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***2013 Chicago Bears Offseason Thread*** (1 Viewer)

Lovie Smith is out. Why? Since his team made a Super Bowl appearance, he made the playoffs once out of 6 seasons. Since he became a HC, his offenses have had the 2nd fewest offensive yards per game. Make all the excuses you want, but at some point the proof is in the pudding. Chicago couldn't bring in a solid OC because Lovie's job security was low the past 3 OC's: Ron Turner, Mike Martz, Mike Tice.

Who will Chicago go after?

-I'm a pretty big believer in Phil Emery. I read the book "War Room" which chronicles Bill Bellichek(SP?) and his assistants that left. It covers Emery's demotion in Atlanta and his classiness throughout the whole thing, very impressed.

-Offensive mind or defensive mind? I would guess an offensive guy because that's been the issue. I like Mike McCoy out in Denver, if you can get production with Tebow at QB...that's saying something.

-Big name candidate? Gruden/Cowher, it could happen. Chicago is a very lucrative job right now, many pieces in place.

-In House hire? Very low percentage chance. Only candidate I would consider is Dave Toub. He runs a very good special teams unit that excels beyond Devin Hester.

Unrestricted Free Agents:

-Jason Campbell. In theory you were a great signing, but you couldn't produce. His price tag of 3.5 million last year was too high. I'd rather draft a 4th round QB and develop him.

-Johnny Knox. I don't think he will play football again. Good 5th round pick at WR, wish him the best in life.

-Henry Melton. Great athlete and is essentially the Tommie Harris pre-injuries. Very quick and disruptive. He needs to be resigned, but will be costly.

-Jonathan Scott. Bring him back at a swing tackle price.

-Lance Louis. Bring him back if his knee is recovering well.

-Chilo Rachel. See ya

-Chris Spencer. See ya

-Israel Idonijie. Great team player. Switched from DE to DT to DE so many times in his career for Chicago. Solid pro, plays ST's. Bring him back(may not be a starter, but still effective).

-Amobi Okeye/Geno Hayes. Only bring them back if the price is right.

-Brian Urlacher. Fate was sealed with Lovie's firing and running your mouth about the fans. Always said Briggs was the better LB in Chicago.

-Nick Roach. Depends on his price.

-Kelvin Hayden. Depends on his price. Didn't play as well as expected after a good training camp.

-DJ Moore. You didn't evolve into the player expected. Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

Releases: Keep in mind that lovie is gone and cleaning house may be in store. Most new head coaches turn over 40% of the roster and consider that Phil Emery hasn't been in Chicago for a full year either and was using Angelo's players.

-Julius Peppers. Great player since he came to Chicago(better than expected). Didn't have a great year, injuries...perhaps old age(turns 33). However, his contract the next 3 years= 12.9, 13.9, 16.5 million. Too much money for the production and could be used in better ways.

-Devin Hester. Hasn't been a good returner lately and has a roster bonus of $10 million in the spring that deescalates...meaning it's performance based. Either way, he isn't worth $2 million at this point. Will never be the WR some imagined and isn't the returner right now. What's the point of wasting a roster spot?

-Kellen Davis. You're trash, see ya. Not worth the 2.4 million price in 2013.

-Roberto Garza. Not very good and not worth 1.75 in 2013(with all of this extra money, Emery will bring in at least 3 if not 4 new OL).

-Matt Spaeth at just over 1 million, no thanks.

Needs:

-Offensive Line. Everyone gets it at this time. Gabe Carimi disappointed, but will be given at least next year to prove himself as the RT. The other 4 spots are open IMO. Webb can be kept at his cheap price tag. Emery did a good job of bringing in Jonathan Scott off the street. I have faith he can improve this unit.

-DE. Wootton and McClellin are the future, but Chicago needs a 3rd DE.

-Backup QB

-Pass catching TE. Davis was a horrible flop after he showed some promise. What about Jared Cook for 2-3 Million per year?

-CB. This is a big need. Tim Jennings and Charles Tillman are UFA after the 2013 season. Behind them, it's scary. Chicago has no good nickel DB to matchup with Randall Cobb/Percy Harvin/other good slot WRs.

-LB. Replacing Urlacher will be a job. But LB is generally a cheap position because of the pass happy NFL, only 2 good players are needed.

Where is Chicago good?

-QB. Jay Cutler isn't a great QB. Once that's accepted, he's an average starting QB in the NFL and the best Chicago may have ever rostered. I wouldn't work on his extension and let him prove himself next season. Heck with all the shuffling, they may have a high pick in 2014.

-RB. Forte and Bush.

-WR. Marshall was awesome. Jeffery looks to be a great compliment. Bennett needs to stay healthy and prove himself.

-DL. Wootton/McClellin/Melton/Paea is a pretty good young group.

-Safety. Can't believe i'm saying this. Conte/Wright and perhaps Hardin will be a good addition in 2013 when healthy.

 
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Kinda surprised Reid wasn't mention as an option. Not his biggest fan but seems like a good fit for all. He'll make your offense better and as long as the defense stays up to the challenge, things will get better. Forte is just like Westbrook or McCoy who Reid has had success with.

I know Reid doesn't have the allure a McCoy since people want that new guy but Reid seems like a decent fit for Chicago.

 
I agree with the OP. Very well written. I think that Cowher and Gruden or very interesting.

