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WIS MMXI: Back to the Future Edition- Draft & Season Thread (1 Viewer)

'RnR said:
'RnR said:
'Notorious T.R.E. said:
'RnR said:
Looking at that team typed out on a message board, it looks awfully boring. I think that might be a good thing though, half the battle is getting your "ho-hum" players to actually give you those "boring" counting stats.
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I see the Cardinals fan in you made you chase after Ryan Ludwick.
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Possibly. Had him as OF #72 on my rankings. He was best available on my list in the 22nd round. I figure at worst he's a play on road weeks as the 5th OFer. I don't have any illusions of 2008 dancing in my head. A solid 260/70/20/70 line is my expectation.
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I expected a reach on Rolen comment, but that was more a "I'm scared to death of my 3B alternatives if I don't take Rolen here" pick.
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Gordon should be 3B eligible for you, no?He'll save your ### there.
 
'Notorious T.R.E. said:
'RnR said:
'RnR said:
'Notorious T.R.E. said:
'RnR said:
Looking at that team typed out on a message board, it looks awfully boring. I think that might be a good thing though, half the battle is getting your "ho-hum" players to actually give you those "boring" counting stats.
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I see the Cardinals fan in you made you chase after Ryan Ludwick.
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Possibly. Had him as OF #72 on my rankings. He was best available on my list in the 22nd round. I figure at worst he's a play on road weeks as the 5th OFer. I don't have any illusions of 2008 dancing in my head. A solid 260/70/20/70 line is my expectation.
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I expected a reach on Rolen comment, but that was more a "I'm scared to death of my 3B alternatives if I don't take Rolen here" pick.
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Gordon should be 3B eligible for you, no?He'll save your ### there.
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Nope, wish he was. 20 games required from last year. 10 games this year will qualify him. I don't like my chances of that though.
 
Placido Polanco may get a look for me when Rolen hits the DL. Steady the BA and get some decent R/RBI numbers given his spot in their order.

 
Target numbers for winning the overall were:

.275 BA

1075 Runs

275 HR

1050 RBI

170 SB

3.60 ERA

1.25 WHIP

105 Wins

1300 Strikeouts

85 Saves

A quick run of some of the "expert" projections puts me good at Runs, HR, and RBI. A little short of steals and about 5 points short on BA. (Thanks to Chris Snyder!)

On the pitching side, ERA and WHIP are good. Wins/Saves will depend on Fernando Rodney. If I can work him in enough to ensure I get to 85 saves, but still have weeks to work a 7th starter in his place, that will give me a good shot at 100+ wins. I'm fully prepared to be 100k's short. Not sure how to change that. I didn't get the 200k SP I was hoping for.

 
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'RnR said:
'RnR said:
'Notorious T.R.E. said:
'RnR said:
Looking at that team typed out on a message board, it looks awfully boring. I think that might be a good thing though, half the battle is getting your "ho-hum" players to actually give you those "boring" counting stats.
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I see the Cardinals fan in you made you chase after Ryan Ludwick.
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Possibly. Had him as OF #72 on my rankings. He was best available on my list in the 22nd round. I figure at worst he's a play on road weeks as the 5th OFer. I don't have any illusions of 2008 dancing in my head. A solid 260/70/20/70 line is my expectation.
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I expected a reach on Rolen comment, but that was more a "I'm scared to death of my 3B alternatives if I don't take Rolen here" pick.
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ya, I'd be worried there for sure. Last year, he managed to play 133 games and the Reds led the league in runs and he still only managed 66 runs and 83 RBIs. Obviously you'd take that again, but I'm not sure I can realistically expect a repeat of either of those things. Not to mention, he looked like a completely different player in the 2nd half of the season. Lets hope he can turn it on again for 2011 though.
 
