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***OFFICIAL*** Green Bay vs Seattle Season Opener Thread! (1 Viewer)
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sho nuff
Footballguy
Season is brand new...you might want to pace your trolling.Vector said:Only if you're a delusional Packer fan. To any other neutral party it is a totally valid prediction.BeaverCleaver said:Vector said:Packer fans can predict a Packer win and it's not trolling, but simply good posting. Seahawk fans doing the same are trolls though
Same as it ever was.predicting a Seahawks win 45-13 is trolling compared to someone predicting a Packers win.
Same as it ever was.
I think only iTS has the kind of energy to pull it off all year long.
sho nuff
Footballguy
Fair enough.ShamrockPride said:
Its not just about putting up yardage in big chunks.
Its about having the balance now that they have not had.
Even without Rodgers for much of last year they were equal to Seattle in points per game scored.
Add in a healthy Rodgers, a 2nd year of Lacy, Bulaga back at T and Cobb and Nelson healthy (at least for this game)...I don't think its crazy to rate the Packers O better.
Is it enough to make up for how good Seattle's D is? I don't know. Definitely going to be a tough tough game for the Packers O.
And will be interesting to see if GB's D has improved at all. Definitely hopeful.
BTW...I don't think Seattle's run game will make the Packers beg for mercy. Its not as if they have not faced tough running offenses before (and that Adrian guy twice a year).
sho nuff
Footballguy
seahawk 17
Footballguy
That statement couldn't be further from the truth.Phenomena said:
seahawk 17
Footballguy
I'm not going to get all jacked up for this game and start talking #### this early. I will say that, Justin Britt is going to have a long night because of Clay Matthews. Zach Miller won't be a factor in the passing game, because he is going to be on the line blocking all night. Seattle still wins this game.
Sorry for actually talking football. Carry on.
Sorry for actually talking football. Carry on.
Sabertooth
Footballguy
Now that's a fan! Packers win this one though. Since the Fail Mary the Packers have been the most wounded team in the NFL. Seattle conversely has been the third healthiest team. Can't wait to watch them play each other and I'm very happy it's going to happen to open the season.Vector said:
Sabertooth
Footballguy
I don't have a subscription to OUTImTheScientist said:
Sabertooth
Footballguy
Right now the Packers defense is better. They have better corners, the best pass rushers in the NFL and the addition of future HOFer Julius Peppers. Clay Matthews is playing as good as any pass rusher in the league TODAY. Seattle's timing will be off with the speed of the Packers corners.Largent said:
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Sabertooth
Footballguy
This is all true. Hyde should have made that play and showed his lack of elite athleticism there.
I predict a Sam Shields pick 6 seals this one.
sho nuff
Footballguy
Dude...you are sounding like a Packers version of ITS.
You might want to step back a little bit.
Sabertooth
Footballguy
I just copied his nonsense and changes the names. Saying the Packers defense is better than the Hawks is just as crazy as saying the Hawks offense is better than the Packers. Just silliness.
sho nuff
Footballguy
CapnJB
Footballguy
Wilson has thrown no interceptions this preseason. No big deal... it's preseason.
He threw no interceptions in the divisional round of the playoffs, the NFC championship game or the Super Bowl. That's kind of a big deal. Wilson just makes really good decisions all the time.
Green Bay might get a pick... crazy things happen, but predicting a pick-six probably isn't the best bet to make.
ImTheScientist
Footballguy
Not sure if you can prove that, either way.....maybe the Packers need to look into changing their conditioning program. Hawks are very unique in what they do and its keeping them healthy.Now that's a fan! Packers win this one though. Since the Fail Mary the Packers have been the most wounded team in the NFL. Seattle conversely has been the third healthiest team. Can't wait to watch them play each other and I'm very happy it's going to happen to open the season.Vector said:
ImTheScientist
Footballguy
Alex P Keaton
Footballguy
You realize one team was missing it's starting QB half the year, right?They both averaged 26.1 ppg last year.
CapnJB
Footballguy
Well... then we should look at the postseason average.You realize one team was missing it's starting QB half the year, right?They both averaged 26.1 ppg last year.
sho nuff
Footballguy
I guess you can hope Flynn plays a lot this game too...and no Cobb...and Nelson getting dinged up too right?They both averaged 26.1 ppg last year.
Vector
Footballguy
Calm down buddy, this will be a long painful season for you.I guess you can hope Flynn plays a lot this game too...and no Cobb...and Nelson getting dinged up too right?They both averaged 26.1 ppg last year.