Hester is puzzling to me. He just lost it completely and it seemed like once the KO rule was changed his return numbers for both punts and KO returns went downhill fast.

Urlacher should consider retirement but I wonder if he would make a good DC in the future.

Marinelli is one of the assistant coaches that should remain as well as Dave Toub.

Emery made the move but now he is on the clock. The offense has playmakers in Forte, Marshall and Jeffery but Cutler is proving to be a bust. There is TE. This is a mess. This has all the makings of a bad 2013 season to purge and rebuild. Emery is going to have to hit on all cylinders in the next two drafts but I don't know if Cowher or Gruden will come here to sit through rebuilding.

 
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Suprised to see Peppers name in the released players section. I understand his stats are not there, but is that because he isn't producing? Or is it because he is drawing the double/ double with a chip team from the offense?

What about Cutler? You think they should build around him or view him as a disposable piece? Interesting note last night was the Bears talk radio talking about how much say Cutler might have in any coach hiring.

Finally what are the Bears fans views on what you would like to see the new staff do: Blow it all up (compete 2-4 years from now will all Bears drafted/developed players) or plug the gaps and go (trying to compete in 2013 for a championship).

 
Bring in Josh McDaniels as Head Coach
Idiot posts like this are why I left the Shark Pool for months. People are trying to be cute or witty or piss off members instead of actual discussion.
Benson - sorry about the post - I was a little punchy after being up all night watching hockey......USA USA!Any way - how about another Bronco coach - Mike McCoy. I am hearing that the Bears would like to talk to him - along with a lot of others teams. But he would fit the mold for the Bears - an inexpensive hire( they are the McCaskeys after all) and this time one with a offense that can be molded to the Bears personnel. It would be good for the receivers - but I think his biggest problem in Chicago will be Cutler - a rookie coach with his attitude issues could be a recipe for problems. A new coach along with all the house cleaning/rebuild that is going on will be a big setback in my mind to Cutler's attitude - he'll need special handling. The new look needs a new O-Line - that will be a tough sell to free agents after the pictures of Cutler on the sideline berating the current line are remebered. But maybe that revamp specifically on the line will keep Cutler from losing it - since so much rotates around Cutler that's why I threw out the flippant answer to bring in McDaniel - you could get rid of Cutler and be on a clearer path to championships IMO. Find another sucker trade him for some picks (hello Dallas-Arizona?) - fall into a hole - and come out with some high draft picks. It happened for the Broncos - even before Manning arrived they made the playoffs in a couple of years after the McDaniels debacle with help from some of the picks they received for Cutler.Enjoy the offseason - hopefully the new look Bears will be worth watching - can't tell you how many times watching them on SNF/MNF made we wonder how the fans could put up with such garbage on offense.
 
'sporthenry said:
Kinda surprised Reid wasn't mention as an option. Not his biggest fan but seems like a good fit for all. He'll make your offense better and as long as the defense stays up to the challenge, things will get better. Forte is just like Westbrook or McCoy who Reid has had success with. I know Reid doesn't have the allure a McCoy since people want that new guy but Reid seems like a decent fit for Chicago.
Cutler + timing based passing(Reid's WCO) = Mike Martz when he was in Chicago. I don't see it.
 
'packseasontix said:
Suprised to see Peppers name in the released players section. I understand his stats are not there, but is that because he isn't producing? Or is it because he is drawing the double/ double with a chip team from the offense?What about Cutler? You think they should build around him or view him as a disposable piece? Interesting note last night was the Bears talk radio talking about how much say Cutler might have in any coach hiring.Finally what are the Bears fans views on what you would like to see the new staff do: Blow it all up (compete 2-4 years from now will all Bears drafted/developed players) or plug the gaps and go (trying to compete in 2013 for a championship).
Peppers: He did draw attention. But either way I don't see him earning 12 + million each of the next 3 seasons after turning 33, when he's not getting 14+ sacks a season.Cutler: I wouldn't give him a contract extension and let him play out 2013. If he plays lights out, which has happened once in his career, then franchise tag him. If he gets yet another concussion or has another average QB rating, give him a lower salary deal or let him walk.Not sure how big changes won't come with a new HC. But I don't necessarily see how moving a few of these high salary guys and using the money on OL/etc is blowing up the team. I think this team is a .500 team next season. The new coach + offseason moves from Emery will dictate that number of wins up or down.
 
