LargeMouthBass
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I can't believe I ended up getting Foster with the 4th pick in my money league. Should I be arrested for stealing? Or am I being played?
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thatguythere
Footballguy
Dropped all the way to 7 in our 10 teamer.
dhockster
Footballguy
I think when you are looking at the top half of the first round, you cannot afford a bust. I think because of Foster's nagging Hamstring issue, peopleare shying away from him because he has some risk attached. If he's healthy all season, you got a great RB. If he is in and out of the line-up all season, your FF team is probably going to struggle.
So, when do they bring him back? How do they know when he is 100% and is at no risk for re-injury? If the doctors say he is fine and he says he is fine, how many more weeks do you rest him?
Grahamburn
Footballguy
I face him in two leagues, so week 2? Seriously though, if I'm the coaching staff he'd be held out this week for precautionary reasons. It's obvious this injury needs more than two weeks to heal as evidenced by re-injury in the 3rd preseason game. Foster could damage himself permanently.'Hoosier16 said:
dhockster
Footballguy
This week is not a good week to be an Arian Foster owner:
-You do not know how much he is going to play
-You do not know how much the hamstring will effect his play
-If he does well in the first half, and the Texans build up a big lead (which
is reasonably likely with Manning out), he probably won't play in the second half.
Because he is a stud RB, you almost have to start him, but I don't see much upside
unless he runs for 2 TD's and 100 yards in the first half (which he has the capability
to do against the Colts).
-You do not know how much he is going to play
-You do not know how much the hamstring will effect his play
-If he does well in the first half, and the Texans build up a big lead (which
is reasonably likely with Manning out), he probably won't play in the second half.
Because he is a stud RB, you almost have to start him, but I don't see much upside
unless he runs for 2 TD's and 100 yards in the first half (which he has the capability
to do against the Colts).
rizzler
Footballguy
I see PLENTY of upside. Lets not forget he PLAYED the 2nd preseason game after hurting his hammy and did AMAZINGLY well...This time, the injury, according to all sources close to HOU/FOster is much less severe, and Foster says he is ready to play.If the hammy stays warm, and doesnt flare up (which is obviously the hope), his upside is higher than ANY RB this week. He is my RB1, and I have no more worries about starting him than I am starting any RB any week.Things will play themselves out the way theyre supposed to. Speculating is pointless because this whole injury has been a clusterfunk of what's what.
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Shutout
Footballguy
Any week is a good week to be a Foster owner; beats the heck out of being a Lynch owner.Seriously, every scenario you mention is true but if the Texans say he will play, I don't know how far you can go into assuming they will have a big lead or will do this or that in the game. This is a division game and divisional opponents tend to play each other close. This game is beyond HUGE for the Texans. Their ticket to the playoffs lies in getting past the Colts this year. So, I guess a foster owner could play it safe and bet on things happening but if he's a go, what's really the difference between starting him and going with your #2 (who could just as easily pull HIS hammy in the 1st quarter)?
All players on all your FF teams are at risk of getting hurt on every play so, with all things being relatively equal, start the guy that has the better chance of putting up big points (I had games last year where Foster scored more in one half than my opponents did in the whole game...worth the risk).
rizzler
Footballguy
People keep underestimating, for some unknown reason, how BIG it is for Houston to win this game. If Foster says he is ready to go, he will be out there. He will put up big numbers. And hopefully, he will stay healthy.
rizzler
Footballguy
+1he was hot yoga'ing last night.I'm sure most of you know what that is. And it sure as hell isn't getting done with a half-arsed hamstring.
GregR
Footballguy
To be accurate, McClain said that there was no way the Texans would be able to sign Nnamdi or another big free agent because the team would not have cap room. Which was obviously wrong. After it was known the Texans were going after Nnamdi, McClain tweeted:
I'm sure it was McClain who had to realize they could redo contracts, not the Texans. This is a good example of my perception of him. He's great at reporting what the team tells him, and he seems to have the team's ear more than any other reporter so hears more. But he doesn't seem to have many sources beyond the official word, nor does he do a great job when he's having to put the pieces together himself rather than just parrot the team's view.