'cheese said:
'RnR said:
'RnR said:
'Notorious T.R.E. said:
'RnR said:
Looking at that team typed out on a message board, it looks awfully boring. I think that might be a good thing though, half the battle is getting your "ho-hum" players to actually give you those "boring" counting stats.
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I see the Cardinals fan in you made you chase after Ryan Ludwick.
Click to expand...
Possibly. Had him as OF #72 on my rankings. He was best available on my list in the 22nd round. I figure at worst he's a play on road weeks as the 5th OFer. I don't have any illusions of 2008 dancing in my head. A solid 260/70/20/70 line is my expectation.
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I expected a reach on Rolen comment, but that was more a "I'm scared to death of my 3B alternatives if I don't take Rolen here" pick.
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ya, I'd be worried there for sure. Last year, he managed to play 133 games and the Reds led the league in runs and he still only managed 66 runs and 83 RBIs. Obviously you'd take that again, but I'm not sure I can realistically expect a repeat of either of those things. Not to mention, he looked like a completely different player in the 2nd half of the season. Lets hope he can turn it on again for 2011 though.
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No doubt. 3B is incredibly weak this season from a fantasy perspective, and when I missed on the top few tiers I really was hesitant to pull the trigger on a 3B. But I got to the point in the draft where it was Rolen, Chipper, or scrubs. I was actually hoping to draft both Rolen and Chipper hoping to get a usable season between the two of them, but that didn't work out. Here's to Scotty's shoulder staying right. :banned:
 
'RnR said:
'cheese said:
'RnR said:
'RnR said:
'Notorious T.R.E. said:
'RnR said:
Looking at that team typed out on a message board, it looks awfully boring. I think that might be a good thing though, half the battle is getting your "ho-hum" players to actually give you those "boring" counting stats.
Click to expand...
I see the Cardinals fan in you made you chase after Ryan Ludwick.
Click to expand...
Possibly. Had him as OF #72 on my rankings. He was best available on my list in the 22nd round. I figure at worst he's a play on road weeks as the 5th OFer. I don't have any illusions of 2008 dancing in my head. A solid 260/70/20/70 line is my expectation.
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I expected a reach on Rolen comment, but that was more a "I'm scared to death of my 3B alternatives if I don't take Rolen here" pick.
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ya, I'd be worried there for sure. Last year, he managed to play 133 games and the Reds led the league in runs and he still only managed 66 runs and 83 RBIs. Obviously you'd take that again, but I'm not sure I can realistically expect a repeat of either of those things. Not to mention, he looked like a completely different player in the 2nd half of the season. Lets hope he can turn it on again for 2011 though.
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No doubt. 3B is incredibly weak this season from a fantasy perspective, and when I missed on the top few tiers I really was hesitant to pull the trigger on a 3B. But I got to the point in the draft where it was Rolen, Chipper, or scrubs. I was actually hoping to draft both Rolen and Chipper hoping to get a usable season between the two of them, but that didn't work out. Here's to Scotty's shoulder staying right. :banned:
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Which 3B were available at 2.05? :coffee:
 
'Spartans Rule said:
'Notorious T.R.E. said:
Which 3B were available at 2.05? :coffee:
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That's where I probably would've gone different. Not a fan of Reyes that high at all. Too many safer picks available.I do love Uggla at 3.11 though.
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:goodposting: That was my biggest problem with your squad. Could've turned that pick into a better 3B or SP. There's enough depth at the 2B position this year that I'm almost always filling my MI spot with one of them. I prefer to wait on one of them rather than pay such a steep price for two SS like you did.
 