'ffldrew said:
'benson_will_lead_the_way said:
'ffldrew said:
Bring in Josh McDaniels as Head Coach
Idiot posts like this are why I left the Shark Pool for months. People are trying to be cute or witty or piss off members instead of actual discussion.
Benson - sorry about the post - I was a little punchy after being up all night watching hockey......USA USA!Any way - how about another Bronco coach - Mike McCoy. I am hearing that the Bears would like to talk to him - along with a lot of others teams. But he would fit the mold for the Bears - an inexpensive hire( they are the McCaskeys after all) and this time one with a offense that can be molded to the Bears personnel. It would be good for the receivers - but I think his biggest problem in Chicago will be Cutler - a rookie coach with his attitude issues could be a recipe for problems. A new coach along with all the house cleaning/rebuild that is going on will be a big setback in my mind to Cutler's attitude - he'll need special handling. The new look needs a new O-Line - that will be a tough sell to free agents after the pictures of Cutler on the sideline berating the current line are remebered. But maybe that revamp specifically on the line will keep Cutler from losing it - since so much rotates around Cutler that's why I threw out the flippant answer to bring in McDaniel - you could get rid of Cutler and be on a clearer path to championships IMO. Find another sucker trade him for some picks (hello Dallas-Arizona?) - fall into a hole - and come out with some high draft picks. It happened for the Broncos - even before Manning arrived they made the playoffs in a couple of years after the McDaniels debacle with help from some of the picks they received for Cutler.Enjoy the offseason - hopefully the new look Bears will be worth watching - can't tell you how many times watching them on SNF/MNF made we wonder how the fans could put up with such garbage on offense.
I like the Mike McCoy name being mentioned. If he can have a successful offense with Tim Tebow at QB, how can't he have one with Cutler/Forte/Marshall? I really think Cutler's attitude problems + public perception is overblown. The media has a script and they will always depict him in a negative light, it will never change. Just like Suh will never be viewed as a nice guy, no matter what he does. It's what sells newspapers. I saw Aaron Rodgers pissed multiple times on sunday(even yelling at his HC) vs the Vikings, the media didn't make that into a big story. Back to McCoy and Cutler fitting, how many coaches have fit with Jay Cutler? On the flip-side, I would be mad at the OL and Devin Hester as well. I think Cutler is somewhere between. He's not as bad as the media projects, I think he's passionate. But I also don't think he's Tim Tebow.Denver wasted those draft picks from Cutler and that's not what flipped that organization around. What helped was getting rid of McDaniels.I posted above what I would do with Cutler. Let him play out 2013 and decide from there.
 
'benson_will_lead_the_way said:
Where is Chicago good?

-QB. Jay Cutler isn't a great QB. Once that's accepted, he's an average starting QB in the NFL and the best Chicago may have ever rostered. I wouldn't work on his extension and let him prove himself next season. Heck with all the shuffling, they may have a high pick in 2014.

-RB. Forte and Bush.

-WR. Marshall was awesome. Jeffery looks to be a great compliment. Bennett needs to stay healthy and prove himself.

-DL. Wootton/McClellin/Melton/Paea is a pretty good young group.

-Safety. Can't believe i'm saying this. Conte/Wright and perhaps Hardin will be a good addition in 2013 when healthy.
outstanding post up to the bolded. Cutler isn't a HOF QB, Sid Luckman was. Too bad Harbaugh's got his team.

Without having any insight, I like the idea of Brian Kelly to the Bears.

 
Mike McCoy at the top of the list.

Can't let Campbell walk in favor of a rookie - cutler simply misses too much time for the season to fall on Landry Jones four games a year. If Campbell isn't the guy then sign hasselbeck or Henne or cassell or Palmer or Fitzpatrick or whatever scrap heap veteran will be out there and available for 2/6million. I for one love cutler and think he's still capable of being an upper tier quarterback. And the weapons on offense are undeniable. If it were me, I'd put him in the shotgun a lot more (a la Brady).

Jared cook is going to get overpaid by someone. He wouldn't be the worst signing but primarily excels at running straight down the seam and catchin the ball over his shoulder. He's not real versatile.

 
Summarizing/paraphrasing from Brad Biggs' tweets on Emery's press conference:

[*]D and ST have been great, but O is inconsistent. And the failure to make the playoffs on a regular basis ultimately led to the move to fire Lovie.

[*]New HC search is gaining steam. College and pro coaches will be looked at, and offensive minds, defensive minds and special teams guys will all get looks. Ideal HC candidate will have high energy and be a people person.

[*]New coach will have to really sell a move to 3-4 defense in order for Emery to buy it. CHI doesn't have the personnel to pull it off most likely. Sticking with 4-3 is very likely.

[*]Emery had no comment on the Urlacher contract talks, but said he was rusty early in the season and got better.

[*]He conceded that the o-line needs to get better. (FINALLY someone acknowledged the obvious)

[*]Emery stated that Kellen Davis had a rough year and the team needed to improve at making plays in the middle of the field.

Biggs is a great follow for Bears fans on Twitter, imo. https://twitter.com/BradBiggs

My general thoughts on some of this stuff: 1) The o-line needs helps. Some FA money and draft picks need to be dedicated there. 2) The defense is aging, so the draft is probably the place to add youth. 3) A receiving TE is needed. A serviceable vet would be fine. I don't think the team needs to spend big money at this position. Two big/tall WRs in Marshall and Jeffery and a solid #3 in Bennett makes a high-priced TE less necessary. 4) If Urlacher is gone, and it seems fairly likely to me, then the team will have to find a new MLB. A stop gap vet would be ok here too. ---My hunch is that the team wants to fill any holes needed to challenge ASAP and not blow things up.

 
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1-George Halas

2-Mike Ditka

3-Lovie Smith

That is the list for the bears top 3 coaches in order.

I was happy with the lovie bears and am glad the move was made. it was time

Lovies philosophy is flawed. it will make you a good team 9-10 wins, but you can't win a Superbowl when you need your defense to score. and the offence is ignored.

I am extremely impressed with Phil Emery.

 
some tweets from Zach Zaidman, biggs, john mullin, haugh, Potash, jensen

Phil Emery: "It was a tough decision because I have great respect for Lovie. He's had a good run."

Emery said things that led to decision: Have to be in the playoffs on a consistent basis.

Phil Emery says the top reason for the firing was missing the postseason in five of the last six years.

