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Personally I think he wants to come back now but that will depend on the experts.
So did he really seem like he felt fine? I am sure there is difference in football fine and every day fine though.
Best looked fine, but when he stood up he is very small and not stocky like most NFL RBs.http://www.flickr.com/photos/46677494@N03/6316417930/
I don't like the sound of that.
Thanks for the story. Seems like a very cool guy, I hope he makes it back and stays safe.
I don't think this is any read on Best. Smith will fill Harrison's role now that he's not with the team.
If he gets a third this year, I think there's a good chance he doesn't come back from that. I think the Lions will go hard for Michael Bush or Hillis in the offseason regardless of what happens with Best. They can't expect Leshoure to come back from that injury and perform like he did in college. If he does, great....but they need to make other plans. If they can land Michael Bush, I think they'll be very happy with him being the starter with Best as the COP/3rd down.As the other owners in my league had told me 3 weeks ago, "You got some balls dropping Best into waivers".Well, I couldn't trade him, had a hunch they were shutting him down... if he plays and gets his 3rd concuss this year, what are his future prospects?If they IR him, at least Detroit can say they can start fresh next year with him and Mikel Leshoure.
If he gets a third this year, I think there's a good chance he doesn't come back from that. I think the Lions will go hard for Michael Bush or Hillis in the offseason regardless of what happens with Best. They can't expect Leshoure to come back from that injury and perform like he did in college. If he does, great....but they need to make other plans. If they can land Michael Bush, I think they'll be very happy with him being the starter with Best as the COP/3rd down.As the other owners in my league had told me 3 weeks ago, "You got some balls dropping Best into waivers".Well, I couldn't trade him, had a hunch they were shutting him down... if he plays and gets his 3rd concuss this year, what are his future prospects?If they IR him, at least Detroit can say they can start fresh next year with him and Mikel Leshoure.
You think they will not give him his normal touches if he fully recovers and gets medically cleared?
No. Maybe I'm wrong, but I think he'll be limited going forward even if cleared medically. Just really doubt he'll get enough touches each game to be worth a start in fantasy. I especially have a hard time seeing him getting goal line totes. Again, maybe that's not what will happen, but I think a distribution will be set up and his piece of the pie will be less than before the last concussion.
I would think that if the doctors give the thumbs up that it is safe for him to play, that he would resume his normal role. Of course this recent signing of Kevin Smith could suggest that they want to give some of his touches to Smith...but hopefully Smith is just a backup plan. I certainly wouldn't flat out cut him unless you absolutely need to pick someone up. There should be some update coming soon.
It's not like he was a carry hog.Even when he was putting up top 6 PPR RB numbers (over the first 6 weeks) he was only averaging 14 carries and 4.5 receptions per game. Take out his anomalous high carry game week 1 of 21 carries, and he is averaging 12.5 carries a game.Point is, he's not the type of players that needs a lot of touches to be a worthy fantasy start.
Good points. And especially for PPR leagues, as long as he's also getting those 4, 5, 6 touches through the air and the yards that come with it, he should be fine for owners. I don't see a reason why people are suddenly panicking, although the Kevin Smith signing makes me a little uneasy. But I would have thought the time for panicking would be a few weeks ago when he got the second concussion. He just said this past weekend that he feels fine, plans to play again this season, but hasn't had word on possibly being cleared because of the bye week. The signs are pointing towards him coming back soon. And if the Lions weren't planning on utilizing his skills after he gets cleared, then why wouldn't they just IR him. Maybe he'll have to ease back in for a game or two, since I'm assuming he has been told not to exercise and hasn't been practicing. But after a week or so after coming back, I can't see why they wouldn't put him in his normal role.
As the other owners in my league had told me 3 weeks ago, "You got some balls dropping Best into waivers".Well, I couldn't trade him, had a hunch they were shutting him down... if he plays and gets his 3rd concuss this year, what are his future prospects?If they IR him, at least Detroit can say they can start fresh next year with him and Mikel Leshoure.
You could be right that they might shut him down. And dropping or trading him would have made some sense 3 weeks ago if you could pick someone up. But at this point, we should be getting an update real soon. So if you held this long, I don't see a reason to cut him now, before we get this weeks update.As the other owners in my league had told me 3 weeks ago, "You got some balls dropping Best into waivers".Well, I couldn't trade him, had a hunch they were shutting him down... if he plays and gets his 3rd concuss this year, what are his future prospects?If they IR him, at least Detroit can say they can start fresh next year with him and Mikel Leshoure.
Oh yeah, I see your Best/DMAC backfield and raise you my Best/DMAC/Hillis 3 headed monster!We start 2 rb and a flex. I was so giddy week 3.
OUCH!No flex here...but I am left without a #2 back for the foreseeable, and no one is willing to move someone to me. I mean, guys like Jonathon Stewart, James Starks and even BJGE are off limits.
