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Yea, a police officer at the school, Trayvons own voice, pictures, and video are = to an anonymous call..It's exactly the same.. "No different"...No different than the pro-zimms believing all the thug crap about treyvon.
ya...all spun to look worse than it was by people with an agenda.There is no proof of him referring any mma style fights. The ''stolen jewelry'' was never proven to be stolen.No proof of ever swinging at a bus driver, just goofy tweets .So ya, the same thing buddy.Yea, a police officer at the school, Trayvons own voice, pictures, and video are = to an anonymous call..It's exactly the same.. "No different"...No different than the pro-zimms believing all the thug crap about treyvon.
The point he was trying to make, was that there was actual proof backing up some of the claims. Not all, but a lot. Pictures, recordings, tweets are all bits and pieces of info that aren't biased. How they are spun can be, but the evidence itself isn't. Hearsay from an anonymous call 2 days after the incident is the least credible piece of anything. Regardless if it was about Zimmerman or Trayvon, they have no solid basis of even knowing either person. It would be like if I made an anonymous phonecall to the police about you saying that you had racist ideologies and people wishing something more came from it. It's ridiculous.ya...all spun to look worse than it was by people with an agenda.There is no proof of him referring any mma style fights. The ''stolen jewelry'' was never proven to be stolen.No proof of ever swinging at a bus driver, just goofy tweets .So ya, the same thing buddy.Yea, a police officer at the school, Trayvons own voice, pictures, and video are = to an anonymous call..It's exactly the same.. "No different"...No different than the pro-zimms believing all the thug crap about treyvon.
im not disagreeing that an anonymous call is ridiculous. I am saying that the slandrous crap that is spewed from all sides is just as ridiculous.The point he was trying to make, was that there was actual proof backing up some of the claims. Not all, but a lot. Pictures, recordings, tweets are all bits and pieces of info that aren't biased. How they are spun can be, but the evidence itself isn't. Hearsay from an anonymous call 2 days after the incident is the least credible piece of anything. Regardless if it was about Zimmerman or Trayvon, they have no solid basis of even knowing either person. It would be like if I made an anonymous phonecall to the police about you saying that you had racist ideologies and people wishing something more came from it. It's ridiculous.ya...all spun to look worse than it was by people with an agenda.There is no proof of him referring any mma style fights. The ''stolen jewelry'' was never proven to be stolen.No proof of ever swinging at a bus driver, just goofy tweets .So ya, the same thing buddy.Yea, a police officer at the school, Trayvons own voice, pictures, and video are = to an anonymous call..It's exactly the same.. "No different"...No different than the pro-zimms believing all the thug crap about treyvon.
I think we all can agree with thatim not disagreeing that an anonymous call is ridiculous. I am saying that the slandrous crap that is spewed from all sides is just as ridiculous.The point he was trying to make, was that there was actual proof backing up some of the claims. Not all, but a lot. Pictures, recordings, tweets are all bits and pieces of info that aren't biased. How they are spun can be, but the evidence itself isn't. Hearsay from an anonymous call 2 days after the incident is the least credible piece of anything. Regardless if it was about Zimmerman or Trayvon, they have no solid basis of even knowing either person. It would be like if I made an anonymous phonecall to the police about you saying that you had racist ideologies and people wishing something more came from it. It's ridiculous.ya...all spun to look worse than it was by people with an agenda.There is no proof of him referring any mma style fights. The ''stolen jewelry'' was never proven to be stolen.No proof of ever swinging at a bus driver, just goofy tweets .So ya, the same thing buddy.Yea, a police officer at the school, Trayvons own voice, pictures, and video are = to an anonymous call..It's exactly the same.. "No different"...No different than the pro-zimms believing all the thug crap about treyvon.
1) I saw 2 videos where he was refereeing fights2) If the jewelry was his, and not stolen, why didn't he ask for it back?ya...all spun to look worse than it was by people with an agenda.There is no proof of him referring any mma style fights. The ''stolen jewelry'' was never proven to be stolen.No proof of ever swinging at a bus driver, just goofy tweets .So ya, the same thing buddy.Yea, a police officer at the school, Trayvons own voice, pictures, and video are = to an anonymous call..It's exactly the same.. "No different"...No different than the pro-zimms believing all the thug crap about treyvon.
