Kool-Aid Larry
Footballguy
isn't that just the hobo diet?only with a 6 mile run substituted for a nap under an overpass.
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bentley
Footballguy
Maybe. You don't see a lot of fat hobos, do you?
Some of them look kind of fat because they took in most of their calories from beer and stuff. But mostly, no. Which is more scientific proof that the DrJ plan leads to being thin. Millions of hobos who eat nothing but the cheapest thing they can get their hands pretty much ends the debate.
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You can get thin on anything. It's just funny that your diet somewhat resembles a street urchin because of the parameters that you've set. The bum needs to make sure that he doesn't blow all of his money on food, otherwise he won't be able to get his drink on. For you, you have to eat tree bark in order to make sure you have calories for that highly masculine wine.
John Bender
Footballguy
You still running with this shtick? Kind of boring at this point dude
On the plus side, there's really no excitement to be drained at this point. The whole fat guy seeing how long he can deprive himself from the things that made him fat in the first place schtick has been done about a few million times already.
Britney Spears
guest speaker
WARNING: Reading the Amazon reviews and UP troubleshooting message board has me re-considering. There seem to be some serious battery issues, or at least some very vocal customers that have had issues with the built in battery. The fitbit flex is maybe is looking more appealing at this point.
Chaka
Footballguy
At this point with a PhD in genetics and years of studying diet and nutrition on my own I could probably consider monetizing this, and I may at some point, but I honestly want people like Otis to succeed and if anything I write in these threads helps someone achieve their goals it makes me happy and who cares about money.Besides I am sure O will buy me a really nice glass of heart healthy red wine the next time I get to New York.'DrJ said:
Chaka
Footballguy
So long as his calories are reasonable for the day I think the health benefits of red wine outweigh any other concerns.
phrozen
Footballguy
I'm waiting for the flex.
Kool-Aid Larry
Footballguy
wait --- you have a phd in genetics?which one were you -- the 3 brazil nut guy?
Chaka
Footballguy
Yes, I am the 3 brazil nut guy. And yes, I have a PhD in human genetics that I have never once applied since my thesis defense several years ago. I'm kind of like the Dr. Venkman of human genetics.
Britney Spears
guest speaker
Agreed. I was highly skeptical and definitely was concerned about the price tag, but it gets more use than our oven at this point.Use ours 3-4x/week. It's a breeze to use and clean. Spend a few minutes at night, throw the smoothie in the fridge, and you've got an immediate, healthy breakfast in the morning. Any time I don't use it I regret it. We also have a juicer, and it collects dust. A nice blender is a different deal.I'm guessing somewhere near "never."
Keerock
Footballguy
Trying a fast today. Had an egg & cheese on half a bagel and a coffee for breakfast with my daily supplements. Don't plan on eating until the same time tomorrow. 45 minutes since I ate and I'm still not hungry'Chaka said:It's really not difficult. People have this crazy notion that going a day without food is some kind of grand task, I getlooks all the time when I tell people that I do 24 hour fasts almost every week. The typical response is something like "
Chaka
Footballguy
It's really not difficult. People have this crazy notion that going a day without food is some kind of grand task, I get
Drink lots of water.
Keerock
Footballguy
SOP... thanks!It's really not difficult. People have this crazy notion that going a day without food is some kind of grand task, I get
I'm guessing the studies probably didn't include many people taking in half of their calories from it, though.
proninja
Footballguy
I love how we rip on an overweight guy for eating not very much healthy food and a glass of red wine. What precisely would you guys have him do instead? He's no longer doing some sort of juice fast unsustainable thing, he's just eating real food and not very much of it. Mix in some red wine so it's sustainable.
Statcruncher
Footballguy
It's not just any guy, it's Otis. His dieting track record matches Charlie Brown's kicking prowess. This time it's a juice diet which quickly gives way to a greatly reduced calorie diet which quickly turns into I'm allocating most of my calories to alcohol diet. He deserves every kick he gets until he can concoct and follow a reasonable eating plan.
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Keerock
Footballguy
and 
at the same time...
BroncoFreak_2K3
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proninja
Footballguy
So what do you think he should do differently?
shadyridr
Footballguy
everything
Keerock
Footballguy
Yet... nothing.
Ned
Footballguy
It's because he's the love child of the boy who cried wolf and the internet attention whore. Nobody's going to take it seriously.ETA: I'd love to see him succeed and see him make a big life adjustment. I've been where he's at. It just going to take the right kind of motivation to get the changes to stick.
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Chase Stuart
Footballguy
I'm pretty sure I know the answer, but I'll ask: Otis, are you exercising, too?
Statcruncher
Footballguy
Go on a sustainable diet instead of trying quick fixes. Personally I think the primal/paleo is a great way to eat without counting calories. Then again some people do well eating whatever as long as they hit a caloric goal. There are so many different ways to make long lasting changes to bring a person to where they belong that I can't believe Otis' insta-fat-loss threads are anything but schtick. That's why I don't feel bad hammering him.
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Keerock
Footballguy
So far, so good. Couple of stomach rumblings, but nothing I couldn't ignore.It's really not difficult. People have this crazy notion that going a day without food is some kind of grand task, I get
Chaka
Footballguy
I volunteer for the next one.
Chaka
Footballguy
Good news.Remember it's only a day and a big part of that is going to be spent sleeping.It's really not difficult. People have this crazy notion that going a day without food is some kind of grand task, I get
proninja
Footballguy
Wait, I thought you were the eat whatever you like if the calories are low enough guy. Now he's consuming the wrong calories somehow?
