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Sitting your entire team during superbowl, bad taste? (1 Viewer)

I can't understand why anyone would care.

The fact that people do care is why they're doing it. They're LOLing at the irrationality of others. "For the lulz" is a perfectly good rationale, it seems.

The easy solution here is to shrug your shoulders.
So having no FF SB champion is ok with you? I don't care about their league but if this was to happen in mine I would show it as a sign of disrespect to the rest of the league and I would not appreciate it and not welcome those owners back. It cheapens the whole year. "For the lulz" is a perfectly good rationale? Really?
There will be a champ. Whoever has the QB that plays better this week. They obviously decided they were both okay with that.. it's their prerogative. Like I said before.. don't like it? Beat them. The rest is just a bunch of bitter whining and being far too emotionally invested in football dungeons and dragons

 
Sounds like a couple of complete idiots. I would never be in a league with assclowns like that. They obviously have some serious brain malfunction going on. What's the difference between both starting complete lineups and both just starting a QB. The QBs score points. The one with the highest QB score wins. Couple of morons is what these two seem to be.
if it is all the same then what makes them morons?
Because that's what morons would do.
that doesn't explain it at all. if it's the same either way then it's not moronic. and it's not thread worthy. if it's moronic then there is a difference btwn starting a full lineup and QBs. I don't see how it matters one way or another. they are chopping the pot either way and it doesn't effect the rest of the league.

integrity of the league? this is a stupid hobby, guys. no one is getting screwed and it's funny if only for the responses to it.
Everyone plays the whole year for this weekend. Then these owners make a mockery of it. Shows disrespect IMO.

have to think of the rest of your league and how they feel.
LMMFAO. This has to be satire.
I sure hope so... :unsure:

 
you also have to think of the rest of your league and how they feel.
I felt bad when my team was eliminated. I don't care who the championship teams start if I don't have a stake in it. what's the point of caring about this?
To be honest, I might care more if the teams in the championship did something like this. This is especially true if both QBs were playing at the same time. I'd probably be watching and doing some heckling.

 
I can't understand why anyone would care.

The fact that people do care is why they're doing it. They're LOLing at the irrationality of others. "For the lulz" is a perfectly good rationale, it seems.

The easy solution here is to shrug your shoulders.
So having no FF SB champion is ok with you? I don't care about their league but if this was to happen in mine I would show it as a sign of disrespect to the rest of the league and I would not appreciate it and not welcome those owners back. It cheapens the whole year. "For the lulz" is a perfectly good rationale? Really?
There will be a champ. Whoever has the QB that plays better this week. They obviously decided they were both okay with that.. it's their prerogative. Like I said before.. don't like it? Beat them. The rest is just a bunch of bitter whining and being far too emotionally invested in football dungeons and dragons
I don't care how dungeouns and dragons it is. I know 12 people in my league invested their time and money to this hobby.

I understand if there is a league full of people who have the same mindset as you. I'm just coming from the angle of the league I'm in. And I'm fairly certain people would question why, at the very last game of the year, when there is no reason not to play a full lineup and get closure on the league, they would just "lulz!" and forget it. Makes no sense to me.

 
I can't understand why anyone would care.

The fact that people do care is why they're doing it. They're LOLing at the irrationality of others. "For the lulz" is a perfectly good rationale, it seems.

The easy solution here is to shrug your shoulders.
So having no FF SB champion is ok with you? I don't care about their league but if this was to happen in mine I would show it as a sign of disrespect to the rest of the league and I would not appreciate it and not welcome those owners back. It cheapens the whole year. "For the lulz" is a perfectly good rationale? Really?
There will be a champ. Whoever has the QB that plays better this week. They obviously decided they were both okay with that.. it's their prerogative. Like I said before.. don't like it? Beat them. The rest is just a bunch of bitter whining and being far too emotionally invested in football dungeons and dragons
I don't care how dungeouns and dragons it is. I know 12 people in my league invested their time and money to this hobby.

I understand if there is a league full of people who have the same mindset as you. I'm just coming from the angle of the league I'm in. And I'm fairly certain people would question why, at the very last game of the year, when there is no reason not to play a full lineup and get closure on the league, they would just "lulz!" and forget it. Makes no sense to me.
Ignoring the stupidity that you believe you have "my mindset" pegged, I will agree that I think it's pretty silly. I personally wouldn't do it and if someone proposed it to me I'd probably laugh them out of the room. But if the two guys that won the championship wanted to do it, they've earned the right. And like the guy above me said, it'd actually be quite interesting to watch, especially if there was some action on it.

