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WR Josh Gordon, KC (2 Viewers)

OK, now that the season is over, where would you rank him among WRs going into next year? As much as I loved having him on my team this year, I don't think I can put him in the top 5 just yet. Ahead of him I still got:

1. Calvin

2. Julio Jones

3. AJ Green

4. Dez Bryant

5. Demaryius Thomas

6. Josh Gordon

 
OK, now that the season is over, where would you rank him among WRs going into next year? As much as I loved having him on my team this year, I don't think I can put him in the top 5 just yet. Ahead of him I still got:

1. Calvin

2. Julio Jones

3. AJ Green

4. Dez Bryant

5. Demaryius Thomas

6. Josh Gordon
I am prepared to get blasted for this, but I could argue that in a dynasty format, Alshon Jefferey should be ranked higher than Gordon.

 
Went I started working on my rankings I usually place him 7 in ppr behind, Calvin,Dez,Demaryious, Julio, AJ GReen and Brandon Marshall (redraft rankings)

I think there is a clear line at the top 7, then after that you rank according to preference/taste/format.

Its along offseason and Gordon had a phenominal year, alot of things will influence his rankings, QB/HC/OC, other weapons, he is 1 strike from a year off from the league I believe too.

I can see moving him to 6 infront of Marshall, but I like the consistency you get from Brandon and Cutler has tunnel vision for him

 
alot of things will influence his rankings, QB/HC/OC, other weapons,
Why would any of these things affect his ranking after last year? He can't get worse in terms of QBs and surrounding weapons and I can't think of any possible HC/OC hires that would make us say "They're not going to use Gordon"

The last-strike issue is the only reason I can see for ranking him below #2 in dynasty formats.

 
alot of things will influence his rankings, QB/HC/OC, other weapons,
Why would any of these things affect his ranking after last year? He can't get worse in terms of QBs and surrounding weapons and I can't think of any possible HC/OC hires that would make us say "They're not going to use Gordon"

The last-strike issue is the only reason I can see for ranking him below #2 in dynasty formats.
Well I think Chud and Norv were actually competent coaches, with respect to getting Josh the ball.

While I agree, Josh is a stud, little things can effect his output, he could easily have a worse season than last year, and keep in mind my talk in general is about re-draft, in dynasty, sure take him #2 overall at WR, not issue there, heck maybe #1, Calvin is approaching 30 ya know

 
Maybe I overreacted a little. Chud and Norv have a good history with the vertical passing game and for all of Weeden's terribleness he does have a good arm and happily locked on to Gordon.

I'm just seeing names like Julio Jones, who hasn't topped 1200 yards in 3 seasons, and Dez Bryant, whose best year in 4 season is 92-1382. I'm trying to figure out how people are putting those guys ahead of a 2nd year player that just had 87-1646 in 14 games. Jones has only played 16 games once and Dez has well-known behavior issue history so it's not like those guys are super safe.

 
Maybe I overreacted a little. Chud and Norv have a good history with the vertical passing game and for all of Weeden's terribleness he does have a good arm and happily locked on to Gordon.

I'm just seeing names like Julio Jones, who hasn't topped 1200 yards in 3 seasons, and Dez Bryant, whose best year in 4 season is 92-1382. I'm trying to figure out how people are putting those guys ahead of a 2nd year player that just had 87-1646 in 14 games. Jones has only played 16 games once and Dez has well-known behavior issue history so it's not like those guys are super safe.
well when you come up with rankings, you try and take everything into account, injuries, situation, risk factor, suspension, coaches, stability of qb etc.

Julio is coming off a big injury, but there is something that I think will increase his value next season, no Tony Gonzalez, those targets/receptions are going somewhere.