NCCommish
Footballguy
Well I know that when you talk to doctors about kale they love it. But do they recommend turning it into puree? Not so much. What they talk about is eating it. Like in salads. Smoothies don't satiate you as much as regular food, they cause the insulin spikes and they mess with blood sugar. They are not really a great weight loss tool or nutritional tool. Fine for on occasion but not as a regular meal replacement.'proninja said:
E-Z Glider
Footballguy
yeah, still not buying this. so blueberries are great for you when you chew them up into smaller pieces, but when you use a blender to chop them into smaller pieces and then swallow them without chewing, they lose their nutritional value?
NCCommish
Footballguy
Yeah it's called science. When you mess with the fibers of the plant you change how you digest it and when you change how you digest it you change it's value as a food. You can believe it or not.yeah, still not buying this. so blueberries are great for you when you chew them up into smaller pieces, but when you use a blender to chop them into smaller pieces and then swallow them without chewing, they lose their nutritional value?
E-Z Glider
Footballguy
i believe if you change these fibers enough (like with a super-powerful juicer) there might be a slight change, i dont believe that a blender changes them at all, and suggesting they're nothing more than a "nice cool drink on a hot day with little nutritional value" seems utterly ridiculous.Yeah it's called science. When you mess with the fibers of the plant you change how you digest it and when you change how you digest it you change it's value as a food. You can believe it or not.yeah, still not buying this. so blueberries are great for you when you chew them up into smaller pieces, but when you use a blender to chop them into smaller pieces and then swallow them without chewing, they lose their nutritional value?
bigbottom
Footballguy
Kale is rich in Vitamin K, Vitamin A and Vitamin C and contains a bunch of anti-oxidants. Can you provide a link to a scientific journal or a health-related source that states that, once blended, kale has "little nutritional value"? I've actually heard that eating raw kale in a salad, as you suggest, is hard on your digestive system. I get that blended kale may not have the same degree of beneficial effects as, say, steamed kale (particularly as a source of fiber), but your assertion is that kale and other beneficial fruits and vegetables "have little nutritional value" once blended. I'd be interested in reading some sources on this if you know where I can find them.Yeah it's called science. When you mess with the fibers of the plant you change how you digest it and when you change how you digest it you change it's value as a food. You can believe it or not.yeah, still not buying this. so blueberries are great for you when you chew them up into smaller pieces, but when you use a blender to chop them into smaller pieces and then swallow them without chewing, they lose their nutritional value?
shadyridr
Footballguy
haha come on dudeYeah it's called science. When you mess with the fibers of the plant you change how you digest it and when you change how you digest it you change it's value as a food. You can believe it or not.yeah, still not buying this. so blueberries are great for you when you chew them up into smaller pieces, but when you use a blender to chop them into smaller pieces and then swallow them without chewing, they lose their nutritional value?
Ned
Footballguy
So why do I find so many whole kernels of corn in my morning dump?haha come on dudeYeah it's called science. When you mess with the fibers of the plant you change how you digest it and when you change how you digest it you change it's value as a food. You can believe it or not.yeah, still not buying this. so blueberries are great for you when you chew them up into smaller pieces, but when you use a blender to chop them into smaller pieces and then swallow them without chewing, they lose their nutritional value?
Chaka
Footballguy
I don't think he means to say they lack nutrition after blended but that the nutrients are absorbed differently. Sure you get the vitamins and antioxidants but you also get a much bigger insulin spike than if you masticated them yourself. I am not sure there would be any significant change in the fiber and I doubt there would be.yeah, still not buying this. so blueberries are great for you when you chew them up into smaller pieces, but when you use a blender to chop them into smaller pieces and then swallow them without chewing, they lose their nutritional value?
shadyridr
Footballguy
Cuz you didnt blend themSo why do I find so many whole kernels of corn in my morning dump?haha come on dudeYeah it's called science. When you mess with the fibers of the plant you change how you digest it and when you change how you digest it you change it's value as a food. You can believe it or not.yeah, still not buying this. so blueberries are great for you when you chew them up into smaller pieces, but when you use a blender to chop them into smaller pieces and then swallow them without chewing, they lose their nutritional value?
bigbottom
Footballguy
I don't think he means to say they lack nutrition after blended but that the nutrients are absorbed differently. Sure you get the vitamins and antioxidants but you also get a much bigger insulin spike than if you masticated them yourself. I am not sure there would be any significant change in the fiber and I doubt there would be.yeah, still not buying this. so blueberries are great for you when you chew them up into smaller pieces, but when you use a blender to chop them into smaller pieces and then swallow them without chewing, they lose their nutritional value?
'NCCommish said:
If you want to lose weight. Being healthy is a separate discussion. It's pretty hilarious that most of you are pushing a diet that contains 50% of the calories from alcohol as a "healthy" diet. I'm sure primal guy was walking around with a box of wine strapped to his back. He probably ate nothing but tree bark so that he could drink it all and not have issues with his figure, while being sure to get his daily requirement of selenium.'proninja said:
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St. Louis Bob
Footballguy
I HAVE SOME KALE TO GROW, MAN!!!!! /Veggie Boy
Chaka
Footballguy
My bad. NC is off on this one.I don't think he means to say they lack nutrition after blended but that the nutrients are absorbed differently. Sure you get the vitamins and antioxidants but you also get a much bigger insulin spike than if you masticated them yourself. I am not sure there would be any significant change in the fiber and I doubt there would be.yeah, still not buying this. so blueberries are great for you when you chew them up into smaller pieces, but when you use a blender to chop them into smaller pieces and then swallow them without chewing, they lose their nutritional value?'NCCommish said:
Chaka
Footballguy
Chaka
Footballguy
I just grew an awesome turtle head but I had to cut it off.NATTO RULEZ!!!
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