I'd have been more likely to do it for all the marbles than chop the pot and do it, because there's not much really to root for at that point, but it'd still be interesting nonetheless.

That being said, I just won my league championship against one of my best friends and at no point did anyone propose anything like that. Doesn't mean it would be anyone else's business if he and I had decided to do that.

The real moral of the story here is to be better at FF so that you don't end up watching two "jokers" play in your championship game.

 
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The "its their business" viewpoint is narrow-minded. No its the leagues business. I don't care if they split the pot but they must play the game. This wouldn't fly in any of my leagues. Why not just end the season after week 15 and call them co-champs. Stupid.

 
If they are chopping the pot anyways I don't understand why they are sitting everybody. I agree it deals with the integrity of the league. Put in your rules a fine for not starting a complete line up next year. Not much you can do about it this year except maybe hold a league vote as to whether the owners are welcome back or not.
Exactly.

I have zero issues with them chopping the pot. I find it odd you just won't distribute it that way for them. But where it gets weird is them sitting guys. Why? Play for bragging rights.

 
I can't understand why anyone would care.

The fact that people do care is why they're doing it. They're LOLing at the irrationality of others. "For the lulz" is a perfectly good rationale, it seems.

The easy solution here is to shrug your shoulders.
So having no FF SB champion is ok with you? I don't care about their league but if this was to happen in mine I would show it as a sign of disrespect to the rest of the league and I would not appreciate it and not welcome those owners back. It cheapens the whole year. "For the lulz" is a perfectly good rationale? Really?
If they're that contrarian that they have to prove a point about the basic tenets of competition and such for LOLZ, I wouldn't let them back either. There's a weird "eff you" element to this. I think inherited wisdom and sportsmanship trump logic in this case, because it leads one to wonder not only about their past dealings, but their future ones. "Yeah, we sat everybody but the quarterback and chopped the pot." Great, now please leave the league that I commish.

I see why logically it's nobody's business today. Other than today, not so much.

 
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I can't understand why anyone would care.

The fact that people do care is why they're doing it. They're LOLing at the irrationality of others. "For the lulz" is a perfectly good rationale, it seems.

The easy solution here is to shrug your shoulders.
So having no FF SB champion is ok with you? I don't care about their league but if this was to happen in mine I would show it as a sign of disrespect to the rest of the league and I would not appreciate it and not welcome those owners back. It cheapens the whole year. "For the lulz" is a perfectly good rationale? Really?
There will be a champ. Whoever has the QB that plays better this week. They obviously decided they were both okay with that.. it's their prerogative. Like I said before.. don't like it? Beat them. The rest is just a bunch of bitter whining and being far too emotionally invested in football dungeons and dragons
I don't care how dungeouns and dragons it is. I know 12 people in my league invested their time and money to this hobby.

I understand if there is a league full of people who have the same mindset as you. I'm just coming from the angle of the league I'm in. And I'm fairly certain people would question why, at the very last game of the year, when there is no reason not to play a full lineup and get closure on the league, they would just "lulz!" and forget it. Makes no sense to me.
Ignoring the stupidity that you believe you have "my mindset" pegged, I will agree that I think it's pretty silly. I personally wouldn't do it and if someone proposed it to me I'd probably laugh them out of the room. But if the two guys that won the championship wanted to do it, they've earned the right. And like the guy above me said, it'd actually be quite interesting to watch, especially if there was some action on it.

I'd have been more likely to do it for all the marbles than chop the pot and do it, because there's not much really to root for at that point, but it'd still be interesting nonetheless.

That being said, I just won my league championship against one of my best friends and at no point did anyone propose anything like that. Doesn't mean it would be anyone else's business if he and I had decided to do that.

The real moral of the story here is to be better at FF so that you don't end up watching two "jokers" play in your championship game.
When I said "mindset" it wasn't mean to be an insult. You clearly have no problem with this scenario and thus that is what I take as your mindset for this situation.

If you have a league of folks who also believe the same, then fine. There is nothing wrong with doing what these 2 teams did. But if you have a league of teams who don't also share the same mindset, then it's not fine.

BTW, I have no problem splitting the pot.

 
I can't understand why anyone would care.

The fact that people do care is why they're doing it. They're LOLing at the irrationality of others. "For the lulz" is a perfectly good rationale, it seems.

