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WR Julio Jones, Retired (1 Viewer)

Faust said:
Dirk Koetter appreciates Julio Jones' no-nonsense approach:

http://espn.go.com/blog/atlanta-falcons/post/_/id/10491/dirk-koetter-appreciates-julio-jones-no-nonsense-approach
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i'd appreciate it if koetter would give julio end zone looks if goal to go and he is one on one pre-snap.... instead of having him set picks for hester or douglass

this game monday night worries me, packers could easily make this game a laugher by qtr 2.... and i dont think ATL's line is going to be able to deal with GB's pressure.... then you consider how mediocre ryan's production has been in his career outdoors... ugh

 
Adam Harstad said:
Adam Harstad said:
Julio Jones has 67/912/3 through 10 games. I wanted to put that into some sort of context, so I searched for every player since 1978 (i.e. "the 16-game era") who, through 10 games, (a) had at least 800 receiving yards, and (b) had at least 300 yards for every touchdown. I then excluded anyone who got injured in the final six games of the season. This left me with 8 names who, collectively, averaged 65/950/2.6 through 10 games- strikingly similar to Jones' own numbers to this point.
Over the final 6 games of the season, those 8 players averaged 37.1 receptions, 506 yards, and 3.4 touchdowns. If Julio matches that production the rest of the way, he'll finish with 104/1418/6.4 receiving. Not a shabby season by any stretch of the imagination. That would have been good for an 8th-place fantasy finish last year, just ahead of Alshon Jeffery. Which isn't really that surprising, given that Julio Jones has already been the #9 fantasy receiver so far this year in PPR leagues, (technically he ranks 10th, but Benjamin is just fractions of a point ahead of him and has played in one more game).

How does that finish compare to, say, a Brandon Marshall-type? Marshall has just 586 yards through 10 games, but he has a whopping 8 touchdowns. To find comparable players, I searched for guys since 1978 who, through 10 games, had at least 500 receiving yards and 8 receiving touchdowns, but were averaging 75 yards or fewer per touchdown scored. Once again, I trimmed everyone who missed time in the final six games. The list was also dominated by tight ends, so I removed them to get a better apples-to-apples comparison.

That left me with 9 names. These 9 players averaged 52/741/11.3 over the first 10 games of the season. Basically, they lagged behind the Julio comps in receptions and yards, but absolutely dominated them in touchdowns scored (nearly 9 more touchdowns per player). How did this group of players do over the final 6 games of the season? Well, they averaged 27/394/3.6 receiving the rest of the way.

Let's highlight that one more time just for emphasis. The "touchdown heavy" receivers outscored the "yardage heavy" receivers with 11.3 touchdowns vs. 2.6 touchdowns over the first 10 games of the season, but over the final six games of the season both groups scored a nearly identical number of touchdowns (3.4 vs. 3.6). Over the first 10 games of the season, the "touchdown-heavy" comps averaged 193.9 fantasy points in PPR and the "yardage-heavy" comps averaged 175.6 fantasy points in PPR- an 18 point advantage for the touchdown guys. Over the final 6 games of the season, the "touchdown-heavy" comps averaged 88.0 fantasy points and the "yardage-heavy" comps averaged 107.9 fantasy points- a 20 point advantage for the yardage guys. And I didn't even mention the fact that the only reason the TD-heavy group even did as well as they did is because their ranks included 2007 Randy Moss and 1984 Mark Clayton, both of whom set the NFL receiving TD record while playing for a QB who was busy setting the NFL passing TD record.

In other words- oh hey, it turns out that "regression to the mean" is a real thing after all! Who knew? It sucks that Julio Jones hasn't scored many TDs so far, but we shouldn't take that as evidence that he's likely to continue struggling to score TDs going forward.
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At the time of this post:

Brandon Marshall- 8 touchdowns

Julio Jones- 3 touchdowns

Since this post:

Brandon Marshall- 0 touchdowns

Julio Jones- 2 touchdowns and counting

#RegressionIsReal #TouchdownsFollowYards
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It's not fair to keep picking on Marshall since he's hurt, though clearly he was regressing before he got hurt. But Julio's now up to a TD in three straight games.

Regression. It's real. Really, really, really real. Really.

 
I mean, at this point, why are two guys not just draped over him at the line of scrimmage, like the gunners on a punt team? This is ludicrous.

 
And now a hip injury...oh well, it was fun while it lasted. Won me a hundred bucks tonight and advanced me in the playoffs.

