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*** OFFICIAL *** 13/14 Off-Season Dynasty Trade Thread (1 Viewer)
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ConnSKINS26
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This trade is being killed in my league right now (though most likely because I already have a really good roster).
Is it really that bad? All over FBG's and DLF people are jumping ship on Gordon (and DGB).
I would say it is pretty thin if I were being honest. Johnson I don't see as more than a middle tier devy prospect.
The owner obviously wanted to dump his problems on someone else but I think he could have gotten more...or hope he could maybe as a Gordon owner
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
Thanks for your honest opinion. I guess I just see people bailing left and right on Gordon, saying he won't even be a football player by 2016, and I thought I was taking on the risk in this deal.
You are for sure taking all the risk.
However you are also getting elite talent that is NFL proven if he can ever get back along wih a devy 1st and another troubled high end prospect. Just enough swings at a home run for very little.
Whatever the other owner bailed way too early and for too little...you as an owner are not responsible for his team and obviously not many others were making Gordon offers
I was the other side of the Pierce Marquess Wilson trade above...I had to look a couple times but I didn't think too hard about accepting it. I like Wilson but not that much
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cstu
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You're not taking that much risk because you only gave up a RB who is probably the 5th best in his class. Getting the 1st (even devy devalued) really makes it look like you got Gordon and DGB for almost nothing.
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
Obviously I'm biased, defending the deal.
But if Duke Johnson is the next Gio (with 4.3 wheels) as the other owner told me he believes, I don't think I'm getting those risky players for almost nothing.
EBF
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What if Duke Johnson is the next Johnathan Franklin? That seems more likely to me.
I might take half a season of Josh Gordon over Duke's entire NFL career. The 1st takes a lot of the risk out of it. Even if you never get a single start from Gordon or DGB, you still might break even or win.
Aunt Jemima
Footballguy
ffpc ppr dynasty
Team A - Odell Beckham, rookie picks 3.4,3.8,5.8
Team B - Arian Foster
Team A - Odell Beckham, rookie picks 3.4,3.8,5.8
Team B - Arian Foster
Aunt Jemima
Footballguy
one more ffpc dynasty
team A - Odell Beckham
team B - TY Hilton, rookie pick 3.8
team A - Odell Beckham
team B - TY Hilton, rookie pick 3.8
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
What's not to get? It's horrible.Andy Dufresne said:
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
I agree with your overall sentiment, but he couldn't have both Gio and Jeffrey on his team.cstu said:
Hankmoody
Footballguy
If people aren't happy, then ask them why they didn't make a better offer? Or any offer?ConnSKINS26 said:
Crickets.
Yeah it's a bailout trade. Big deal. Those happen, and sometimes they work, sometimes they don't. Occasionally they work for both. If Johnson ends up a top 5 rookie next year people will be lamenting you giving him up for two morons and a pick.
opensourcebeer
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16 team ppr, start qrwwtffkd. All these trades occurred during the rookie draft (http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=705948&p=16863582)!