The easy solution here is to shrug your shoulders.
So having no FF SB champion is ok with you? I don't care about their league but if this was to happen in mine I would show it as a sign of disrespect to the rest of the league and I would not appreciate it and not welcome those owners back. It cheapens the whole year. "For the lulz" is a perfectly good rationale? Really?
There will be a champ. Whoever has the QB that plays better this week. They obviously decided they were both okay with that.. it's their prerogative. Like I said before.. don't like it? Beat them. The rest is just a bunch of bitter whining and being far too emotionally invested in football dungeons and dragons
I don't care how dungeouns and dragons it is. I know 12 people in my league invested their time and money to this hobby.

I understand if there is a league full of people who have the same mindset as you. I'm just coming from the angle of the league I'm in. And I'm fairly certain people would question why, at the very last game of the year, when there is no reason not to play a full lineup and get closure on the league, they would just "lulz!" and forget it. Makes no sense to me.
Ignoring the stupidity that you believe you have "my mindset" pegged, I will agree that I think it's pretty silly. I personally wouldn't do it and if someone proposed it to me I'd probably laugh them out of the room. But if the two guys that won the championship wanted to do it, they've earned the right. And like the guy above me said, it'd actually be quite interesting to watch, especially if there was some action on it.

I'd have been more likely to do it for all the marbles than chop the pot and do it, because there's not much really to root for at that point, but it'd still be interesting nonetheless.

That being said, I just won my league championship against one of my best friends and at no point did anyone propose anything like that. Doesn't mean it would be anyone else's business if he and I had decided to do that.

The real moral of the story here is to be better at FF so that you don't end up watching two "jokers" play in your championship game.
When I said "mindset" it wasn't mean to be an insult. You clearly have no problem with this scenario and thus that is what I take as your mindset for this situation.

If you have a league of folks who also believe the same, then fine. There is nothing wrong with doing what these 2 teams did. But if you have a league of teams who don't also share the same mindset, then it's not fine.

BTW, I have no problem splitting the pot.
Gotcha, all good.

I think the general mindset of the long-time league I'm in with friends (who take it reasonably seriously) would just be "well, those two are idiots.. shrug". Nobody in our league would do it, and I do somewhat see the point of "I don't really want to be in a league with guys who would do that", because who knows, maybe they do something stupid down the road that actually does upset the balance of the league. But this particular incident is not one of those, it's nobody else's business, and on face value for today, it shouldn't matter to anyone. Whether or not they get invited back is another story. I probably would let them back if they played seriously and honestly throughout the season, but that'd be up to a league vote I suppose.

I have to wonder if there was a reason for it. Someone above mentioned that they did it to be contrarian. Based on the commish's original post, I can totally see it as the two of them doing it as an act of rebellion against a way too overzealous/serious group of people who have forgotten that they're playing a pretty pointless, silly game. Based on the commish's original post/attitude, it wouldn't surprise me nor would I totally disagree with them if that's what they did. Seems like they're the only two having fun in the league... which is what it's all about.

The "they're messing up the integrity of the league!!" viewpoint is an exercise in massively inflated self-importance. Nobody is watching you play FF. Nobody cares about your league. Tomorrow you'll go to work and it'll be the same as last Monday, snowflake. At least they'll have a good story from it, whereas the commish and the others will still be pissed off about the "integrity" of their dungeons and dragons football league that nobody cares about being compromised. Life's too short. A re-examination of priorities is in order, IMHO.

 
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I can't understand why anyone would care.

The fact that people do care is why they're doing it. They're LOLing at the irrationality of others. "For the lulz" is a perfectly good rationale, it seems.

The easy solution here is to shrug your shoulders.
So having no FF SB champion is ok with you? I don't care about their league but if this was to happen in mine I would show it as a sign of disrespect to the rest of the league and I would not appreciate it and not welcome those owners back. It cheapens the whole year. "For the lulz" is a perfectly good rationale? Really?
There will be a champ. Whoever has the QB that plays better this week. They obviously decided they were both okay with that.. it's their prerogative. Like I said before.. don't like it? Beat them. The rest is just a bunch of bitter whining and being far too emotionally invested in football dungeons and dragons
I don't care how dungeouns and dragons it is. I know 12 people in my league invested their time and money to this hobby.

I understand if there is a league full of people who have the same mindset as you. I'm just coming from the angle of the league I'm in. And I'm fairly certain people would question why, at the very last game of the year, when there is no reason not to play a full lineup and get closure on the league, they would just "lulz!" and forget it. Makes no sense to me.
Ignoring the stupidity that you believe you have "my mindset" pegged, I will agree that I think it's pretty silly. I personally wouldn't do it and if someone proposed it to me I'd probably laugh them out of the room. But if the two guys that won the championship wanted to do it, they've earned the right. And like the guy above me said, it'd actually be quite interesting to watch, especially if there was some action on it.