Gordons best season in the league even missing two games may very well be his Ceiling season. He had 3 games in a row that were just insane, toping 200 yards two games in a row.

with regards to Dez yeah his off the field issues are risky too, however he has yet to be suspended by the league, and isnt in the subtanse abuse program which Josh is

Does Adam Gase and Blake Blortles make you feeld better about gordon than Norv.Chud & the QBs they had this year? dunno

 
Does Adam Gase and Blake Blortles make you feeld better about gordon than Norv.Chud & the QBs they had this year? dunno
Yeah, I don't know either. I wish I did.

That said, those other guys I mentioned were much more NFL-ready when they got drafted than Gordon. Of course everyone knows he barely had a college career and hadn't played in almost 2 years when he was drafted. That tends to make me think that his second-year production, which the others haven't matched in more seasons, is not his ceiling.

Of course this hobby is all a giant guessing game and anything could happen. but I think we have to start to by looking at the actual NFL results that these guys have produced when trying to guess the future.

 
Maybe I overreacted a little. Chud and Norv have a good history with the vertical passing game and for all of Weeden's terribleness he does have a good arm and happily locked on to Gordon.

I'm just seeing names like Julio Jones, who hasn't topped 1200 yards in 3 seasons, and Dez Bryant, whose best year in 4 season is 92-1382. I'm trying to figure out how people are putting those guys ahead of a 2nd year player that just had 87-1646 in 14 games. Jones has only played 16 games once and Dez has well-known behavior issue history so it's not like those guys are super safe.
well when you come up with rankings, you try and take everything into account, injuries, situation, risk factor, suspension, coaches, stability of qb etc.

Julio is coming off a big injury, but there is something that I think will increase his value next season, no Tony Gonzalez, those targets/receptions are going somewhere.

Gordons best season in the league even missing two games may very well be his Ceiling season. He had 3 games in a row that were just insane, toping 200 yards two games in a row.

with regards to Dez yeah his off the field issues are risky too, however he has yet to be suspended by the league, and isnt in the subtanse abuse program which Josh is

Does Adam Gase and Blake Blortles make you feeld better about gordon than Norv.Chud & the QBs they had this year? dunno
Highly unlikely. He's still raw so has tons of room for improvement. Not to mention he'll be playing with a better QB than what he had to endure this year. It's just crazy talk to think this was his ceiling.

 
how many seasons did Jerry Rice have over 1600? extactly one. Calvin Johnson? One.

Kids good, but lets all have a little perspective, 774 yards in 4 games don't happen every year, like Gordon did this year

 
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As long as Gordon is on the field, he'll be good. Really good. I would not be surprised to see multi-game stretches of low receptions or no TD's, but his game is too good to not turn in a solid season again, regardless of who is throwing the ball. Will a conservative game plan reduce the opportunity? Possibly. But let's not pretend that 2013 was ideal for Gordon. He had mediocrity throwing the ball and a disinterested team who all but threw in the towel early in the season. He was a bright spot and they won some games they probably were not expecting to win.

 
Soulfly3 said:
For Dynasty purposes he's top 3.

Redraft, he's top 5
if he doesn't get popped before training camp, yes.
Time to let this go....its a non issue
based on what I have heard around town it's not. He may have turned a new leaf given his success this season, or he could let it get to his head and revert to former behavior.At his current rate he is not a dynasty buy because you're paying for the ceiling and not getting the he has ####ed up too often discount. Re evaluate in July.

 
Soulfly3 said:
For Dynasty purposes he's top 3.

Redraft, he's top 5
if he doesn't get popped before training camp, yes.
Time to let this go....its a non issue
how can you be so sure? relapses are common for people who "quit" doing drugs
Yeah, I don't know how anyone, even Gordon himself, could be sure at this point that he'll never, ever screw up again. We've seen it happen enough to know it's at least a possibility, so I'd disagree with anyone saying it's a complete non-issue.

 
Pretty sure Gordon is not one strike away from a full season suspension.
pretty sure this is correct. Gordon apparently said he THOUGHT he was one strike away, but I havent heard any credible source confirm it.

Who knows...

Great tool to buy Gordon low tho

 
Pretty sure Gordon is not one strike away from a full season suspension.
pretty sure this is correct. Gordon apparently said he THOUGHT he was one strike away, but I havent heard any credible source confirm it.