Emery: "We haven't had the balance, we have not had consistency on the offensive side of the ball. We have gone thru a # of coordinators."

Emery makes it clear: Lovie didn't make the playoffs enough and his offense weren't good enough

"We're going to look at a wide variety of candidates in NFL and college. Offense, defense, special teams all included.

"I want somebody that's good on their feet. Working with the media is very important."

"I am excited to go through this process. We have candidates lined up for this week and the following week. It's an open process."

Emery would love to have his head coach in place by the time the college all-star games roll around in January.

Emery makes it clear that Jay Cutler will be around and the new coach will have to work with him.

Some assistants could return to #Bears staff

Emery says he doesn't have a preference as to whether Bears will be a 4-3 or 3-4 defense.

Emery says one of the responsibilities of the new staff will be to help develop Jay Cutler.

Emery says he wants adaptable coach who can find ways to win with a big chunk of #Bears roster

Emery has staffed 3-4 and 4-3 - new coach has to convince Emery that team has personnel to run classic 3-4 - don't have big bodies on DL

"I see Jay as a franchise quarterback. We’ve got to build around him. That’s been the goal from the beginning."

Phil Emery: "I have had players come by and talk to me. There’s a lot of emotion. They love coach Smith, and I understand that."

Phil Emery says he isn't taking Devin Hester's comments personally. "There will be a time when his emotions clear."

Emery says #Bears use Stats Inc. and look at Pro Football Focus as well.

Phil Emery on o-line: "We finished 26th, which tells me, ‘We got to get better.’ "

The fact that Emery is detailing his thought process from last off-season regarding O line suggests he isn't tone-deaf to the criticism.

Football sensibilities aroused by Emery's attention to detail, information provided, and embracing of stats analytics. Damn smart NFL guy.

Translation: You can't answer every need every off-season. Brandon Marshall changed the offense but can't fix everything immediately.

2nd WR bigger need than OL help in 2d round, per Emery - Kalil not there; Schwartz to Cleve by rd 2 - felt guards ok as is

It is clear Emery takes offense to the notion that he ignored the offensive line last offseason.

basically, Emery had to decide between playmakers (Marshall, Jeffery, etc) or the OL. He went with the playmakers.

Emery on length of his news conference: "I'm going to stay as long as you want me to stay."

Emery: "We've got to get better at the midfield area of making plays" and folks that screams TIGHT END

Emery says Bears didn't utilize Forte correctly.

Phil Emery says he wants to see Matt Forte used more in the passing game.

Phil Emery on a H-C who wants to call own offensive plays: "All they have to do is convince me that’s the best way to operate."

McCaskey: Money no factor in coach search

 
WoW- the media in this town talks and talks and talks about the Bears. Emery was willing to stay all day and the PC was only an hour? That is telling. The media in this town is great at sucking up to the organizations that are "selling" the tradition. Where was the tough questions?

I heard a ton of Emery "selling" the tradition. He sounded like a typical blowhard politician to me. Build around Cutler? Damn smart football guy? WHAT??? We have to get better? The OL has to get better? YA THINK? We need a coach that will work with the media? Why? Who cares.

You see- we need a coach that can sell the Bears BS. This press conference tells me that we will see business as usual. Where is the accountability with that stooge Phillips? He should be fired. This organization is just the Chicago Cubs of the NFL. The charter member of the NFL's GM talking about how it is important to win championships. Great press conference. The Bears are figuring it out. The best part is all this talk about Jay Cutler. The Bears need to build around Jay Cutler. Give him his star receiver, his QB coach, his youg receiver, his never ending OC and keep building around Jay Cutler. What a joke...

 
Here is a list of guys supposedly being interviewed so far:

Broncos OC Mike McCoy

Bucs OC Mike Sullivan

Packers OC Tom Clements

Cowboys ST Joe DeCamillis

Falcons ST Keith Armstrong

Not an interesting name on there, but who the hell knows how they will interview.

Eta: Sullivan's background is a bit interesting.

 
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Here is a list of guys supposedly being interviewed so far:Broncos OC Mike McCoyBucs OC Mike SullivanPackers OC Tom ClementsCowboys ST Joe DeCamillisFalcons ST Keith ArmstrongNot an interesting name on there, but who the hell knows how they will interview.
That's about my order of preference as well. Keith Armstrong wasn't even a great ST coach when he was in Chicago...probably the minority interview. Clements has been an OC for one year.
 
Cook is going to get more than 2 or 3 million a year, guys like Fasano, Zach Miller, Marcedes Lewis, make 3.5 million and above. I would try to get Delanie Walker if I am the Bears front office.

 
Cook is going to get more than 2 or 3 million a year, guys like Fasano, Zach Miller, Marcedes Lewis, make 3.5 million and above. I would try to get Delanie Walker if I am the Bears front office.
Kellen Davis= 2.4 millionMatt Spaeth=1.8 millionWhy not combine them for Jared Cook? Rodriguez can play the H back role and a situational run blocker can be drafted in the late rounds of a free agent pick up.
 
Bears need to jump on one of Cook, Keller or Fred Davis. An athletic tight end that can make plays is a must.