I'm Toast
Link?1) I saw 2 videos where he was refereeing fights2) If the jewelry was his, and not stolen, why didn't he ask for it back?3) No proof that he swung at a bus driver, but more convincing evidence then that you're using to suggest Zimmerman is racist..ya...all spun to look worse than it was by people with an agenda.There is no proof of him referring any mma style fights. The ''stolen jewelry'' was never proven to be stolen.No proof of ever swinging at a bus driver, just goofy tweets .So ya, the same thing buddy.Yea, a police officer at the school, Trayvons own voice, pictures, and video are = to an anonymous call..It's exactly the same.. "No different"...No different than the pro-zimms believing all the thug crap about treyvon.
4) You forgot to mention:
- The 'Trayvon made' rap music that has since been removed from youtube
- The photos of him posing as a thug. I've seen at least 3 of these..
- The graffiti at school
- the illegal drug use, and drugs at school
- the multiple school suspensions. 3 or 4 within one school year..
I never said Trayvon was a thug, but suggesting all of this ^ is in some way comparable to 1 anonymous callers testament is crazy. You don't know who made that call, and/or what their motivation was. Could have been a friend of the Martin family for all we know.
They were posted by him on his youtube account, but have since been removed. Some of them are still out there, you only need to google them.Here's one, Trayvon in black and silver stripesLink?1) I saw 2 videos where he was refereeing fights2) If the jewelry was his, and not stolen, why didn't he ask for it back?3) No proof that he swung at a bus driver, but more convincing evidence then that you're using to suggest Zimmerman is racist..ya...all spun to look worse than it was by people with an agenda.There is no proof of him referring any mma style fights. The ''stolen jewelry'' was never proven to be stolen.No proof of ever swinging at a bus driver, just goofy tweets .So ya, the same thing buddy.Yea, a police officer at the school, Trayvons own voice, pictures, and video are = to an anonymous call..It's exactly the same.. "No different"...No different than the pro-zimms believing all the thug crap about treyvon.
4) You forgot to mention:
- The 'Trayvon made' rap music that has since been removed from youtube
- The photos of him posing as a thug. I've seen at least 3 of these..
- The graffiti at school
- the illegal drug use, and drugs at school
- the multiple school suspensions. 3 or 4 within one school year..
I never said Trayvon was a thug, but suggesting all of this ^ is in some way comparable to 1 anonymous callers testament is crazy. You don't know who made that call, and/or what their motivation was. Could have been a friend of the Martin family for all we know.
So that's the only one you contend?Even if you removed the video's, there is still plenty of evidence pointing to a not so innocent young man..Link?1) I saw 2 videos where he was refereeing fights2) If the jewelry was his, and not stolen, why didn't he ask for it back?3) No proof that he swung at a bus driver, but more convincing evidence then that you're using to suggest Zimmerman is racist..ya...all spun to look worse than it was by people with an agenda.There is no proof of him referring any mma style fights. The ''stolen jewelry'' was never proven to be stolen.No proof of ever swinging at a bus driver, just goofy tweets .So ya, the same thing buddy.Yea, a police officer at the school, Trayvons own voice, pictures, and video are = to an anonymous call..It's exactly the same.. "No different"...No different than the pro-zimms believing all the thug crap about treyvon.
4) You forgot to mention:
- The 'Trayvon made' rap music that has since been removed from youtube
- The photos of him posing as a thug. I've seen at least 3 of these..
- The graffiti at school
- the illegal drug use, and drugs at school
- the multiple school suspensions. 3 or 4 within one school year..
I never said Trayvon was a thug, but suggesting all of this ^ is in some way comparable to 1 anonymous callers testament is crazy. You don't know who made that call, and/or what their motivation was. Could have been a friend of the Martin family for all we know.
You said it, post up the links.So that's the only one you contend?Even if you removed the video's, there is still plenty of evidence pointing to a not so innocent young man..Link?1) I saw 2 videos where he was refereeing fights2) If the jewelry was his, and not stolen, why didn't he ask for it back?3) No proof that he swung at a bus driver, but more convincing evidence then that you're using to suggest Zimmerman is racist..ya...all spun to look worse than it was by people with an agenda.There is no proof of him referring any mma style fights. The ''stolen jewelry'' was never proven to be stolen.No proof of ever swinging at a bus driver, just goofy tweets .So ya, the same thing buddy.Yea, a police officer at the school, Trayvons own voice, pictures, and video are = to an anonymous call..It's exactly the same.. "No different"...No different than the pro-zimms believing all the thug crap about treyvon.
4) You forgot to mention:
- The 'Trayvon made' rap music that has since been removed from youtube
- The photos of him posing as a thug. I've seen at least 3 of these..