'rodg12 said:
'Spartans Rule said:
'Notorious T.R.E. said:
Which 3B were available at 2.05? :coffee:
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That's where I probably would've gone different. Not a fan of Reyes that high at all. Too many safer picks available.I do love Uggla at 3.11 though.
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:goodposting: That was my biggest problem with your squad. Could've turned that pick into a better 3B or SP. There's enough depth at the 2B position this year that I'm almost always filling my MI spot with one of them. I prefer to wait on one of them rather than pay such a steep price for two SS like you did.
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Heading into the draft, I fully expected to fill 3B within my first 2 picks. I feel there is a steep drop-off after the top 4. Unfortunately, Longoria, ARod, Wright, and Zimmerman were all gone before I picked at 2.05 (The dooosh at #14 took Wright there and Zimmerman at 17). Longo and ARod were actually gone before my pick at 1.11. Best available on my board at 2.5 were Howard, Fielder, and Reyes. While I don't necessarily disagree that I could've waited for another MI later in the draft, I felt it was important to grab a guy that could contribute in 5 cats there. If I take a guy like Howard or Fielder, I'm literally at 0 steals heading into 3.11. The name of the game in the NFBC is keeping your balance, and with 0 steals after two round I would've been left reaching for guys like Pierre or Bourn in rounds 7 or 8 to try to get back on track for a steals target. That negates the power value in starting with AGone/Howard.ETA: I'll admit to having a little man crush on Reyes. His ADP in 82 NFBC satellite leagues was like 23.75, so while I understand taking him at pick #20 might be perceived as taking him early, that's fairly on target with his ADP. I certainly wouldn't be seeing him when I picked again at #41.
 
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Today's picks :bag:

35 . 01 ( 817 ) TRE...... Randy Choate P

35 . 02 ( 818 ) sammy.... Erick Almonte 2B

35 . 03 ( 819 ) LB_44....

35 . 04 ( 820 ) moops.... Anthony Rizzo 1B

35 . 05 ( 821 ) jfranco77 Josh Lueke P

35 . 06 ( 822 ) eephus... Yunesky Maya P

35 . 07 ( 823 ) scoobus.. Joe Inglett OF

35 . 08 ( 824 ) belljr...

35 . 09 ( 825 ) SCBF.....

35 . 10 ( 826 ) cheese... Nolan Reimold OF

35 . 11 ( 827 ) Greco.... Jay Gibbons OF

35 . 12 ( 828 ) rodg12... John Lamb P

35 . 13 ( 829 ) ChemX.... Matt Moore P

35 . 14 ( 830 ) Arsenal.. Felipe Paulino P

35 . 15 ( 831 ) DougB.... Blake Beavan P

35 . 16 ( 832 ) SNC...... Sam Fuld OF

35 . 17 ( 833 ) NV.......

35 . 18 ( 834 ) Bogart... Scott Feldman P

35 . 19 ( 835 ) bobucarow John Grabow P

35 . 20 ( 836 ) sparty... Everth Cabrera SS

35 . 21 ( 837 ) RnRolen.. Dee Gordon SS

35 . 22 ( 838 ) HoosFirst Ivan DeJesusJr 2B

35 . 23 ( 839 ) TUpside.. Ramiro Pena SS

35 . 24 ( 840 ) OsoDiablo John Hester C

36 . 01 ( 841 ) OsoDiablo

36 . 02 ( 842 ) TUpside.. Dellin Betances P

36 . 03 ( 843 ) HoosFirst Aaron Crow P

36 . 04 ( 844 ) RnRolen..

36 . 05 ( 845 ) sparty... David Purcey P

36 . 06 ( 846 ) bobucarow Matt Tolbert 3B

36 . 07 ( 847 ) Bogart... Matt Szczur OF

36 . 08 ( 848 ) NV.......

36 . 09 ( 849 ) SNC...... AJ Ellis C

36 . 10 ( 850 ) DougB.... Brett Jackson OF

36 . 11 ( 851 ) Arsenal.. Charlie Blackmon OF

36 . 12 ( 852 ) ChemX....

36 . 13 ( 853 ) rodg12... Jose Iglesias SS

36 . 14 ( 854 ) Greco.... Matt Albers P

36 . 15 ( 855 ) cheese... Luis Valbuena 3B

36 . 16 ( 856 ) SCBF.....

36 . 17 ( 857 ) belljr...

36 . 18 ( 858 ) scoobus.. Dennys Reyes P

36 . 19 ( 859 ) eephus... Eric Patterson OF

36 . 20 ( 860 ) jfranco77 Michael Martinez 2B

36 . 21 ( 861 ) moops....