 
Cook is going to get more than 2 or 3 million a year, guys like Fasano, Zach Miller, Marcedes Lewis, make 3.5 million and above. I would try to get Delanie Walker if I am the Bears front office.
Kellen Davis= 2.4 millionMatt Spaeth=1.8 millionWhy not combine them for Jared Cook? Rodriguez can play the H back role and a situational run blocker can be drafted in the late rounds of a free agent pick up.
I think 4.2 or around there can get him, but I like Walker better. He is a better blocker and can catch the ball. He also doesn't complain about not getting the ball enough. Can you imagine how pissed Cook will be when Marshall is catching 100 + balls a year and he is getting 50 at best.
 
Imagining Cowher spitting on the sidelines makes me giddy. He's a Chicago type guy. He would be perfect! Doesn't sound like he's interested in coaching again, but it's a good thought. Of the available spots, I would think Chicago would be the most appealing to him. :popcorn:

Arians or McCoy would be good as well. Both offensive guys with a lot of qb experience. Seeing what Arians has done in Indy this season, I'd lean toward him a little more.

 
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I can't imagine a better fit than Jon Gruden. I really need Emery's phone number.
It really couldn't be more perfect. And Marinelli could stay put with their history.
Gruden and Cutler don't seem like a great fit.Many people only think about his Super Bowl, Gruden didn't have great teams after. 7-9,5-11,11-5,4-12,9-7,9-7
Stop. He's a very good football coach. Don't just ignore what he did in Oakland.And why isn't he and Cutler a great fit? I think any qb with some amount of talent would be a great fit with a guy like Gruden.
 
I can't imagine a better fit than Jon Gruden. I really need Emery's phone number.
It really couldn't be more perfect. And Marinelli could stay put with their history.
Gruden and Cutler don't seem like a great fit.Many people only think about his Super Bowl, Gruden didn't have great teams after. 7-9,5-11,11-5,4-12,9-7,9-7
Stop. He's a very good football coach. Don't just ignore what he did in Oakland.And why isn't he and Cutler a great fit? I think any qb with some amount of talent would be a great fit with a guy like Gruden.
Why is he a very good football coach?First off all, are you going to acknowledge that Gruden had a losing overall record in the 6 seasons after winning the super bowl?Second, you're not just going to bring in a big name guy=Gruden/Cowher/etc and they accept just being the coach. They will want total control, personnel decisions. Gruden had that in Tampa Bay and failed, despite having Warren Sapp/Derrick Brooks/Rhonde Barber/John Lynch on defense.Lastly, Gruden is an in your face type of coach. Will that work with Jay Cutler? Who knows, but the QB's that brought Gruden the most success are Rich Gannon/Brad Johnson...cool customers.
 
I can't imagine a better fit than Jon Gruden. I really need Emery's phone number.
It really couldn't be more perfect. And Marinelli could stay put with their history.
Gruden and Cutler don't seem like a great fit.Many people only think about his Super Bowl, Gruden didn't have great teams after. 7-9,5-11,11-5,4-12,9-7,9-7
Stop. He's a very good football coach. Don't just ignore what he did in Oakland.And why isn't he and Cutler a great fit? I think any qb with some amount of talent would be a great fit with a guy like Gruden.
Why is he a very good football coach?First off all, are you going to acknowledge that Gruden had a losing overall record in the 6 seasons after winning the super bowl?Second, you're not just going to bring in a big name guy=Gruden/Cowher/etc and they accept just being the coach. They will want total control, personnel decisions. Gruden had that in Tampa Bay and failed, despite having Warren Sapp/Derrick Brooks/Rhonde Barber/John Lynch on defense.Lastly, Gruden is an in your face type of coach. Will that work with Jay Cutler? Who knows, but the QB's that brought Gruden the most success are Rich Gannon/Brad Johnson...cool customers.
Took the Raiders from a last place team to a perennial playoff team. Had a home game in the AFC championship. Had the Pats beat in NE the year they won their first SB. Goes to Tampa and takes a team known for a good D with disappointing finishes and no offense and wins a SB. What more do you need? Perfection? Every great coach has had losing seasons.And we aren't getting Gruden. Emery is a new GM that wants his own guy, that he can have influence over. You can see from the interviews exactly how this headed and that's fine. The Gruden stuff is a pipe dream. Nobody seriously expects Gruden to be a candidate.And lastly....screw Cutler. He isn't good enough to carry any weight in this search.
 
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I can't imagine a better fit than Jon Gruden. I really need Emery's phone number.
It really couldn't be more perfect. And Marinelli could stay put with their history.
Gruden and Cutler don't seem like a great fit.Many people only think about his Super Bowl, Gruden didn't have great teams after. 7-9,5-11,11-5,4-12,9-7,9-7
Stop. He's a very good football coach. Don't just ignore what he did in Oakland.And why isn't he and Cutler a great fit? I think any qb with some amount of talent would be a great fit with a guy like Gruden.
Why is he a very good football coach?First off all, are you going to acknowledge that Gruden had a losing overall record in the 6 seasons after winning the super bowl?Second, you're not just going to bring in a big name guy=Gruden/Cowher/etc and they accept just being the coach. They will want total control, personnel decisions. Gruden had that in Tampa Bay and failed, despite having Warren Sapp/Derrick Brooks/Rhonde Barber/John Lynch on defense.Lastly, Gruden is an in your face type of coach. Will that work with Jay Cutler? Who knows, but the QB's that brought Gruden the most success are Rich Gannon/Brad Johnson...cool customers.
Took the Raiders from a last place team to a perennial playoff team. Had a home game in the AFC championship. Had the Pats beat in NE the year they won their first SB. Goes to Tampa and takes a team known for a good D with disappointing finishes and no offense and wins a SB. What more do you need? Perfection? Every great coach has had losing seasons.And we aren't getting Gruden. Emery is a new GM that wants his own guy, that he can have influence over. You can see from the interviews exactly how this headed and that's fine. The Gruden stuff is a pipe dream. Nobody seriously expects Gruden to be a candidate.And lastly....screw Cutler. He isn't good enough to carry any weight in this search.
You clearly don't want to have a discussion here, we'll have to agree to disagree.At least you concur that Gruden won't be a candidate and now onto actual Bears talk.
 
