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yea, but its a dry heat.I was doing some runs last year in 105. I was not going very fast but I was out there. I am kinda sure I am done doing that.So how hot is too hot to run?![]()
yea, but its a dry heat.I was doing some runs last year in 105. I was not going very fast but I was out there. I am kinda sure I am done doing that.So how hot is too hot to run?![]()
Hit the itb stratches hard and it will be gone in a week. Roller treats, stretches fix.Set out to do 5 fairly easy today and ended up cutting it short at 4.5 / 8:33. Started getting some pain on outside of right knee (and below knee) around 4 miles. Had pretty much the same issue in my last run again right around mile 4. Iced my knee for a bit and it is still moderately sore. Seems like this is probably my ITB? If so should I scale things back for a bit? Foam roller? Is there a specific kind?
Hit the itb stratches hard and it will be gone in a week. Roller treats, stretches fix.Set out to do 5 fairly easy today and ended up cutting it short at 4.5 / 8:33. Started getting some pain on outside of right knee (and below knee) around 4 miles. Had pretty much the same issue in my last run again right around mile 4. Iced my knee for a bit and it is still moderately sore. Seems like this is probably my ITB? If so should I scale things back for a bit? Foam roller? Is there a specific kind?
Also go get a massage (deep tissue) and tell the MT that you're having some ITB soreness. They'll pinpoint the massage better than a roller would (not that a roller is bad or anything).Good ITB article
Well, duh!...but nice girl with nice ### in front of me, so I can't fall back!Felt hard at some points...
nice job, congrats!Clocked in at 24.09 with a new PR by 10 seconds
ETA:
84/339 overall
and 3rd in my age group again. I was eating and near loud music so no clue if i got a prize again.
Dude. 10K is probably the worst distance there is. Hurts sooooooo bad. I've broken 40 minutes once, and I'm not sure if I care if I ever do it again. I've got one on 6/9, so we'll see.10k tomorrow. My goal originally was 39:59 but I'm just not feeling it. I guess I'll be ok with anything under 42:00. I'm just not sure I'm mentally ready to push myself hard enough to get under 40 minutes yet. Yes, I'm a poosay. :(
I needed my water to wet my hair for the finish line photos...
WTF taught you this? It certainly wasn't me. Great job on the run!This may help both of youDude. 10K is probably the worst distance there is. Hurts sooooooo bad. I've broken 40 minutes once, and I'm not sure if I care if I ever do it again. I've got one on 6/9, so we'll see.10k tomorrow. My goal originally was 39:59 but I'm just not feeling it. I guess I'll be ok with anything under 42:00. I'm just not sure I'm mentally ready to push myself hard enough to get under 40 minutes yet.
Yes, I'm a poosay. :(
Ha Ha. Ouch.This may help both of youDude. 10K is probably the worst distance there is. Hurts sooooooo bad. I've broken 40 minutes once, and I'm not sure if I care if I ever do it again. I've got one on 6/9, so we'll see.10k tomorrow. My goal originally was 39:59 but I'm just not feeling it. I guess I'll be ok with anything under 42:00. I'm just not sure I'm mentally ready to push myself hard enough to get under 40 minutes yet.
Yes, I'm a poosay. :(
Temps are coming down for my marathon on Sunday. Looks like we'll be in the low to mid 70's so I'm thinking we are safe. My training has been sporadic so I'm thinking a 3:45-3:50 marathon is probably in store. I'll probably go out about 3:38-3:40 marathon pace to begin and see how I feel.I'll post tracking info on Saturday for anyone who wants to "run" with me.
Go get'm GB.Shaved head (like I have a choice) isI needed my water to wet my hair for the finish line photos...WTF taught you this? It certainly wasn't me. Great job on the run!
Much more aero too.
Sponsored by me...no. Endorsed...Is this sponsored by PSL?![]()
The Protein Boost 4-Mile Burst (nut, mile, repeat 3 times - assistance allowed)Best known effort: rumored to be 53 minutes
re: Protein Boost! No offense to the ladies in my life, but I'd likely be quicker without assistance
You notice that most of our tris have swim temps above what they shut down northern run events.