- The graffiti at school
- the illegal drug use, and drugs at school
- the multiple school suspensions. 3 or 4 within one school year..
I never said Trayvon was a thug, but suggesting all of this ^ is in some way comparable to 1 anonymous callers testament is crazy. You don't know who made that call, and/or what their motivation was. Could have been a friend of the Martin family for all we know.
here, let me help you'BigSteelThrill said:You said it, post up the links.'Carolina Hustler said:So that's the only one you contend?Even if you removed the video's, there is still plenty of evidence pointing to a not so innocent young man..'BustedKnuckles said:Link?'Carolina Hustler said:1) I saw 2 videos where he was refereeing fights2) If the jewelry was his, and not stolen, why didn't he ask for it back?3) No proof that he swung at a bus driver, but more convincing evidence then that you're using to suggest Zimmerman is racist..'BustedKnuckles said:ya...all spun to look worse than it was by people with an agenda.There is no proof of him referring any mma style fights. The ''stolen jewelry'' was never proven to be stolen.No proof of ever swinging at a bus driver, just goofy tweets .So ya, the same thing buddy.'Carolina Hustler said:Yea, a police officer at the school, Trayvons own voice, pictures, and video are = to an anonymous call..It's exactly the same.. "No different"...'BustedKnuckles said:No different than the pro-zimms believing all the thug crap about treyvon.'jon_mx said:'timschochet said:
4) You forgot to mention:
- The 'Trayvon made' rap music that has since been removed from youtube
- The photos of him posing as a thug. I've seen at least 3 of these..
- The graffiti at school
- the illegal drug use, and drugs at school
- the multiple school suspensions. 3 or 4 within one school year..
I never said Trayvon was a thug, but suggesting all of this ^ is in some way comparable to 1 anonymous callers testament is crazy. You don't know who made that call, and/or what their motivation was. Could have been a friend of the Martin family for all we know.
'Carolina Hustler said:They were posted by him on his youtube account, but have since been removed. Some of them are still out there, you only need to google them.Here's one, Trayvon in black and silver stripes'BustedKnuckles said:Link?'Carolina Hustler said:1) I saw 2 videos where he was refereeing fights2) If the jewelry was his, and not stolen, why didn't he ask for it back?3) No proof that he swung at a bus driver, but more convincing evidence then that you're using to suggest Zimmerman is racist..'BustedKnuckles said:ya...all spun to look worse than it was by people with an agenda.There is no proof of him referring any mma style fights. The ''stolen jewelry'' was never proven to be stolen.No proof of ever swinging at a bus driver, just goofy tweets .So ya, the same thing buddy.'Carolina Hustler said:Yea, a police officer at the school, Trayvons own voice, pictures, and video are = to an anonymous call..It's exactly the same.. "No different"...'BustedKnuckles said:No different than the pro-zimms believing all the thug crap about treyvon.'jon_mx said:'timschochet said:
4) You forgot to mention:
- The 'Trayvon made' rap music that has since been removed from youtube
- The photos of him posing as a thug. I've seen at least 3 of these..
- The graffiti at school
- the illegal drug use, and drugs at school
- the multiple school suspensions. 3 or 4 within one school year..
I never said Trayvon was a thug, but suggesting all of this ^ is in some way comparable to 1 anonymous callers testament is crazy. You don't know who made that call, and/or what their motivation was. Could have been a friend of the Martin family for all we know.
And read the info under the video..
Seriously???? THATS your video proof??? hahahahahahaha.You cant tell one person from the next...nice try.But lets play this out, even if that wasnt just some black high school kid and it really was him, that video doesnt help zimmermans case in the least. If thats the level of fighting that treyvon is accustomed too then thats all the proof one needs to say zimmerman was in no way in fear for his life. Little high school yard fights, not exactly Kimbo Slice lmao. That is what you are falling back on? Seriously have you lost all sense of reality? Are you really using some choppy vid of a high school fight to make some sort of point? Godalmighty there simply are no words to describe that type of stupidity.'Carolina Hustler said:They were posted by him on his youtube account, but have since been removed. Some of them are still out there, you only need to google them.Here's one, Trayvon in black and silver stripes'BustedKnuckles said:Link?'Carolina Hustler said:1) I saw 2 videos where he was refereeing fights2) If the jewelry was his, and not stolen, why didn't he ask for it back?3) No proof that he swung at a bus driver, but more convincing evidence then that you're using to suggest Zimmerman is racist..'BustedKnuckles said:ya...all spun to look worse than it was by people with an agenda.There is no proof of him referring any mma style fights. The ''stolen jewelry'' was never proven to be stolen.No proof of ever swinging at a bus driver, just goofy tweets .So ya, the same thing buddy.'Carolina Hustler said:Yea, a police officer at the school, Trayvons own voice, pictures, and video are = to an anonymous call..It's exactly the same.. "No different"...'BustedKnuckles said:No different than the pro-zimms believing all the thug crap about treyvon.'jon_mx said:'timschochet said:
4) You forgot to mention:
- The 'Trayvon made' rap music that has since been removed from youtube
- The photos of him posing as a thug. I've seen at least 3 of these..