Who knows...

Great tool to buy Gordon low tho
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josh_Gordon

On June 7, 2013, the NFL announced that Gordon would be suspended for the first two games of the 2013 season due to violating the NFL's substance-abuse policy, and that another failed drug test could result in a one-year suspension

correct me if i'm wrong because this whole thing is very wacky; but Gordon was in phase 1 when he entered the league due to failed drug tests at school, he entered phased 2 when he "violated the NFL substance-abuse policy" (why its 2 instead of 4 games is the wacky part... maybe me missed a test/meeting and had a really good excuse for it) but no the less if he fails or misses again hes going to be suspended for a while and it might be for a yr.

Theres a reason the NFL suspended him 2 games this yr, players don't get suspended when they get sent to phase 1 they get suspended when they get sent to phase 2. This was very clear during last off-season that he was entered in phase 2 and is in risk of the one-year suspension if he has another slip up ala Justin Blackmon; this was confirmed by multiple reports last summer and now the excuse is Gordon was confused? Sounds more like a tool to use to get market value on Gordon instead. From what I read about the phase 2 the deck is really stacked against a player, constant drug tests and if you miss a test or meeting its considered a failure and boom their suspended. A simple thing like a dead cell phone battery or blown out tire could but Gordon in a lot of trouble but hes the one that put himself in this position.

 
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Pretty sure Gordon is not one strike away from a full season suspension.
pretty sure this is correct. Gordon apparently said he THOUGHT he was one strike away, but I havent heard any credible source confirm it.

Who knows...

Great tool to buy Gordon low tho
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josh_Gordon

On June 7, 2013, the NFL announced that Gordon would be suspended for the first two games of the 2013 season due to violating the NFL's substance-abuse policy, and that another failed drug test could result in a one-year suspension

correct me if i'm wrong because this whole thing is very wacky; but Gordon was in phase 1 when he entered the league due to failed drug tests at school, he entered phased 2 when he "violated the NFL substance-abuse policy" (why its 2 instead of 4 games is the wacky part... maybe me missed a test/meeting and had a really good excuse for it) but no the less if he fails or misses again hes going to be suspended for a while and it might be for a yr.

Theres a reason the NFL suspended him 2 games this yr, players don't get suspended when they get sent to phase 1 they get suspended when they get sent to phase 2. This was very clear during last off-season that he was entered in phase 2 and is in risk of the one-year suspension if he has another slip up ala Justin Blackmon; this was confirmed by multiple reports last summer and now the excuse is Gordon was confused? Sounds more like a tool to use to get market value on Gordon instead. From what I read about the phase 2 the deck is really stacked against a player, constant drug tests and if you miss a test or meeting its considered a failure and boom their suspended. A simple thing like a dead cell phone battery or blown out tire could but Gordon in a lot of trouble but hes the one that put himself in this position.
Think this was posted here earlier in the thread:

http://www.dawgsbynature.com/2013/10/29/5041534/josh-gordon-and-the-mythical-season-long-ban

You can see why people, even Josh, are confused.

 
Pretty sure Gordon is not one strike away from a full season suspension.
pretty sure this is correct. Gordon apparently said he THOUGHT he was one strike away, but I havent heard any credible source confirm it.

Who knows...

Great tool to buy Gordon low tho
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josh_Gordon

On June 7, 2013, the NFL announced that Gordon would be suspended for the first two games of the 2013 season due to violating the NFL's substance-abuse policy, and that another failed drug test could result in a one-year suspension

correct me if i'm wrong because this whole thing is very wacky; but Gordon was in phase 1 when he entered the league due to failed drug tests at school, he entered phased 2 when he "violated the NFL substance-abuse policy" (why its 2 instead of 4 games is the wacky part... maybe me missed a test/meeting and had a really good excuse for it) but no the less if he fails or misses again hes going to be suspended for a while and it might be for a yr.