Texas IM last weekend had the temp's in high 80's for winners, and 90's for vast majority.
Giddy'upthanks BNB and Ned. I'm going to head out and pick up a roller. I'll try some of those stretches in the office today.
I needed my water to wet my hair for the finish line photos.
HTFU boys. HTFU.Dude. 10K is probably the worst distance there is. Hurts sooooooo bad. I've broken 40 minutes once, and I'm not sure if I care if I ever do it again. I've got one on 6/9, so we'll see.10k tomorrow. My goal originally was 39:59 but I'm just not feeling it. I guess I'll be ok with anything under 42:00. I'm just not sure I'm mentally ready to push myself hard enough to get under 40 minutes yet. Yes, I'm a poosay. :(
Good luck Steel!____________________________My update:I spent most of yesterday getting a new car, so I only had time for one workout. I did P90x Back and Legs. I'll make up for it today. This morning I did Ab Ripper X; I'll do 1,600 in the pool this afternoon, and Drunk Crossfit tonight (= every Friday we chug a beer between every setTemps are coming down for my marathon on Sunday. Looks like we'll be in the low to mid 70's so I'm thinking we are safe. My training has been sporadic so I'm thinking a 3:45-3:50 marathon is probably in store. I'll probably go out about 3:38-3:40 marathon pace to begin and see how I feel.I'll post tracking info on Saturday for anyone who wants to "run" with me.
. I pretty much consider this my new sport as it combines 2 of my passions (
+
).Some traits you are just naturally talented and skilled with.I needed my water to wet my hair for the finish line photos...WTF taught you this? It certainly wasn't me. Great job on the run!
This may help both of youDude. 10K is probably the worst distance there is. Hurts sooooooo bad. I've broken 40 minutes once, and I'm not sure if I care if I ever do it again. I've got one on 6/9, so we'll see.10k tomorrow. My goal originally was 39:59 but I'm just not feeling it. I guess I'll be ok with anything under 42:00. I'm just not sure I'm mentally ready to push myself hard enough to get under 40 minutes yet.
Yes, I'm a poosay. :(
2Young meeting W.Shaved head (like I have a choice) isI needed my water to wet my hair for the finish line photos...WTF taught you this? It certainly wasn't me. Great job on the run!
Much more aero too.
:jealous: Have a blast!!!c numb - nice PR! I love the accidental medal ..again.![]()
Steel Curtain - run a strong marathon!! Do well.
Hang 10 - sometimes when I feel the worst is when I race strong. Hopefully the sound of the gun will send you off on a great race.
I have my 10 miler in the a.m. with Wraith ..a big race based from Chicago's Soldier Field. Hard to tell what the weather will do. We're supposed to have some storms tonight and/or tomorrow. Hopefully that means overcast, but not heavy rain. It's a 7:00 a.m. start, so we'll avoid some of the heat that might occur. My target is to get my pace down to around 7:05/mile and let the HR climb a little higher than my recent long races (so a sub-1:11 race).
I hear ya. I think my most recent 5k is whats discouraged me. I ran a pretty decent time but my God did it suck... I'm not so sure I care enough about breaking 40 to do what I need to do.'gruecd said:Dude. 10K is probably the worst distance there is. Hurts sooooooo bad. I've broken 40 minutes once, and I'm not sure if I care if I ever do it again. I've got one on 6/9, so we'll see.'Hang 10 said:10k tomorrow. My goal originally was 39:59 but I'm just not feeling it. I guess I'll be ok with anything under 42:00. I'm just not sure I'm mentally ready to push myself hard enough to get under 40 minutes yet. Yes, I'm a poosay. :(
Is that your secret weapon?'Ned said:This may help both of you'gruecd said:Dude. 10K is probably the worst distance there is. Hurts sooooooo bad. I've broken 40 minutes once, and I'm not sure if I care if I ever do it again. I've got one on 6/9, so we'll see.'Hang 10 said:10k tomorrow. My goal originally was 39:59 but I'm just not feeling it. I guess I'll be ok with anything under 42:00. I'm just not sure I'm mentally ready to push myself hard enough to get under 40 minutes yet.
