I predict that the Redskins will take a football player with their next pick.Or trade it for 3 more 7th round picks...
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***OFFICIAL*** Washington Redskins 2011 Off-Season Thread (1 Viewer)
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Johnny Ice
Footballguy
If you think all we traded down for were 7th round picks I advise you to take a look at the draft board again.Freakin PatsAdamSchefter: OAK traded its 2012 2nd-rd pick to NE for Pats 3rd and 4th this year. New England now has double 1s and 2s in 2012. Again.You guys keep thinking you're NE with those 7th round picks...lol...
fatness
Footballguy
Big guy, had 13 TD's last year.I have now displayed my entire wealth of knowledge on Hankerson.
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Sebowski
Footballguy
Anyone's guess between Grossman, Beck, and McNabb.Then Andrew Luck next year.
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
Grossman. Possibly Tyrod Taylor as a developmental guy, who wouldn't stop us from drafting a guy we love next year in the 1st. And the insiders at ES have hinted that we have a decent interest in Young as a FA to compete and try to "fix". We'll see.
Brunell4MVP
Footballguy
The "experts" would be giving this draft an A+ if we had chosen Bowers and Mallet with those 2 picks yesterday. I applaud the Skins for taking players they need, rather than someone high on Mel Kiper's board.
RB and a bunch of OL are the thoughts for today. I also think they are higher on Beck than I would ever expect. No way they pass on Mallet in Rd. 3 if they weren't...regardless of if the kid is a moron. Stanzi, Devlin or Taylor are not the answer, although I think Taylor has good upside with a strong arm and quick feet.
RB and a bunch of OL are the thoughts for today. I also think they are higher on Beck than I would ever expect. No way they pass on Mallet in Rd. 3 if they weren't...regardless of if the kid is a moron. Stanzi, Devlin or Taylor are not the answer, although I think Taylor has good upside with a strong arm and quick feet.
crnerblitz
Footballguy
Bruce Allen & Mike Shannahan 
I could get used to having draft picks. Now if they only would let me do the drafting.
I could get used to having draft picks. Now if they only would let me do the drafting.
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ChrisCooleyFan
Footballguy
Roy Helu come on down
ChrisCooleyFan
Footballguy
Strengths: Very explosive runner with great acceleration to the hole. Shows very good patience to let blocks develop in front of him. Owns the breakaway speed to take it all the way once at the second level. Shows good vision and has a nice cutback move to gain extra yardage. Accelerates quickly off his cut. Carries out play fakes well. Bounces outside, able to get the corner. Breaks through arm tackles, lowers his shoulder and plows ahead for extra yards in the open field. Utilizes the stiff arm well. Displays great agility, regularly makes the first defender miss. Runs good routes and makes good use of head and body fakes to create separation. Possesses leadership qualities, earned a reputation for being a real team player. Weaknesses: Often hesitant at the line of scrimmage, neutralizing his size and speed. Not consistent as an inside power runner, goes down too easily at times. Does not keep his legs moving when wrapped up. Offers very little in pass protection, tends to lunge at the defender and is prone to missing blocks. Can get overwhelmed by the pass rush. Ineffective cut blocker. Plays on his heels and struggles handling a speed rusher. Has poor awareness of who to pick up when lead blocking. Breaks out of his stance early and can give away the snap count. Was not used much in the passing game this past season, though he has experience on swing passes
ChrisCooleyFan
Footballguy
I agree with Toddman
Warrior
Footballguy
I didn't realize they traded up...
"Redskins traded up with the Texans to select Nebraska RB Roy Helu with the No. 105 overall pick in the 2011 NFL draft.
One of our favorite late-round sleepers, Helu is an ideal fit for Mike Shanahan's one-cut zone-blocking scheme. While not physical or especially elusive, Helu can get downhill quickly and is dynamite in the open field. His college counting stats are underwhelming due to the Cornhuskers' committee attack, but his Combine numbers were off the charts for a player of his 6'0/220 size. Ryan Torain should enter the season as the starter, but Helu is absolutely an in-"
"Redskins traded up with the Texans to select Nebraska RB Roy Helu with the No. 105 overall pick in the 2011 NFL draft.
One of our favorite late-round sleepers, Helu is an ideal fit for Mike Shanahan's one-cut zone-blocking scheme. While not physical or especially elusive, Helu can get downhill quickly and is dynamite in the open field. His college counting stats are underwhelming due to the Cornhuskers' committee attack, but his Combine numbers were off the charts for a player of his 6'0/220 size. Ryan Torain should enter the season as the starter, but Helu is absolutely an in-"
Eastwood
Footballguy
This is EXACTLY what we didn't have, that most other teams do have. I'm happy with this pick
Warrior
Footballguy
Agreed. He's a good compliment to torain, who doesn't have the speed, but can break tackles all day.
southeastjerome
Footballguy
I completely agree. I know very little about Helu, but it seems that he was their guy and everyone seems to be saying that he's a good fit. Getting all of these extra picks and not reaching for a QB.
