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Is this University racist against white people? (1 Viewer)
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bigbottom
Footballguy
Another good article: Diversity at HBCUs: How Alcorn State is Leading the Charge
Some excerpts:
Some excerpts:
Advocates and university representatives publicly call for reduced representation of black students and increased enrollment of non-black students at HBCUs in the name of diversity and they weren't flamed for it. The precise example you requested in your challenge. Feel free to poop on the chess board.
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Just fyi for anyone that doesn’t feel like reading http://www.wwu.edu/president/blog/posts/24.shtml the entire thing is bs
Since drummer wasn’t able to post any parts he found particularly important I will
Why the research results indicating this link between staff composition and student success? Ask a student of color what they mean when they say they need to see faculty and staff “who look like them.” Do they really mean physically look like them? Provost Carbajal recently asked that question (in Spanish) of Hispanic students at a school in the Skagit Valley. The answers went something like, “No, not someone who physically looks like us but rather someone for whom we do not have to constantly explain ourselves.”
Hilarious
Since drummer wasn’t able to post any parts he found particularly important I will
Why the research results indicating this link between staff composition and student success? Ask a student of color what they mean when they say they need to see faculty and staff “who look like them.” Do they really mean physically look like them? Provost Carbajal recently asked that question (in Spanish) of Hispanic students at a school in the Skagit Valley. The answers went something like, “No, not someone who physically looks like us but rather someone for whom we do not have to constantly explain ourselves.”
Hilarious
fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
Look to the cookie
drummer
Footballguy
Chaka
Footballguy
That's nice and completely irrelevant to what Shepard said, but keep trying to spin it like he said something that fits whatever point it is that you are pretending to make.
Chaka
Footballguy
Still waiting, since the OP btw, for you to point out where he said anything racist at all.
timschochet
Footballguy
Stop it! Stop picking on him. Why are you so mean?
Chaka
Footballguy
Clifford
Footballguy
You example isn't accepted. There's a whole article about how terrible it is, and even discussions on message boards.
This university's quest for racial diversity, unbecoming of an institution of higher learning, has not gone unnoticed or without protest.
omally
Footballguy
One of my best friends went to NC State with me and some other friends, and he played more than studied his first two years. His gpa wasn't awful, but he underachieved for someone with his intelligence. His parents decided to stop paying for his college education since he wasn't taking it seriously, so he transferred to North Carolina A&T State University. It is a HBCU school, and he received a minority scholarship. He is white. He graduated from there with a degree in Engineering.
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Clifford
Footballguy
Black Colleges Diversifying By Recruiting More Hispanicshttp://diverseeducation.com/article/6210/
Is this enough to get you to ####?
El Floppo
Footballguy
Gotta say- his method and think skin are grating, but if I read his words right, bottom-line, this johnjohn guy wants everybody to be treated the same regardless of skin color. A very nice thought.
Welcome to... the history of the world? I hope you can figure out ways of moving forward in life without being aggressively pissed off, seemingly all the time.
Welcome to... the history of the world? I hope you can figure out ways of moving forward in life without being aggressively pissed off, seemingly all the time.
Clifford
Footballguy
Chaka
Footballguy
The argument he is making is fatuous at best because it in no way, shape or form relates to what Shepard said. A fact that he continues to ignore while pretending that he cares about defending his false premise.
But that is his technique, and he is quite good at it. He is a peacock. All JJ wants is thread responses. They make him feel good about himself because he equates responses to actual importance. Trying to confront the points he is pretending he cares about with the intention of demonstrating where his logic is incorrect is a lesson in futility.
Chaka
Footballguy
Perhaps and I think that one of his favorite techniques is to establish a false premises, like he has done in this thread, so he can make such grandiose statements to make him seem enlightened in to us (or himself).
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timschochet
Footballguy
Leave him alone! Why don't you pick on someone your own size?
El Floppo
Footballguy
I disagree. Seems like what he wants is to tell people that he's right and they're wrong. But yeah... the more responses he gets, the more he can do that- so I guess we're both right!
Chaka
Footballguy
timschochet
Footballguy
Oh you're so mean.
BustedKnuckles
Footballguy
William: We'll make spears. Hundreds of them, long spears. Twice as long as a man.
Hamish: That long?
William: Aye.
Hamish: Some men are longer than others.
The_Man
Footballguy
Haven't read much of this thread, but would be happy to help bring it to a close with this NY Times article:
Thomas J. Espenshade, a sociologist at Princeton and the author of “No Longer Separate, Not Yet Equal: Race and Class in Elite College Admission and Campus Life,” showed in his research that Asian-Americans needed SAT scores that were about 140 points higher than white students, all other quantifiable variables being equal, to get into elite schools.