Yes, I'm a poosay. :(

Gotcha. Yeah, highs will be in the 90's for us here in FL the next few days. When I ran early last Sunday morning, it had to be about 70 degrees already at like 6:30.That's a loaded question... Depends on:individual's fitness level? an overweight novice won't handle the heat the same as a seasoned marathoner.what they're acclimated to? someone used to running in the 50's won't handle the 80s as well as someone who's trained in the 80's for months.how long is the run? obviously a 3mi run won't be as dangerous as a 20mi run.is the sun out? everyone loves to talk about the temps, but the sun exposure can make or break you.is it humid? humidity is the #1 killer, IMO. Look at that WBGT calc. Humidity accounts for 70% of the calc.is there a breeze? even a light breeze will make a big difference since your skin cools by evaporating the sweat on your skin.So how hot is too hot to run?![]()
Is that your secret weapon?'Ned said:This may help both of you'gruecd said:Dude. 10K is probably the worst distance there is. Hurts sooooooo bad. I've broken 40 minutes once, and I'm not sure if I care if I ever do it again. I've got one on 6/9, so we'll see.'Hang 10 said:10k tomorrow. My goal originally was 39:59 but I'm just not feeling it. I guess I'll be ok with anything under 42:00. I'm just not sure I'm mentally ready to push myself hard enough to get under 40 minutes yet.
Yes, I'm a poosay. :(![]()
I hear ya man. It hurts like a mother.... Squeezing every last drop out of these faster races takes a ton, no doubt.Nice.Welcome backAfter not posting in this thread for probably 2 years (old job blocked FBG, barely had time to cruise football and baseball forums) I want to use you guys as a measure for my training again. This weekMonday 6 miles - 45 minsWednesday 5 miles - 35 minsThursday 4 miles - 27 minsToday is a hill-sprint workout, whenever I reach a steep incline sprint to the top, walk briefly to catch my breath, then jog to next hill. 2 miles straight uphill total then turn around and race back down. I time myself on the way back down, got it done in just over 13 mins last time, shooting for just under this time.Ultimate goal - 10k in under 40 mins, did a 5 miler in 31:30 Thanksgiving so I think it's doable.
She obviously needs her own HR monitor. Ned can advise on the best way to do this. Mac: Welcome back!!!!!!!I took my dog running this morning, at mile 3 her tongue started turning a purplish blue so I black flagged her.
Her pacing is really bad, first mile she dragged me a bit, second she stayed with me pretty good, mile 3 it probably looked pretty inhumane the way I kept jerking her along.
Everyone have a great weekend, especially the racers!
I took my dog running this morning, at mile 3 her tongue started turning a purplish blue so I black flagged her. Her pacing is really bad, first mile she dragged me a bit, second she stayed with me pretty good, mile 3 it probably looked pretty inhumane the way I kept jerking her along. Everyone have a great weekend, especially the racers!
Oh I crushed her. She might could beat me in a 800 yd sprint, but much past that she's gassed.I took my dog running this morning, at mile 3 her tongue started turning a purplish blue so I black flagged her. Her pacing is really bad, first mile she dragged me a bit, second she stayed with me pretty good, mile 3 it probably looked pretty inhumane the way I kept jerking her along. Everyone have a great weekend, especially the racers!Congrats on the head-to-head victory! Whenever I see someone running with their dog, I always find it fun to speculate on who could outlast the other. I usually side with the dog.
PSL: That was actually the first thing I thought about, it had to have been 200+ easy. I'll get a reading on her next time.Oh I crushed her. She might could beat me in a 800 yd sprint, but much past that she's gassed.I took my dog running this morning, at mile 3 her tongue started turning a purplish blue so I black flagged her. Her pacing is really bad, first mile she dragged me a bit, second she stayed with me pretty good, mile 3 it probably looked pretty inhumane the way I kept jerking her along. Everyone have a great weekend, especially the racers!Congrats on the head-to-head victory! Whenever I see someone running with their dog, I always find it fun to speculate on who could outlast the other. I usually side with the dog.
PSL: That was actually the first thing I thought about, it had to have been 200+ easy. I'll get a reading on her next time.