I'd have been more likely to do it for all the marbles than chop the pot and do it, because there's not much really to root for at that point, but it'd still be interesting nonetheless.

That being said, I just won my league championship against one of my best friends and at no point did anyone propose anything like that. Doesn't mean it would be anyone else's business if he and I had decided to do that.

The real moral of the story here is to be better at FF so that you don't end up watching two "jokers" play in your championship game.
When I said "mindset" it wasn't mean to be an insult. You clearly have no problem with this scenario and thus that is what I take as your mindset for this situation.

If you have a league of folks who also believe the same, then fine. There is nothing wrong with doing what these 2 teams did. But if you have a league of teams who don't also share the same mindset, then it's not fine.

BTW, I have no problem splitting the pot.
Gotcha, all good.

I think the general mindset of the long-time league I'm in with friends (who take it reasonably seriously) would just be "well, those two are idiots.. shrug". Nobody in our league would do it, and I do somewhat see the point of "I don't really want to be in a league with guys who would do that", because who knows, maybe they do something stupid down the road that actually does upset the balance of the league. But this particular incident is not one of those, it's nobody else's business, and on face value for today, it shouldn't matter to anyone. Whether or not they get invited back is another story. I probably would let them back if they played seriously and honestly throughout the season, but that'd be up to a league vote I suppose.

I have to wonder if there was a reason for it. Someone above mentioned that they did it to be contrarian. Based on the commish's original post, I can totally see it as the two of them doing it as an act of rebellion against a way too overzealous/serious group of people who have forgotten that they're playing a pretty pointless, silly game. Based on the commish's original post/attitude, it wouldn't surprise me nor would I totally disagree with them if that's what they did. Seems like they're the only two having fun in the league... which is what it's all about.

The "they're messing up the integrity of the league!!" viewpoint is an exercise is massively inflated self-importance. Nobody is watching you play FF. Nobody cares about your league. Tomorrow you'll go to work and it'll be the same as last Monday.
I totally agree that we only have one side of the story. I'm taking that as sort of a given, which it clearly may not be. It had crossed my mind, and is a good point. There are reasons why this might happen.

Then again, it does reinforce that maybe them and the league aren't a good fit for next year.

 
I can't understand why anyone would care.

The fact that people do care is why they're doing it. They're LOLing at the irrationality of others. "For the lulz" is a perfectly good rationale, it seems.

The easy solution here is to shrug your shoulders.
So having no FF SB champion is ok with you? I don't care about their league but if this was to happen in mine I would show it as a sign of disrespect to the rest of the league and I would not appreciate it and not welcome those owners back. It cheapens the whole year. "For the lulz" is a perfectly good rationale? Really?
The champ will be whichever QB scores the most points, it seems.

 
I can't understand why anyone would care.

The fact that people do care is why they're doing it. They're LOLing at the irrationality of others. "For the lulz" is a perfectly good rationale, it seems.

The easy solution here is to shrug your shoulders.
So having no FF SB champion is ok with you? I don't care about their league but if this was to happen in mine I would show it as a sign of disrespect to the rest of the league and I would not appreciate it and not welcome those owners back. It cheapens the whole year. "For the lulz" is a perfectly good rationale? Really?
The champ will be whichever QB scores the most points, it seems.
If that's in the league rules, then fine. I find in most leagues you have to submit a full lineup.

 
Then again, it does reinforce that maybe them and the league aren't a good fit for next year.
Definitely agree with you there. Seems like it's not a good cultural fit for those two guys, regardless of which "side" you're on.
Think of the horror in the league archives when people look back at the Quarterback Conspiracy of 2014! They will think back how two guys came in crushed everyone in the league and then made a mockery of the championship!

Might as well just trash the league because it will be too much for the other owners to take that this year ended this way.

:toilet:

 
BTW, who are the two quarterbacks?
Matt Ryan vs Tony Romo.

I can't understand why anyone would care.

The fact that people do care is why they're doing it. They're LOLing at the irrationality of others. "For the lulz" is a perfectly good rationale, it seems.

The easy solution here is to shrug your shoulders.
So having no FF SB champion is ok with you? I don't care about their league but if this was to happen in mine I would show it as a sign of disrespect to the rest of the league and I would not appreciate it and not welcome those owners back. It cheapens the whole year. "For the lulz" is a perfectly good rationale? Really?
The champ will be whichever QB scores the most points, it seems.
Yes, this is what they wanted.