'benson_will_lead_the_way said:
'RBM said:
'benson_will_lead_the_way said:
'RBM said:
'SmoovySmoov said:
I can't imagine a better fit than Jon Gruden. I really need Emery's phone number.
It really couldn't be more perfect. And Marinelli could stay put with their history.
Gruden and Cutler don't seem like a great fit.Many people only think about his Super Bowl, Gruden didn't have great teams after. 7-9,5-11,11-5,4-12,9-7,9-7
Stop. He's a very good football coach. Don't just ignore what he did in Oakland.And why isn't he and Cutler a great fit? I think any qb with some amount of talent would be a great fit with a guy like Gruden.
Why is he a very good football coach?First off all, are you going to acknowledge that Gruden had a losing overall record in the 6 seasons after winning the super bowl?Second, you're not just going to bring in a big name guy=Gruden/Cowher/etc and they accept just being the coach. They will want total control, personnel decisions. Gruden had that in Tampa Bay and failed, despite having Warren Sapp/Derrick Brooks/Rhonde Barber/John Lynch on defense.Lastly, Gruden is an in your face type of coach. Will that work with Jay Cutler? Who knows, but the QB's that brought Gruden the most success are Rich Gannon/Brad Johnson...cool customers.
First of all, unless he just fakes it when he's in the booth, Gruden loves Cutler. Every Bears game he covers he goes on and on about Cutler's arm and about his toughness. I think he would love to work with him, and make him a better QB. Secondly, the Bears NEED a fiery in your face coach. The thing I hated the most about Lovie was when someone would commit a stupid penalty on 3rd down, when they would have gotten off the field, and Lovie showed no emotion whatsoever. The Bears, especially Cutler, could use a passionate coach who can get them fired up after nine years of Lovie, who registers barely above "comatose".And as for the rest of what you wrote, you can focus on Gruden's post-Super Bowl record if you want to. I prefer to go by what I hear from him every time I watch him commentate on a game. What I hear is a very knowledgeable football guy, who knows both offense and defense to great degree. Everything I have ever seen him on, he teaches me something about a formation or a play or something that I didn't know before. His knowledge is outstanding, and his temperament is perfect for what the Bears need.
 
'benson_will_lead_the_way said:
'RBM said:
'SmoovySmoov said:
I can't imagine a better fit than Jon Gruden. I really need Emery's phone number.
It really couldn't be more perfect. And Marinelli could stay put with their history.
Gruden and Cutler don't seem like a great fit.Many people only think about his Super Bowl, Gruden didn't have great teams after. 7-9,5-11,11-5,4-12,9-7,9-7
i would love seeing the facial expressions between both of them each week.
 
Here is a list of guys supposedly being interviewed so far:Broncos OC Mike McCoy
So, being a Broncos fan, I really am less than impressed with the play calling of Mike McCoy, and I am not the only one. There are some ex players on the radio locally that agree with this. What he did with Tebow last year showed flexibility, but I wouldn't say they had great game plans or play calling. He is pretty good a making adjustments, but it seems like his "first fifteen" / game plans generally suck. I could be wrong, and if he gives up his play calling ability when he becomes an HC, maybe he'll be great, but I am not sold.I don't think you want to burn good Cutler / Marshall years letting a former OC cut his teeth as an HC if you can avoid it, and there is some experience out there to be had. Just my .02
 
'benson_will_lead_the_way said:
'RBM said:
'benson_will_lead_the_way said:
'RBM said:
'benson_will_lead_the_way said:
'RBM said:
'SmoovySmoov said:
I can't imagine a better fit than Jon Gruden. I really need Emery's phone number.
It really couldn't be more perfect. And Marinelli could stay put with their history.
Gruden and Cutler don't seem like a great fit.Many people only think about his Super Bowl, Gruden didn't have great teams after. 7-9,5-11,11-5,4-12,9-7,9-7
Stop. He's a very good football coach. Don't just ignore what he did in Oakland.And why isn't he and Cutler a great fit? I think any qb with some amount of talent would be a great fit with a guy like Gruden.
Why is he a very good football coach?First off all, are you going to acknowledge that Gruden had a losing overall record in the 6 seasons after winning the super bowl?Second, you're not just going to bring in a big name guy=Gruden/Cowher/etc and they accept just being the coach. They will want total control, personnel decisions. Gruden had that in Tampa Bay and failed, despite having Warren Sapp/Derrick Brooks/Rhonde Barber/John Lynch on defense.Lastly, Gruden is an in your face type of coach. Will that work with Jay Cutler? Who knows, but the QB's that brought Gruden the most success are Rich Gannon/Brad Johnson...cool customers.
Took the Raiders from a last place team to a perennial playoff team. Had a home game in the AFC championship. Had the Pats beat in NE the year they won their first SB. Goes to Tampa and takes a team known for a good D with disappointing finishes and no offense and wins a SB. What more do you need? Perfection? Every great coach has had losing seasons.And we aren't getting Gruden. Emery is a new GM that wants his own guy, that he can have influence over. You can see from the interviews exactly how this headed and that's fine. The Gruden stuff is a pipe dream. Nobody seriously expects Gruden to be a candidate.And lastly....screw Cutler. He isn't good enough to carry any weight in this search.
You clearly don't want to have a discussion here, we'll have to agree to disagree.At least you concur that Gruden won't be a candidate and now onto actual Bears talk.
So you only want to discuss what his post SB record was? Makes sense. Makes about as much sense as a Bear fan going on and on about how he was not worried about the o line before the season.
 