signed up for a 10k on 7/4. you guys are scaring meoosay
good luck to everyone racing this weekend - Hang 10, tri-man, Steel Curtain, Wraith
Have fun guys and HYDRATE like crazy until the race. Its stupid hot out and only supposed to get hotter in some places.signed up for a 10k on 7/4. you guys are scaring meoosay
good luck to everyone racing this weekend - Hang 10, tri-man, Steel Curtain, WraithHave fun guys and HYDRATE like crazy until the race. Its stupid hot out and only supposed to get hotter in some places.
stay safe everyone, keep your hair wet often.I like the hill work ...and the goals! Welcome back.After not posting in this thread for probably 2 years (old job blocked FBG, barely had time to cruise football and baseball forums) I want to use you guys as a measure for my training again. This weekMonday 6 miles - 45 minsWednesday 5 miles - 35 minsThursday 4 miles - 27 minsToday is a hill-sprint workout, whenever I reach a steep incline sprint to the top, walk briefly to catch my breath, then jog to next hill. 2 miles straight uphill total then turn around and race back down. I time myself on the way back down, got it done in just over 13 mins last time, shooting for just under this time.Ultimate goal - 10k in under 40 mins, did a 5 miler in 31:30 Thanksgiving so I think it's doable.
pretty sure that was a kayak gang sign.videos of stroking techiques? i learned on my own as a teeneager. thought that was fairly common??sounds pretty cool, working some new muscles, good luck!Yesterday was the maiden voyage for my kayak addition to my multi-sport vice. I can see that this will be stealing time from swim/bike/run all summer. I did just shy of 5 miles and was surprised at the MM speed and how dang sore I am today. My average MM for the first 3 miles was under 15 MM, with lots of pauses. With practice, I'd think I can get race speeds down to around 12 MM depending on the conditions. I watched a bunch of YouTube videos to learn proper stroke technique (like I did when I learned to swim) and it paid off. One of the videos recommended "training" by using no arms and cranking with the chest and torso. Using this I was flying, but could not sustain the stroke for more than about 200 yards. Adding the arms added more speed, but also caused the boat to drift a lot. My route followed the shoreline of Lake St Clair south from the St. Clair Shores border. Just south of the Edsel Ford Estate there is a shallow, sandy area where tons of boats drop anchor and it becomes a big floating party (typically comprised of 50 year fat guys with about 10 twenty something women). There were only about 25 boats yesterday, but still plenty to look at. I am plannning on going back out on Monday (when temps are going to be back in the 90s) when there should be 100s of boats out there.Question about kayak etiquette if anyone knows. I passed a bunch of other kayakers. It appeared that a couple were giving me some kind of wave by holding their paddle at their chest and one raised it above his head. Is this some kind of common practice or was I just seeing something that wasn't there?
pretty sure that was a kayak gang sign.videos of stroking techiques? i learned on my own as a teeneager. thought that was fairly common??Yesterday was the maiden voyage for my kayak addition to my multi-sport vice. I can see that this will be stealing time from swim/bike/run all summer. I did just shy of 5 miles and was surprised at the MM speed and how dang sore I am today. My average MM for the first 3 miles was under 15 MM, with lots of pauses. With practice, I'd think I can get race speeds down to around 12 MM depending on the conditions. I watched a bunch of YouTube videos to learn proper stroke technique (like I did when I learned to swim) and it paid off. One of the videos recommended "training" by using no arms and cranking with the chest and torso. Using this I was flying, but could not sustain the stroke for more than about 200 yards. Adding the arms added more speed, but also caused the boat to drift a lot. My route followed the shoreline of Lake St Clair south from the St. Clair Shores border. Just south of the Edsel Ford Estate there is a shallow, sandy area where tons of boats drop anchor and it becomes a big floating party (typically comprised of 50 year fat guys with about 10 twenty something women). There were only about 25 boats yesterday, but still plenty to look at. I am plannning on going back out on Monday (when temps are going to be back in the 90s) when there should be 100s of boats out there.