- The graffiti at school
- the illegal drug use, and drugs at school
- the multiple school suspensions. 3 or 4 within one school year..
I never said Trayvon was a thug, but suggesting all of this ^ is in some way comparable to 1 anonymous callers testament is crazy. You don't know who made that call, and/or what their motivation was. Could have been a friend of the Martin family for all we know.
And read the info under the video..
But George had his nose broken!'Carolina Hustler said:They were posted by him on his youtube account, but have since been removed. Some of them are still out there, you only need to google them.Here's one, Trayvon in black and silver stripes'BustedKnuckles said:Link?'Carolina Hustler said:1) I saw 2 videos where he was refereeing fights2) If the jewelry was his, and not stolen, why didn't he ask for it back?3) No proof that he swung at a bus driver, but more convincing evidence then that you're using to suggest Zimmerman is racist..'BustedKnuckles said:ya...all spun to look worse than it was by people with an agenda.There is no proof of him referring any mma style fights. The ''stolen jewelry'' was never proven to be stolen.No proof of ever swinging at a bus driver, just goofy tweets .So ya, the same thing buddy.'Carolina Hustler said:Yea, a police officer at the school, Trayvons own voice, pictures, and video are = to an anonymous call..It's exactly the same.. "No different"...'BustedKnuckles said:No different than the pro-zimms believing all the thug crap about treyvon.'jon_mx said:'timschochet said:
4) You forgot to mention:
- The 'Trayvon made' rap music that has since been removed from youtube
- The photos of him posing as a thug. I've seen at least 3 of these..
- The graffiti at school
- the illegal drug use, and drugs at school
- the multiple school suspensions. 3 or 4 within one school year..
I never said Trayvon was a thug, but suggesting all of this ^ is in some way comparable to 1 anonymous callers testament is crazy. You don't know who made that call, and/or what their motivation was. Could have been a friend of the Martin family for all we know.
And read the info under the video..
It doesn't take Mike Tyson to kill someone by banging their head into the ground. I somehow managed to get through life without banging someones head into the ground. The innocent skittle's boy was likely in the process of committing a felony when he was shot.But George had his nose broken!
Some solid evidence here.It doesn't take Mike Tyson to kill someone by banging their head into the ground. I somehow managed to get through life without banging someones head into the ground. The innocent skittle's boy was likely in the process of committing a felony when he was shot.But George had his nose broken!
Oh yeah, physical evidence of injuries, eye-witnesses who saw a fight, testimony from participant....yep, not much different than an anonymous tipster.Some solid evidence here.It doesn't take Mike Tyson to kill someone by banging their head into the ground. I somehow managed to get through life without banging someones head into the ground. The innocent skittle's boy was likely in the process of committing a felony when he was shot.But George had his nose broken!
What do Mike Tyson, your managing to get through life without banging someone's head into the ground (which is considerably softer than concrete) and Skittles have to do with your lack of evidence that Trayvon Martin was committing a felony?Where's the logic?Oh yeah, physical evidence of injuries, eye-witnesses who saw a fight, testimony from participant....yep, not much different than an anonymous tipster.Some solid evidence here.It doesn't take Mike Tyson to kill someone by banging their head into the ground. I somehow managed to get through life without banging someones head into the ground. The innocent skittle's boy was likely in the process of committing a felony when he was shot.But George had his nose broken!
It was a response to the Kimbo Slice logic. There is plenty of evidence that Trayvon was engaged in assault and battery. Multiple eye-witnesses and injuries. Enough evidence to convict him in a court of law if he were alive.What do Mike Tyson, your managing to get through life without banging someone's head into the ground (which is considerably softer than concrete) and Skittles have to do with your lack of evidence that Trayvon Martin was committing a felony?Where's the logic?Oh yeah, physical evidence of injuries, eye-witnesses who saw a fight, testimony from participant....yep, not much different than an anonymous tipster.Some solid evidence here.It doesn't take Mike Tyson to kill someone by banging their head into the ground. I somehow managed to get through life without banging someones head into the ground. The innocent skittle's boy was likely in the process of committing a felony when he was shot.But George had his nose broken!