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
I can't shake the feeling that we should have grabbed Hunter there, but I'm warming up to the pick.
dgreen
Footballguy
They still have four more picks.
nittanylion
Footballguy
Niles Paul has stud potential written all over him, and with the RB situation as it stands, we could do a lot worse than Evan Royster.
There are still developmental NFL Linemen out there...
There are still developmental NFL Linemen out there...
Harjiran
Footballguy
Can you expand on Royster? Given your handle, I assume you may have some insight into why we took him. From what I've read so far, he hasn't received the greatest reviews.
Harjiran
Footballguy
Skins select a 5'9 CB. 3 picks to go.
southeastjerome
Footballguy
In the 6th and 7th round you don't find too many players that you need to win games. When a team tries to fill certain positions in the late rounds instead of staying loyal to their board, they get in trouble. It is all about getting guys who can make the roster, anything beyond that is gravy.
Harjiran
Footballguy
Yet the fact remains that this team needs a lot of help on both lines and thus far they have selected exactly one player who addresses this critical need.
ChrisCooleyFan
Footballguy
Really dont know why we didnt sure up the oline. So if we do look at Luck next year, he will get killed.
Eastwood
Footballguy
Darrell Green was how tall?
Sebowski
Footballguy
Good point. Would have been nice to grab at least one starter for the OLine in the draft. Much easier to find WRs and RBs. One of those picks or more should have been OLine guys, imo.
Harjiran
Footballguy
I sure hope he's as good as Darrell. I was hoping they would pick a lineman.
fatness
Footballguy
Summary of Weaknesses: Hesitant at LOSStops legs and goes down too easyLousy pass blocker Lousy pass blocker Lousy pass blocker Lousy pass blocker Lousy pass blocker Lousy pass blocker Lousy pass blocker Lousy pass blocker
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Warrior
Footballguy
Yet they addressed the ciritcal need of WR, CB, and LB. Oh, and RB.Can't please them all I guess. Someone is always going to poo poo on the picks no matter what.
Harjiran
Footballguy
I was 100% on board with everything they did until the fourth round. After that, meh. I guess I had my hopes up due to the masterful way they were trading down. They need to build both those lines.
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southeastjerome
Footballguy
Again, if you are looking to satisfy needs in rounds 5-7, you're barking up the wrong tree in my opinion. I am all for going for the best player on your board. They have so many needs, it is really hard to question any of the late picks. Just because OL is a need, are you really going to draft a player that you have lower on your board than another player? Name a player or two right now that you would like to have seen them draft for the oline in rounds 6 or 7. See what those guys end up doing.
Harjiran
Footballguy
Lee Ziemba and Steve Schilling are two that come to mind. I understand what you're saying and I'll give Shanahan the benefit of the doubt for now. But perhaps you can understand my frustration given this team's general neglect of both lines during the past decade. With Cerrato finally gone and Trent Williams on board last year, I was hoping that strategy had changed.
Maybe Shanahan isn't as concerned about the OL. With big Mike Williams coming back (I assume he is), Trent Williams at LT, Litenstieger or Montgomer at center, maybe a single free agent signing can really shore up the unit. They could also be high on two draft picks from last year, Eric Cook and Selvish Capers. Or a not so rosy possibility: maybe they misjudged where the OL targets were going to be drafted and they were gone before they could draft them. Regardless, I am surprised they only took one offensive linemen very late in the draft.
Brunell4MVP
Footballguy
No fix at QB and no fix at RT. Those are two places with limited options in free agency.
Notice ARI didn't pick a QB. I'm guessing that'll be Kolb. Outside shot McNabb is our QB this year? I'm starting to think it.
Notice ARI didn't pick a QB. I'm guessing that'll be Kolb. Outside shot McNabb is our QB this year? I'm starting to think it.
southeastjerome
Footballguy
I hear you. I would like to see more bodies to compete for spots on the oline, but year in and year out there are guys that everyone is hot on in the late rounds and they turn out to be practice squad guys. Everyone was pumped when we signed Selvish Capers last year and he ended up on the practice squad. He's still young, but again, there is a reason these guys go so late. Few can be depended on to be difference makers in a starting role. I'd rather get a potential starter or even difference maker at any position than to reach for a need this late.
There were some rumors (PFT) that Arizona has a deal worked out with Marc Bulger.
somebody said it here already but the skins are finally rebuilding. this is good. making moves to get more picks and steering away from the better known "sexier" profile guys is an indication that we are finally looking beyond the current upcoming season. if shan and company have force-fed some patience down snieder's throat, then not addressing qb or even the front line if this year's targets weren't there for us when our picks were up is not a bad thing. we're taking a longer range approach, boys. it's way overdue.
so we have to emmulate what we need snieder to learn and stick with -- patience. and if that means we have to suffer through a 2011 where the team really struggles, so be it. just hope and pray the owner can stay chill too, so we can see this thing built right and not rushed.
so we have to emmulate what we need snieder to learn and stick with -- patience. and if that means we have to suffer through a 2011 where the team really struggles, so be it. just hope and pray the owner can stay chill too, so we can see this thing built right and not rushed.
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