Question about kayak etiquette if anyone knows. I passed a bunch of other kayakers. It appeared that a couple were giving me some kind of wave by holding their paddle at their chest and one raised it above his head. Is this some kind of common practice or was I just seeing something that wasn't there?
sounds pretty cool, working some new muscles, good luck!
You don't know me very well, do you? All part of my over thinker DNA. I know it seems
but it actually makes things more enjoyable for all training aspects. I'm sure I could have figured things out on my own, but I'd like to go for AG hardware in the two multi-sport kayak events I'm registered for. Next up is learning the lean turn to cut the buoys during races. I didn't feel like trying it yesterday and dumping the boat in the process. I am also heading to ****'s in a few to pick up some gloves. I blistered my hands pretty good.:whoosh: Not sure his question was a serious one if you read how he learned his "stroking" techniques.pretty sure that was a kayak gang sign.videos of stroking techiques? i learned on my own as a teeneager. thought that was fairly common??Yesterday was the maiden voyage for my kayak addition to my multi-sport vice. I can see that this will be stealing time from swim/bike/run all summer. I did just shy of 5 miles and was surprised at the MM speed and how dang sore I am today. My average MM for the first 3 miles was under 15 MM, with lots of pauses. With practice, I'd think I can get race speeds down to around 12 MM depending on the conditions. I watched a bunch of YouTube videos to learn proper stroke technique (like I did when I learned to swim) and it paid off. One of the videos recommended "training" by using no arms and cranking with the chest and torso. Using this I was flying, but could not sustain the stroke for more than about 200 yards. Adding the arms added more speed, but also caused the boat to drift a lot. My route followed the shoreline of Lake St Clair south from the St. Clair Shores border. Just south of the Edsel Ford Estate there is a shallow, sandy area where tons of boats drop anchor and it becomes a big floating party (typically comprised of 50 year fat guys with about 10 twenty something women). There were only about 25 boats yesterday, but still plenty to look at. I am plannning on going back out on Monday (when temps are going to be back in the 90s) when there should be 100s of boats out there.
Question about kayak etiquette if anyone knows. I passed a bunch of other kayakers. It appeared that a couple were giving me some kind of wave by holding their paddle at their chest and one raised it above his head. Is this some kind of common practice or was I just seeing something that wasn't there?
sounds pretty cool, working some new muscles, good luck!You don't know me very well, do you? All part of my over thinker DNA. I know it seems
but it actually makes things more enjoyable for all training aspects. I'm sure I could have figured things out on my own, but I'd like to go for AG hardware in the two multi-sport kayak events I'm registered for. Next up is learning the lean turn to cut the buoys during races. I didn't feel like trying it yesterday and dumping the boat in the process. I am also heading to ****'s in a few to pick up some gloves. I blistered my hands pretty good.
mine died a few months ago as well. i just attached it to the charger and a couple days later it fired up on its own and no problems since. weird. try it.Ugh! I think my Garmin 305 that I've had since late 2008 just bit the dust. It won't turn on or charge at all. I was sensing it was on its last legs but this is bad timing. I don't keep up on the new ones. What should I buy? The 610? I use it for running only.As for me, ran around 8 miles at a pace that was probably too fast. Felt fine. I'll probably just stick to recovery runs from here on out.
OK, I have it doing that now, actually. (Of course, sometimes it's also nice to have an excuse to go out and buy the newest and greatest!)mine died a few months ago as well. i just attached it to the charger and a couple days later it fired up on its own and no problems since. weird. try it.Ugh! I think my Garmin 305 that I've had since late 2008 just bit the dust. It won't turn on or charge at all. I was sensing it was on its last legs but this is bad timing. I don't keep up on the new ones. What should I buy? The 610? I use it for running only.As for me, ran around 8 miles at a pace that was probably too fast. Felt fine. I'll probably just stick to recovery runs from here on out.