ImTheScientist
Footballguy
One plays in the NFC west, but I don't need to make excuses. Facts are the facts.Eta: kiss the ringYou realize one team was missing it's starting QB half the year, right?They both averaged 26.1 ppg last year.
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sho nuff
Footballguy
Just one ring? How cute.One plays in the NFC west, but I don't need to make excuses. Facts are the facts.Eta: kiss the ringYou realize one team was missing it's starting QB half the year, right?They both averaged 26.1 ppg last year.
The General
Footballguy
Hawks 30 - Pack 16
Will be absolutely crazy in the stadium, folks will have been drinking early and often in 80 degree tailgaiting weather. If Hawks can jump out early it will turn into a blowout.
Lacy will run a bit in this one.
Will be absolutely crazy in the stadium, folks will have been drinking early and often in 80 degree tailgaiting weather. If Hawks can jump out early it will turn into a blowout.
Lacy will run a bit in this one.
Sabertooth
Footballguy
I can prove it. I agree 100% the Packers need to look into their conditioning program. Been saying it for years.Not sure if you can prove that, either way.....maybe the Packers need to look into changing their conditioning program. Hawks are very unique in what they do and its keeping them healthy.Now that's a fan! Packers win this one though. Since the Fail Mary the Packers have been the most wounded team in the NFL. Seattle conversely has been the third healthiest team. Can't wait to watch them play each other and I'm very happy it's going to happen to open the season.Vector said:
Sabertooth
Footballguy
Sabertooth
Footballguy
Honestly I think Seattle is the favorite for good reason. It's going to be interesting to watch how Green Bay attacks their defense. Do I think their defense is capable of completely shutting down Rodgers and company? No, I don't think in today's NFL, you can shut anyone as good as Rodgers down. I think the Packers have to rely on a Lacy and Cobb in this one as I believe Sherman is going to shut Jordy down. I think Jordy ends up with like a 3-50 type of day. This game is going to come down to Lacy and Stark and Cobb. Losing their center is a big blow but the Packers boast two very good guards in Lang and Sitton. Bulaga is good, but not great and coming back from injury. Bahtiari looked good but who knows if the sophomore slump is in store for him.
I also think the Packers lack the Seahawks punch on special teams. It's just been a weakness for the Packers. If it isn't fumbles, it's slow players. They just lack pop there. Not sure who is returning punts but I doubt it's Cobb or Jordy. If it's Micah Hyde, then at least they have a solid guy to catch the ball and not lay it on the ground. But he's not really a threat to break anything more than an average guy.
On the other side of the ball, I think the Packers can limit the rushing game effectiveness and I also think Shields is a great player to mirror Harvin with. He's just got that quick step to stick with him. He closes on the ball as good as anyone on the Packers D. The pass rush is going to be key for the Packers. How will Peppers, Matthews do together? Peppers is playing LOLB for the first time in his life. He'll probably do fine on 3rd downs and long yardage but I see a square peg in a round hole there (Kampman redux). The Packers have Hawk in the middle who can tackle. He's big and not fast or smart, but when he hits the guys don't usually break through. He'll do much better against Lynch then he would McCoy or Charles. Brad Jones isn't anything special.
So you have to think Lynch is going to go for like 20-105 and 1 or 2 catches or something like that and probably a score. Put that alone isn't going to be enough to beat the Packers. You are going to need to score probably 25 at least. The over/under and spread on this game equate to about a Vegas prediction of Seahawks winning 26 - 19 which I think sells the Packers short.
I also think the Packers lack the Seahawks punch on special teams. It's just been a weakness for the Packers. If it isn't fumbles, it's slow players. They just lack pop there. Not sure who is returning punts but I doubt it's Cobb or Jordy. If it's Micah Hyde, then at least they have a solid guy to catch the ball and not lay it on the ground. But he's not really a threat to break anything more than an average guy.
On the other side of the ball, I think the Packers can limit the rushing game effectiveness and I also think Shields is a great player to mirror Harvin with. He's just got that quick step to stick with him. He closes on the ball as good as anyone on the Packers D. The pass rush is going to be key for the Packers. How will Peppers, Matthews do together? Peppers is playing LOLB for the first time in his life. He'll probably do fine on 3rd downs and long yardage but I see a square peg in a round hole there (Kampman redux). The Packers have Hawk in the middle who can tackle. He's big and not fast or smart, but when he hits the guys don't usually break through. He'll do much better against Lynch then he would McCoy or Charles. Brad Jones isn't anything special.