Team W gave up Griffin, Ryan
Team U gave up 3.08
Team T gave up Fitzpatrick, Ryan; Woodhead, Danny; Gronkowski, Rob NEP TE; 2015 3rd (mid-late)
Team W gave up Ellington, Andre; 2015 2nd rd (early)
Team Clumsy gave up Brees, Drew; 3.04
Team U gave up Romo, Tony; Murray, DeMarco
Team L gave up 2.06
Team R gave up Wilson, David; 3.14
Team H gave up 2.09; 2015 3rd (mid); $10.00 in blind bidding
Team F gave up 2.02
Team T gave up Miller, Heath
Team R gave up 2015 3rd (mid-late)
Team T gave up 1.15; $10.00 in blind bidding
Team R gave up 2.08; 2.15
Team T gave up Welker, Wes; $20.00 in blind bidding
Team B gave up 1.15
Team M gave up Williams, Terrance; Housler, Robert; 2015 1st (late)
Team F gave up 1.05; 3.02
Team H gave up 1.04; 2.10; $10.00 in blind bidding
Team M gave up 1.05; 2.05
Team M gave up Amendola, Danny; Williams, Mike
Team D gave up 1.11
Team W gave up Griffin, Ryan
Team U gave up 3.08
Team T gave up Fitzpatrick, Ryan; Woodhead, Danny; Gronkowski, Rob NEP TE; 2015 3rd (mid-late)
Team W gave up Ellington, Andre; 2015 2nd rd (early)
Team Clumsy gave up Brees, Drew; 3.04
Team U gave up Romo, Tony; Murray, DeMarco
Team L gave up 2.06
Team R gave up Wilson, David; 3.14
Team H gave up 2.09; 2015 3rd (mid); $10.00 in blind bidding
Team F gave up 2.02
Team T gave up Miller, Heath
Team R gave up 2015 3rd (mid-late)
Team T gave up 1.15; $10.00 in blind bidding
Team R gave up 2.08; 2.15
Team T gave up Welker, Wes; $20.00 in blind bidding
Team B gave up 1.15
Team M gave up Williams, Terrance; Housler, Robert; 2015 1st (late)
Team F gave up 1.05; 3.02
Team H gave up 1.04; 2.10; $10.00 in blind bidding
Team M gave up 1.05; 2.05
Team M gave up Amendola, Danny; Williams, Mike
Team D gave up 1.11
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bostonfred
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bostonfred
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I'm not a big Williams guy - he's a decent prospect, but I don't think he's especially talented and he's the fourth option on that team right now behind Dez, Witten and Murray. I'm a bigger than average Austin guy, because he might be the #1 option on the team if he stays healthy, and he's an easy drop/bench if he's not. The market clearly favors Williams right now, imo, so this is a bad trade by those standards. But my question is, what kind of balls did the Austin owner have asking for a 6th round rookie pick to get this deal done?What's not to get? It's horrible.Andy Dufresne said:
Dez
Footballguy
Beats last year where a guy gave up 1.05 for Miles Austin (L-Bell, Hopkins, Patterson all could been had at 1.05) and what makes it worse it was by a rebuilding team (the one getting Austin) but why should we be surprised we see horrible trades all the times.What's not to get? It's horrible.Andy Dufresne said:
cstu
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King of the Jungle
Footballguy
When Gronk/Graham are healthy they are top 10 WRs. Gordon looks like toast and I am not a fan of Hopkins becoming a stud. Give me the TE's......especially in non-PPR........not.....very....close...imo.
thaniz
Footballguy
14 team IDP league. We have 3 round drafts.
Gave 10th overall pick, got
1 pick in round 1 2015, 1 pick in round 2 2015 (probably late picks)
8th pick in round 2 this year.
So I'm without a first pick in this year's draft and I'll make my first pick att pick 22 overall. Will be interesting to see what's left at that rage.
Gave 10th overall pick, got
1 pick in round 1 2015, 1 pick in round 2 2015 (probably late picks)
8th pick in round 2 this year.
So I'm without a first pick in this year's draft and I'll make my first pick att pick 22 overall. Will be interesting to see what's left at that rage.
Scoonie Pencil
Footballguy
Q RR WWW T F K D PPR, (1.5 TE PPR), 1pt/20returns yard scoring
Team A Receives: Mike Wallace, 2015 4th
Team B Receives: 2.3, 2015 3rd
Team A Receives: Aaron Dobson, Bernard Pierce, 3.6
Team C Receives: Mike Wallace, D'Anthony Thomas
Team B Receives: Dwayne Bowe, 2015 2nd
Team C Receives: Vernon Davis
Team E Receives: 1.3
Team F Receives Ladarius Green, 1.9
Note: Picks are for a rookie/devy combined draft. For 2014 Rookie/Devy draft, only players eligible for 2015 draft can be devy'd. Watkins, Evans, and Sankey were devy'd last year. Cooks, Ebron, Beckham, Hyde are available. Plus all of the first time eligible devy guys. Guess is Gurley will go 1.1.