36 . 22 ( 862 ) LB_44....

36 . 23 ( 863 ) sammy.... Aaron Cunningham OF

36 . 24 ( 864 ) TRE...... Hector Giminez C

37 . 01 ( 865 ) TRE...... Chris Pettit OF

37 . 02 ( 866 ) sammy.... Jeremy Accardo P

37 . 03 ( 867 ) LB_44....

37 . 04 ( 868 ) moops....

37 . 05 ( 869 ) jfranco77 Kenshin Kawakami P

37 . 06 ( 870 ) eephus... Juan Cruz P

37 . 07 ( 871 ) scoobus.. Pedro Strop P

37 . 08 ( 872 ) belljr...

37 . 09 ( 873 ) SCBF.....

37 . 10 ( 874 ) cheese... Dave Sappelt OF

37 . 11 ( 875 ) Greco.... Brendan Harris 3B

37 . 12 ( 876 ) rodg12... Casey Janssen P

37 . 13 ( 877 ) ChemX....

37 . 14 ( 878 ) Arsenal..

37 . 15 ( 879 ) DougB.... Brooks Conrad 3B

37 . 16 ( 880 ) SNC...... Jerry Blevins P

37 . 17 ( 881 ) NV.......

37 . 18 ( 882 ) Bogart... Omar Beltre P

37 . 19 ( 883 ) bobucarow Brandon Hicks 2B

37 . 20 ( 884 ) sparty... Sam LeCure P

37 . 21 ( 885 ) RnRolen.. Jeff Samardzija P

37 . 22 ( 886 ) HoosFirst Ross Detwiler P

37 . 23 ( 887 ) TUpside..

37 . 24 ( 888 ) OsoDiablo

 
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'boubucarow said:
ROSTERC - Buster Posey, Eli Whiteside, Welington Castillo1B - Ike Davis, Todd Helton, Shelley Duncan2B - Will Rhymes, Darwin Barney3B - Scott Rolen, Juan FranciscoSS - Starlin CastroUT - Juan Uribe, Matt Tolbert, Brandon HicksOF - Andrew McCutchen, Torii Hunter, Jacoby Ellsbury, David Murphy, Allen Craig, Mike TroutSP - Dallas Braden, Joel Pinerio, Randy Wells, Jeff Francis, Ross Ohlendorf, John Lannan, Bruce ChenRP - Luke Gregerson, Mike Adams, Sean Marshall, Darren Oliver, Micheal Wuertz, Robinson Tejeda, Zach Braddock, Mark Difelice, John Grabow, Kevin Slowey
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Just keeping track.
 
'Eephus said:
'boubucarow said:
SP - Dallas Braden, Joel Pinerio, Randy Wells, Jeff Francis, Ross Ohlendorf, John Lannan, Bruce Chen
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:jawdrop:
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I waited a long time to draft one and Slowey isn't getting the job I hoped he would (I knew the writing was on the wall but it seemed idiotic and still does). The hope is having a bunch of #3/#4 starters if a couple can reach into the mid 3's of ERA land. Likely a couple arms fall off and I have 4-5 #4/#5's though. Hopefully the bull pen arms come through and I can go the last 4 innings every game with them.
 
'RnR said:
'rodg12 said:
'Spartans Rule said:
'Notorious T.R.E. said:
Which 3B were available at 2.05?