I can't understand why anyone would care.

The fact that people do care is why they're doing it. They're LOLing at the irrationality of others. "For the lulz" is a perfectly good rationale, it seems.

The easy solution here is to shrug your shoulders.
So having no FF SB champion is ok with you? I don't care about their league but if this was to happen in mine I would show it as a sign of disrespect to the rest of the league and I would not appreciate it and not welcome those owners back. It cheapens the whole year. "For the lulz" is a perfectly good rationale? Really?
The champ will be whichever QB scores the most points, it seems.
If that's in the league rules, then fine. I find in most leagues you have to submit a full lineup.
I didn't even know it was possible to sit your entire lineup in ESPN settings. That is a glitch in the system. I clearly stated in the rules and reminded them when they signed up and during the season that they must start your entire lineup each week. They disobeyed the league rules after agreeing to them. I do this to avoid drama. Don't see the point in writing league rules when apparently it doesn't mean much.

Look, I get both sides of this. So you can stop saying I'm butt hurt. I already said I'm letting them chop it and it's standing as it is. You have to understand that I'm the league commissioner and I have to try and see both sides.

I understand the point of view of the people who play to win the game. I mean you play to win the game right? Setting lineups and winning first place are the entire reason for having fantasy football in the first place. There's very few things you have to actually do and setting the lineup is one of htem so when people say it makes no sense what these guys are doing then they have a point.

But I also understand that these guys wanted to play a QB matchup and since it only affects them then they shouldn't and won't be punished and it has no bearing on everyone else.

The reason I posted this is because I had very clear instructions to these two and they disobeyed me and started drama in the league which I told them I wanted to avoid. Regardless of whether or not they should be allowed to set their lineups, they should at least follow the rules of the league in which they signed up for.

They clearly didn't care about the rest of the league and did whatever they wanted and maybe some of you are right that it's up to them to decide... However, I always thought it was up to the commissioner to decide the rules and the people who signed up should respect and follow them.

Clearly I am wrong and just butt hurt because I didn't win since it's winners who decide the rules and not the commish.

 
Don't like it at all. Next year if they have a late season meeting and one team is fighting for the playoffs and one is out, I'd really wonder if the non-playoff guy is dumping the game. Why not? If willing to say screw you to a simple rule now, what makes anyone think they wouldn't later to help the other who may send over some thank you cash if they win more money.

This sort of thing to break a rule for no good reason just makes you wonder what rules willing to break in the future to help each other out.

 
Note to self: "chopping the pot" is apparently a saying.

I always said "split the pot" and always heard "split the pot" from other people as well.

 
Don't like it at all. Next year if they have a late season meeting and one team is fighting for the playoffs and one is out, I'd really wonder if the non-playoff guy is dumping the game. Why not? If willing to say screw you to a simple rule now, what makes anyone think they wouldn't later to help the other who may send over some thank you cash if they win more money.

This sort of thing to break a rule for no good reason just makes you wonder what rules willing to break in the future to help each other out.
That's where I am at with this. How long has the league been around and how long have these 2 been in it? If this is just an isolated case, big deal, chop your pot, no champion or highest scoring QB wins. I just wouldn't play in a league like that. Chopping, I'm ok with. The rest I'm not because it could get real ugly next year in the above scenario.

 
If they're that contrarian that they have to prove a point about the basic tenets of competition and such for LOLZ, I wouldn't let them back either. There's a weird "eff you" element to this. I think inherited wisdom and sportsmanship trump logic in this case, because it leads one to wonder not only about their past dealings, but their future ones. "Yeah, we sat everybody but the quarterback and chopped the pot." Great, now please leave the league that I commish.

I see why logically it's nobody's business today. Other than today, not so much.
Yep. This is the part that bugs me. The finalists are being difficult (and breaking the rules) just to be difficult. They could easily accomplish whatever rational goals they are trying to achieve by complying with the rules but they're giving the rest of the league (including the Commish) the finger.SMH at those in this thread who say its the rest of the league that has the problem rather than point to the two owners intentionally going against not only the league rules but also the spirit of competition just to be difficult.

 
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Some REALLY strange responses in here....

I don't take fantasy football seriously at all, but something like this would bug me. It wouldn't bug me to the extent that I'd throw a fit about it, but I'd probably find a different league next year if these guys were in it again.