Link?It was a response to the Kimbo Slice logic. There is plenty of evidence that Trayvon was engaged in assault and battery. Multiple eye-witnesses and injuries. Enough evidence to convict him in a court of law if he were alive.What do Mike Tyson, your managing to get through life without banging someone's head into the ground (which is considerably softer than concrete) and Skittles have to do with your lack of evidence that Trayvon Martin was committing a felony?Where's the logic?Oh yeah, physical evidence of injuries, eye-witnesses who saw a fight, testimony from participant....yep, not much different than an anonymous tipster.Some solid evidence here.It doesn't take Mike Tyson to kill someone by banging their head into the ground. I somehow managed to get through life without banging someones head into the ground. The innocent skittle's boy was likely in the process of committing a felony when he was shot.But George had his nose broken!
But lets play this out, even if that wasnt just some black high school kid and it really was him, that video doesnt help zimmermans case in the least. If thats the level of fighting that treyvon is accustomed too then thats all the proof one needs to say zimmerman was in no way in fear for his life. Little high school yard fights, not exactly Kimbo Slice lmao.
again...the EMT`s worked on George Zimbecile for around 8 minutes or less, never even bandaged his cuts and he felt no need to go to the hospital that night....oh the horror of that attack must have been more than he could handle, that poor man. Good thing he had that handgun at the ready.It was a response to the Kimbo Slice logic. There is plenty of evidence that Trayvon was engaged in assault and battery. Multiple eye-witnesses and injuries. Enough evidence to convict him in a court of law if he were alive.What do Mike Tyson, your managing to get through life without banging someone's head into the ground (which is considerably softer than concrete) and Skittles have to do with your lack of evidence that Trayvon Martin was committing a felony?Where's the logic?Oh yeah, physical evidence of injuries, eye-witnesses who saw a fight, testimony from participant....yep, not much different than an anonymous tipster.Some solid evidence here.It doesn't take Mike Tyson to kill someone by banging their head into the ground. I somehow managed to get through life without banging someones head into the ground. The innocent skittle's boy was likely in the process of committing a felony when he was shot.But George had his nose broken!
its too bad he had that gun because honestly i think treyvon would have taught that idiot a lesson in minding his own business, a good old fashioned beatdown can have that effect sometimes.
According to Florida law Martin was not obligated to back down. Regardless, even in a statutorily sane state Martin might have at most faced misdemeanor charges for besting that idiot.It was a response to the Kimbo Slice logic. There is plenty of evidence that Trayvon was engaged in assault and battery. Multiple eye-witnesses and injuries. Enough evidence to convict him in a court of law if he were alive.What do Mike Tyson, your managing to get through life without banging someone's head into the ground (which is considerably softer than concrete) and Skittles have to do with your lack of evidence that Trayvon Martin was committing a felony?Where's the logic?Oh yeah, physical evidence of injuries, eye-witnesses who saw a fight, testimony from participant....yep, not much different than an anonymous tipster.Some solid evidence here.It doesn't take Mike Tyson to kill someone by banging their head into the ground. I somehow managed to get through life without banging someones head into the ground. The innocent skittle's boy was likely in the process of committing a felony when he was shot.But George had his nose broken!
again...the EMT`s worked on George Zimbecile for around 8 minutes or less, never even bandaged his cuts and he felt no need to go to the hospital that night....oh the horror of that attack must have been more than he could handle, that poor man. Good thing he had that handgun at the ready.It was a response to the Kimbo Slice logic. There is plenty of evidence that Trayvon was engaged in assault and battery. Multiple eye-witnesses and injuries. Enough evidence to convict him in a court of law if he were alive.What do Mike Tyson, your managing to get through life without banging someone's head into the ground (which is considerably softer than concrete) and Skittles have to do with your lack of evidence that Trayvon Martin was committing a felony?Where's the logic?Oh yeah, physical evidence of injuries, eye-witnesses who saw a fight, testimony from participant....yep, not much different than an anonymous tipster.Some solid evidence here.It doesn't take Mike Tyson to kill someone by banging their head into the ground. I somehow managed to get through life without banging someones head into the ground. The innocent skittle's boy was likely in the process of committing a felony when he was shot.But George had his nose broken!
