cost me. Being very torn between the 2, i used the FBG rankings for the tiebreaker. I've done that much less this year but seems every time i did it was a losing action.I have also found that the rankings dont often reflect the info thats being put out by the site. For example, I offer an IDP...Patrick Cheung. Stud safety for most of the season, it was being reported in the IDP forum that he was seeing less snaps in the last couple of weeks, which is bad news for any IDP. Yet he was rated the 6th best db overall for the week. So i figure maybe they know more than i do , they must he think he is going back to an everydown role, so I and obviously many readers of the IDP forum start Cheung...he plays about half the snaps and puts up close to a zippo. I think this is the type of thing that is frustrating about the site...rankings inconsistent with realities. Are we entitled to think that FBG staffers know more about these situations than we do? Just asking.If i had the time, i would be reading every hometown newspaper's beat writer all week, which likely would be revealing as to possible game plans, player usage, etc. Would hope this is the type of thing the FBG staffers do. In the end, though, i will be an FBG lifer, so i think we should offer suggestions on improvement in this area. I will have plenty of time to reflect on this if this weekend doesnt go well....so just once FBG, good accurate rankings for this week! TIA

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There is a fantasy insurance site out there. Perhaps you should look into it.

LAbronco said:

one last thing.

Alot of posters have made the assumption i'm whining about projections Not quite. I'm whining about rankings. I never put any stock into actual projections because there are too many variables that determine a players final statistical outcome. However, rankings , are a determination of the statistical order the player will finish with respect to his position. Rankings(Royal at #31 WR) always have more merit to me because projections(Royal catching 5 passes for 60 yds and .5 td) are too hard to predict....

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It doesn't matter what you're whining about.You are taking two sets of players, from one week, and have determined that based on those two rankings, you are done with "so-called" experts.

Do you have any idea how absurd that is? Do you have a link to some 100% guarantee from the experts here? "We pledge to get the thousands of ranked players correct every week that we do, including defensive tackles and 3rd WRs from terrible teams. We assure all owners that have big money on leagues that there is no need to make lineup decisions, these rankings are foolproof."

You are doing the WCOFF, and blindly go with FBG rankings? Any idea how silly that sounds?

aerolaw said:

dennis.moore said:

It is all luck anyway. Luck just didn't swing to your side.

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Luck is inherent in every game known to mankind, otherwise it wouldn't be a "game". Skill is the players ability to influence the odds more towards his favor, though we know that the element of luck will always be there. Analysis in FF is the skill that will help us to find the best odds play, but we will never eliminate luck, thats a certainty.

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There is no "skill" in fantasy football with all of the information available on the internet. 100% luck.

LAbronco said:

one last thing.

Alot of posters have made the assumption i'm whining about projections Not quite. I'm whining about rankings. I never put any stock into actual projections because there are too many variables that determine a players final statistical outcome. However, rankings , are a determination of the statistical order the player will finish with respect to his position. Rankings(Royal at #31 WR) always have more merit to me because projections(Royal catching 5 passes for 60 yds and .5 td) are too hard to predict....

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Show me a site that has everyone ranked correctly? No? Right. Therefore, you made a mistake, you didn't do your own research and you made the wrong choice.

Looking at weekly rankings/cheetsheets does nothing but put "doubt" in your mind and lead you down an ugly road of wrong choices...

Boom Switch said:

Looking at weekly rankings/cheetsheets does nothing but put "doubt" in your mind and lead you down an ugly road of wrong choices...

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im pretty sure theres never been a time where i was convinced of a decision and then benefited from looking at rankings.when it comes to coinflips, the rankings might be useful but who knows.unfortunately in this situation these were not coinflips this is just annoying whining from people who talk about players on their bench blowing up that they never even considered starting.