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Heh, I knew I should have used a different example, but it's the most recent.It was his contention that Houston wouldn't even have been a factor.As it turns out, the Texans were obviously very much capable of signing him. According to Rick Smith, the Texans could have signed Nnamdi if they wanted to, but opted to go CB+S versus just CB. Not saying McClain is useless, just that propping him up as "one of the most reliable guys in the business" if misleading, if not false.
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ImTheScientist
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Foster won't play and if he does he will be VERY limited. He will burn plenty this week...should be fun. Start Ben Tate with confidence.
Grahamburn
Footballguy
So that play against San Francisco where Foster drives his legs forward into the pile, comes up limping, gingerly walks toward the bench, chucks his helmet, and then tweets a picture of a partially torn hamstring is all an elaborate ruse to make us silly fantasy footballers think he's injured? Got it.
LawFitz
Footballguy
rizzler
Footballguy
Yes. exactly what I wrote.
Grahamburn
Footballguy
You agreed with the above poster that insisted "everything is fine." I don't know what "hot yoga'ing" is, but I doubt it's as intense on your legs as an NFL football game.
rizzler
Footballguy
Yes. I do think his hammy is well enough to play. Sunday we'll know for sure.As for hot yoga, it is VERY intense. The slow, methodic movements require each muscle to twist, stretch and contract for prolonged periods of time.You agreed with the above poster that insisted "everything is fine." I don't know what "hot yoga'ing" is, but I doubt it's as intense on your legs as an NFL football game.
This causes immense strain on the muscles. My girlfriend is a part-time (recreational) regular yoga instructor, and doing this even when healthy is a challenge. With a bum hamstring, it's just not happening.
I'm sure you can find a video on youtube of what hot yoga is. And you'll probably get some fantastic female booty shots as well. I'll check this out myself when get home from work.
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GroveDiesel
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Ok, and he took exactly ZERO snaps after aggravating it in Week 3 of the preseason. And he looked great right up until that point in that game. So who is to say that he doesn't go out there and do THE EXACT SAME THING this week?Hamstrings are tricky. He may be completely healed up and ready to go. Or, he may feel great and go out there and re-aggravate it once he gets into an actual game situation and makes a hard cut. The bottom line is that he does carry some risk. More than Adrian Peterson or Ray Rice right now. Yeah, those guys COULD get hurt too, but they're 100% right now and everyone knows they're 100%.
shadyridr
Footballguy
pics?Yes. I do think his hammy is well enough to play. Sunday we'll know for sure.As for hot yoga, it is VERY intense. The slow, methodic movements require each muscle to twist, stretch and contract for prolonged periods of time.You agreed with the above poster that insisted "everything is fine." I don't know what "hot yoga'ing" is, but I doubt it's as intense on your legs as an NFL football game.
This causes immense strain on the muscles. My girlfriend is a part-time (recreational) regular yoga instructor, and doing this even when healthy is a challenge. With a bum hamstring, it's just not happening.
I'm sure you can find a video on youtube of what hot yoga is. And you'll probably get some fantastic female booty shots as well. I'll check this out myself when get home from work.
rizzler
Footballguy
Uh huh, now read what my last sentence of that post was.He could re-injure it. Might not. Might go for 200/3, might go for 20/0There is no way of knowing. But if he says he's healthy enough to play, you play him. That's all I'm saying.Sitting him 5 weeks may not mean eff all of a difference. he could go out week 6 and blow his hammy again on his first carry.I just personally think if he says he's ready, he's ready. From there on, it's just a matter of fate (or whatever you believe in)
solorca
Footballguy
As someone who is playing against the Foster owner this week, I'm patiently waiting to see the injury report out of Houston today. I remember going through this with Steve Smith a few years ago, and he (and everyone else within the team) was confident that he would be starting on opening day. He was questionable all week, but participated in practice so everything seemed fine. At about 12:15 on Sunday, he was announced as out.
