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Does it matter? If a 6'4" behemoth, who just assaulted you (and this fact is not in dispute - everyone agrees that there was an altercation in the vehicle) does not heed your commands to freeze, and walks towards you with your gun drawn... Wtf do you expect the cop to do? Seriously - people have lost their ####### minds here.
Go with 'independent' and disassociate yourself with these two cults. You will feel better.
You are barking at the wrong guy here. I agree that he was coming at Wilson but the physical evidence doesn't conclude that he was running or not. The eye witness testimony is what does. I expected the cop to do exactly what he did in this case and that is kill a guy coming at him.
Laughable - the only thought that came to mind was way back in the day references to white devil or black devil. Definitely a stretch.
Along with eyewitness testimony from an ottoman and a fork that fell on the floor. Congrats, you won't be charged!
Surprised you're willing to tell your story so quickly. Sure you don't need a couple of months?
But the grand jury wouldn't believe the testimony of an ottoman. Turkish racism.
If the prosecutor had decided never to even bring this to a grand jury, would your have been okay with that outcome? (Not arguing, just trying to get a feel for where you're coming from).
You don't see the smashed windshield? Its pretty obvious the people around his car weren't just sipping coffee having a nice chat. This reminds me of the NYC West Side Hway incident where a bunch of bikers started pounding on this guys car. He ended up running one of the bikers over, paralyzing him. Its easy to see why someone would panic and punch their car into gear in that situation as you have no idea whether the people smashing in your window are going to pull you out of the car and kill you.
It is a great cover story for insurance fraud. Father needs new pews.
My wife says it happened differently, but her testimony is inconsistent with the physical evidence.
You answer your own question (why didn't he finish it right there?) with your second paragraph. He got shot and took off.
I said I would have been OK with that yesterday, assuming he gave a clear and detailed explanation as to why he decided not to to do so.. That's the role of the prosecutor at that stage of the proceedings. It's not the role of the prosecutor once the grand jury proceeding begins. Doing it this way left the impression that the fix was in.
I feel the same and am also very liberal. I haven't followed this nearly as closely as you have but can't wrap my head around what is going on here. Keep assuming there are aspects to this story I am missing or am reading some ultra conservative blog of what happened.
Driver absolutely panicked and was probably terrified. Every person on the planet should be afraid for their life after an angry rioting group of crazy people swarm their car. Rational people don't behave that way.
Whether he was reaching into his pant or not, that would not preclude the shooting of Brown being self defense. You always bring up these hypotheticals as a means to justify your confusion. In each case, while the actions of Brown and Wilson may not make sense, they happened. Either they didn't make sense for Brown to go back toward Wilson (even though physical evidence appears to support this) or they didn't make sense for Wilson to shoot Brown in cold blood. At the end of the day, events occured which wouldn't have occured if people acted rationally. Things happen which do not make sense.
I'm with you all the way. I do think our policing has gotten needlessly aggressive and intrusive and militarized but the defense of brown seems brown seems like right church wrong pew.
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Can anyone pull up the autopsy ofMike Brown and see what they say about his hands? Did HE have bruising?
Well, when he started struggling with me, I turned to face him to defend myself, and he punched me and his right hand hit me on the right side of my face....any other questions?
It's like the magic bullet except with his hand
I've said this a bunch of times and I'll say it again: the protests and anger aren't based on the facts of the case as we know them. They're based on the many, many failures of law enforcement and the local government after the incident, which gave the community good reason to doubt the facts of the case as we know them (since they're being presented by law enforcement and the local government) and to respond with anger.
So if he is facing the window it is not possible to be punched on the right side of his face with the combatants right hand?
I know, it's crazy isn't it? I keep thinking the same thing, that there is something I must be missing here... That's the scary part of this. This case seems to have exposed something very unseemly that has been festering within the minority community the last 10 years or so. Don't get me wrong, there are legitimate issues of policing, especially when it comes to minorities, that absolutely need to be addressed. But this isn't the case to do it with. It's just that simple. I'm sure there are plenty of better examples out there for the Left to use in highlighting the legitimate issues that need to be addressed. But what's sad is the number of people in this country that now have such skewed views of accountability and entitlement. Maybe it's a natural side effect of the Obama years. I don know. By it sure is interesting.
when i said swarm thats what i meant...they attacked the car...im not saying they didnt
Again..Are you saying if a person is facing their side window they cannot be punched on the right side of center, the right cheek by someone right hand.
I'm pretty sure this answer in a grand jury is going to get you indicted. You're better off with "I don't know. Let's get to the part where I blindly fired my weapon without looking."
No, I'm saying that in explaining his body position at the time it happened, he's going to have to tell a more complex story than the one that he rehearsed for the grand jury. Which is why questioning gets in depth like that.
i dont think anyone is actually supporting brown as much as asking how can you justify shooting an unarmed person 6 times from a distance and it doesnt go to trial
Not sure how hard Brown could have hit Wilson considering he was either punching through the open window or, leaning into the car throwing punches. He had the elevation, but the leverage would have been weak.