:coffee:
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That's where I probably would've gone different. Not a fan of Reyes that high at all. Too many safer picks available.I do love Uggla at 3.11 though.
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:goodposting: That was my biggest problem with your squad. Could've turned that pick into a better 3B or SP. There's enough depth at the 2B position this year that I'm almost always filling my MI spot with one of them. I prefer to wait on one of them rather than pay such a steep price for two SS like you did.
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Heading into the draft, I fully expected to fill 3B within my first 2 picks. I feel there is a steep drop-off after the top 4. Unfortunately, Longoria, ARod, Wright, and Zimmerman were all gone before I picked at 2.05 (The dooosh at #14 took Wright there and Zimmerman at 17). Longo and ARod were actually gone before my pick at 1.11. Best available on my board at 2.5 were Howard, Fielder, and Reyes. While I don't necessarily disagree that I could've waited for another MI later in the draft, I felt it was important to grab a guy that could contribute in 5 cats there. If I take a guy like Howard or Fielder, I'm literally at 0 steals heading into 3.11. The name of the game in the NFBC is keeping your balance, and with 0 steals after two round I would've been left reaching for guys like Pierre or Bourn in rounds 7 or 8 to try to get back on track for a steals target. That negates the power value in starting with AGone/Howard.ETA: I'll admit to having a little man crush on Reyes. His ADP in 82 NFBC satellite leagues was like 23.75, so while I understand taking him at pick #20 might be perceived as taking him early, that's fairly on target with his ADP. I certainly wouldn't be seeing him when I picked again at #41.
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Is that still true with the dearth of HR hittters? It seems like you'll get a couple of OF that can steal by accident no matter what these days while guys that can hit 30+ HRs are much scarcer.Was Youk taken before your 2nd pick?

 
'Super Nintendo Chalmers said:
'Spartans Rule said:
'oso diablo said:
has anyone heard from LarryBoy? wondering if we should do proxy picks for him like we have for other owners.
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At some point we'll have to, I suppose. The nice part is he made it through the key rounds. All he's missing out on here is some desperation fishing.
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I am pretty sure I saw him in this thread earlier today, so at least he knows where we are at.
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It says he was last online today at 5:40, weird that he wouldn't contact anyone or say something in the thread
 
Missing picks:

28 . 22 ( 670 ) LB_44.... SKIP

29 . 03 ( 675 ) LB_44.... SKIP

30 . 22 ( 718 ) LB_44.... SKIP

31 . 03 ( 723 ) LB_44.... SKIP

31 . 09 ( 729 ) SCBF..... SKIP

32 . 16 ( 760 ) SCBF..... SKIP

32 . 22 ( 766 ) LB_44.... SKIP

33 . 03 ( 771 ) LB_44.... SKIP

33 . 09 ( 777 ) SCBF..... SKIP

34 . 13 ( 805 ) rodg12... SKIP

34 . 16 ( 808 ) SCBF..... SKIP

34 . 22 ( 814 ) LB_44.... SKIP

35 . 03 ( 819 ) LB_44.... SKIP

35 . 08 ( 824 ) belljr... SKIP

35 . 09 ( 825 ) SCBF..... SKIP

36 . 12 ( 852 ) ChemX.... SKIP

36 . 16 ( 856 ) SCBF..... SKIP

36 . 17 ( 857 ) belljr... SKIP

36 . 21 ( 861 ) moops.... SKIP

36 . 22 ( 862 ) LB_44.... SKIP

37 . 03 ( 867 ) LB_44.... SKIP

37 . 04 ( 868 ) moops.... SKIP

37 . 08 ( 872 ) belljr... SKIP

37 . 09 ( 873 ) SCBF..... SKIP

37 . 13 ( 877 ) ChemX.... SKIP

37 . 14 ( 878 ) Arsenal.. SKIP

37 . 23 ( 887 ) TUpside.. SKIP

 
'Sammy3469 said:
'RnR said:
'rodg12 said:
'Spartans Rule said:
'Notorious T.R.E. said:
Which 3B were available at 2.05?