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
Well, I agree that if you own him, you have to start him unless some other news breaks. But I don't think that a guy saying he's "ready" necessarily means he's ready. Especially when dealing with an injury like a hamstring or a groin injury. Hopefully for Foster owners, he's 100% and his new diet prevents any future problems.But I think anyone acting like it's insane that he has been going in the 4-7 range of recent drafts is much less risk adverse than a lot of other people in the first round.
solorca
Footballguy
Exactly. It's not like you're choosing between Arian Foster and Tim Hightower. You are making a choice between him and people like Jamaal Charles, Leseasn McCoy, etc. At that point, they are all good choices (at least this early in the year).
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
He also said Foater is day-to-day. That's still not what I'd be happy to hear days before Opening Day.
Louisville Slugger
Footballguy
Rotoworld is reporting that Foster is "day to day" which isn't exactly what I wanted to hear a few days before the season opens. I can't believe that I took this guy knowing he has a lingering injury. I have a bad feeling this is going to get a lot worse for us Foster owners before it gets better.
Texans characterize RB Foster as 'day to day'
The Texans are classifying Arian Foster (hamstring) as "day to day" for their Week 1 game against Indianapolis.
"The progress has been very good, and I know that there was more progress today," said coach Gary Kubiak. Kubiak also revealed that Foster "went a little harder today in his rehab." The Texans will make their participation report available later Wednesday. We suspect Foster will be "no practice," or "limited," in a best case scenario. He is tentatively expected to play in Week 1.
http://www.rotoworld.com/headlines/nfl/212001/texans-characterize-rb-foster-as-day-to-day
Texans characterize RB Foster as 'day to day'
The Texans are classifying Arian Foster (hamstring) as "day to day" for their Week 1 game against Indianapolis.
"The progress has been very good, and I know that there was more progress today," said coach Gary Kubiak. Kubiak also revealed that Foster "went a little harder today in his rehab." The Texans will make their participation report available later Wednesday. We suspect Foster will be "no practice," or "limited," in a best case scenario. He is tentatively expected to play in Week 1.
http://www.rotoworld.com/headlines/nfl/212001/texans-characterize-rb-foster-as-day-to-day
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Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
It comes across more like you're trying to will him into playing.I think anyone claiming to know either way is fooling themselves.My draft isn't until Saturday and even by then we'll likely not know the truth. When I'm OTC at pick No. 5 if he's still there, frankly I'm not sure what I'm going to do.
rizzler
Footballguy
??? Willing him to play ??? I've said over and over, I really don't know what to expect. The only facts I'm going on are the increased physical activities he is participating in and beat writers/reporters in the HOU area all saying he looks poised to start.For all I know, he looks and feels great, but still sits. And that's 100% fine with me. I'll plug in Ward and/or Tate. The only thing that's baffling me is, with all the increasingly positive news coming out of HOU, why people are becoming increasingly worried. We know the injury (at least to a degree), and we know what he is and isn't doing physically... I'd be crapping bricks if he was still sidelined, hobbling, in pain, unable to function.But that's clearly not the case. So I'm just being optimistic, while also being prepared.
Silver & Black
Footballguy
I'm a Foster owner and like all other Foster owners, am frustrated by the lack of substantive info on him for week 1. However, I am of the opinion that all the hoopla about him will be resolved AFTER week 1. The problem is simply deciding what to do this week.
I honestly believe he got upset with all the twitter activity when he aggravated his hammy. He then posted a picture of the MRI from his first injury as a sort of F you to the people who tweeted him. Since that tweet went out, he has been jogging and progressing in what appears to be a favorable manner in his recovery. All signs indicate he will be ready to go in week 1.