So you have to think Lynch is going to go for like 20-105 and 1 or 2 catches or something like that and probably a score. Put that alone isn't going to be enough to beat the Packers. You are going to need to score probably 25 at least. The over/under and spread on this game equate to about a Vegas prediction of Seahawks winning 26 - 19 which I think sells the Packers short.
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werdnoynek
Footballguy
I'm a huge Wilson fan. Got him in both redraft leagues I play in. I'll let him throw for 2 and run for 1 Thursday. So long as the Packers score more.
ImTheScientist
Footballguy
How can you say that when the hawks shut the most prolific offense in the history of the nfl down in the Super Bowl last year?
Sabertooth
Footballguy
I doubt the ball gets snapped over Rodgers' head on the first snap. And the Broncos don't have anything close to Lacy. If you look at the box score, the Seahawks outgained the Broncos by a mere 35 yards.
CapnJB
Footballguy
That's not what Seattle does. They shut down the big play. Peyton Manning, who I assume we could put in the same tier as Rodgers, completed 34 passes in the Super Bowl. And got completely destroyed. His longest pass was 23 yards... and that one got punched out and recovered by Seattle. He averaged 5.7 YPA. No big plays.
No offense but Manning is no Rodgers. At this point in their careers Cutler even has a better arm than Manning. In order to routinely beat the Seahawks pass defense you have have a lightning quick release while threading the needle into tight windows 20-30 yards down the field. Rodgers is by far the best in the NFL at that right now. Brady/Manning rely much more on the mental side of the game. I was not surprised at all they won the Super Bowl so easily. I had a lot of money riding on Seattle and just started laughing in the first quarter when Manning couldn't make the throws downfield.
This game is going to be close, but the Packers have exactly the kind of team that counters the Seahawks: a strong running game, respectable defense (with everyone back healthy) and an elite throwing QB.
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sho nuff
Footballguy
Pretty decent on some of this.
But, Hawk is actually smart.
Big thing for Packers D is always to limit the big plays. And hope they have figured out a way to defend the middle of the field. Something they have been dreadful doing for a while now.
ImTheScientist
Footballguy
ImTheScientist
Footballguy
I thought the redskin fans two years ago were delusional but packer fans have taken things to another level.
MaxThreshold
Footballguy
You serious with this ####? You've been on these boards FOREVER spouting your nonsense about the Seahawks and they've won exactly ONE Superbowl. If anyone is delusional, it's you.
I'm not saying the Seahawks aren't a good team. I just find it to be the height of irony that YOU are calling others delusional.
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Ghost Rider
Footballguy
BFD. As a Broncos fan, them piling up a lot of garbage yards in the 2nd half doesn't make me feel any better.
Exactly. Plus, you have to be able to move around in the pocket and sometimes get outside and make plays, which Peyton doesn't do. Rodgers is much better equipped to do this. I think Seattle will win the game, but Rodgers has been the best QB in the league for years now and will find a way to make some plays (but not enough to win, thanks to GB's defense).
MaxThreshold
Footballguy
Don't waste your time with him. He disappeared for about 6 months like a baby after the Seahawks got bounced in the playoffs in 2012 after spouting off the whole season. He wouldn't man-up then, so I wouldn't expect him to man-up if they lost next week.
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Ghost Rider
Footballguy
Exactly. I think most people who have been around here enough know to gloss over his posts and just laugh.
CapnJB
Footballguy
To be fair, despite his in your face, blatant homerism, he's called a lot more shots than he's missed. He was all over Russell Wilson before most people were aware of Russell Wilson... and that was before the Seahawks drafted him. Everyone was jocking RG3 and dismissing Wilson... except that guy. He may grate your nerves, but he knows his team.
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ImTheScientist
Footballguy
CapnJB
Footballguy
seahawk 17
Footballguy
Sabertooth
Footballguy
Suspension looming perhaps?
sho nuff
Footballguy
Seems more of "starting being in your face homer" at the right time more so than knowing something special.
He also pimped Flynn before Wilson was drafted.
sho nuff
Footballguy
Maybe a depth guy more so than for the top line guys.I think that there maybe a CB depth issue that Seattle fans are unaware of.
Indianapolis Colts ✔ @Colts Follow
Colts also trade DB Marcus Burley to Seattle Seahawks for a 6th rd pick in 2015
If there is an issue with the secondary, you don't want to be playing against Rodgers.
Slim_Shady
Footballguy
Benching Rodgers and starting Cutler in week 1. This will be GB worst offensive performance of the season. Seattle defense made Manning look awful last year. They will be fired up week one at home. I hate benching Rodgers but just don't see any upside week one.