Theres a reason the NFL suspended him 2 games this yr, players don't get suspended when they get sent to phase 1 they get suspended when they get sent to phase 2. This was very clear during last off-season that he was entered in phase 2 and is in risk of the one-year suspension if he has another slip up ala Justin Blackmon; this was confirmed by multiple reports last summer and now the excuse is Gordon was confused? Sounds more like a tool to use to get market value on Gordon instead. From what I read about the phase 2 the deck is really stacked against a player, constant drug tests and if you miss a test or meeting its considered a failure and boom their suspended. A simple thing like a dead cell phone battery or blown out tire could but Gordon in a lot of trouble but hes the one that put himself in this position.
Think this was posted here earlier in the thread:

http://www.dawgsbynature.com/2013/10/29/5041534/josh-gordon-and-the-mythical-season-long-ban

You can see why people, even Josh, are confused.
Thanks for the link, so nobody really knows and instead of being 1 step away from year long he might be a step and a half away... ok. Also that article came out during the trade rumors so I could see some deception going on here while trying to entice another team to pony up.

Fact is he was suspended once already for something to do with the drug policy and was able to reduce it to 2 games (loss of 4 game checks); if he slips he'll miss a lot of time during the next suspension.

Remember: "Josh Gordon releases statement saying had strep in Feb, took cough medicine he did not realize contained codeine. Bad start w/new regime" and remember how none of us where surprised.

 
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If Gordon somehow doesn't F-up it will be a miracle. Offseason + free time = F-up.

"I'm never gonna stop the puffing
Not for nothing
The block they need me
The streets they need me
The club scene
Is mine believe me"
 
If Gordon somehow doesn't F-up it will be a miracle. Offseason + free time = F-up.

"I'm never gonna stop the puffingNot for nothing

The block they need me

The streets they need me

The club scene

Is mine believe me"
Not sure why you think it will qualify as miraculous but I guess that's just you.

 
If Gordon somehow doesn't F-up it will be a miracle. Offseason + free time = F-up.

"I'm never gonna stop the puffingNot for nothing

The block they need me

The streets they need me

The club scene

Is mine believe me"
Not sure why you think it will qualify as miraculous but I guess that's just you.
College: He was suspended in 2010....He was suspended in 2011....... Pro's: He was suspended in 2013

Along with this:

Shortly after the Browns selected him with a second-round pick in the supplemental draft, receiver Josh Gordon claimed he hadn’t failed a drug test during his brief stint at Utah. Gordon now admits he was lying when he said that.

“Yeah, there was a failed test,” Gordon told the Cleveland Plain Dealer.

The failed drug test at Utah was the third of his college career.

Shortly after the Browns selected him with a second-round pick in the supplemental draft, receiver Josh Gordon claimed he hadn’t failed a drug test during his brief stint at Utah. Gordon now admits he was lying when he said that.

Yeah, there was a failed test,” Gordon told the Cleveland Plain Dealer.

The failed drug test at Utah was the third of his college career.

 
If Gordon somehow doesn't F-up it will be a miracle. Offseason + free time = F-up.

"I'm never gonna stop the puffingNot for nothing

The block they need me

The streets they need me

The club scene

Is mine believe me"
Not sure why you think it will qualify as miraculous but I guess that's just you.
College: He was suspended in 2010....He was suspended in 2011....... Pro's: He was suspended in 2013

Along with this:

Shortly after the Browns selected him with a second-round pick in the supplemental draft, receiver Josh Gordon claimed he hadn’t failed a drug test during his brief stint at Utah. Gordon now admits he was lying when he said that.

“Yeah, there was a failed test,” Gordon told the Cleveland Plain Dealer.

The failed drug test at Utah was the third of his college career.

Shortly after the Browns selected him with a second-round pick in the supplemental draft, receiver Josh Gordon claimed he hadn’t failed a drug test during his brief stint at Utah. Gordon now admits he was lying when he said that.