:coffee:
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That's where I probably would've gone different. Not a fan of Reyes that high at all. Too many safer picks available.I do love Uggla at 3.11 though.
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:goodposting: That was my biggest problem with your squad. Could've turned that pick into a better 3B or SP. There's enough depth at the 2B position this year that I'm almost always filling my MI spot with one of them. I prefer to wait on one of them rather than pay such a steep price for two SS like you did.
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Heading into the draft, I fully expected to fill 3B within my first 2 picks. I feel there is a steep drop-off after the top 4. Unfortunately, Longoria, ARod, Wright, and Zimmerman were all gone before I picked at 2.05 (The dooosh at #14 took Wright there and Zimmerman at 17). Longo and ARod were actually gone before my pick at 1.11. Best available on my board at 2.5 were Howard, Fielder, and Reyes. While I don't necessarily disagree that I could've waited for another MI later in the draft, I felt it was important to grab a guy that could contribute in 5 cats there. If I take a guy like Howard or Fielder, I'm literally at 0 steals heading into 3.11. The name of the game in the NFBC is keeping your balance, and with 0 steals after two round I would've been left reaching for guys like Pierre or Bourn in rounds 7 or 8 to try to get back on track for a steals target. That negates the power value in starting with AGone/Howard.ETA: I'll admit to having a little man crush on Reyes. His ADP in 82 NFBC satellite leagues was like 23.75, so while I understand taking him at pick #20 might be perceived as taking him early, that's fairly on target with his ADP. I certainly wouldn't be seeing him when I picked again at #41.
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Is that still true with the dearth of HR hittters? It seems like you'll get a couple of OF that can steal by accident no matter what these days while guys that can hit 30+ HRs are much scarcer.Was Youk taken before your 2nd pick?
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:goodposting: Or even teh Bautista.

 
'Notorious T.R.E. said:
'Sammy3469 said:
'RnR said:
'rodg12 said:
'Spartans Rule said:
'Notorious T.R.E. said:
Which 3B were available at 2.05?

:coffee:
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That's where I probably would've gone different. Not a fan of Reyes that high at all. Too many safer picks available.I do love Uggla at 3.11 though.
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:goodposting: That was my biggest problem with your squad. Could've turned that pick into a better 3B or SP. There's enough depth at the 2B position this year that I'm almost always filling my MI spot with one of them. I prefer to wait on one of them rather than pay such a steep price for two SS like you did.
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Heading into the draft, I fully expected to fill 3B within my first 2 picks. I feel there is a steep drop-off after the top 4. Unfortunately, Longoria, ARod, Wright, and Zimmerman were all gone before I picked at 2.05 (The dooosh at #14 took Wright there and Zimmerman at 17). Longo and ARod were actually gone before my pick at 1.11. Best available on my board at 2.5 were Howard, Fielder, and Reyes. While I don't necessarily disagree that I could've waited for another MI later in the draft, I felt it was important to grab a guy that could contribute in 5 cats there. If I take a guy like Howard or Fielder, I'm literally at 0 steals heading into 3.11. The name of the game in the NFBC is keeping your balance, and with 0 steals after two round I would've been left reaching for guys like Pierre or Bourn in rounds 7 or 8 to try to get back on track for a steals target. That negates the power value in starting with AGone/Howard.ETA: I'll admit to having a little man crush on Reyes. His ADP in 82 NFBC satellite leagues was like 23.75, so while I understand taking him at pick #20 might be perceived as taking him early, that's fairly on target with his ADP. I certainly wouldn't be seeing him when I picked again at #41.
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Is that still true with the dearth of HR hittters? It seems like you'll get a couple of OF that can steal by accident no matter what these days while guys that can hit 30+ HRs are much scarcer.Was Youk taken before your 2nd pick?
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:goodposting: Or even teh Bautista.
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Youk was still available. Did give some thought to that. Bautista as well, but no chance I was taking him there.
 
Jerry Blevins is a damn fine pick this late in the draft.

Are we doing rounds 38-40 today like we did 35-37 yesterday? FFA at 10, 12 and 2 EST?

I only have 9 starting pitchers dammit! There are still like 6 players in High-A that I haven't drafted yet!

 
'Eephus said:
If more than 45 total picks have been Monday 6PM Eastern (excluding make-up picks for earlier rounds), we'll do the same free-for-all procedure on Tuesday for rounds 38-40. That's the equivalent of 15 drafters making their allotted three picks. If 45 or fewer picks are on the board Monday, the draft is over after 37 rounds.
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Never mind ... I guess those are our instructions for today.
'oso diablo]if that's not the case said:
No need ... you were right.
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