 
Crap, he's not returning. Can only hope he can go Sunday. All 3 of my studs put up numbers aand get hurt ( cu Anderson, chArles, julio)

 
ROYALWITCHEESE said:
He wanted to go in. Trainers said no. I'm guessing he's okay, but he took a lot of punishment tonight.
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Anytime a player can't return to the game, it's significant and next week is in doubt. If he's out Harry Douglass becomes a sneaky play... hoping it doesn't come to that

 
iamkoza said:
ROYALWITCHEESE said:
He wanted to go in. Trainers said no. I'm guessing he's okay, but he took a lot of punishment tonight.
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Anytime a player can't return to the game, it's significant and next week is in doubt. If he's out Harry Douglass becomes a sneaky play... hoping it doesn't come to that
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Can't is a strong word. Sideline reporter said he's was going back in, but they told him no. Sounds like being cautious to me with so much left to play for and the current game being a long shot.

 
Sounds like we have no idea what is going on. But I know it's a huge concern if a guy doesnt go back into the game. Whether he could or not, doesnt matter to me. He didn't. It is significant.

He may very well be fine for next week, he might not. Thats the point. Who knows. Hence, concern. Much concern

 
ROYALWITCHEESE said:
iamkoza said:
ROYALWITCHEESE said:
He wanted to go in. Trainers said no. I'm guessing he's okay, but he took a lot of punishment tonight.
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Anytime a player can't return to the game, it's significant and next week is in doubt. If he's out Harry Douglass becomes a sneaky play... hoping it doesn't come to that
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Can't is a strong word. Sideline reporter said he's was going back in, but they told him no. Sounds like being cautious to me with so much left to play for and the current game being a long shot.
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the game was far from decided. and julio figured to be a very important player if they were to come back.

 
He kept me in contention and I only needed 4 more points after going toe to toe with the Jordy/Crosby owner all night. Firmly believe them holding him out was more precautionary than injury related. They are still a playoff contender.

 
Word is that he was seen limping around the sideline and didn't want to talk about the injury. As a Steelers fan I hope he misses next week, but as a Julio owner I hope he plays...

 
He got an owner in my league to within two points of victory. That had to be excruciating watching him get that close only to come up injured and not finish the game.

 
I think he made it move? The injury didn't look serious. As Dr Gene would say, the mechanasim of the injury didn't look like the hip/leg was planted when he took the hit, he didn't go to the locker room, and it looks like he could've gone back in the game. But then again, I have no idea.

 
We will find out soon enough. Pittsburgh's defense is so bad you could probably plug in Douglas and get good numbers if you're desperate

 
White Lightning said:
I think he made it move? The injury didn't look serious. As Dr Gene would say, the mechanasim of the injury didn't look like the hip/leg was planted when he took the hit, he didn't go to the locker room, and it looks like he could've gone back in the game. But then again, I have no idea.
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So because you have heard what a doctor said once makes you know what a doctor would say on a totally unrelated injury?

 
Team Julio was a one man wrecking crew. Took me down off my #1 seed high perch going into last night with a 40 point lead and playing Packers defense :o

It's all good though, still nabbed my playoff spot. :)

Julio owners be like :tebow:

 
cvnpoka said:
ROYALWITCHEESE said:
iamkoza said:
ROYALWITCHEESE said:
He wanted to go in. Trainers said no. I'm guessing he's okay, but he took a lot of punishment tonight.
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Anytime a player can't return to the game, it's significant and next week is in doubt. If he's out Harry Douglass becomes a sneaky play... hoping it doesn't come to that
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Can't is a strong word. Sideline reporter said he's was going back in, but they told him no. Sounds like being cautious to me with so much left to play for and the current game being a long shot.
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the game was far from decided. and julio figured to be a very important player if they were to come back.
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Please. 16 point game with about 6 to go. No sign of stopping Rodgers all day? Game was over.

That being said, I've reviewed the play where he got hurt and it's very hard to tell. I've narrowed it to either 1) hip flexor strain when he tried to pull out of the leg tackle, 2) labrum issue from when he landed on his left knee while the defender held his right ankle. With either he could potentially play, but obviously a labrum issue could be worse. Marshall has famously played through that, and then had surgery in the offseason. Harvin missed lots of time with it.

I'm not positive it's either, but with my background in sports med and PT, those look to be very possible based on the play in question.

 
ROYALWITCHEESE said:
cvnpoka said:
ROYALWITCHEESE said:
iamkoza said:
ROYALWITCHEESE said:
He wanted to go in. Trainers said no. I'm guessing he's okay, but he took a lot of punishment tonight.
Click to expand...
Anytime a player can't return to the game, it's significant and next week is in doubt. If he's out Harry Douglass becomes a sneaky play... hoping it doesn't come to that
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Can't is a strong word. Sideline reporter said he's was going back in, but they told him no. Sounds like being cautious to me with so much left to play for and the current game being a long shot.
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the game was far from decided. and julio figured to be a very important player if they were to come back.
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Please. 16 point game with about 6 to go. No sign of stopping Rodgers all day? Game was over.

That being said, I've reviewed the play where he got hurt and it's very hard to tell. I've narrowed it to either 1) hip flexor strain when he tried to pull out of the leg tackle, 2) labrum issue from when he landed on his left knee while the defender held his right ankle. With either he could potentially play, but obviously a labrum issue could be worse. Marshall has famously played through that, and then had surgery in the offseason. Harvin missed lots of time with it.