Depends when Martin would have stopped. If he would have done permanent damage to Zimmerman, it would have been a felony. As big of an idiot as Zimmerman might have been, it does not excuse it.
well lets just deal with the facts as we know them. Zimmerman by his own testimony said treyvon had fled and that he was going after him...period. Anything after that is conjecture. You can say treyvon doubled back and followed zimm all you want but we have no proof. Yet we do have proof that zimm was the agressor in the sense that he was following someone who was moving away from zimmerman, not the other ay around.End of argument.
How do you know?According to Florida law Martin was not obligated to back down. Regardless, even in a statutorily sane state Martin might have at most faced misdemeanor charges for besting that idiot.It was a response to the Kimbo Slice logic. There is plenty of evidence that Trayvon was engaged in assault and battery. Multiple eye-witnesses and injuries. Enough evidence to convict him in a court of law if he were alive.What do Mike Tyson, your managing to get through life without banging someone's head into the ground (which is considerably softer than concrete) and Skittles have to do with your lack of evidence that Trayvon Martin was committing a felony?Where's the logic?Oh yeah, physical evidence of injuries, eye-witnesses who saw a fight, testimony from participant....yep, not much different than an anonymous tipster.Some solid evidence here.It doesn't take Mike Tyson to kill someone by banging their head into the ground. I somehow managed to get through life without banging someones head into the ground. The innocent skittle's boy was likely in the process of committing a felony when he was shot.But George had his nose broken!
But lets play this out, even if that wasnt just some black high school kid and it really was him, that video doesnt help zimmermans case in the least. If thats the level of fighting that treyvon is accustomed too then thats all the proof one needs to say zimmerman was in no way in fear for his life. Little high school yard fights, not exactly Kimbo Slice lmao.
Good godHow do you know?According to Florida law Martin was not obligated to back down. Regardless, even in a statutorily sane state Martin might have at most faced misdemeanor charges for besting that idiot.It was a response to the Kimbo Slice logic. There is plenty of evidence that Trayvon was engaged in assault and battery. Multiple eye-witnesses and injuries. Enough evidence to convict him in a court of law if he were alive.What do Mike Tyson, your managing to get through life without banging someone's head into the ground (which is considerably softer than concrete) and Skittles have to do with your lack of evidence that Trayvon Martin was committing a felony?Where's the logic?Oh yeah, physical evidence of injuries, eye-witnesses who saw a fight, testimony from participant....yep, not much different than an anonymous tipster.Some solid evidence here.It doesn't take Mike Tyson to kill someone by banging their head into the ground. I somehow managed to get through life without banging someones head into the ground. The innocent skittle's boy was likely in the process of committing a felony when he was shot.But George had his nose broken!
But lets play this out, even if that wasnt just some black high school kid and it really was him, that video doesnt help zimmermans case in the least. If thats the level of fighting that treyvon is accustomed too then thats all the proof one needs to say zimmerman was in no way in fear for his life. Little high school yard fights, not exactly Kimbo Slice lmao.
Id rather go back n forth with Jon_mx and C.H all day long than see this crap...at least they try to say something and dont talk in circles hahahaha
Woulda, coulda... do you have anything besides conjecture and the belief of a guy who is clearly not very capable? You say you wouldn't excuse some hypothetical, made up maiming but you're cool with a dude plugging a teen through the heart at close range, then claiming he feared for his life when the entire altercation lasted about as long as Hustler's farce video evidence? Think about that for a moment.
What crap? How does Neofight know that Martin was entitled to invoke SYG?Good godHow do you know?According to Florida law Martin was not obligated to back down. Regardless, even in a statutorily sane state Martin might have at most faced misdemeanor charges for besting that idiot.It was a response to the Kimbo Slice logic. There is plenty of evidence that Trayvon was engaged in assault and battery. Multiple eye-witnesses and injuries. Enough evidence to convict him in a court of law if he were alive.What do Mike Tyson, your managing to get through life without banging someone's head into the ground (which is considerably softer than concrete) and Skittles have to do with your lack of evidence that Trayvon Martin was committing a felony?Where's the logic?Oh yeah, physical evidence of injuries, eye-witnesses who saw a fight, testimony from participant....yep, not much different than an anonymous tipster.Some solid evidence here.It doesn't take Mike Tyson to kill someone by banging their head into the ground. I somehow managed to get through life without banging someones head into the ground. The innocent skittle's boy was likely in the process of committing a felony when he was shot.But George had his nose broken!