I'm hoping the Bears can land Bruce Arians or McCoy. Preferably Arians, imo. I could see him going to the Eagles though.

 
'benson_will_lead_the_way said:
'RBM said:
'benson_will_lead_the_way said:
'RBM said:
'benson_will_lead_the_way said:
'RBM said:
'SmoovySmoov said:
I can't imagine a better fit than Jon Gruden. I really need Emery's phone number.
It really couldn't be more perfect. And Marinelli could stay put with their history.
Gruden and Cutler don't seem like a great fit.Many people only think about his Super Bowl, Gruden didn't have great teams after. 7-9,5-11,11-5,4-12,9-7,9-7
Stop. He's a very good football coach. Don't just ignore what he did in Oakland.And why isn't he and Cutler a great fit? I think any qb with some amount of talent would be a great fit with a guy like Gruden.
Why is he a very good football coach?First off all, are you going to acknowledge that Gruden had a losing overall record in the 6 seasons after winning the super bowl?Second, you're not just going to bring in a big name guy=Gruden/Cowher/etc and they accept just being the coach. They will want total control, personnel decisions. Gruden had that in Tampa Bay and failed, despite having Warren Sapp/Derrick Brooks/Rhonde Barber/John Lynch on defense.Lastly, Gruden is an in your face type of coach. Will that work with Jay Cutler? Who knows, but the QB's that brought Gruden the most success are Rich Gannon/Brad Johnson...cool customers.
Took the Raiders from a last place team to a perennial playoff team. Had a home game in the AFC championship. Had the Pats beat in NE the year they won their first SB. Goes to Tampa and takes a team known for a good D with disappointing finishes and no offense and wins a SB. What more do you need? Perfection? Every great coach has had losing seasons.And we aren't getting Gruden. Emery is a new GM that wants his own guy, that he can have influence over. You can see from the interviews exactly how this headed and that's fine. The Gruden stuff is a pipe dream. Nobody seriously expects Gruden to be a candidate.And lastly....screw Cutler. He isn't good enough to carry any weight in this search.
You clearly don't want to have a discussion here, we'll have to agree to disagree.At least you concur that Gruden won't be a candidate and now onto actual Bears talk.
So you only want to discuss what his post SB record was? Makes sense. Makes about as much sense as a Bear fan going on and on about how he was not worried about the o line before the season.
Why do you think he started a new thread?
 
'benson_will_lead_the_way said:
'RBM said:
'benson_will_lead_the_way said:
'RBM said:
'benson_will_lead_the_way said:
'RBM said:
'SmoovySmoov said:
I can't imagine a better fit than Jon Gruden. I really need Emery's phone number.
It really couldn't be more perfect. And Marinelli could stay put with their history.
Gruden and Cutler don't seem like a great fit.Many people only think about his Super Bowl, Gruden didn't have great teams after. 7-9,5-11,11-5,4-12,9-7,9-7
Stop. He's a very good football coach. Don't just ignore what he did in Oakland.And why isn't he and Cutler a great fit? I think any qb with some amount of talent would be a great fit with a guy like Gruden.
Why is he a very good football coach?First off all, are you going to acknowledge that Gruden had a losing overall record in the 6 seasons after winning the super bowl?Second, you're not just going to bring in a big name guy=Gruden/Cowher/etc and they accept just being the coach. They will want total control, personnel decisions. Gruden had that in Tampa Bay and failed, despite having Warren Sapp/Derrick Brooks/Rhonde Barber/John Lynch on defense.Lastly, Gruden is an in your face type of coach. Will that work with Jay Cutler? Who knows, but the QB's that brought Gruden the most success are Rich Gannon/Brad Johnson...cool customers.
Took the Raiders from a last place team to a perennial playoff team. Had a home game in the AFC championship. Had the Pats beat in NE the year they won their first SB. Goes to Tampa and takes a team known for a good D with disappointing finishes and no offense and wins a SB. What more do you need? Perfection? Every great coach has had losing seasons.And we aren't getting Gruden. Emery is a new GM that wants his own guy, that he can have influence over. You can see from the interviews exactly how this headed and that's fine. The Gruden stuff is a pipe dream. Nobody seriously expects Gruden to be a candidate.And lastly....screw Cutler. He isn't good enough to carry any weight in this search.
You clearly don't want to have a discussion here, we'll have to agree to disagree.At least you concur that Gruden won't be a candidate and now onto actual Bears talk.
So you only want to discuss what his post SB record was? Makes sense. Makes about as much sense as a Bear fan going on and on about how he was not worried about the o line before the season.
1) We agreed that Gruden isn't a candidate, therefore continuing to discuss him is a waste of time.2) I tried to move on, you're not. Instead bringing up junk to belittle, gain entitlement, or whatever else you're hoping for on the internet.You have two options. A) Drop it and discuss Bears football. B) Continue to belittle and I will block you just like I did Flapgreen because it's a waste of time. You're choice, either way enjoy your weekend.
 