I'm not positive it's either, but with my background in sports med and PT, those look to be very possible based on the play in question.
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I was speculating hip flexor too based on watching Julio on the sideline. He appeared to be grabbing at that area of his body. I'm not a doctor.......But I did stay at a Holiday Inn last night.

 
ROYALWITCHEESE said:
cvnpoka said:
ROYALWITCHEESE said:
iamkoza said:
ROYALWITCHEESE said:
He wanted to go in. Trainers said no. I'm guessing he's okay, but he took a lot of punishment tonight.
Click to expand...
Anytime a player can't return to the game, it's significant and next week is in doubt. If he's out Harry Douglass becomes a sneaky play... hoping it doesn't come to that
Click to expand...
Can't is a strong word. Sideline reporter said he's was going back in, but they told him no. Sounds like being cautious to me with so much left to play for and the current game being a long shot.
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the game was far from decided. and julio figured to be a very important player if they were to come back.
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Please. 16 point game with about 6 to go. No sign of stopping Rodgers all day? Game was over.

That being said, I've reviewed the play where he got hurt and it's very hard to tell. I've narrowed it to either 1) hip flexor strain when he tried to pull out of the leg tackle, 2) labrum issue from when he landed on his left knee while the defender held his right ankle. With either he could potentially play, but obviously a labrum issue could be worse. Marshall has famously played through that, and then had surgery in the offseason. Harvin missed lots of time with it.

I'm not positive it's either, but with my background in sports med and PT, those look to be very possible based on the play in question.
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:lmao:

 
if you watch him before he caught his TD... He was already grabbing at that same hip after plays... I didn't rewatch the game yet to verify this or how much earlier he started grabbing at it, but I remember telling my wife that I thought he might be in some pain and then he caught the TD anyway... maybe my memory deceives me though, I am getting old.

 
Raiderfan32904 said:
Team Julio was a one man wrecking crew. Took me down off my #1 seed high perch going into last night with a 40 point lead and playing Packers defense :o

It's all good though, still nabbed my playoff spot. :)

Julio owners be like :tebow:
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Single-handedly kept me alive on a week Peyton, DT, Ingram, Shoelace, Reed, and Cody Parkey all grossly underperformed.

Hearts. :wub:

 
Soooooooooooooooooooo.....any news on Julio? Homers? Anything? A Rumor? An undisclosed source? The locker room attendant? :o

 
Rubi said:
Soooooooooooooooooooo.....any news on Julio? Homers? Anything? A Rumor? An undisclosed source? The locker room attendant? :o
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Not sure it even matters. I will check back sunday. Not much can be done anyway. Cant trade and nobody to pick up.

 
Rotoworld:

Julio Jones said he doesn't know the extent of his hip injury yet.

Jones left Monday night's loss at Green Bay midway through the fourth quarter. "I don't know yet. I haven't did no MRIs or anything like that, so we don't know yet," he said in the locker room afterward. Before leaving, Jones turned in one of the best performances by a wideout this season, going 11-259-1 on 17 targets. The Falcons host the Steelers' atrocious pass defense in Week 15 and Harry Douglas is suddenly a priority add.

Related: Harry Douglas

Source: ESPN.com
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Faust said:
Rotoworld:

Julio Jones said he doesn't know the extent of his hip injury yet.

Jones left Monday night's loss at Green Bay midway through the fourth quarter. "I don't know yet. I haven't did no MRIs or anything like that, so we don't know yet," he said in the locker room afterward. Before leaving, Jones turned in one of the best performances by a wideout this season, going 11-259-1 on 17 targets. The Falcons host the Steelers' atrocious pass defense in Week 15 and Harry Douglas is suddenly a priority add.

Related: Harry Douglas

Source: ESPN.com

Dec 9 - 8:25 AM
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"I haven't did no MRI." Wow!

I think the NFL needs to shift its focus from Play 60 to Grammar 101.

 
chad in Indy said:
Faust said:
Rotoworld:

Julio Jones said he doesn't know the extent of his hip injury yet.

Jones left Monday night's loss at Green Bay midway through the fourth quarter. "I don't know yet. I haven't did no MRIs or anything like that, so we don't know yet," he said in the locker room afterward. Before leaving, Jones turned in one of the best performances by a wideout this season, going 11-259-1 on 17 targets. The Falcons host the Steelers' atrocious pass defense in Week 15 and Harry Douglas is suddenly a priority add.

Related: Harry Douglas

Source: ESPN.com

Dec 9 - 8:25 AM
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"I haven't did no MRI." Wow!

I think the NFL needs to shift its focus from Play 60 to Grammar 101.
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if he keeps playing like he did last night he can talk anyway he damn way pleases

 
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