Yeah, there was a failed test,” Gordon told the Cleveland Plain Dealer.

The failed drug test at Utah was the third of his college career.
Apparently you and I have different definitions of miraculous.

 
Two Deep said:
Chaka said:
Two Deep said:
If Gordon somehow doesn't F-up it will be a miracle. Offseason + free time = F-up.

"I'm never gonna stop the puffingNot for nothing

The block they need me

The streets they need me

The club scene

Is mine believe me"
Not sure why you think it will qualify as miraculous but I guess that's just you.
College: He was suspended in 2010....He was suspended in 2011....... Pro's: He was suspended in 2013

Along with this:

Shortly after the Browns selected him with a second-round pick in the supplemental draft, receiver Josh Gordon claimed he hadn’t failed a drug test during his brief stint at Utah. Gordon now admits he was lying when he said that.

“Yeah, there was a failed test,” Gordon told the Cleveland Plain Dealer.

The failed drug test at Utah was the third of his college career.

Shortly after the Browns selected him with a second-round pick in the supplemental draft, receiver Josh Gordon claimed he hadn’t failed a drug test during his brief stint at Utah. Gordon now admits he was lying when he said that.

Yeah, there was a failed test,” Gordon told the Cleveland Plain Dealer.

The failed drug test at Utah was the third of his college career.
:goodposting:

 
Two Deep said:
Chaka said:
Two Deep said:
If Gordon somehow doesn't F-up it will be a miracle. Offseason + free time = F-up.

"I'm never gonna stop the puffingNot for nothing

The block they need me

The streets they need me

The club scene

Is mine believe me"
Not sure why you think it will qualify as miraculous but I guess that's just you.
College: He was suspended in 2010....He was suspended in 2011....... Pro's: He was suspended in 2013

Along with this:

Shortly after the Browns selected him with a second-round pick in the supplemental draft, receiver Josh Gordon claimed he hadn’t failed a drug test during his brief stint at Utah. Gordon now admits he was lying when he said that.

“Yeah, there was a failed test,” Gordon told the Cleveland Plain Dealer.

The failed drug test at Utah was the third of his college career.

Shortly after the Browns selected him with a second-round pick in the supplemental draft, receiver Josh Gordon claimed he hadn’t failed a drug test during his brief stint at Utah. Gordon now admits he was lying when he said that.

Yeah, there was a failed test,” Gordon told the Cleveland Plain Dealer.

The failed drug test at Utah was the third of his college career.
:goodposting:
so are people hoping he fails to prove they were right? Id like to think at some point a light goes on and he ''gets it'' Ive seen interviews with veteran WR`s who have been around Gordon last season and they have gone on record saying hes matured since the year before.In my opinion hes worth the risk of drafting very early . Personally i grabbed him off waivers so he counts as an 8th rd pick in my keeper league,but i wouldnt hesitate to grab in in the 2nd rd of re-draft .

 
Two Deep said:
Chaka said:
Two Deep said:
If Gordon somehow doesn't F-up it will be a miracle. Offseason + free time = F-up.

"I'm never gonna stop the puffingNot for nothing

The block they need me

The streets they need me

The club scene

Is mine believe me"
Not sure why you think it will qualify as miraculous but I guess that's just you.
College: He was suspended in 2010....He was suspended in 2011....... Pro's: He was suspended in 2013

Along with this:

Shortly after the Browns selected him with a second-round pick in the supplemental draft, receiver Josh Gordon claimed he hadn’t failed a drug test during his brief stint at Utah. Gordon now admits he was lying when he said that.

“Yeah, there was a failed test,” Gordon told the Cleveland Plain Dealer.

The failed drug test at Utah was the third of his college career.

Shortly after the Browns selected him with a second-round pick in the supplemental draft, receiver Josh Gordon claimed he hadn’t failed a drug test during his brief stint at Utah. Gordon now admits he was lying when he said that.

Yeah, there was a failed test,” Gordon told the Cleveland Plain Dealer.