- I think chopping the pot is weird, but I think that's mostly because I don't see FF as some sort of money-making enterprise. I'd be totally ok with 2 guys doing it, but its not something I'd do. I'd rather just let the game play out. If I lose, I lose. :shrug:

- I don't think what they're doing is at all funny (I guess they're just a couple of immature trolls who do things for "the lulz." Maybe they'll grow out of it some day).

- I do think what they're doing is really disrespectful to the other guys in the league. They earned their way to the finals and assuming the rules don't say otherwise, they're allowed to do what they want. But I do think its against the spirit of competition and kind of a "screw you" to the other guys in the league. FF is supposed to be friendly competition. Trolling 10 other guys just because your magic football players happened to do better than their magic football players is pretty silly.

How old are these guys? What do they do for a living? Are the members of the league friends or is it just a bunch of randoms.

 
You mean people actually pay attention to championship games they aren't in? I'm in my championship this week, (thank you ODB) but I wasn't last year. I honestly don't even know which of my friends were in the title game last year. And this league is made up of my closest friends. Once I'm eliminated, I couldn't care less if they decide it with an arm wrestling competition.

I will say this though, no effin' way I'd ever agree to split a pot. Don't care if on paper I'm an overwhelming underdog. I want the shot at bragging rights.

 
Fariq said:
Note to self: "chopping the pot" is apparently a saying.

I always said "split the pot" and always heard "split the pot" from other people as well.
It's a pretty common poker term.

 
TLEF316 said:
Some REALLY strange responses in here....

I don't take fantasy football seriously at all, but something like this would bug me. It wouldn't bug me to the extent that I'd throw a fit about it, but I'd probably find a different league next year if these guys were in it again.

- I think chopping the pot is weird, but I think that's mostly because I don't see FF as some sort of money-making enterprise. I'd be totally ok with 2 guys doing it, but its not something I'd do. I'd rather just let the game play out. If I lose, I lose. :shrug:

- I don't think what they're doing is at all funny (I guess they're just a couple of immature trolls who do things for "the lulz." Maybe they'll grow out of it some day).

- I do think what they're doing is really disrespectful to the other guys in the league. They earned their way to the finals and assuming the rules don't say otherwise, they're allowed to do what they want. But I do think its against the spirit of competition and kind of a "screw you" to the other guys in the league. FF is supposed to be friendly competition. Trolling 10 other guys just because your magic football players happened to do better than their magic football players is pretty silly.

How old are these guys? What do they do for a living? Are the members of the league friends or is it just a bunch of randoms.
I pretty much disagree with all of this.

It's their championship. Chopping winnings or doing a partial chop is a very common thing.

 
Mr Anonymous said:
You mean people actually pay attention to championship games they aren't in? I'm in my championship this week, (thank you ODB) but I wasn't last year. I honestly don't even know which of my friends were in the title game last year. And this league is made up of my closest friends. Once I'm eliminated, I couldn't care less if they decide it with an arm wrestling competition.

I will say this though, no effin' way I'd ever agree to split a pot. Don't care if on paper I'm an overwhelming underdog. I want the shot at bragging rights.
:confused:

You can split the pot and still play for bragging rights, trophy, right to be called winner, etc.

ETA: Also you can do a partial or a pro-rated chop.

 
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Fariq said:
Note to self: "chopping the pot" is apparently a saying.

I always said "split the pot" and always heard "split the pot" from other people as well.
It's a pretty common poker term.
Okay, thanks. That would explain why I never heard it. Do not play poker and don't watch it on tv.
 
Who ####ing cares? You seem like a tool box commish - grow up. Stop being a doosh
He (as commish) is just trying to ensure the league rules are enforced. Two owners are intentionally trying to bypass the rules just to be difficult. I fail to see how the commish is the doosh here.

Lots of people in here seem to be overlooking the fact that the OP said partial lineups are prohibited by league rules. We can debate the ethics/intent/severity/etc of what the two finalists are trying to do til the keys come apart. Doesn't change the fact that the rules say no partial lineups and those two are intentionally breaking the rule.

The problem here is twofold. First, the league configuration in ESPN does not match the "written" league rules. Second, the "written" rules don't specify a penalty if the rule is broken. After this (but before next) season, the Commish needs to go into the league settings and configure it so partial lineups are not allowed and illegal lineups score zero points for the week. This whole fiasco could be avoided had that been done. Of course, it could also have been avoided if the two finalists just respected the written rules, started a full lineup, split the winnings separately, and concluded whatever business they were up to with the QBs. It was that simple for those two owners yet they decided to make it a ####-show by going against the rules.