But lets play this out, even if that wasnt just some black high school kid and it really was him, that video doesnt help zimmermans case in the least. If thats the level of fighting that treyvon is accustomed too then thats all the proof one needs to say zimmerman was in no way in fear for his life. Little high school yard fights, not exactly Kimbo Slice lmao.
The Florida law fairie told me. Does the law change for Martin somehow? If so, why?How do you know?According to Florida law Martin was not obligated to back down. Regardless, even in a statutorily sane state Martin might have at most faced misdemeanor charges for besting that idiot.It was a response to the Kimbo Slice logic. There is plenty of evidence that Trayvon was engaged in assault and battery. Multiple eye-witnesses and injuries. Enough evidence to convict him in a court of law if he were alive.What do Mike Tyson, your managing to get through life without banging someone's head into the ground (which is considerably softer than concrete) and Skittles have to do with your lack of evidence that Trayvon Martin was committing a felony?Where's the logic?Oh yeah, physical evidence of injuries, eye-witnesses who saw a fight, testimony from participant....yep, not much different than an anonymous tipster.Some solid evidence here.It doesn't take Mike Tyson to kill someone by banging their head into the ground. I somehow managed to get through life without banging someones head into the ground. The innocent skittle's boy was likely in the process of committing a felony when he was shot.But George had his nose broken!
But lets play this out, even if that wasnt just some black high school kid and it really was him, that video doesnt help zimmermans case in the least. If thats the level of fighting that treyvon is accustomed too then thats all the proof one needs to say zimmerman was in no way in fear for his life. Little high school yard fights, not exactly Kimbo Slice lmao.
I'm asking you. What facts do we know that entitled Martin to rely upon SYG?The Florida law fairie told me. Does the law change for Martin somehow? If so, why?How do you know?According to Florida law Martin was not obligated to back down. Regardless, even in a statutorily sane state Martin might have at most faced misdemeanor charges for besting that idiot.It was a response to the Kimbo Slice logic. There is plenty of evidence that Trayvon was engaged in assault and battery. Multiple eye-witnesses and injuries. Enough evidence to convict him in a court of law if he were alive.What do Mike Tyson, your managing to get through life without banging someone's head into the ground (which is considerably softer than concrete) and Skittles have to do with your lack of evidence that Trayvon Martin was committing a felony?Where's the logic?Oh yeah, physical evidence of injuries, eye-witnesses who saw a fight, testimony from participant....yep, not much different than an anonymous tipster.Some solid evidence here.It doesn't take Mike Tyson to kill someone by banging their head into the ground. I somehow managed to get through life without banging someones head into the ground. The innocent skittle's boy was likely in the process of committing a felony when he was shot.But George had his nose broken!
But lets play this out, even if that wasnt just some black high school kid and it really was him, that video doesnt help zimmermans case in the least. If thats the level of fighting that treyvon is accustomed too then thats all the proof one needs to say zimmerman was in no way in fear for his life. Little high school yard fights, not exactly Kimbo Slice lmao.
You don't have to answer. I was just curious if you knew something the rest of us didn't or you were just guessing.
How could I not be guessing about what Martin would claim were he still alive? I'm guessing he'd have a story similar to Zimmerman's, sans the prejudice, pursuit and firearm.We do know these facts (or those little untruths that Zimmerman has tried to pass): Martin did not circle his car, Zimmerman did get out to follow him and Martin was indeed aware of it and worried. Most of the rest has been conjecture on either side.
Why did you stop with telling all the facts? Based on the call with the police dispatcher, the following was said (you already know this but it didn't fit with your point):At 2:07 minutes into his call to the police, Zimmerman says, "he's running.". At 2:37 minutes, Zimmerman tells the dispatcher, "he ran." The sound of an "open door" chime, a change in Zimmerman's voice and the sound of wind indicate that Zimmerman has left his vehicle, prompting the dispatcher to ask if Zimmerman is following Martin. When Zimmerman confirms that he is, the dispatcher says, "We don't need you to do that."[111] Zimmerman says "OK".Based on the 'facts' - Zimmerman stopped his pursuit of Martin when instructed. Anything after THAT is conjecture. You can say Zimmerman continued to follow Martin but we have no proof.
I'll just let Christo take care of this...Wait, you already answered his question yourself in the very next few sentences. Well done.
ummm...you just repeated what i said witz only you added him saying ok, that doesnt change the fact that zimm was the follower by his own words...period ...the ...end.
But he said, "...period ...the ...end."