The hope is that he gets cleared this week when he goes through whatever kind of tests they need him to do. Then he has to get back to practicing and working out which is why it is doubtful he'd play this week even if cleared. Week 11 makes more sense.
Didn't see that anywhere. THanks for the insight.
It's my understanding that he hasn't had any tests recently because of the bye week. So until he goes through the next round of tests, which is this week, none of these reports really offer anything new.
It's certainly possible if this next round of tests show him still having lingering effects. It would be nice to know when this week the tests are scheduled for.
If i'm completely wrong, as you say over and over again. Then why would a player that gets multiple concussions(troy aikman, steve young, hunter hillenmeyer, etc) have to retire then?It's a messy area for sure. But, the research does not support your position. The known neuroanatomy and metabolic sequelae resulting from concussions do not support your position. The rodent models do not support your position. The football players of the past do not support your position either. You are confusing correlation with causation. You can choose to believe whatever you would like, but just know that this position you are staking ground on is not supported by the research and is not in line with Bob Stern and Robert Cantu and Anne Mckee and countless other experts in neuroscience who posit that the neural cascade of effects of concussion once resolved...are resolved.It has occurred to me and I believe it's possible. But you don't think it's possible that one concussion leads to another. Or that having multiple concussions leads to a higher chance of another concussion.Concussions are a new topic without a ton of research, when compared to the rest the body. All I can base it off of is what i've read/researched + football players past results. If we ignore the past, we are in denial IMO.Has the thought occurred to you that some people...some brains...might be more vulnerable to concussions even before sustaining a first blow to the head? I never said or implied those guys should get right back in there. In fact, I feel just the opposite. But, it's not because I think that they had a concussion, their brains are NOW susceptible to new concussions.Then please explain why Troy Aikman and Steve Young were getting concussion after concussion and it ended their careers? According to you, they can just play again because they have the same probability of getting a concussion than someone who has never had one before.What about Austin Collie who had a severe concussion early in the year last year, then the first game back from that injury has another severe concussion. Must've been the worst luck ever!!!
How about Best have potentially 3 concussions already this season after multiple in college, these guys must just have bad luck
I have a hard time following that logic. If a player is cleared to play, then he is cleared to play. The idea of mothering a player sounds a lot like...well, your mother trying to keep you from getting hurt when you were a kid. Injuries happen in football and they are not always the violent collisions. In fact, Best's concussions have never been when he got whacked at the goal line or anything. One was a high flying circus act and the other two were tackles where his head whipped to the turf (so i really don't know how people want to connect "x" number of carries or inside running to the concussions.With all that said, I get it and agree: multiple concussions make you concerned going forward. But for all the guys listed as having forced from the game because of them, there are others who are not. DJAX has been concussed VIOLENTLY every year he has been in the league. But when he cam back, he came back. they didn't stop running him across the middle, etc. I just think its much more "logical" than what people are trying to guess at. He must pass the tests. Then he gets cleared. Then he plays and we all hope he stays healthy. But to ask any professional athlete to play their sport at a reduced degree or to play it differently rarely is ever truly asked or done. A baseball player gets his head taken off with a fastball...doesn't result in him coming back and changing his stance by moving out of the box 6 inches further. Its sports. It will be what it will be.
I'm wondering the same thing. Schwartz had some good things to say about him when they signed him - looked quick, in good shape, knows the offense, etc.Unfortunately, Morris knows the offense too and isn't playing too badly, so hard to tell how this is going to play out if Best is indeed shut down for the year.
If Best doesn't return, I'd probably just stay away from the whole situation. But I'd think that Maurice Morris would be the guy to own.
If you fully recover from one concussion, you are no more likely to get another than you had been previously. That has been demonstrated, scientifically.I believe, however, that some people might be more susceptible to concussions than others (just as some people are more prone to get migraines). To my knowledge, this has not been scientifically proven, it is just my opinion. If I'm right, however, that might explain why guys like Troy Aikman sustained so many concussions.As to why sufferers of multiple concussions would "have" to retire; that's a personal choice each must make. It has been suggested that multiple concussions can lead to brain damage, so each individual must weigh whether he wants to risk his brain & quality of life by risking future concussions (and regardless of whether you believe 1 concussion makes it more likely to get another or not, I think we can all agree that ALL football players are at risk of sustaining concussions).
I think we have to hear from Kevin Smith before we can determine that. He certainly will take time to get in football shape but......this guy was a solid RB2 on the 0-16 Lions in 2008. He was a low end RB2 in 13 games for the 2-14 Lions in 2009.They are much better now and have added depth to their line. He has had plenty of time to get his knee right. He is still young. If he is close to what he was in 2008 he could be the guy.
I was surprised to see he's not even 25 yet. IF Best is out for an extended period of time/the season, I could see Smith having an impact after a few weeks.
If Smith gets a few carries this week and gets hot then he will start next week.
Good points. He could be a lottery ticket worth picking up if you can find room.And it's not like he has stiff competition to deal with if Best doesn't come back.