 
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Mr Anonymous said:
You mean people actually pay attention to championship games they aren't in? I'm in my championship this week, (thank you ODB) but I wasn't last year. I honestly don't even know which of my friends were in the title game last year. And this league is made up of my closest friends. Once I'm eliminated, I couldn't care less if they decide it with an arm wrestling competition.

I will say this though, no effin' way I'd ever agree to split a pot. Don't care if on paper I'm an overwhelming underdog. I want the shot at bragging rights.
:confused:

You can split the pot and still play for bragging rights, trophy, right to be called winner, etc.

ETA: Also you can do a partial or a pro-rated chop.
Of course, it just seems to me as though if the pot was split it would diminish whoever wound up scoring more since the big prize money wasn't at stake. I feel like if the pot was split that's all anyone would remember, they'd remember co-champions.

 
Cunk said:
Maurile Tremblay said:
I can't understand why anyone would care.

The fact that people do care is why they're doing it. They're LOLing at the irrationality of others. "For the lulz" is a perfectly good rationale, it seems.

The easy solution here is to shrug your shoulders.
So having no FF SB champion is ok with you? I don't care about their league but if this was to happen in mine I would show it as a sign of disrespect to the rest of the league and I would not appreciate it and not welcome those owners back. It cheapens the whole year. "For the lulz" is a perfectly good rationale? Really?
wouldn't there still be a FF SB champion based on which QB scores more though?

 
This is a respect issue. They clearly have no respect for themselves or others. You owe it to the people you play with in the league to finish the game honestly and try to win. If two douchbags in the championship game agree to spit the money evenly after it's all over, so be it, that is their business. They can take care of that in their own time. However, all the losers in here who say these guys not setting a lineup is none of your business, are probably losers in their own life and have no standards or respect for others just like the two disrespecting hacks in this championship game. They are clearly two peas in a pod that have probably had little success in their own lives and were probably never very good at sports or ever had a winning attitude. They were probably given participation soccer trophies and told they were winners after a 1-1 tie and then taken out for ice cream. They certainly never played a sport seriously and have probably never had a good coach or bothered reading or learning about any of the great coaches. Anyone who has ever participated in a sport and had a coach or dad worth anything was taught better than to be a disrespecting loser like these two and would never insult every other member in the league by throwing in the towel and not playing in the final game. This has nothing to do with fantasy football as much as it has to do about personal attitude and how you were raised. If you were raised with respect, you would play the game and finish, win or lose. I see this sort of behavior more and more in people as the culture becomes more and more feminized. If this sort of crap happened in my league, I would without a doubt be finding a new league next year and I would lose all respect for the two people involved.

 
tigerz said:
I'm league manager of a league where the two teams that made it to the superbowl (5th and 6th ranked teams) are sitting everyone but their QBs. I told them I would not chop the pot for them but technically I could not stop the winner from splitting his winnings with the runner up after I distribute the winnings. I told them they should play out the superbowl and let the chips fall where they may and it's in the league rules that you have to set your lineups every week and that there is no tanking.

I don't know what to do here, other people are complaining and what they are doing looks like collusion... How would you discipline them? Ban them next year, refund their entry fee, force their lineups and decide the winner from previous week starts, do nothing? I think my league's integrity is shot and I don't know if people will want to play again next year after this stunt...
Is it in the league rules that incomplete lineups are invalid and result in a forfeit?

If so both guys forfeited and the pot should be rolled into next year. Maybe give each guy free entry next year.

You said no tanking is allowed in the rules, I'm assuming no punishment was explicitly stated or there would be no need for this thread. I suggest making a specific penalty next year.

Did they both approach you about splitting the pot? If so that proves they are colluding. What are the league penalties for collusion?

 
Did they both approach you about splitting the pot? If so that proves they are colluding.
how is it colluding when the rest of the league is eliminated? who are they colluding against?
Collusion occurs when one team makes moves to benefit another team, without trying to improve its own position. Only one team is going to benefit from splitting the pot, the runner up.