I'm hoping the Bears can land Bruce Arians or McCoy. Preferably Arians, imo. I could see him going to the Eagles though.
I am thinking that Arians is the best guy as well. Arians, Gruden and Holmgren. A younger coach is not going to have an easy time with the wonder boy under center. I am starting to think that the top three priorities for the Bears are a new coach, an OL and preparing for life after the great Jay Cutler!
 
One of the things I love about Emery is that he's an extremely hard worker and very thorough. I'll take a guy like that running my organization any day of the week. I'm believing this team will be a perennial playoff team for years to come.

 
http://espn.go.com/chicago/nfl/story/_/id/8815994/chicago-bears-interview-montreal-alouettes-marc-trestman-sources-say

The Chicago Bears aren't limiting their coaching search to the American game.

Looking north of the border at a noted quarterback guru from the Canadian Football League, the Bears will reportedly interview Montreal Alouettes coach Marc Trestman for their head coaching position.

With Trestman signing an extension with the Alouettes that takes his deal through 2016, it's unknown whether he'll be allowed out of his CFL contract if the Bears decide to hire him.

The NFL Network reported Saturday the Bears plan to interview Trestman as a potential successor to the recently fired Lovie Smith. Sources tell ESPN the interview will happen Monday.

A source with the Alouettes indicated it's likely Trestman would be allowed out of his contract because the team's ownership is "usually pretty good about stuff like that ... although Marc just signed a new extension this year. So I don't know if that might hold things up."

The source added Trestman "works well with a front office" and is "a player's coach for sure."

The timetable for a Trestman interview is unknown because general manager Phil Emery met with Dallas Cowboys special teams coach Joe DeCamillis on Saturday morning in Dallas, according to a source, and will meet Sunday in Denver with Broncos offensive coordinator Mike McCoy.

The club has already interviewed Atlanta Falcons special teams coach Keith Armstrong, Tampa Bay Buccaneers offensive coordinator Mike Sullivan and New Orleans offensive coordinator Pete Carmichael Jr., and has requested permission to interview Green Bay Packers offensive coordinator Tom Clements, as well as Colts offensive coordinator Bruce Arians.

Trestman is coming off an 11-7 season in the CFL. In five seasons with the Alouettes, Trestman has led the club to three appearances in the Grey Cup, including consecutive championships in 2009 and 2010 and has been named the league's coach of the year (2009).
I'm not sure how I feel about this article. Would the Bears seriously consider a CFL HC to take over? Has any CFL coach ever crossed over and been a good NFL HC?
 
I think he has years of experience in the NFL as well.
Good call. I didn't know that. Just looked up his bio and it appears he can do a lot with a little. Hasn't been with the NFL in about 10 years.
NFLTrestman moved to the National Football League and coached the running backs with the Minnesota Vikings in 1985 and 1986. He became quarterbacks coach with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers in 1987 then held the same position with the Cleveland Browns in 1988. In Cleveland he again coached Kosar and the team finished 10–6 and made the playoffs. He was promoted to offensive coordinator in 1989. That year Kosar passed for 3,533 yards and 18 TDs, wide receiver Webster Slaughter had a franchise record 1,236 receiving yards, and the Browns made it to the AFC Championship game.In 1990, Trestman returned to Minnesota as quarterbacks coach for the Vikings. He spent two years there and then left coaching for three years.He returned to the NFL in 1995 as quarterbacks coach and offensive coordinator with San Francisco, where he served in that capacity through 1996. The first year he was there the 49ers led the NFL with 457 points scored, 644 pass attempts and 4,779 passing yards.Trestman joined the Detroit Lions as quarterbacks coach in 1997. That year Lion's quarterback Scott Mitchell passed for 3,484 yards, second most in team history.In 1998 he was with the Arizona Cardinals as quarterbacks coach and offensive coordinator. That year quarterback Jake Plummer threw for 3,737 yards, and the Cardinals made the playoffs for the first time since 1982 and won their first post season game in 51 years.He next went to the Oakland Raiders in 2001 as the quarterbacks coach. In 2002 he was promoted to offensive coordinator and the Raiders led the NFL in total offense with 389.8 yards per game and passing yards with 279.7 per game. Under Trestman's guidance, Raiders QB Rich Gannon won the 2002 NFL MVP award as the Raiders reached Super Bowl XXXVII, losing to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.Trestman spent the 2004 season with the Miami Dolphins before returning to the college ranks.
 
Who ever traded Olsen away should be fired
Angelo and Martz were the brain trustees on that move but I say the CEO should be gone as well.
Sweaty Teddy? George McCaskey has actually came in and started cleaning things up. He means business.
I sure hope that is the case. The McCaskey's are in the business of counting up the profits and if they happen to get a decent team on the field once in a blue moon it is a bonus. The Bears are the only team in the NFL that thinks you win with just a defense.
 

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