I've had the Motorola MOTOACTV for a few weeks now and love this thing. Its a huge jump in technology from the 305 (which I used for the past 2 years). It will pair with your garmin HR strap, so no need to go buy a new one.OK, I have it doing that now, actually. (Of course, sometimes it's also nice to have an excuse to go out and buy the newest and greatest!)mine died a few months ago as well. i just attached it to the charger and a couple days later it fired up on its own and no problems since. weird. try it.Ugh! I think my Garmin 305 that I've had since late 2008 just bit the dust. It won't turn on or charge at all. I was sensing it was on its last legs but this is bad timing. I don't keep up on the new ones. What should I buy? The 610? I use it for running only.As for me, ran around 8 miles at a pace that was probably too fast. Felt fine. I'll probably just stick to recovery runs from here on out.
:whoosh: Not sure his question was a serious one if you read how he learned his "stroking" techniques.pretty sure that was a kayak gang sign.videos of stroking techiques? i learned on my own as a teeneager. thought that was fairly common??Yesterday was the maiden voyage for my kayak addition to my multi-sport vice. I can see that this will be stealing time from swim/bike/run all summer. I did just shy of 5 miles and was surprised at the MM speed and how dang sore I am today. My average MM for the first 3 miles was under 15 MM, with lots of pauses. With practice, I'd think I can get race speeds down to around 12 MM depending on the conditions. I watched a bunch of YouTube videos to learn proper stroke technique (like I did when I learned to swim) and it paid off. One of the videos recommended "training" by using no arms and cranking with the chest and torso. Using this I was flying, but could not sustain the stroke for more than about 200 yards. Adding the arms added more speed, but also caused the boat to drift a lot. My route followed the shoreline of Lake St Clair south from the St. Clair Shores border. Just south of the Edsel Ford Estate there is a shallow, sandy area where tons of boats drop anchor and it becomes a big floating party (typically comprised of 50 year fat guys with about 10 twenty something women). There were only about 25 boats yesterday, but still plenty to look at. I am plannning on going back out on Monday (when temps are going to be back in the 90s) when there should be 100s of boats out there.
Question about kayak etiquette if anyone knows. I passed a bunch of other kayakers. It appeared that a couple were giving me some kind of wave by holding their paddle at their chest and one raised it above his head. Is this some kind of common practice or was I just seeing something that wasn't there?
sounds pretty cool, working some new muscles, good luck!You don't know me very well, do you? All part of my over thinker DNA. I know it seems
but it actually makes things more enjoyable for all training aspects. I'm sure I could have figured things out on my own, but I'd like to go for AG hardware in the two multi-sport kayak events I'm registered for. Next up is learning the lean turn to cut the buoys during races. I didn't feel like trying it yesterday and dumping the boat in the process. I am also heading to ****'s in a few to pick up some gloves. I blistered my hands pretty good.

Thanks. I hadn't considered anything but a Garmin but I'll look into that one. Hope the head heals!I've had the Motorola MOTOACTV for a few weeks now and love this thing. Its a huge jump in technology from the 305 (which I used for the past 2 years). It will pair with your garmin HR strap, so no need to go buy a new one.OK, I have it doing that now, actually. (Of course, sometimes it's also nice to have an excuse to go out and buy the newest and greatest!)mine died a few months ago as well. i just attached it to the charger and a couple days later it fired up on its own and no problems since. weird. try it.Ugh! I think my Garmin 305 that I've had since late 2008 just bit the dust. It won't turn on or charge at all. I was sensing it was on its last legs but this is bad timing. I don't keep up on the new ones. What should I buy? The 610? I use it for running only.As for me, ran around 8 miles at a pace that was probably too fast. Felt fine. I'll probably just stick to recovery runs from here on out.
Now, all of a sudden it's charging again. Probably a false alarm. I'm blaming the cleaning people that were here yesterday.OK, I have it doing that now, actually. (Of course, sometimes it's also nice to have an excuse to go out and buy the newest and greatest!)mine died a few months ago as well. i just attached it to the charger and a couple days later it fired up on its own and no problems since. weird. try it.Ugh! I think my Garmin 305 that I've had since late 2008 just bit the dust. It won't turn on or charge at all. I was sensing it was on its last legs but this is bad timing. I don't keep up on the new ones. What should I buy? The 610? I use it for running only.As for me, ran around 8 miles at a pace that was probably too fast. Felt fine. I'll probably just stick to recovery runs from here on out.