 
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This is a respect issue. They clearly have no respect for themselves or others. You owe it to the people you play with in the league to finish the game honestly and try to win. If two douchbags in the championship game agree to spit the money evenly after it's all over, so be it, that is their business. They can take care of that in their own time. However, all the losers in here who say these guys not setting a lineup is none of your business, are probably losers in their own life and have no standards or respect for others just like the two disrespecting hacks in this championship game. They are clearly two peas in a pod that have probably had little success in their own lives and were probably never very good at sports or ever had a winning attitude. They were probably given participation soccer trophies and told they were winners after a 1-1 tie and then taken out for ice cream. They certainly never played a sport seriously and have probably never had a good coach or bothered reading or learning about any of the great coaches. Anyone who has ever participated in a sport and had a coach or dad worth anything was taught better than to be a disrespecting loser like these two and would never insult every other member in the league by throwing in the towel and not playing in the final game. This has nothing to do with fantasy football as much as it has to do about personal attitude and how you were raised. If you were raised with respect, you would play the game and finish, win or lose. I see this sort of behavior more and more in people as the culture becomes more and more feminized. If this sort of crap happened in my league, I would without a doubt be finding a new league next year and I would lose all respect for the two people involved.
:lmao:

 
Did they both approach you about splitting the pot? If so that proves they are colluding.
how is it colluding when the rest of the league is eliminated? who are they colluding against?
Collusion occurs when one team makes moves to benefit another team, without trying to improve its own position. Only one team is going to benefit from splitting the pot, the runner up.
I don't think you quite understand how gambling/betting/hedging works.

 
Did they both approach you about splitting the pot? If so that proves they are colluding.
how is it colluding when the rest of the league is eliminated? who are they colluding against?
Collusion occurs when one team makes moves to benefit another team, without trying to improve its own position. Only one team is going to benefit from splitting the pot, the runner up.
I don't think you quite understand how gambling/betting/hedging works.
They were hedging and they were colluding. The two are not mutually inclusive nor exclusive.

 
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Is it bad taste? I think it depends a lot on the circumstances. If it's one of these 1 in 20 "investment" leagues where strangers come together in a redraft league, simply for the sake of trying to win some scratch, then most Owners are tuned out and may not even be aware of it.

If the league is a close group of friends with a long history... well, honesty it probably doesn't happen.

 
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I am not philosophically opposed to chopping the pot, but when the pot is 33%/22%, it seems pretty silly to do it for such a small difference.

And starting just the QBs also seems silly.

But whatever.

 
Please don't mistake this for sour grapes... I don't care if they chop it. I told them I couldn't stop them, it's the appearance that has everyone in the league complaining to me. If they played their lineups and just chopped it afterwards it would be fine but now I got people pissed off who think those two colluded the entire time because they are friends who joined together.

I don't know, maybe I should just review their history of moves in the past like you said to see if there was collusion. And If people won't join the league if those two come back because they don't trust them then I won't invite them back...

Thanks.
so they colluded to make each other's team better and they are both in the super bowl.

Umm, what???

think about that for a minute

 
what kind of league full of ninnies gives half a #### what the two teams in the championship game do?

I would be out of that league and looking for a league without pansy whiners.

They want to chop, so be it. If you don't like it, make fun of them for it, and use it as a little ammo in the future to make fun of them.

To complain to the point of claiming collusion is just idiotic.

 
This is a respect issue. They clearly have no respect for themselves or others. You owe it to the people you play with in the league to finish the game honestly and try to win. If two douchbags in the championship game agree to spit the money evenly after it's all over, so be it, that is their business. They can take care of that in their own time. However, all the losers in here who say these guys not setting a lineup is none of your business, are probably losers in their own life and have no standards or respect for others just like the two disrespecting hacks in this championship game. They are clearly two peas in a pod that have probably had little success in their own lives and were probably never very good at sports or ever had a winning attitude. They were probably given participation soccer trophies and told they were winners after a 1-1 tie and then taken out for ice cream. They certainly never played a sport seriously and have probably never had a good coach or bothered reading or learning about any of the great coaches. Anyone who has ever participated in a sport and had a coach or dad worth anything was taught better than to be a disrespecting loser like these two and would never insult every other member in the league by throwing in the towel and not playing in the final game. This has nothing to do with fantasy football as much as it has to do about personal attitude and how you were raised. If you were raised with respect, you would play the game and finish, win or lose. I see this sort of behavior more and more in people as the culture becomes more and more feminized. If this sort of crap happened in my league, I would without a doubt be finding a new league next year and I would lose all respect for the two people involved.
:lmao:
Mozeta's post is awesome and should be relayed to these 2 clowns.

 
So you're saying the guy who gives up part of his winnings benefits by agreeing to split the pot?
At the point in which the deal was struck the winner was unknown. It's a simple risk-adverse decision. It's not collusion. By your logic hedging a parlay bet at the last game is collusion with the casino because you're guaranteed to give up part of your money if you win.

 

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