But therein lies the problem. It's the "all signs point to" that has me concerned.
If he doesn't play or only plays a limited role to see how he fares, he could cost a fantasy team a "W". I am therefore seriously considering hedging my bets and starting Bradshaw in his place. If Foster dominates and comes out unscathed, well then I will be sorry I missed his points but happy moving forward. If he doesn't play or aggravates the hammy etc., then I have a fighting chance for points with Bradshaw.
In the end, I think Foster is going to be fine. I like hearing him talk about changing his diet and I think he will be no more prone to injury than any other full time back. I'm just not willing to risk it yet in week 1 and want to see it to believe it. Unless I hear great news by Sunday, I'm rolling with Bradshaw instead and hoping for the best.
I honestly believe he got upset with all the twitter activity when he aggravated his hammy. He then posted a picture of the MRI from his first injury as a sort of F you to the people who tweeted him. Since that tweet went out, he has been jogging and progressing in what appears to be a favorable manner in his recovery. All signs indicate he will be ready to go in week 1.
But therein lies the problem. It's the "all signs point to" that has me concerned.
If he doesn't play or only plays a limited role to see how he fares, he could cost a fantasy team a "W". I am therefore seriously considering hedging my bets and starting Bradshaw in his place. If Foster dominates and comes out unscathed, well then I will be sorry I missed his points but happy moving forward. If he doesn't play or aggravates the hammy etc., then I have a fighting chance for points with Bradshaw.
In the end, I think Foster is going to be fine. I like hearing him talk about changing his diet and I think he will be no more prone to injury than any other full time back. I'm just not willing to risk it yet in week 1 and want to see it to believe it. Unless I hear great news by Sunday, I'm rolling with Bradshaw instead and hoping for the best.
Grahamburn
Footballguy
Not. Gonna. Play.
RUSF18
Footballguy
If he's out, people won't play him. If he's in the lineup, people will play him. We'll know by Sunday.How is this thread still continuing?
Grahamburn
Footballguy
Not much else to talk about.
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
DevilintheDetail
Footballguy
Link?
shadyridr
Footballguy
so he went from "hell be fine" and making humurous posts on twitter to not knowing if he was playing? damn me for taking him 5th over charles
jdoggydogg
Footballguy
No. I own Foster and Tate in a dynasty league, but Tate enthusiasts seem to want to ignore Derrick Ward. Ward isn't as talented or as fresh as Tate is. But all accounts say that Ward's a better blocker. Do I think Tate would beat out Ward over the course of the season? Absolutely. But for week one, Ward is the safer start.
PatsFanCT
Footballguy
I have the 5th pick tonight and will probably go Andre Johnson over Foster... Maybe even over Charles.
We Tigers
Footballguy
I'll maintain, as I have in every other thread about this, that there really won't be a lot to see if he doesn't play. Tate and Ward will probably see 8-12 carries apiece; Ward is better in pass protection and the #2 back on the depth chart, Tate is an explosive young player with potential. Maybe one of them gets 70-100 total yards and has a chance at scoring, but who knows which it'll be. I would be looking at a guy you drafted as your RB3 or even RB4 over either Ward or Tate in week 1. For example, I own Foster, but I also own Mike Tolbert, and Ward is on our waiver wire. I'm certainly not picking up Ward in a situation that's this unclear; you'll just be guessing. Everybody should have somebody decent on the bench, whether it's Tolbert, Starks, Brandon Jacobs...right? Or am I the only guy who backs up his RBs during the draft?
rizzler
Footballguy
Hook. Line. Sinker.taking fantasy owners for a ride... and I love it
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NE_REVIVAL
Footballguy
Just my
but he is not playing. Why would they bring him back so soon and take the huge risk of ruining him for another month or more? IMHO, it would be insane to play him so soon, in the 1st game of the year against an opponent they should handily beat anyway. We shall see 