The failed drug test at Utah was the third of his college career.
:goodposting:
so are people hoping he fails to prove they were right? Id like to think at some point a light goes on and he ''gets it'' Ive seen interviews with veteran WR`s who have been around Gordon last season and they have gone on record saying hes matured since the year before.In my opinion hes worth the risk of drafting very early . Personally i grabbed him off waivers so he counts as an 8th rd pick in my keeper league,but i wouldnt hesitate to grab in in the 2nd rd of re-draft .
no, I don't want to see anyone fail from drugs but just playing the numbers game. Could he be over it and the light be turned on, yes ofcourse... but in many causes like this people don't recover until they lose everything or never recover at all. The point of the poster above is hes had an issue just about every yr hes played college and professional football.

 
Two Deep said:
Chaka said:
Two Deep said:
If Gordon somehow doesn't F-up it will be a miracle. Offseason + free time = F-up.

"I'm never gonna stop the puffingNot for nothing

The block they need me

The streets they need me

The club scene

Is mine believe me"
Not sure why you think it will qualify as miraculous but I guess that's just you.
College: He was suspended in 2010....He was suspended in 2011....... Pro's: He was suspended in 2013

Along with this:

Shortly after the Browns selected him with a second-round pick in the supplemental draft, receiver Josh Gordon claimed he hadn’t failed a drug test during his brief stint at Utah. Gordon now admits he was lying when he said that.

“Yeah, there was a failed test,” Gordon told the Cleveland Plain Dealer.

The failed drug test at Utah was the third of his college career.

Shortly after the Browns selected him with a second-round pick in the supplemental draft, receiver Josh Gordon claimed he hadn’t failed a drug test during his brief stint at Utah. Gordon now admits he was lying when he said that.

Yeah, there was a failed test,” Gordon told the Cleveland Plain Dealer.

The failed drug test at Utah was the third of his college career.
:goodposting:
so are people hoping he fails to prove they were right? Id like to think at some point a light goes on and he ''gets it'' Ive seen interviews with veteran WR`s who have been around Gordon last season and they have gone on record saying hes matured since the year before.In my opinion hes worth the risk of drafting very early . Personally i grabbed him off waivers so he counts as an 8th rd pick in my keeper league,but i wouldnt hesitate to grab in in the 2nd rd of re-draft .
no, I don't want to see anyone fail from drugs but just playing the numbers game. Could he be over it and the light be turned on, yes ofcourse... but in many causes like this people don't recover until they lose everything or never recover at all. The point of the poster above is hes had an issue just about every yr hes played college and professional football.
I get being a tad hesitant drafting Gordan because of his past ,but i would rather take a chance on him early than Julio Jones . Julio`s reoccurring foot injury scares me way more.(just an example )

 
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Man, some people talking about Gordon like he is a full blow alcoholic or full blown junkie. Have to lose everything and hit rock bottom???

Immature, irresponsible, and stupid when you are under 22 years old doesnt necessarily equate to "junkie". Neither does getting through the entire season clean, which is what he did when he came back, and obvioulsy also for a while before he came back.

I would agree the offseason is ripe for him to dabble, but cmon, hit rock bottom?? Not sure I see "addiction" here with Gordon.

 
Man, some people talking about Gordon like he is a full blow alcoholic or full blown junkie. Have to lose everything and hit rock bottom???

Immature, irresponsible, and stupid when you are under 22 years old doesnt necessarily equate to "junkie". Neither does getting through the entire season clean, which is what he did when he came back, and obvioulsy also for a while before he came back.

I would agree the offseason is ripe for him to dabble, but cmon, hit rock bottom?? Not sure I see "addiction" here with Gordon.
I don't disagree but he doesn't need to be an addict, he just needs to take a hit of a joint which he appears that he likes to do (NTTAWWT)....

 
Maybe he will end up like Randy Moss. Moss was known to smoke it up and somehow never got popped, or maybe he will end up like Ricky Williams...It's all up to him.