He studied comprehensive data from 30 different colleges starting in 1997, “and we found that, holding a lot of other things constant, there was a good deal of influence based on race or ethnicity,” Mr. Espenshade said.
bigbottom
Footballguy
This has already been raised and dismissed by the judging panel (consisting solely of johnjohn).
The_Man
Footballguy
Thank you for the clarification. I have now entered and exited this thread for the last time. Enjoy!
bigbottom
Footballguy
Chaka
Footballguy
When white universities do it it's because of reverse racism when black universities do it it's because they need money.
Try to keep up.
The very fact there are black colleges is racist against white people. It seems their racist school has had trouble filling up due to black people going to other universities(this has been stated in articles you have posted) so now black colleges are forced to be less racist, and saying hey, we don't just accept black people here you know.
Clearly that isn't the same
Oh my dear Lord.
slackjawedyokel
Footballguy
I believe this is the content that bigbottom was previously referring to. It proves that colleges do indeed discriminate, for whatever reason, and not solely against whites.
El Floppo
Footballguy
Of course. But history has proven otherwise. So what's your plan? Pointing out methods in place that try to deal with historically systemic racism by putting white people at a perceived disadvantage is incredibly- woefully- short and small-sighted. And I hope it also doesn't involve acting the way the way you've acted in this forum... because eliminating racism is a noble, idealistic cause not befitting the methods you've shown so far (starting threads with clear intent of riling people up and then becoming annoyed, dismissive and feeling hypocritically persecuted when they are).
Clifford
Footballguy
Since anyone can be judge, I declare this post to be the WINNER of the thread and that johnjohn has been thoroughly bested in his challenge. johnjohn, you lose, completely and totally. This is absolute proof that what is going on at WWU is not limited to racism against whites but is actually extended to racism of any race that makes up a disproportionate part of the student body.
You, johnjohn, are wrong and a loser of this debate. You are now required to state that you are completely, 100% wrong on this subject, declare fealty to Lewis Farrakhan, and turn in your Stormfront badge.
/thread.
Clifford
Footballguy
You are wrong. You lose this debate. Good luck on your next one. Bigbottom wins, you lose.
All I can do is make people aware about it, and it will be awareness that potentially brings changes.
as for the part you typed in the ( ) I disagree with that. I appreciate your attempts at being a forum psychologist and trying to understand my real intentions but I assure you they are all noble and the intention isn't to rile anyone up.
At the same time, if people get riled up when I point out racism I am not going to let that bully me into be quiet and letting racism go on without anyone saying anything.
Forum should be a way for the common folks to discuss issues(be it important issues like racism or lesser issues) peacefully and maturely, which is what I have been trying very hard to do. It is because I am a christian I am able to have so much self-control when faced with abusive responses that are unwarranted, and I hope I can remain strong because I don't want to sink to their level of hate.
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this is the kind of stuff i am talking about. It is why people aren't afraid to be racist against white people, and it is indeed a real problem.
El Floppo
Footballguy
People are already aware of racism. So far, you're not telling anybody a thing they don't know.
But you're lacking some self-awareness if you think you're exhibiting the bolded in here... you're really not. I don't claim to know what type of person you are- and I actually believe everybody's good at heart. All I have to go from are your words in this forum, and so far too many of them are mean-spirited, argumentative, dismissive and hypocritically defensive.
To be fair, white people in the past did some pretty nasty things to people of other ethnic backgrounds, but so did everyone else in those backgrounds, many to people of their own kind. That certainly doesn't excuse other people's treatment of whites, but disliking someone based purely on their skin color is stupidity of a high order.
simey
Footballguy
Your fishing trip is as bad as your motive for starting this thread. Historically Black Colleges and Universities were created to give the black community a higher level of education, because originally blacks weren't allowed at colleges that whites attended. Whites have always been allowed to attend black colleges or universities.
multiple people in this thread have said white people don't face racism in the USA, so you are wrong about them knowing.
Also, no one here seems to get its okay to be racist against white people so I am trying to educate on that as well
as for the bolded if you actually read every post I have and see the replies you will see I am showing a lot of restraint and I am not being mean-spirited and I am being quite peaceful
Clifford
Footballguy
So you're educating us on the fact that it's ok to be racist against white people? You sure are going about it in a strange way, but at least you clarified the main point you want people to walk away with. Kill Whitey!
BustedKnuckles
Footballguy
so whats your story,have you been repeatedly discriminated against? (im guessing you`re white)
I am trying to get people to understand that everyone isn't afraid to be racist against white people. Not so they act racist towards white people but so we as a community shun people that act racist towards white people like we do with any other race.