Wait, what?You said the following: Zimmerman by his own testimony said treyvon had fled and that he was going after him...period. Anything after that is conjecture.
again...the EMT`s worked on George Zimbecile for around 8 minutes or less, never even bandaged his cuts and he felt no need to go to the hospital that night....oh the horror of that attack must have been more than he could handle, that poor man. Good thing he had that handgun at the ready.It was a response to the Kimbo Slice logic. There is plenty of evidence that Trayvon was engaged in assault and battery. Multiple eye-witnesses and injuries. Enough evidence to convict him in a court of law if he were alive.What do Mike Tyson, your managing to get through life without banging someone's head into the ground (which is considerably softer than concrete) and Skittles have to do with your lack of evidence that Trayvon Martin was committing a felony?Where's the logic?Oh yeah, physical evidence of injuries, eye-witnesses who saw a fight, testimony from participant....yep, not much different than an anonymous tipster.Some solid evidence here.It doesn't take Mike Tyson to kill someone by banging their head into the ground. I somehow managed to get through life without banging someones head into the ground. The innocent skittle's boy was likely in the process of committing a felony when he was shot.But George had his nose broken!
I love it when people on message boards talk about things like good old fashioned beatdowns. The anger over things looking more like Zimmerman's account being truthful is mystifying. We all should be about the truth on this, regardless of our political lean. If Zimmerman truly instigated the fight and killed Martin then we all should agree he should be found guilty. That just doesn't seem to be the way the evidence released so far is suggesting. If Zimmerman's story proves to be true, then why wouldn't everyone agree he should be found not guilty and released? Even some of the MSNBC hardliners have abandoned talking about this case in the light of what is coming out and it not agreeing with their agenda.
He doesnt. He is just stating that Martin was in a situation where stand your ground applied in order to justify his already formed opinion.How do you know?According to Florida law Martin was not obligated to back down. Regardless, even in a statutorily sane state Martin might have at most faced misdemeanor charges for besting that idiot.It was a response to the Kimbo Slice logic. There is plenty of evidence that Trayvon was engaged in assault and battery. Multiple eye-witnesses and injuries. Enough evidence to convict him in a court of law if he were alive.What do Mike Tyson, your managing to get through life without banging someone's head into the ground (which is considerably softer than concrete) and Skittles have to do with your lack of evidence that Trayvon Martin was committing a felony?Where's the logic?Oh yeah, physical evidence of injuries, eye-witnesses who saw a fight, testimony from participant....yep, not much different than an anonymous tipster.Some solid evidence here.It doesn't take Mike Tyson to kill someone by banging their head into the ground. I somehow managed to get through life without banging someones head into the ground. The innocent skittle's boy was likely in the process of committing a felony when he was shot.But George had his nose broken!
But lets play this out, even if that wasnt just some black high school kid and it really was him, that video doesnt help zimmermans case in the least. If thats the level of fighting that treyvon is accustomed too then thats all the proof one needs to say zimmerman was in no way in fear for his life. Little high school yard fights, not exactly Kimbo Slice lmao.
You do realize, being that Martin was shot dead that night, that we are dealing in hypotheticals here, yes?He doesnt. He is just stating that Martin was in a situation where stand your ground applied in order to justify his already formed opinion.How do you know?According to Florida law Martin was not obligated to back down. Regardless, even in a statutorily sane state Martin might have at most faced misdemeanor charges for besting that idiot.It was a response to the Kimbo Slice logic. There is plenty of evidence that Trayvon was engaged in assault and battery. Multiple eye-witnesses and injuries. Enough evidence to convict him in a court of law if he were alive.What do Mike Tyson, your managing to get through life without banging someone's head into the ground (which is considerably softer than concrete) and Skittles have to do with your lack of evidence that Trayvon Martin was committing a felony?Where's the logic?Oh yeah, physical evidence of injuries, eye-witnesses who saw a fight, testimony from participant....yep, not much different than an anonymous tipster.Some solid evidence here.It doesn't take Mike Tyson to kill someone by banging their head into the ground. I somehow managed to get through life without banging someones head into the ground. The innocent skittle's boy was likely in the process of committing a felony when he was shot.But George had his nose broken!
But lets play this out, even if that wasnt just some black high school kid and it really was him, that video doesnt help zimmermans case in the least. If thats the level of fighting that treyvon is accustomed too then thats all the proof one needs to say zimmerman was in no way in fear for his life. Little high school yard fights, not exactly Kimbo Slice lmao.
There was nothing hypothetical about your statement.