I just envision him moving to Colorado and then saying ...what, it's legal in my state.

 
Rotoworld:

Josh Gordon said he's going to attend Larry Fitzgerald's annual summer training session in Minnesota this year.
Fitzgerald holds a sort-of all-star summer workout for guys to get together and hone their skills before training camp. "I'm definitely going to make the trip,'' said Gordon. "I talked to Larry and he personally invited me out. Michael [irvin] invited me, Jerry [Rice] invited me, so I've got to go. It's going to be fun. It will be in the summer time and help get ready for training camp and hopefully tear it up this season.'' Whatever keeps Gordon occupied and in football mode, away from the off-field issues that have tried to derail him in the past, is music to the Browns ears. Gordon also voiced some displeasure with the departures of Rob Chudzinski and Norv Turner while in New York for Super Bowl festivities.

Source: Cleveland Plain Dealer
 
Browns WR Josh Gordon a 'fan' of Fresno State QB Derek Carr Josh Gordon weighs in on Johnny Manziel, Brian HoyerExcerpt:

On how the game changed for him in his second season: "Year No. 2, you definitely leave those rookie jitters, you know? The game slow down tremendously. You have a lot more confidence in yourself and really just have that hunger to go out there and prove that you can do it on the biggest stage there is. That's the NFL. The fact that I was given an opportunity to start right at the beginning last year. I took advantage of every opportunity I got after my suspension and I never looked back."
 
Rotoworld:

Josh Gordon said he's going to attend Larry Fitzgerald's annual summer training session in Minnesota this year.
Fitzgerald holds a sort-of all-star summer workout for guys to get together and hone their skills before training camp. "I'm definitely going to make the trip,'' said Gordon. "I talked to Larry and he personally invited me out. Michael [irvin] invited me, Jerry [Rice] invited me, so I've got to go. It's going to be fun. It will be in the summer time and help get ready for training camp and hopefully tear it up this season.''

Source: Cleveland Plain Dealer
:popcorn:

 
Man, some people talking about Gordon like he is a full blow alcoholic or full blown junkie. Have to lose everything and hit rock bottom???

Immature, irresponsible, and stupid when you are under 22 years old doesnt necessarily equate to "junkie". Neither does getting through the entire season clean, which is what he did when he came back, and obvioulsy also for a while before he came back.

I would agree the offseason is ripe for him to dabble, but cmon, hit rock bottom?? Not sure I see "addiction" here with Gordon.
The NFL drug program is no joke. You don't have to be an addict to fail a test. Someone posted an article about a former player and the program and I didn't know how tough the program is until then.
 
Rotoworld:

The Cleveland Plain Dealer expects Josh Gordon to "continue to tear it up" under new OC Kyle Shanahan.

As do we. The Shanahan & Son offense is ideal for a field-stretching "X" receiver like Gordon. When Kyle Shanahan was the offensive coordinator for the Texans from 2008-09, Andre Johnson averaged 108 catches for 1,572 yards with 8.5 touchdowns -- two of the best seasons of his career. Last season, Pierre Garcon led the NFL in both catches (113) and targets (184) while playing for Shanny. We'd expect Gordon to improve on the 87 catches and nine touchdowns he posted in 2013.


Source: Cleveland Plain Dealer
 
Man, some people talking about Gordon like he is a full blow alcoholic or full blown junkie. Have to lose everything and hit rock bottom???

Immature, irresponsible, and stupid when you are under 22 years old doesnt necessarily equate to "junkie". Neither does getting through the entire season clean, which is what he did when he came back, and obvioulsy also for a while before he came back.

I would agree the offseason is ripe for him to dabble, but cmon, hit rock bottom?? Not sure I see "addiction" here with Gordon.
The NFL drug program is no joke. You don't have to be an addict to fail a test. Someone posted an article about a former player and the program and I didn't know how tough the program is until then.
http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2013/08/26/inside-nfl-substance-abuse-program/

it does sound really tough and the deck is stacked against you

 
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