Team A Receives: Mike Wallace, 2015 4th
Team B Receives: 2.3, 2015 3rd
Team A Receives: Aaron Dobson, Bernard Pierce, 3.6
Team C Receives: Mike Wallace, D'Anthony Thomas
Team B Receives: Dwayne Bowe, 2015 2nd
Team C Receives: Vernon Davis
Team E Receives: 1.3
Team F Receives Ladarius Green, 1.9
Note: Picks are for a rookie/devy combined draft. For 2014 Rookie/Devy draft, only players eligible for 2015 draft can be devy'd. Watkins, Evans, and Sankey were devy'd last year. Cooks, Ebron, Beckham, Hyde are available. Plus all of the first time eligible devy guys. Guess is Gurley will go 1.1.
Scoonie Pencil
Footballguy
I can understand it in either direction, but I'd probably take your side. Still decent value at 22. And it feels like there is a decent drop-off right before before 1.10 this year (unless someone falls).
One thing I've learned in rookie drafts is that you can always count on someone falling. Still, another thing I've learned in rookie drafts is that a lot of picks that look like they're going to be late wind up not being late, either due to injury or schedule luck or teams simply not being as good as you'd think. I think that's a pretty solid trade whose downside is that you break even in the long run, and whose upside is much higher. I'd gladly do it.
cstu
Footballguy
Scoonie Pencil
Footballguy
Scoonie Pencil
Footballguy
Bernard. I'm way lower on Hopkins than most though.dewmass said:
loose circuits
Footballguy
12 team PPR
I just gave up Devonta Freeman for 4.02 & 2015 1st rounder (probably not top 3, but could be anywhere else)
This was right after I picked him at 1.11.
I just gave up Devonta Freeman for 4.02 & 2015 1st rounder (probably not top 3, but could be anywhere else)
This was right after I picked him at 1.11.
GoodLloydHaveMercy
Footballguy
I am Team A
12 team non-ppr
QB RB RB WR WR WR TE K DEF
25 yds per pt passing
10 yds per pt rushing/receiving
30 yds per pt kick/punt return
All TDs 6 pts
29 man rosters
3 rd rookie draft
2 Trades
Team A gives: Doug Martin, 3.1, 2nd rd in 2015 (likely 2.9 to 2.12 range)
Team B gives: 1.6, 2.5, 3.6
Trade 2:
Team A Gives: 2.5 (which was newly acquired)
Team C Gives: Andrew Dalton
12 team non-ppr
QB RB RB WR WR WR TE K DEF
25 yds per pt passing
10 yds per pt rushing/receiving
30 yds per pt kick/punt return
All TDs 6 pts
29 man rosters
3 rd rookie draft
2 Trades
Team A gives: Doug Martin, 3.1, 2nd rd in 2015 (likely 2.9 to 2.12 range)
Team B gives: 1.6, 2.5, 3.6
Trade 2:
Team A Gives: 2.5 (which was newly acquired)
Team C Gives: Andrew Dalton
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EBF
Footballguy
I feel like Robinson has a pretty big edge here. Randle isn't terrible, but he also hasn't done much to show he's great through two seasons and the Beckham pick doesn't seem like a ringing endorsement. I feel like Robinson's realistic worst case scenario in 1-2 years will be what Randle is today, so it seems like a freeroll.
EBF
Footballguy
I'd take Doug over the pick in a 2RB league. Seems like a pretty easy decision.
I'd rather have the pick than Dalton, who has seemingly topped out as a mediocre player.
False Start
Footballguy
False Start
Footballguy
Bernard and its not close.dewmass said:
False Start
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False Start
Footballguy
You ain't lying. I wouldnt move Gronk for Ellington by himself.The Ellington hype is out of hand.
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False Start
Footballguy
GoodLloydHaveMercy
Footballguy
As the guy trading Martin away I feel I'm gonna be able to replace what he will bring to the table this yr... I have soured on him a bit and I was ready to move on... I already had 1.5 so nabbing the 1.6 was the best I could do as I tested the owners of 1.1 - 1.4
I'm also a Cam owner so having dalton in the fold seems logical to me... I also have another buyer who seems interested in dalton since in THIS league he finished as the number 3 qb in fantasy last yr... I do not feel he is much more than a middling qb2 but I think I can package him and a player for a late 1 or an earlier 2nd Rder closer to our draft day which is typically after the 3rd preseason game...
I know I know "great story bro"
Just trying to expound on the logic behind the trades
GoodLloydHaveMercy
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